Coronavirus prep
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Just posting to be part of this thread. Haven't read it all, but I'm sure attitudes have changed a lot in the 6 weeks since the first page.
I live on an island with a relatively small number of cases, but I think I've seen it all. Curfew, lockdown, panic buying, job losses, work from home, school closures, etc.7 -
JustSomeEm wrote: »Quick update from slightly south of DC (in MD). Masks have become almost mandatory in the area. Several surrounding counties have mandated masks when shopping, and I suspect that my county will come on board shortly. Many stores in the area are already mandating a mask when on their premises. I have a few coming via Amazon eventually, but heaven only knows when they'll get here. In the meantime, I've been heading out with my winter running gator... Also, still working from home and seeking TP. I think I may head to Walmart first thing in the morning tomorrow to see if there is any. And working from home is becoming a bit easier. I wonder if they'll let us continue to do so every once in a while after we are told we can head back to the office...
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/maryland-gov-hogan-signs-order-requiring-people-to-wear-masks-at-stores-on-transit
This was just posted recently...3 -
In Los Angeles County, concerts and sporting events may be cancelled through next year
https://patch.com/california/culvercity/s/h30mz/coronavirus-may-cancel-la-sports-concerts-until-2021-report?utm_source=alert-breakingnews&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=alert
Our stay-at-home order is through May 15. I don't know if that will change over the coming days or not.
That's happening everywhere with stay at home orders. Ours was just extended from April 14th until May 3rd instead.0 -
KrissCanDoThis wrote: »The blue hair covering and orange vest really caught my attention, lol
Lol twins
Hahaha.
The orange vest is not medical PPE - they are just cheap tradies Hi Vis vests we got from hardware store.
Since if we are giving vaccines to people on both sides of car we have to walk out into laneway of car park and don't want to get run over
The area is cordoned off - but one of the patients has already driven over the star dropper holding the screen in place.
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Our governor has refused to issue SIP for the one city (two counties) that has become a hot-spot. Instead the city council is going to do so with a new ordinance but that will take another week to be legal.
My son works in a hospital there. I have to actively not think about it so I don't melt into a puddle of worry. He is coming home tomorrow to pick up eggs; how is this real that he can't come into his childhood home without wearing a mask and gloves because I'm high risk?9 -
I realized I was low on TP today, so decided to actually brave my grocery store, which I haven't been to since the stay at home order on 3/20 (actually, since more than a week before, as I peeked in on 3/19 and it was a nightmare of people freaking pre rumored stay at home order). I have gone to a local meat market instead.
I wore the mask I managed to buy on Sunday, but it was kind of frustrating as -- as with the impromptu masks I've made at home -- it made my glasses fog up such that I ended up removing them.
When I got to the store their way of controlling population was "everyone must have a cart (carts were limited), don't have more than one person per party," but although there were plenty of carts available, there were also plenty of couples going in and others without grabbing a cart (they were sanitizing the handle and giving you a sanitary wipe also), so it was IMO too crowded, more so than Home Depot and apparently TJs (which is being limited to 10 customers at a time). WF is very limited too, not sure to what extent. Also, just the set up of the grocery store was not conducive to social distancing.
I grabbed some veg (zucchini, asparagus, and carrots) because I had been forced to have a cart so figured I'd get a few desired items beyond the purpose for me being there and then checked the TP aisle which was somewhat bare but had 6 and 12 roll packages. There was a sign saying no more than 2 packages per customer. I grabbed just one 6 roll, since I really didn't need more (had there been a line I was prepared to go to 7-11, which might have been less stressful). I would have grabbed some cottage cheese but I was frustrated about my inability to see anything without my glasses and the number of people in the store, so I just went to check out, which went fast.
I think at this point I don't need to go back anytime soon, so likely will not. I tried to order TP at Target earlier and it was out, but I signed up to be notified when it is back. All food I can get elsewhere (or go back to my far less stressful meat market that just lacks TP).
For what it's worth they did have a full selection of everything. The only thing they looked low on and were limiting was TP, and I bought that after 6 pm, and there was plenty left.7 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Then there was the Cannonball race that recently happened with the winners averaging 100+ mph between NY and CA. If you factor stopping for necessary supplies (gas) and body functions (probably setup to do some/most liquid "dehydration" while moving, maybe plenty of loperamide for the rest)... so stopping for gas and slowing for turns, ice, and slower traffic; they had to be going way faster than 100mph for some of that. Just think if there was a crash and they took up scarce resources (hospital beds). How stupid and selfish!
