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just_Tomek wrote: »Easter is next week. I already did get my parents upset telling them I will not be coming over for breakfast / dinner.
Anyone else? How many do you think are going to stay home and not visit family / friends???
Definitely staying home, sad about it but we have to do this.4 -
just_Tomek wrote: »Easter is next week. I already did get my parents upset telling them I will not be coming over for breakfast / dinner.
Anyone else? How many do you think are going to stay home and not visit family / friends???
I'm Greek, so Easter is a BIG deal. My parents always make a huge lamb roast, potatoes, and green beans all in a tomato-cinnamon sauce that's been simmering all day with the lamb scraps. Plus, spanakopita, dolmathakis, the whole works.
I have to talk to them....my Mom is making noise about still cooking this dinner even though no one can come over and dropping care packages off on our doorsteps. I have to convince her that we just need to have Easter in July this year.
I'm sure she'll still drop off an Easter basket filled with chocolate eggs and other candies. She does this for all of her kids despite us all being 40+ years old. Not that we complain!!11 -
My daughter visited every week until 2/29/20. She’s afraid of bringing it home or exposing us unnecessarily We’re both in our late 60’s. I miss her. No Easter with my sisters and their families either.8
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just_Tomek wrote: »Easter is next week. I already did get my parents upset telling them I will not be coming over for breakfast / dinner.
Anyone else? How many do you think are going to stay home and not visit family / friends???
Easter is on April 19 for us. How we handle it depends on how things turn out by then. Most likely we're going to celebrate it alone, but who knows, things may get better by then.2 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »JustSomeEm wrote: »bmeadows380 wrote: »
WV is supposed to be doing it by packets, but I'm not sure it's going well. Parents are complaining about having to educate their children. Such as this one woman my brother overheard complaining about it, saying "that's what I send them to school for". *sigh* Supposedly, graduation and prom has been postponed to July. Personally, I kind of hope they decide to start the school year early this year, so the kids can catch up - instead of mid August, restart in mid-July or even right after the 4th. I doubt it, though.
As a teacher, I also believe that formal education should happen at school and/or with teachers unless one chooses to homeschool. But not everyone is able or willing to homeschool (obviously) for many, many reasons.
I'm wondering how many parents today were taught math like it is taught now. For example,
? = 56 + 37
=[50 + 6] + 37
=[50 + 6] + [30 + 7]
= 50 + [6 +30] + 7
= 50 + [30 + 6] + 7
= [50 + 30] + [6 + 7]
= 80 + 13
= 80+ [10 + 3]
= [80 + 10] + 3
= 90 + 3
= 93
I recall that the way I learned some content was very different than the way my parents learned it, and the way my kids learn it is different than the way I learned it.
It's fine if you are helping your kid with homework all along and you are seeing how they are being taught. But what happens if your child has done just fine on their own and didn't need help, and suddenly in 4th grade is struggling? There you are, trying to teach them to write
56
+37
______
And you're telling them to "carry the 1."
I would not have known about common core math at lower grades except I work with students who sometimes are at those grade levels. I had to learn quickly how to teach it the way they were already being taught. And geometry doesn't involve proofs anymore; who knew?
Maybe I'm a lot older and many of you have been taught this way--I don't know. I just know that what is taught and how it is taught changes, and a lot of folks might struggle to figure out what the heck their child is trying to do when it is obvious to the parent how to do it their own way.
That's really interesting. That definitely not how I learned to do it in school (1960s); I learned that "carry the one" thing.
But the stepwise thing is much closer to how I do arithmetic in my head, and have as a practical matter for my whole adult life. (I wouldn't do every single one of the steps you show, but I definitely simplify the addends to ones that are easier to add in my head.)
I pretty much can only do the "carry the one" method on paper, not in my head.
Apparently other people's mileage varies.
