Coronavirus prep
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Yes the lag time on this thing is deadly. It’s why I insisted on starting remote work and other precautions a week ago after just the first case in TX. I already knew it was here but couldn’t justify to management yet2
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Let's see how soon this test can be mass produced and sent out in high enough numbers
https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/20-20-bioresponse-to-launch-rapid-coronavirus-test-kits-in-u-s-following-green-light-from-fda/2 -
NYC is in a crisis... things are so bad here.31
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It’s so darn sad.
I feel like I’m always on the edge of crying the past few days. So hard not to worry, and I’m very easy going.
Now they’re selling out guns and ammo at stores that sell them and are still open.11 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Have been offline for a few days and didn't go back to read all the comments, so apologize if this has already been brought up. Has anyone seen this story:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fourth-member-jersey-family-dies-000305798.html
Combined with what is happening in Italy, couldn't help but wonder if people of Italian descent are somehow more genetically vulnerable to this virus. Is that possible?
Well--a lot of Chinese died too.
Italy has a higher percentage of people over 80, which is one reason suggested for their high rate of fatalities.
We have lot of smokers and the Chinese do too.5 -
missysippy930 wrote: »It’s so darn sad.
I feel like I’m always on the edge of crying the past few days. So hard not to worry, and I’m very easy going.
Now they’re selling out guns and ammo at stores that sell them and are still open.
I'm the same. I'm constantly anxious and every time I start thinking or talking about people in nursing homes I start tearing up.5 -
My sister went to the grocery store early in the morning not knowing it was only for seniors. There she saw seniors wearing little homemade masks they'd sewn together. They went there with hope in their hearts only to find bare shelves.
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I went to YouTube, to just watch my normal stuff but along the side was drone footage, of empty cities worldwide & it makes me wonder when this' over, how empty they'll still be because of the death toll, via this.2
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snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Have been offline for a few days and didn't go back to read all the comments, so apologize if this has already been brought up. Has anyone seen this story:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fourth-member-jersey-family-dies-000305798.html
Combined with what is happening in Italy, couldn't help but wonder if people of Italian descent are somehow more genetically vulnerable to this virus. Is that possible?
Well--a lot of Chinese died too.
Italy has a higher percentage of people over 80, which is one reason suggested for their high rate of fatalities.
We have lot of smokers and the Chinese do too.
Yeah, I can't remember the exact numbers but I remember seeing a partial breakdown of Chinese deaths and it seemed pretty clear that smoking may be a significant factor.2 -
moonangel12 wrote: »
Correct, hence the bolded and asterisked disclaimer saying that I could not confirm it. I hesitated posting for that reason, but it’s not a far stretch of the imagination as people get desperate. So even if it were not 100% true at this moment, it’s something people need to consider (and prep for, in the spirit of the thread title) as people around them might feel they have no other options, or just don’t care.lynn_glenmont wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »Someone mentioned looting, and now I can’t find the post to quote it...
*now, this is through word of mouth, I can’t confirm it* but wanted to mention so people could be aware because it will likely be a reality soon if it isn’t right now...
My aunt in Ohio said they have already had home invasions in her area for food and basic supplies - people kicking in doors at ridiculous hours in the night holding homeowners at gunpoint. (They don’t live in the best area, but also not the worst). Something that had crossed my mind (thanks to a book series I read a couple years ago), but hadn’t really thought would be a reality for our situation just yet.
As this continues, be mindful of locking doors and taking precautions. Start talking about self/family defense now. Get a game plan with any children that might be in the home. We aren’t panicking, but we are aware of what could be as things progress.
Just want to point out that this seems like the sort of thing that would end up in the news if it were happening, but a Google search (Ohio home invasions for food) did not turn up any news stories that matched the reported facts.
No, it's not "not 100% true", it's just "not true". There's a difference. The truth of this virus and lack of testing and the lack of medical supplies is frightening enough without needless fear mongering. If one cannot find any confirmation of what, if it is true, can be easily confirmed, that's a super strong indication that it's made up information. It's a disservice to be spreading this kind of stuff. Hesitate longer next time.19 -
ShinyFuture wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »
Correct, hence the bolded and asterisked disclaimer saying that I could not confirm it. I hesitated posting for that reason, but it’s not a far stretch of the imagination as people get desperate. So even if it were not 100% true at this moment, it’s something people need to consider (and prep for, in the spirit of the thread title) as people around them might feel they have no other options, or just don’t care.lynn_glenmont wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »Someone mentioned looting, and now I can’t find the post to quote it...
*now, this is through word of mouth, I can’t confirm it* but wanted to mention so people could be aware because it will likely be a reality soon if it isn’t right now...
My aunt in Ohio said they have already had home invasions in her area for food and basic supplies - people kicking in doors at ridiculous hours in the night holding homeowners at gunpoint. (They don’t live in the best area, but also not the worst). Something that had crossed my mind (thanks to a book series I read a couple years ago), but hadn’t really thought would be a reality for our situation just yet.
As this continues, be mindful of locking doors and taking precautions. Start talking about self/family defense now. Get a game plan with any children that might be in the home. We aren’t panicking, but we are aware of what could be as things progress.
Just want to point out that this seems like the sort of thing that would end up in the news if it were happening, but a Google search (Ohio home invasions for food) did not turn up any news stories that matched the reported facts.
