Coronavirus prep
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snowflake954 wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »
Dang, in Italy you can just buy masks at a pharmacy? And where are you finding them online?snowflake954 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Back on topic... The US federal government now recommends face coverings when going outside. Quite the change.
Worries me a little bit. I'm still seeing way too many people just going about things as if they are on summer vacation...especially things like going to Walmart or Target just to get out of the house and browse. I'm hoping that this mask thing doesn't give more people a sense that it is ok to just be out an about because they have a mask on. I've already had a few people from work comment to me that if we have masks, we should just go back to work.
I guess it's different elsewhere. Here, people are wearing masks and still observing social distance. Some folks have to learn things the hard way sadly.
ETA- They specifically say that the masks are not meant to be a replacement for social distancing. Just in addition to. If people ignore that, it has nothing to do with masks. 🤷🏼♀️
It's only been a thing here for a few weeks and there were a lot of people that thought the governors response was over the top when we only had 3 cases...I thought it was very good and proactive but we've quickly gotten close to 600 now. Still, we are a very rural state and there are just a whole lot of people who think this is "city folk problems".
I'm interested to see how things play out in the rest of the country. I wonder how many states are going to take what happened here in NYC and learn and how many are just going to write it off as a "NY or city problem".
I mean just recently, the governor of GA didn't know that the virus could be spread by asymptomatic people.
Sadly, until it hits them like a hammer, some people just won't take action. The US saw what happened in China and Italy, but it seemed far away. This thing moves fast and silently.
Here, there is now talk that masks will be required--no surprise for me. My husband went to the pharmacy to buy some this morning. You had to buy a box of 50 for $50, after waiting in line half an hour. He said "I'll think about it". We found a box of 50 online for $17. We ordered them. A customer cannot enter in a pharmacy. They take your order at the door, bring it to you, you pay, and they bring your receipt. All the lines to buy anything here are OK as long as the weather is nice, when it starts raining it's going to be miserable.
I have ten masks which I bought in February because it was flu season and my doc made me go in for bloodwork. And they were impossible to find even then, because of the flu season - my pharmacist found some tucked behind some other stuff behind the counter. They are not available to buy locally now for any amount of money. Not that we are supposed to buy them even if they were. Only homemade masks, surgical and n95 reserved for health care professionals.
My son went on Amazon here in Italy yesterday. There was a large choice of masks. Ours are to arrive in 3 days.
The ones I looked at said they’re in stock but arrival April 24 to May 15. My husband is still working, essential employee. I’m going to try making some out of bandannas he’s never opened. 🤞🏻5 -
missysippy930 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »
Dang, in Italy you can just buy masks at a pharmacy? And where are you finding them online?snowflake954 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Back on topic... The US federal government now recommends face coverings when going outside. Quite the change.
Worries me a little bit. I'm still seeing way too many people just going about things as if they are on summer vacation...especially things like going to Walmart or Target just to get out of the house and browse. I'm hoping that this mask thing doesn't give more people a sense that it is ok to just be out an about because they have a mask on. I've already had a few people from work comment to me that if we have masks, we should just go back to work.
I guess it's different elsewhere. Here, people are wearing masks and still observing social distance. Some folks have to learn things the hard way sadly.
ETA- They specifically say that the masks are not meant to be a replacement for social distancing. Just in addition to. If people ignore that, it has nothing to do with masks. 🤷🏼♀️
It's only been a thing here for a few weeks and there were a lot of people that thought the governors response was over the top when we only had 3 cases...I thought it was very good and proactive but we've quickly gotten close to 600 now. Still, we are a very rural state and there are just a whole lot of people who think this is "city folk problems".
I'm interested to see how things play out in the rest of the country. I wonder how many states are going to take what happened here in NYC and learn and how many are just going to write it off as a "NY or city problem".
I mean just recently, the governor of GA didn't know that the virus could be spread by asymptomatic people.
Sadly, until it hits them like a hammer, some people just won't take action. The US saw what happened in China and Italy, but it seemed far away. This thing moves fast and silently.
Here, there is now talk that masks will be required--no surprise for me. My husband went to the pharmacy to buy some this morning. You had to buy a box of 50 for $50, after waiting in line half an hour. He said "I'll think about it". We found a box of 50 online for $17. We ordered them. A customer cannot enter in a pharmacy. They take your order at the door, bring it to you, you pay, and they bring your receipt. All the lines to buy anything here are OK as long as the weather is nice, when it starts raining it's going to be miserable.