Me too. I have a friend who is a high school math teacher, and she says that as common core math was rolled out, she could tell a huge difference year to year as students were taught this more intuitive way to do math. I think most adults come to eventually do it the common core way - in spite of the appearance of longer steps, it's a mental short cut.
So, in my head: 56+37? well, 50+30 is 80, and 6+7 is 13... so 80+13 is 93... Boom. Way easier than trying to carry the 1 without a pencil and paper.
I still carry one in my head for any calculations that don't result in multiples of 10. For 58+52, for example, I add 8 and 2 (10) then add 50 and 50 (100) then add 10 (110). For everything else, I carry 1. My imagination of numbers is kind of visual. I "write" the equations in my head as I would on paper and "see" it.
I add like a bowling scorekeeper does when I add in my head. For example: 49+47. I add 50 to 47, then subtract 1 to make 96. Longer strings of numbers get added the same way. I add the first two, then add the next to that number, then the next. If I have a written list but no pencil I will do it similar to you.1 -
BTW, don't know if anyone else saw this but they government just did an about face on the KN95 masks (China's equivalent to the N95 -- some say with more leakage, but 3M has said in a disaster that they are adequate). The FDA just allowed us to use them and buy them in the US. That will help hospitals a lot with supplies that they desperately need. Personally, I feel it was all political not allowing the KN95s to be used. They are in ample supply where the N95s aren't. Hospitals all over are threatening docs and nurses that they will be fired if they complain about lack of PPE, which isn't just sad, it's evil. Those people risking their lives for us are having their jobs threatened if they don't go in and put their own lives at risk. That is so shameful that the US will never outlive that shame, IMHO.10
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »The mayor of NYC now recommends covering your nose and mouth if you have to go outside.
I read this and had to "snort" (in my mask).5 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »The mayor of NYC now recommends covering your nose and mouth if you have to go outside.
As has the mayor of Los Angeles
https://patch.com/california/hollywood/all-angelenos-should-wear-masks-says-mayor-garcetti
Two "snorts". These geniuses have finally figured out the obvious.4 -
just_Tomek wrote: »Easter is next week. I already did get my parents upset telling them I will not be coming over for breakfast / dinner.
Anyone else? How many do you think are going to stay home and not visit family / friends???
Our lockdown will purposely not be lifted until right after Easter, otherwise a mass of Italians would be on the move to return to their ancestorial small towns for the holidays, go to summer homes to open up and take long walks, or go to restaurants with family. This would spread any infection far and wide again, and the Italians would not resist the temptation. May 1st is also a huge workers holiday here and the government is busy putting the brakes on that one too.8 -
So much doublespeak or doubletalk. Now they're telling everyone that wearing a mask protects others from 'you' but that road runs both directions. I knew on day one that masks and gloves offer protection but there's not enough to go around. I've been improvising since the dawn came to light as I've been taking care of others for years.
@MikePfirrman Do you know if pneumonia and shingle shots offer any protection vs. having none.2 -
Diatonic12 wrote: »So much doublespeak or doubletalk. Now they're telling everyone that wearing a mask protects others from 'you' but that road runs both directions. I knew on day one that masks and gloves offer protection but there's not enough to go around. I've been improvising since the dawn came to light as I've been taking care of others for years.
@MikePfirrman Do you know if pneumonia and shingle shots offer any protection vs. having none.
I'm not a scientist or a doc but I don't think that either do. I think both are a good idea, but I haven't gotten either of them. I'm a strong proponent of AHCC, a mushroom derivative supplement. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that both Shingles and Pneumococcal stem from the HPV virus, the same one that causes certain cervical cancers. AHCC is a supplement that has been clinically proven both to boost the immune system and also eradicate HPV viruses over time. I'm certainly not antivax by any wild stretch of the imagination, but I prefer AHCC, which is also fantastic in general right now. If I were a healthcare worker, I'd be taking AHCC daily. Essentially, it helps your NK and T Cells work much more efficiently and actively.2 -
@MikePfirrman Thanks much. I just talked with a neighbor. He's only 37 with COPD due to working in building construction all of his life. He's been waiting a year for a lung specialist in Denver but they cancelled his appointment. The specialist is concerned for his life treating covid patients. All of our misplaced hero worship has come down. First responders and medical personnel, health care providers go to the top of the heap. They're the true heroes and where would we be without them.