Crazy.
I don't know if this is true, but I recall driving on the OH Turnpike years ago, and my then bf claimed that people had been ticketed because the tollbooth people would see the time between getting on and getting off and note that they clearly had been driving over the speed limit.2 -
JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »No mandatory masks here in Texas. Heard USA president talking about opening the country back up soon.Will see who he opens up or not - plus how it goes. I’m still waiting to see our jump in cases from Easter parties. Good news is after that cops are getting like only 40calls a day now so way less work for them so they can concentrate on more important stuff like assisting Medical facilities to food drives ect
Still not sure how he can open a state up if the gov or mayor says no. Federalism, it's real.13 -
JustSomeEm wrote: »Quick update from slightly south of DC (in MD). Masks have become almost mandatory in the area. Several surrounding counties have mandated masks when shopping, and I suspect that my county will come on board shortly. Many stores in the area are already mandating a mask when on their premises. I have a few coming via Amazon eventually, but heaven only knows when they'll get here. In the meantime, I've been heading out with my winter running gator... Also, still working from home and seeking TP. I think I may head to Walmart first thing in the morning tomorrow to see if there is any. And working from home is becoming a bit easier. I wonder if they'll let us continue to do so every once in a while after we are told we can head back to the office...
I ordered a couple of masks from a couple of different places hoping one of them will get to me before the end of the month. Work was nice enough to get us all one but it's too big for me and I'm not sure I have the creative skills to make it work lol. I've tried a couple of no sew ones myself, but they've all been too hard to breathe with so far.
In town I'd say maybe half the people out and about are wearing masks. Out here in the rural counties I'll just see one here or there. It's really easy to stay 6-10 ft away from people and we have very few cases, so I think a lot of people think it's a waste. I hope they're not taking too much of a gamble. There are no mask requirements here I central VA, just recommended.
When I've been in stores lately I've been sure to wear them (about 80% of those I've seen in stores are too). Where I live (in the city, but in a less dense part of it) I see about 50% of people just walking around wearing them and I don't feel like I need to to go for a walk or run as it's easy to avoid people by crossing the street. I'm open to masks but currently they are hard to find, I'm not confident my own homemade ones are any good, and they make my glasses fog up and are hard not to adjust (as cwolfman expressed concern about).4 -
I hate that I'm becoming desensitized to numbers. Back when Italy recorded an all time high of 250 deaths in one day my heart was breaking for them, now people are becoming numbers. I think I may need to lay off checking daily stats for a while.23
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amusedmonkey wrote: »I hate that I'm becoming desensitized to numbers. Back when Italy recorded an all time high of 250 deaths in one day my heart was breaking for them, now people are becoming numbers. I think I may need to lay off checking daily stats for a while.
Perhaps becoming desensitized is required so the left brain can take over and figure a way out of this mess starting with the positive good this virus is bringing to the human race and to nature as a whole.2 -
JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »No mandatory masks here in Texas. Heard USA president talking about opening the country back up soon.Will see who he opens up or not - plus how it goes. I’m still waiting to see our jump in cases from Easter parties. Good news is after that cops are getting like only 40calls a day now so way less work for them so they can concentrate on more important stuff like assisting Medical facilities to food drives ect
Still not sure how he can open a state up if the gov or mayor says no. Federalism, it's real.
Exactly. It has been governors and mayors and county executives who have closed schools and businesses and issued limits on how many people can congregate together. I don't understand why anyone would think that decisions on when to rescind all those order won't be made by the same governors and mayors and county executives.11 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »No mandatory masks here in Texas. Heard USA president talking about opening the country back up soon.Will see who he opens up or not - plus how it goes. I’m still waiting to see our jump in cases from Easter parties. Good news is after that cops are getting like only 40calls a day now so way less work for them so they can concentrate on more important stuff like assisting Medical facilities to food drives ect
Still not sure how he can open a state up if the gov or mayor says no. Federalism, it's real.
Exactly. It has been governors and mayors and county executives who have closed schools and businesses and issued limits on how many people can congregate together. I don't understand why anyone would think that decisions on when to rescind all those order won't be made by the same governors and mayors and county executives.