I have ten masks which I bought in February because it was flu season and my doc made me go in for bloodwork. And they were impossible to find even then, because of the flu season - my pharmacist found some tucked behind some other stuff behind the counter. They are not available to buy locally now for any amount of money. Not that we are supposed to buy them even if they were. Only homemade masks, surgical and n95 reserved for health care professionals.
My son went on Amazon here in Italy yesterday. There was a large choice of masks. Ours are to arrive in 3 days.
The ones I looked at said they’re in stock but arrival April 24 to May 15. My husband is still working, essential employee. I’m going to try making some out of bandannas he’s never opened. 🤞🏻
I'd still order some anyway. You're going to need them if it becomes obligatory to wear them after lockdown. That's what they're saying here. Northern Italy will make masks obligatory in a couple of days, as soon as they can get enough in the pharmacies. After a downward trend new cases are up again today. Fewer patients in intensive care.4 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »I was thinking of holding out one more week, when I'll probably be getting low on dairy too, and then go to see what I can find. I'd been thinking about getting ham of some kind for my home-alone Easter, but from some of the posts on here, it sounds like I might be overly optimistic. Maybe I'll find some canned or frozen pineapple and I can open a can of Spam (spiced ham in a can) and see what I can make out of it.
It really depends where you live. Early on here we were low on paper products and pasta or other dried goods in some places, and dairy in others, but never in meat. And for us things are largely back to normal in the stores now (based on my one trip plus reports on NextDoor).
This is the downside of not going to the grocery store until I really have to -- I don't have a good idea of local grocery conditions (they only reported about that on the local news in the early days; now they have so much more to talk about with new cases, deaths, masks or no masks, ventilators, what's happening in hospitals, navy ships, etc.). However, I've always been very flexible about buying what's on sale or what looks good this week, so I expect I'll be reasonably flexible about buying what happens to be available.
I've not been shopping much either, and only at my local meat market and one delivery, but NextDoor reports conditions in various local stores.
Ah. I've never signed up when they've sent me the info in the mail, because I had heard that in many neighborhoods there's a lot of negativity on NextDoor, and that the way NextDoor works, whoever happens to sign up first to run the local neighborhood NextDoor community has total control? We had an IRL neighborhood community association like that about a decade back, and it pretty much soured me on organized groups at the community level, although I enjoyed a few clean-up-the-neighborhood and neighborhood-watch-patrol before it got ugly. I just talk to my neighbors (from a safe distance these days) and go to block parties and stuff like that. Maybe the next time I pass by somebody on a walk I'll yell to them and ask them if they've been shopping lately and what it was like.
Edited to fix typo and add clarifying info
Our Next Door is pretty good. Right now there are a lot of posts from people offering to help or run errands as well as a map of those who have turned their Free Little Library boxes into sharing boxes. Before all of this the only posts that I saw get poofed were ones complaining about things like people turning their Christmas lights on in mid November or other nonsensical things. The only arguments I have seen have been when the subject of pizza restaurants comes up.6 -
snowflake954 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »
Dang, in Italy you can just buy masks at a pharmacy? And where are you finding them online?snowflake954 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Back on topic... The US federal government now recommends face coverings when going outside. Quite the change.
Worries me a little bit. I'm still seeing way too many people just going about things as if they are on summer vacation...especially things like going to Walmart or Target just to get out of the house and browse. I'm hoping that this mask thing doesn't give more people a sense that it is ok to just be out an about because they have a mask on. I've already had a few people from work comment to me that if we have masks, we should just go back to work.
I guess it's different elsewhere. Here, people are wearing masks and still observing social distance. Some folks have to learn things the hard way sadly.
ETA- They specifically say that the masks are not meant to be a replacement for social distancing. Just in addition to. If people ignore that, it has nothing to do with masks. 🤷🏼♀️
It's only been a thing here for a few weeks and there were a lot of people that thought the governors response was over the top when we only had 3 cases...I thought it was very good and proactive but we've quickly gotten close to 600 now. Still, we are a very rural state and there are just a whole lot of people who think this is "city folk problems".