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Someone in the region was ticketed yesterday ($225) for breaking the Stay at Home order. She was just driving around, supposedly, and was stopped by a cop. If she had been smarter, she would have said she was going out for a hike, but she told him she was bored and just driving to get out of the house. I wonder if that will become common or if she just was used to set an example?
Our store shelves are still remarkably empty, at least in the afternoon. No frozen vegetables, no TP or hand sanitizer, etc. They did still have their sale items on sale as usual.2 -
My mom floated that idea that if it was nice weather on Easter they could divide the deck into 6 ft square sections and we could all have an early dinner together. I put the kibosh on that. They need to tell the boys that the Easter bunny is social distancing and will pick a day in the summer when this has (hopefully) passed.
My understanding is there are 3 separate areas of research going on, and all 3 could possibly be used to chip away at covid-19, and in what I've gotten the impression is the order when they would realistically be available:- An antibodies test, to determine who has had it and is (hopefully) immune going forward.
- An antiviral (like Tamiflu for the flu) that could be administered to limit the duration and severity of the illness.
- A vaccine to prevent.
I thought this was an interesting article on the face mask confusion
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2020/04/01/should-everyone-wear-a-mask-in-public-maybe-but-its-complicated/?fbclid=IwAR0ZwcAFs3WS_0e0cnLO-OczcxRX_W33CSgjcr0tfNH5tEFrp1815Pm4i9k#79711025a02f
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bmeadows380 wrote: »@MikePfirrman I just read an article on the AP about how this is devastating the US auto market, and that the Q2 projections are going to be worse than back when they filed for bankruptcy. And I know that's just the tip of the iceberg. I work in the electrical power industry, and its affecting us too. While residential load has picked up, industrial load has dropped off significantly, which is a large part of revenues for the companies. How far can we realistically take the shutdown? My best friend is right in that the shutdown is harming people as well, so where's the balance point between loss of life due to the virus and loss of life due to economic devastation?
I'm very glad I'm not in a position to have to be making that sort of decision!
The last I heard, there was fear that a person who had been infected with COVI-19 could catch it again, though it would be milder the next time around. I think they suspected this might have happened in China, though the last I heard, they weren't sure if it was truly a re-infection or a case of the man not being completely over it before being discharged. But if its true that you can catch it again but not be as symptomatic as before, wouldn't that actually heightened the problem - I've already seen that a number of people are spreading the virus without showing symptoms as it is now.
I don't think the reality has set in for people yet that this disruption of normal life and new way of living is going to be long term in the course of months. I think most people are still thinking this is only going to last a few weeks and that everything will be back to normal by mid-May. It's rather mind-boggling to think of it lasting into September, October, Christmas.
I work in accounting for a manufacturer in the automotive industry. While I won't go into specifics, obviously, I will say what everyone sees as obvious: This economic situation will be bad for our industry in particular. When you are uncertain about the economic future, do you buy a new car? Of course not... and super low interest rates don't change that.
ETA: The more immediate concern is to prevent deaths today from Covid-19, and then tomorrow from homelessness, starvation, lack of medical care, etc. caused by economic losses. This is a situation that is going to require far more than $1,200 USD per adult.8 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »Someone in the region was ticketed yesterday ($225) for breaking the Stay at Home order. She was just driving around, supposedly, and was stopped by a cop. If she had been smarter, she would have said she was going out for a hike, but she told him she was bored and just driving to get out of the house. I wonder if that will become common or if she just was used to set an example?
Really?!! I would think that a Sunday drive just to cruise around a little, if you don't leave your car at all, should be safer than going on a walk where you share the sidewalk or trail with other people.