Yes. And opening prematurely could lead to a whole rush of new cases.8 -
moonangel12 wrote: »JustSomeEm wrote: »Quick update from slightly south of DC (in MD). Masks have become almost mandatory in the area. Several surrounding counties have mandated masks when shopping, and I suspect that my county will come on board shortly. Many stores in the area are already mandating a mask when on their premises. I have a few coming via Amazon eventually, but heaven only knows when they'll get here. In the meantime, I've been heading out with my winter running gator... Also, still working from home and seeking TP. I think I may head to Walmart first thing in the morning tomorrow to see if there is any. And working from home is becoming a bit easier. I wonder if they'll let us continue to do so every once in a while after we are told we can head back to the office...
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/maryland-gov-hogan-signs-order-requiring-people-to-wear-masks-at-stores-on-transit
This was just posted recently...
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Before things re-open, we need testing. I recall there was a big announcement made weeks ago about a test that can be done with results in 5 min. Where are these tests available? If it is that quick, perhaps they should be available in mass. Instead, places are still checking for fevers, which allows asymptomatic carriers to unknowingly spread it.8
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Just got back from Walmart. Got there right as it was opening and managed to snag some TP! Woot! There wasn't much on the shelf, so I'm sure it is already gone by now. They also had Easter candy at half off... I brought way nore home than I should have. I probably should have eaten before I headed out htis morning. During all this 'stay at home' stuff, I've been trying to create sourdough starter, which is taking a LOT of flour. Part of the process is feeding the starter twice a day for a short time to get it going, so I needed to pick up some flour too. There wasn't very much of it, and I felt a bit wasteful buying it to feed to a starter that I'm having trouble getting to do much. I'm strongly considering stopping this little experiment until things are more normal, which makes me a little sad, since I have so much extra time now and likely won't later.
What are y'all doing to pass the time? I have work for 8 hours each day, exercise, cooking and I'm working on a Masters Degree, so homework. But other ideas are always welcome. 7 -
Congrats on snagging some toilet paper.
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@paperpudding thank you for your service.2
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JustSomeEm wrote: » What are y'all doing to pass the time? I have work for 8 hours each day, exercise, cooking and I'm working on a Masters Degree, so homework. But other ideas are always welcome.
I am also working from home for 8 hours a day. If I have the energy I am cooking, but my depression has been making it hard. I also finally have picked up writing again and am working on the trilogy I started so long ago. It's a good outlet and something I enjoy doing which I really need right now.
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@JustSomeEm
Reading........a lot, but I’m retired, and reading is my favorite pastime so it’s all good good.4 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Before things re-open, we need testing. I recall there was a big announcement made weeks ago about a test that can be done with results in 5 min. Where are these tests available? If it is that quick, perhaps they should be available in mass. Instead, places are still checking for fevers, which allows asymptomatic carriers to unknowingly spread it.
That was from two companies, one of which I know is Abbott Labs. There's another one too. The issues are that they also need a cartridge for them that also has to be manufactured. The machines are complex to make and the cartridges were slow to roll out. Only reason I know all this is I've been daytrading more since recruiting is more or less shut down for a while, though I'm doing some work for tech startups.
Their ability to produce the cartridges fast enough has been an issue. Another issue has been the feds laying off responsibility on the states and not taking the lead. That is certainly slowing things down. You have to have a federal response. I think, out of fairness, that the Feds have been more concentrated on PPEs and ventilators (and the economy) -- you have multiple disasters that need addressed all at once -- but their attention is being moved to this now.3 -
@JustSomeEm
You can use discard starter in recipes.
https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/sourdough-crumpets-recipe
What recipe are you using for the starter? There lots of different ways to get one going.
Regarding what has been keeping me busy? Gardening and sewing.1 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »@JustSomeEm
You can use discard starter in recipes.
https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/sourdough-crumpets-recipe
What recipe are you using for the starter? There lots of different ways to get one going.
Regarding what has been keeping me busy? Gardening and sewing.
Those are GOOD! my husband made some last week.
He's been doing a lot of baking in general - Welsh cakes, Irish soda bread, sourdough bread, the list goes on. Good thing we have an exercise bike.
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just_Tomek wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »I hate that I'm becoming desensitized to numbers. Back when Italy recorded an all time high of 250 deaths in one day my heart was breaking for them, now people are becoming numbers. I think I may need to lay off checking daily stats for a while.
Perhaps becoming desensitized is required so the left brain can take over and figure a way out of this mess starting with the positive good this virus is bringing to the human race and to nature as a whole.