I'm interested to see how things play out in the rest of the country. I wonder how many states are going to take what happened here in NYC and learn and how many are just going to write it off as a "NY or city problem".
I mean just recently, the governor of GA didn't know that the virus could be spread by asymptomatic people.
Sadly, until it hits them like a hammer, some people just won't take action. The US saw what happened in China and Italy, but it seemed far away. This thing moves fast and silently.
Here, there is now talk that masks will be required--no surprise for me. My husband went to the pharmacy to buy some this morning. You had to buy a box of 50 for $50, after waiting in line half an hour. He said "I'll think about it". We found a box of 50 online for $17. We ordered them. A customer cannot enter in a pharmacy. They take your order at the door, bring it to you, you pay, and they bring your receipt. All the lines to buy anything here are OK as long as the weather is nice, when it starts raining it's going to be miserable.
I have ten masks which I bought in February because it was flu season and my doc made me go in for bloodwork. And they were impossible to find even then, because of the flu season - my pharmacist found some tucked behind some other stuff behind the counter. They are not available to buy locally now for any amount of money. Not that we are supposed to buy them even if they were. Only homemade masks, surgical and n95 reserved for health care professionals.
My son went on Amazon here in Italy yesterday. There was a large choice of masks. Ours are to arrive in 3 days.
The ones I looked at said they’re in stock but arrival April 24 to May 15. My husband is still working, essential employee. I’m going to try making some out of bandannas he’s never opened. 🤞🏻
I'd still order some anyway. You're going to need them if it becomes obligatory to wear them after lockdown. That's what they're saying here. Northern Italy will make masks obligatory in a couple of days, as soon as they can get enough in the pharmacies. After a downward trend new cases are up again today. Fewer patients in intensive care.
I did order them, hoping they’d be shipped sooner. I’m just going to the grocery store, but husband’s going to work so he needs them more. They are highly recommending them now in the US. They have plexiglass shields up in the grocery store now, protecting cashiers and customers a bit more. I told the cashier, on Thursday, they should be suppling their workers with face masks. I think all businesses that require essential employees should provide protective gear. There’s just not enough to go around and people in contact with the actual cases should be, and are, priority. Not even enough for them. Very sad. A lot of deaths yesterday, especially in NYC.3 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »I was thinking of holding out one more week, when I'll probably be getting low on dairy too, and then go to see what I can find. I'd been thinking about getting ham of some kind for my home-alone Easter, but from some of the posts on here, it sounds like I might be overly optimistic. Maybe I'll find some canned or frozen pineapple and I can open a can of Spam (spiced ham in a can) and see what I can make out of it.
It really depends where you live. Early on here we were low on paper products and pasta or other dried goods in some places, and dairy in others, but never in meat. And for us things are largely back to normal in the stores now (based on my one trip plus reports on NextDoor).
This is the downside of not going to the grocery store until I really have to -- I don't have a good idea of local grocery conditions (they only reported about that on the local news in the early days; now they have so much more to talk about with new cases, deaths, masks or no masks, ventilators, what's happening in hospitals, navy ships, etc.). However, I've always been very flexible about buying what's on sale or what looks good this week, so I expect I'll be reasonably flexible about buying what happens to be available.
I've not been shopping much either, and only at my local meat market and one delivery, but NextDoor reports conditions in various local stores.
Ah. I've never signed up when they've sent me the info in the mail, because I had heard that in many neighborhoods there's a lot of negativity on NextDoor, and that the way NextDoor works, whoever happens to sign up first to run the local neighborhood NextDoor community has total control? We had an IRL neighborhood community association like that about a decade back, and it pretty much soured me on organized groups at the community level, although I enjoyed a few clean-up-the-neighborhood and neighborhood-watch-patrol before it got ugly. I just talk to my neighbors (from a safe distance these days) and go to block parties and stuff like that. Maybe the next time I pass by somebody on a walk I'll yell to them and ask them if they've been shopping lately and what it was like.
Edited to fix typo and add clarifying info
There's more good than bad there in terms of information, at least in my neighborhood and surrounding, based on my experience, but there's a lot of ridiculous judgy-ness and squabbling too (mostly pet-related in normal times, but lately about some things like how to properly socially distance when outside).