No, it's not "not 100% true", it's just "not true". There's a difference. The truth of this virus and lack of testing and the lack of medical supplies is frightening enough without needless fear mongering. If one cannot find any confirmation of what, if it is true, can be easily confirmed, that's a super strong indication that it's made up information. It's a disservice to be spreading this kind of stuff. Hesitate longer next time.
Yes, events happened or they didn't. You can't recount an event that didn't happen and then say "Well, it's not 100% true at this moment."
This is a situation that won't be made better by people assuming their door is about to be kicked in and their food stolen. We already have increased gun sales in some areas, we really don't need a bunch of new gun owners shooting into their backyards and out their front doors whenever they hear a noise.12 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Have been offline for a few days and didn't go back to read all the comments, so apologize if this has already been brought up. Has anyone seen this story:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fourth-member-jersey-family-dies-000305798.html
Combined with what is happening in Italy, couldn't help but wonder if people of Italian descent are somehow more genetically vulnerable to this virus. Is that possible?
Well--a lot of Chinese died too.
Yes, I realize that. And I'm no scientist- that's why I asked (and more like I was wondering out loud). But the fact the death rate is so high in Italy at the moment compared to other countries, and the curious fact that none of the family members in the article I quoted were said to have had underlying conditions (the mother & 3 adult children), is what prompted the question.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-rate-by-country-current-fatalities-compared-to-cases-2020-31 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Have been offline for a few days and didn't go back to read all the comments, so apologize if this has already been brought up. Has anyone seen this story:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fourth-member-jersey-family-dies-000305798.html
Combined with what is happening in Italy, couldn't help but wonder if people of Italian descent are somehow more genetically vulnerable to this virus. Is that possible?
Well--a lot of Chinese died too.
Yes, I realize that. And I'm no scientist- that's why I asked (and more like I was wondering out loud). But the fact the death rate is so high in Italy at the moment compared to other countries, and the curious fact that none of the family members in the article I quoted were said to have had underlying conditions (the mother & 3 adult children), is what prompted the question.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-rate-by-country-current-fatalities-compared-to-cases-2020-3
A cousin said she didn't "believe" they had conditions, which may be accurate or inaccurate. The mother was over 65, a risk factor in itself. And her three children who have died were all in their 50s. That isn't a risk factor in and of itself, but we know that so far the death and complication rate is higher in people in their 50s than for younger people.5 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »NYC is in a crisis... things are so bad here.
What's happening in NYC?? What's it like? Can't imagine.0 -
London has not gone into lockdown yet, but cafes, restaurants, gyms, bars, theatres were told not to re-open after tonight.
Potatoes are starting to get scarce in my bit of central London. Hubby managed to find some at the Bangladeshi supermarket. At least the ethnic grocers are still well stocked.4 -
There's an ice cream truck, within my apartment complex now.4
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DecadeDuchess wrote: »I went to YouTube, to just watch my normal stuff but along the side was drone footage, of empty cities worldwide & it makes me wonder when this' over, how empty they'll still be because of the death toll, via this.
And not just the death of people. So many small businesses aren't going to make it through this, even with stimulus/bailout money. As someone who generally shops and eats at local places, I wonder what it's going to be like without those places once this starts to turn around.
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Florida's governor just closed down all restaurants (only To-Go and Delivery allowed), all gyms, and any place with a license to sell alcohol can only sell packages drinks to-to.
Beaches are closing - if they weren't already.
They say our total number is 520 right now.... but testing hasn't ramped up yet.6 -
I was at an Aldi in Texas this morning (the day after the governor rolled out new, tighter restrictions). It opened at 9 officially, but was open to seniors at 8:30. I walked in at 9:10. It was packed. They had 2 item limits on the scarce items. I didn't get more than 2 of anything; well aware that everyone needs food. I am, however, feeding 2 teenage boys home from school until who knows when...Diatonic12 wrote: »My sister went to the grocery store early in the morning not knowing it was only for seniors. There she saw seniors wearing little homemade masks they'd sewn together. They went there with hope in their hearts only to find bare shelves.
But the best part, the best thing I've seen in days, was when a man who appeared to be in his 90s, carrying a small tote bag instead of pushing a basket, asked where the Graham crackers were in the midst of all the chaos. 3 people immediately offered to help, and he had his box of crackers tucked in his tote in seconds without taking a step, with multiple offers of help with whatever else he needed. He blessed them all as angels, and I thought I was going cry right there in the middle of Aldi.
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snowflake954 wrote: »Have been offline for a few days and didn't go back to read all the comments, so apologize if this has already been brought up. Has anyone seen this story:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fourth-member-jersey-family-dies-000305798.html
Combined with what is happening in Italy, couldn't help but wonder if people of Italian descent are somehow more genetically vulnerable to this virus. Is that possible?
Well--a lot of Chinese died too.
Yes, I realize that. And I'm no scientist- that's why I asked (and more like I was wondering out loud). But the fact the death rate is so high in Italy at the moment compared to other countries, and the curious fact that none of the family members in the article I quoted were said to have had underlying conditions (the mother & 3 adult children), is what prompted the question.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-rate-by-country-current-fatalities-compared-to-cases-2020-3
While it’s not outside the realm of possibility that there are genetic factors which partly determine who gets a more serious case (for example there’s some evidence that type A blood tends towards worse outcomes), based on haplogroups the populations of Northern Italy and Germany are similar, and Germany has an unusually low death rate compared to other countries. In fact, Lombardy, where the Coronavirus is worst, has the highest percentage within Italy of Haplogroup R1b which is shared with most of Central Europe.6
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