Honestly pretty much every single one of your posts, especially here, WTF man???!?!?!?!
To add to the quoted post from gale, there are people who are going to say that this pandemic has brought out the best in people and showed how people can come together in a time of crisis.
But... shouldnt we be doing this anyway? Do we honestly need the thousands of lives lost? The heart broken families? The struggle of families trying to pay their Bill's? Feed their families? Keep up with work and home and trying to now home school their kids with no experience? Do we need all that to happen to have people be there for others? The best in people should be there no matter if there is a pandemic or not.
I highly doubt anyone who has lost a loved one or their business, their lives would appreciate it if someone looked at them nonchalantly and said yeah that sucks.. but hey, look how great it is to give nature a break.14 -
KrissCanDoThis wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »I hate that I'm becoming desensitized to numbers. Back when Italy recorded an all time high of 250 deaths in one day my heart was breaking for them, now people are becoming numbers. I think I may need to lay off checking daily stats for a while.
Perhaps becoming desensitized is required so the left brain can take over and figure a way out of this mess starting with the positive good this virus is bringing to the human race and to nature as a whole.
Honestly pretty much every single one of your posts, especially here, WTF man???!?!?!?!
To add to the quoted post from gale, there are people who are going to say that this pandemic has brought out the best in people and showed how people can come together in a time of crisis.
But... shouldnt we be doing this anyway? Do we honestly need the thousands of lives lost? The heart broken families? The struggle of families trying to pay their Bill's? Feed their families? Keep up with work and home and trying to now home school their kids with no experience? Do we need all that to happen to have people be there for others? The best in people should be there no matter if there is a pandemic or not.
I highly doubt anyone who has lost a loved one or their business, their lives would appreciate it if someone looked at them nonchalantly and said yeah that sucks.. but hey, look how great it is to give nature a break.
I think it is a human impulse to believe that things happen for a reason and to look for the "silver lining" behind even terrible events. We can't ignore that terrible events sometimes show us the grace and resilience that humans are capable of, but I think it's extremely insensitive to talk about the results of this pandemic being a "positive good." My mind thinks about some of the heartbreaking stories I've read over the past few weeks and I'm also thinking of the huge economic cost people are enduring (which is, of course, actually emotionally terrifying for those going through it). To focus on the good to nature seems rampantly cruel.7 -
JustSomeEm wrote: » What are y'all doing to pass the time? I have work for 8 hours each day, exercise, cooking and I'm working on a Masters Degree, so homework. But other ideas are always welcome.
I am also working from home for 8 hours a day. If I have the energy I am cooking, but my depression has been making it hard. I also finally have picked up writing again and am working on the trilogy I started so long ago. It's a good outlet and something I enjoy doing which I really need right now.
For lots of people, just getting through the day is an accomplishment in itself especially if depression and anxiety are factors. No one should be made to feel like they've 'wasted' their time or feel diminished or unaccomplished if they haven't freaking cured cancer during their downtime.
People have enough to worry about right now.
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Gardening and sewing for me as wel! I have logged more hours on my machine in the last couple weeks than in... well... I have no idea!L1zardQueen wrote: »@JustSomeEm
You can use discard starter in recipes.
https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/sourdough-crumpets-recipe
What recipe are you using for the starter? There lots of different ways to get one going.
Regarding what has been keeping me busy? Gardening and sewing.
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For real. The two weeks I was furloughed, I considered a day I put on real pants a success. I puttered around the house, did a little yard work and a little baking. I also re-watched all 3 LOTR extended version and 4 seasons of Great British Baking Show on Netflix and did not organize my closet like I intended.snickerscharlie wrote: »JustSomeEm wrote: » What are y'all doing to pass the time? I have work for 8 hours each day, exercise, cooking and I'm working on a Masters Degree, so homework. But other ideas are always welcome.
I am also working from home for 8 hours a day. If I have the energy I am cooking, but my depression has been making it hard. I also finally have picked up writing again and am working on the trilogy I started so long ago. It's a good outlet and something I enjoy doing which I really need right now.
For lots of people, just getting through the day is an accomplishment in itself especially if depression and anxiety are factors. No one should be made to feel like they've 'wasted' their time or feel diminished or unaccomplished if they haven't freaking cured cancer during their downtime.
People have enough to worry about right now.