I'm not aware of whoever signing up first having total control -- ND has staff that get to make final decisions and who are the only ones who can ban posters. Neighborhood leads do have the ability to vote to close discussions (I only know this because I just looked it up), but there are various ways to become one if you want to be (I do not), and I haven't found the moderating to seem unfair.
Anyway, I'm not recommending it because I'm sure it varies neighborhood to neighborhood and I hate read it a lot of times just to be annoyed at how ridiculous people can be, but it can be very useful, can be positive, and during coronavirus I've found it helpful (it also facilitates neighbors offering help to other neighbors).
Of course, we also have an active community association (as well as block parties), and I like it more than NextDoor (have't noticed the pettier stuff there), and I volunteer with my alderman's office at times, so I'm pretty into my community-level stuff.
Talking to people from across the street if you see them when you are out (I had a brief conversation from that distance with my nextdoor neighbor who was walking her dog and say hi to my neighbors on the other side when they are out in the yard and I'm gardening or taking out the trash) works too, of course! ;-)5 -
NYS:
74% Hospitalized have been discharged.
122,031 Confirmed Cases
4,159 Deaths
NYC:
67,551 Confirmed Cases
There is finally a decline on deaths in the state. Hopefully good news.
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My husband helped me make over 100 reusable masks this weekend for his people at work... they bought a case of them right at the beginning of all of this, but there aren’t many left. Putting in a disclaimer sheet that it’s not PPE, but if worn with a filter in the middle it would provide more protection than nothing.missysippy930 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »
Dang, in Italy you can just buy masks at a pharmacy? And where are you finding them online?snowflake954 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Back on topic... The US federal government now recommends face coverings when going outside. Quite the change.
Worries me a little bit. I'm still seeing way too many people just going about things as if they are on summer vacation...especially things like going to Walmart or Target just to get out of the house and browse. I'm hoping that this mask thing doesn't give more people a sense that it is ok to just be out an about because they have a mask on. I've already had a few people from work comment to me that if we have masks, we should just go back to work.
I guess it's different elsewhere. Here, people are wearing masks and still observing social distance. Some folks have to learn things the hard way sadly.
ETA- They specifically say that the masks are not meant to be a replacement for social distancing. Just in addition to. If people ignore that, it has nothing to do with masks. 🤷🏼♀️
It's only been a thing here for a few weeks and there were a lot of people that thought the governors response was over the top when we only had 3 cases...I thought it was very good and proactive but we've quickly gotten close to 600 now. Still, we are a very rural state and there are just a whole lot of people who think this is "city folk problems".
I'm interested to see how things play out in the rest of the country. I wonder how many states are going to take what happened here in NYC and learn and how many are just going to write it off as a "NY or city problem".
I mean just recently, the governor of GA didn't know that the virus could be spread by asymptomatic people.
Sadly, until it hits them like a hammer, some people just won't take action. The US saw what happened in China and Italy, but it seemed far away. This thing moves fast and silently.
Here, there is now talk that masks will be required--no surprise for me. My husband went to the pharmacy to buy some this morning. You had to buy a box of 50 for $50, after waiting in line half an hour. He said "I'll think about it". We found a box of 50 online for $17. We ordered them. A customer cannot enter in a pharmacy. They take your order at the door, bring it to you, you pay, and they bring your receipt. All the lines to buy anything here are OK as long as the weather is nice, when it starts raining it's going to be miserable.
I have ten masks which I bought in February because it was flu season and my doc made me go in for bloodwork. And they were impossible to find even then, because of the flu season - my pharmacist found some tucked behind some other stuff behind the counter. They are not available to buy locally now for any amount of money. Not that we are supposed to buy them even if they were. Only homemade masks, surgical and n95 reserved for health care professionals.
My son went on Amazon here in Italy yesterday. There was a large choice of masks. Ours are to arrive in 3 days.
The ones I looked at said they’re in stock but arrival April 24 to May 15. My husband is still working, essential employee. I’m going to try making some out of bandannas he’s never opened. 🤞🏻
I'd still order some anyway. You're going to need them if it becomes obligatory to wear them after lockdown. That's what they're saying here. Northern Italy will make masks obligatory in a couple of days, as soon as they can get enough in the pharmacies. After a downward trend new cases are up again today. Fewer patients in intensive care.