For that matter, she should have just said she was going after groceries or something.T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I work in accounting for a manufacturer in the automotive industry. While I won't go into specifics, obviously, I will say what everyone sees as obvious: This economic situation will be bad for our industry in particular. When you are uncertain about the economic future, do you buy a new car? Of course not... and super low interest rates don't change that.
Especially if you or your partner have been laid off. And it trickles down from there - the dealers themselves and the salesmen lose commissions, factories get scaled way back, and so on.T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »ETA: The more immediate concern is to prevent deaths today from Covid-19, and then tomorrow from homelessness, starvation, lack of medical care, etc. caused by economic losses. This is a situation that is going to require far more than $1,200 USD per adult.
That's my best friend's concern. The repercussions are going to be felt for years on this. The difference between me and my friend is that I think it is completely unavoidable, and since there's going to be severe economic consequences either way you go, pick a path that results in the most lives saved as you can.6 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »Someone in the region was ticketed yesterday ($225) for breaking the Stay at Home order. She was just driving around, supposedly, and was stopped by a cop. If she had been smarter, she would have said she was going out for a hike, but she told him she was bored and just driving to get out of the house. I wonder if that will become common or if she just was used to set an example?
Really?!! I would think that a Sunday drive just to cruise around a little, if you don't leave your car at all, should be safer than going on a walk where you share the sidewalk or trail with other people.
For that matter, she should have just said she was going after groceries or something.
Using cars is not allowed here. Here's the reason: when you restrict how far people can travel you restrict how far infection can travel. Identifying hot spots helps with tracking down the source and concentrating the testing where it's most needed.6 -
It may not be just a question of being able to afford food. I keep my diet pretty restrictive to help manage BG. It has been more and more difficult to find the food that I eat. I had been switching to just beef because I had the most success with that. Last time I went shopping, there was no beef, so I got some eggs, turkey, and cheese. Next time, there may be no animal products at all.
A couple months ago, I transitioned my cat from canned to dry food. It worked faster than planned and I still have some canned food yet. I had been putting out a can for him every once in awhile, but have decided to stop doing that and will keep the canned food in case I run out completely. It is turkey and very low carb because no gravy. I had switched to this food back when I had a diabetic cat, but he died in Oct. 2018 and I just recently decided to switch my remaining cat back to dry for cost and convenience reasons.3 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »It may not be just a question of being able to afford food. I keep my diet pretty restrictive to help manage BG. It has been more and more difficult to find the food that I eat. I had been switching to just beef because I had the most success with that. Last time I went shopping, there was no beef, so I got some eggs, turkey, and cheese. Next time, there may be no animal products at all.
A couple months ago, I transitioned my cat from canned to dry food. It worked faster than planned and I still have some canned food yet. I had been putting out a can for him every once in awhile, but have decided to stop doing that and will keep the canned food in case I run out completely. It is turkey and very low carb because no gravy. I had switched to this food back when I had a diabetic cat, but he died in Oct. 2018 and I just recently decided to switch my remaining cat back to dry for cost and convenience reasons.
Wait... you're gonna stock cat food to eat yourself? :noway:3 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »It may not be just a question of being able to afford food. I keep my diet pretty restrictive to help manage BG. It has been more and more difficult to find the food that I eat. I had been switching to just beef because I had the most success with that. Last time I went shopping, there was no beef, so I got some eggs, turkey, and cheese. Next time, there may be no animal products at all.
A couple months ago, I transitioned my cat from canned to dry food. It worked faster than planned and I still have some canned food yet. I had been putting out a can for him every once in awhile, but have decided to stop doing that and will keep the canned food in case I run out completely. It is turkey and very low carb because no gravy. I had switched to this food back when I had a diabetic cat, but he died in Oct. 2018 and I just recently decided to switch my remaining cat back to dry for cost and convenience reasons.
Where do you live that you can't find meat?1
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