Getting up and doing things is generally helpful for mild depression, but ignore everyone saying we need to be journaling and learning a new language and making gourmet meals to enjoy alone right now!11 -
JustSomeEm wrote: »Just got back from Walmart. Got there right as it was opening and managed to snag some TP! Woot! There wasn't much on the shelf, so I'm sure it is already gone by now. They also had Easter candy at half off... I brought way nore home than I should have. I probably should have eaten before I headed out htis morning. During all this 'stay at home' stuff, I've been trying to create sourdough starter, which is taking a LOT of flour. Part of the process is feeding the starter twice a day for a short time to get it going, so I needed to pick up some flour too. There wasn't very much of it, and I felt a bit wasteful buying it to feed to a starter that I'm having trouble getting to do much. I'm strongly considering stopping this little experiment until things are more normal, which makes me a little sad, since I have so much extra time now and likely won't later. What are y'all doing to pass the time? I have work for 8 hours each day, exercise, cooking and I'm working on a Masters Degree, so homework. But other ideas are always welcome.
I’ve been having the same thoughts about sourdough starters. It’s something I’ve done a few times previously but, even at a better time when flour was easy to source, the thought of the inherent wastefulness to maintain a starter brought me to a halt. As a household of 3 there’s no way we could use the discard without there simply being more baked goods around than we’d eat in a decade!
However...I’ve recently come across a method of producing yeast from boiled potato. The starch in the potato replaces the need to ‘feed’ your yeast with flour. You use the fermented potato water to replace the liquid element of your usual bread recipe. I’ve not yet tried it because I don’t have enough flour on hand to make a loaf anyway. Once I manage to procure flour I’m going to give it a go!
https://practicalselfreliance.com/potato-yeast-starter/
Although, I’m excited! Yesterday evening my daughter’s boyfriend’s sister’s boyfriend (😂) messaged their family WhatsApp group chat that a pub near him (50 something miles from me) was selling some groceries including bread flour and yeast!! He managed to get me some of both! Just have to wait until someone is over this direction for work to have it dropped off! 😂7 -
janejellyroll wrote: »KrissCanDoThis wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »I hate that I'm becoming desensitized to numbers. Back when Italy recorded an all time high of 250 deaths in one day my heart was breaking for them, now people are becoming numbers. I think I may need to lay off checking daily stats for a while.
Perhaps becoming desensitized is required so the left brain can take over and figure a way out of this mess starting with the positive good this virus is bringing to the human race and to nature as a whole.
Honestly pretty much every single one of your posts, especially here, WTF man???!?!?!?!
To add to the quoted post from gale, there are people who are going to say that this pandemic has brought out the best in people and showed how people can come together in a time of crisis.
But... shouldnt we be doing this anyway? Do we honestly need the thousands of lives lost? The heart broken families? The struggle of families trying to pay their Bill's? Feed their families? Keep up with work and home and trying to now home school their kids with no experience? Do we need all that to happen to have people be there for others? The best in people should be there no matter if there is a pandemic or not.
I highly doubt anyone who has lost a loved one or their business, their lives would appreciate it if someone looked at them nonchalantly and said yeah that sucks.. but hey, look how great it is to give nature a break.
I think it is a human impulse to believe that things happen for a reason and to look for the "silver lining" behind even terrible events. We can't ignore that terrible events sometimes show us the grace and resilience that humans are capable of, but I think it's extremely insensitive to talk about the results of this pandemic being a "positive good." My mind thinks about some of the heartbreaking stories I've read over the past few weeks and I'm also thinking of the huge economic cost people are enduring (which is, of course, actually emotionally terrifying for those going through it). To focus on the good to nature seems rampantly cruel.
Agreed
I think as humans we also have the capacity to appreciate silver linings without needing to downsize, ignore, or leave ourselves desensitized purposefully to the struggle and suffering of others just to only see the good in something.
I see it all the time in the nursing home, when a resident is on palliative care, your heart breaks for those families who come in everyday or even sleep at the facility to be next to their loved ones, knowing they are losing them and are helpless to stop it.
But you also know that despite morphine drip, they do experience pain.
When a resident passes quickly, it's often a relief knowing that the person didnt have to go through that pain for too long, but that doesnt take away from the grief or sadness of that loss, you appreciate the silver linings inside your mind for the person who passed, but no one would ever say to a family member going through that loss "well at least they passed fast and didnt suffer, how long before the room is empty? We need to have it cleaned for the next resident to live in it"9
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