I did order them, hoping they’d be shipped sooner. I’m just going to the grocery store, but husband’s going to work so he needs them more. They are highly recommending them now in the US. They have plexiglass shields up in the grocery store now, protecting cashiers and customers a bit more. I told the cashier, on Thursday, they should be suppling their workers with face masks. I think all businesses that require essential employees should provide protective gear. There’s just not enough to go around and people in contact with the actual cases should be, and are, priority. Not even enough for them. Very sad. A lot of deaths yesterday, especially in NYC.
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Various links to tutorials on ways to make face masks here: https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-make-coronavirus-face-mask-wear-donate-covid-19-20200404-rtmmpjd3enaqnbtw4myhtph5zu-story.html2
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missysippy930 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »
Dang, in Italy you can just buy masks at a pharmacy? And where are you finding them online?snowflake954 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Back on topic... The US federal government now recommends face coverings when going outside. Quite the change.
Worries me a little bit. I'm still seeing way too many people just going about things as if they are on summer vacation...especially things like going to Walmart or Target just to get out of the house and browse. I'm hoping that this mask thing doesn't give more people a sense that it is ok to just be out an about because they have a mask on. I've already had a few people from work comment to me that if we have masks, we should just go back to work.
I guess it's different elsewhere. Here, people are wearing masks and still observing social distance. Some folks have to learn things the hard way sadly.
ETA- They specifically say that the masks are not meant to be a replacement for social distancing. Just in addition to. If people ignore that, it has nothing to do with masks. 🤷🏼♀️
It's only been a thing here for a few weeks and there were a lot of people that thought the governors response was over the top when we only had 3 cases...I thought it was very good and proactive but we've quickly gotten close to 600 now. Still, we are a very rural state and there are just a whole lot of people who think this is "city folk problems".
I'm interested to see how things play out in the rest of the country. I wonder how many states are going to take what happened here in NYC and learn and how many are just going to write it off as a "NY or city problem".
I mean just recently, the governor of GA didn't know that the virus could be spread by asymptomatic people.
Sadly, until it hits them like a hammer, some people just won't take action. The US saw what happened in China and Italy, but it seemed far away. This thing moves fast and silently.
Here, there is now talk that masks will be required--no surprise for me. My husband went to the pharmacy to buy some this morning. You had to buy a box of 50 for $50, after waiting in line half an hour. He said "I'll think about it". We found a box of 50 online for $17. We ordered them. A customer cannot enter in a pharmacy. They take your order at the door, bring it to you, you pay, and they bring your receipt. All the lines to buy anything here are OK as long as the weather is nice, when it starts raining it's going to be miserable.
I have ten masks which I bought in February because it was flu season and my doc made me go in for bloodwork. And they were impossible to find even then, because of the flu season - my pharmacist found some tucked behind some other stuff behind the counter. They are not available to buy locally now for any amount of money. Not that we are supposed to buy them even if they were. Only homemade masks, surgical and n95 reserved for health care professionals.
My son went on Amazon here in Italy yesterday. There was a large choice of masks. Ours are to arrive in 3 days.
The ones I looked at said they’re in stock but arrival April 24 to May 15. My husband is still working, essential employee. I’m going to try making some out of bandannas he’s never opened. 🤞🏻
I'd still order some anyway. You're going to need them if it becomes obligatory to wear them after lockdown. That's what they're saying here. Northern Italy will make masks obligatory in a couple of days, as soon as they can get enough in the pharmacies. After a downward trend new cases are up again today. Fewer patients in intensive care.
I did order them, hoping they’d be shipped sooner. I’m just going to the grocery store, but husband’s going to work so he needs them more. They are highly recommending them now in the US. They have plexiglass shields up in the grocery store now, protecting cashiers and customers a bit more. I told the cashier, on Thursday, they should be suppling their workers with face masks. I think all businesses that require essential employees should provide protective gear. There’s just not enough to go around and people in contact with the actual cases should be, and are, priority. Not even enough for them. Very sad. A lot of deaths yesterday, especially in NYC.
All cashiers in our grocery stores have had to wear them for 3 weeks now because they are high risk. Last week all customers were required to wear masks also. Masks will become the new TP hoarding when people have to wear them. Our experts are saying that social distancing is not enough in many situations--grocery stores are an example. You need social distancing plus masks. If you want to see something interesting check out the experiments the Japanese are doing on how far the virus can travel, not just when coughing or sneezing, just just conversing with someone with a desk or table between. It's eyeopening and explains why so many people are infected so fast.4 -
I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
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I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
What your cousin had to put up with is not right. However, people are under stress right now and the worst (but sometimes best) comes out at times like these. I hope she can manage to let it go. Being a mother of a baby right now isn't easy.8 -
snowflake954 wrote: »I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
What your cousin had to put up with is not right. However, people are under stress right now and the worst (but sometimes best) comes out at times like these. I hope she can manage to let it go. Being a mother of a baby right now isn't easy.
My cousin is a strong as heck person and we are using her experience to hopefully educate people. But others may not be as strong as she is. They may suffer from depression. They may be having postpartum problems. They may be taking out their other child after having suffered a miscarriage. They may have just lost their husband, wife, child, parent, friend. The thing is, no one knows. Adults should know better then to say those things to another human being. I suffer from multiple mental health issues but even with the stress, anxiety, and depression I am dealing with I would never ever say those sorts of things.
I just makes me so upset because it's not just my cousin. It is other people who are dealing with the judgement too. And it's just not right.9 -
snowflake954 wrote: »I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
What your cousin had to put up with is not right. However, people are under stress right now and the worst (but sometimes best) comes out at times like these. I hope she can manage to let it go. Being a mother of a baby right now isn't easy.
My cousin is a strong as heck person and we are using her experience to hopefully educate people. But others may not be as strong as she is. They may suffer from depression. They may be having postpartum problems. They may be taking out their other child after having suffered a miscarriage. They may have just lost their husband, wife, child, parent, friend. The thing is, no one knows. Adults should know better then to say those things to another human being. I suffer from multiple mental health issues but even with the stress, anxiety, and depression I am dealing with I would never ever say those sorts of things.
I just makes me so upset because it's not just my cousin. It is other people who are dealing with the judgement too. And it's just not right.
Can you have someone write up an article for your local newspaper or send in a letter to the editor yourselves? I'll bet there are lots of other parents in the same circumstances as your cousin. Not every parent has a SO or babysitter or anyone they can automatically leave a child home with so they can shop for food.
So sorry she encountered 3 very rude individuals and during the same shopping trip. 8 -
I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
That's very unfortunate. In general I'm finding people to be more accommodating and nice right now, so that experience really sucks.7 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
That's very unfortunate. In general I'm finding people to be more accommodating and nice right now, so that experience really sucks.
This reflects what I see too, but some people may be having issues with the stress/fear/isolation/grief and be lashing out in a way they wouldn't normally.3 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
That's very unfortunate. In general I'm finding people to be more accommodating and nice right now, so that experience really sucks.
This reflects what I see too, but some people may be having issues with the stress/fear/isolation/grief and be lashing out in a way they wouldn't normally.
Or this is just their normal personality, but more emboldened through fear and panic.
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »I was thinking of holding out one more week, when I'll probably be getting low on dairy too, and then go to see what I can find. I'd been thinking about getting ham of some kind for my home-alone Easter, but from some of the posts on here, it sounds like I might be overly optimistic. Maybe I'll find some canned or frozen pineapple and I can open a can of Spam (spiced ham in a can) and see what I can make out of it.
It really depends where you live. Early on here we were low on paper products and pasta or other dried goods in some places, and dairy in others, but never in meat. And for us things are largely back to normal in the stores now (based on my one trip plus reports on NextDoor).
This is the downside of not going to the grocery store until I really have to -- I don't have a good idea of local grocery conditions (they only reported about that on the local news in the early days; now they have so much more to talk about with new cases, deaths, masks or no masks, ventilators, what's happening in hospitals, navy ships, etc.). However, I've always been very flexible about buying what's on sale or what looks good this week, so I expect I'll be reasonably flexible about buying what happens to be available.
I've not been shopping much either, and only at my local meat market and one delivery, but NextDoor reports conditions in various local stores.
Ah. I've never signed up when they've sent me the info in the mail, because I had heard that in many neighborhoods there's a lot of negativity on NextDoor, and that the way NextDoor works, whoever happens to sign up first to run the local neighborhood NextDoor community has total control? We had an IRL neighborhood community association like that about a decade back, and it pretty much soured me on organized groups at the community level, although I enjoyed a few clean-up-the-neighborhood and neighborhood-watch-patrol before it got ugly. I just talk to my neighbors (from a safe distance these days) and go to block parties and stuff like that. Maybe the next time I pass by somebody on a walk I'll yell to them and ask them if they've been shopping lately and what it was like.
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Our Next Door is pretty good. Right now there are a lot of posts from people offering to help or run errands as well as a map of those who have turned their Free Little Library boxes into sharing boxes. Before all of this the only posts that I saw get poofed were ones complaining about things like people turning their Christmas lights on in mid November or other nonsensical things. The only arguments I have seen have been when the subject of pizza restaurants comes up.
Well, you can't attack people's deeply held religious beliefs. 6 -
Just spoke to someone who lives nearby who has been grocery shopping every week and he said today was the first time he's been able to get milk, eggs, and bread in the same trip. Not TP though. I'm hoping eventually everybody will have so much TP in their homes they'll realize they need the space for other things. Like turning around.6
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »I was thinking of holding out one more week, when I'll probably be getting low on dairy too, and then go to see what I can find. I'd been thinking about getting ham of some kind for my home-alone Easter, but from some of the posts on here, it sounds like I might be overly optimistic. Maybe I'll find some canned or frozen pineapple and I can open a can of Spam (spiced ham in a can) and see what I can make out of it.
It really depends where you live. Early on here we were low on paper products and pasta or other dried goods in some places, and dairy in others, but never in meat. And for us things are largely back to normal in the stores now (based on my one trip plus reports on NextDoor).
This is the downside of not going to the grocery store until I really have to -- I don't have a good idea of local grocery conditions (they only reported about that on the local news in the early days; now they have so much more to talk about with new cases, deaths, masks or no masks, ventilators, what's happening in hospitals, navy ships, etc.). However, I've always been very flexible about buying what's on sale or what looks good this week, so I expect I'll be reasonably flexible about buying what happens to be available.
I've not been shopping much either, and only at my local meat market and one delivery, but NextDoor reports conditions in various local stores.
Ah. I've never signed up when they've sent me the info in the mail, because I had heard that in many neighborhoods there's a lot of negativity on NextDoor, and that the way NextDoor works, whoever happens to sign up first to run the local neighborhood NextDoor community has total control? We had an IRL neighborhood community association like that about a decade back, and it pretty much soured me on organized groups at the community level, although I enjoyed a few clean-up-the-neighborhood and neighborhood-watch-patrol before it got ugly. I just talk to my neighbors (from a safe distance these days) and go to block parties and stuff like that. Maybe the next time I pass by somebody on a walk I'll yell to them and ask them if they've been shopping lately and what it was like.
Edited to fix typo and add clarifying info
There's more good than bad there in terms of information, at least in my neighborhood and surrounding, based on my experience, but there's a lot of ridiculous judgy-ness and squabbling too (mostly pet-related in normal times, but lately about some things like how to properly socially distance when outside).
I'm not aware of whoever signing up first having total control -- ND has staff that get to make final decisions and who are the only ones who can ban posters. Neighborhood leads do have the ability to vote to close discussions (I only know this because I just looked it up), but there are various ways to become one if you want to be (I do not), and I haven't found the moderating to seem unfair.
Anyway, I'm not recommending it because I'm sure it varies neighborhood to neighborhood and I hate read it a lot of times just to be annoyed at how ridiculous people can be, but it can be very useful, can be positive, and during coronavirus I've found it helpful (it also facilitates neighbors offering help to other neighbors).
Of course, we also have an active community association (as well as block parties), and I like it more than NextDoor (have't noticed the pettier stuff there), and I volunteer with my alderman's office at times, so I'm pretty into my community-level stuff.
Talking to people from across the street if you see them when you are out (I had a brief conversation from that distance with my nextdoor neighbor who was walking her dog and say hi to my neighbors on the other side when they are out in the yard and I'm gardening or taking out the trash) works too, of course! ;-)
Thanks. I was basing my impression on an article or two I read several years back, before I ever got an invitation to to join the local one, so obviously things could have changed, either in the culture of the app or the ND rules, or what I read could have been focusing on the bad cases. Thanks for letting me know it's not all bad. Maybe next time they mail out passcodes I'll try signing in.2
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