So you want a nice stomach
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cupcakesandproteinshakes wrote: »I’m sorry that came across as me doubting your seriousness.
It does take consistently showing up at the gym 3 to 6 times a week and following an effective progressive overload programme, for most people it’s years and years of work to get a great physique. So you need to work out a way of making training a pleasure rather than a struggle. You need to enjoy the journey of training imo.
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cupcakesandproteinshakes wrote: »I’m sorry that came across as me doubting your seriousness.
It does take consistently showing up at the gym 3 to 6 times a week and following an effective progressive overload programme, for most people it’s years and years of work to get a great physique. So you need to work out a way of making training a pleasure rather than a struggle. You need to enjoy the journey of training imo.
I did PHUL for 3 months and enjoyed it. I found the sessions took over an hour which was a bit long for me so I chanted programme I don’t know what to suggest, other than if you don’t enjoy lifting weights then maybe find another way of training they can give you some muscle. Maybe a bodyweight gymnastics programme?. Cross fit if you like group training? I don’t really know what else to suggest. When I started out I had a training partner and that helped as I had someone to talk to between sets.0 -
cupcakesandproteinshakes wrote: »I’m sorry that came across as me doubting your seriousness.
It does take consistently showing up at the gym 3 to 6 times a week and following an effective progressive overload programme, for most people it’s years and years of work to get a great physique. So you need to work out a way of making training a pleasure rather than a struggle. You need to enjoy the journey of training imo.
Just keep at it and try to be as patient as you can - doubly so if you are going to approach this as a recomp. It's a really slow process and plateaus are all part of it. Linear progression only happens with very new lifters or people returning after a long hiatus. I've heard an idea before that makes a lot of sense - that real progress and adding lean mass really starts after your first hard plateau. What they mean by this is that initially most of the progress new lifters are seeing is basically your body learning how to properly use what it already has -- central nervous system adaptations. Once those are tapped your body has no choice but to add more mass. It's a very simplified explanation and not entirely accurate but there is enough truth to it that hitting a plateau should just give you extra motivation to push harder and break through. Keep in mind, this is a process that can take years. Just don't give up and eventually if your programming, effort, and diet is adequate you will see results.1 -
cupcakesandproteinshakes wrote: »I did PHUL for 3 months and enjoyed it. I found the sessions took over an hour which was a bit long for me so I chanted programme I don’t know what to suggest, other than if you don’t enjoy lifting weights then maybe find another way of training they can give you some muscle. Maybe a bodyweight gymnastics programme?. Cross fit if you like group training? I don’t really know what else to suggest. When I started out I had a training partner and that helped as I had someone to talk to between sets.jseams1234 wrote: »Just keep at it and try to be as patient as you can - doubly so if you are going to approach this as a recomp. It's a really slow process and plateaus are all part of it. Linear progression only happens with very new lifters or people returning after a long hiatus. I've heard an idea before that makes a lot of sense - that real progress and adding lean mass really starts after your first hard plateau. What they mean by this is that initially most of the progress new lifters are seeing is basically your body learning how to properly use what it already has -- central nervous system adaptations. Once those are tapped your body has no choice but to add more mass. It's a very simplified explanation and not entirely accurate but there is enough truth to it that hitting a plateau should just give you extra motivation to push harder and break through. Keep in mind, this is a process that can take years. Just don't give up and eventually if your programming, effort, and diet is adequate you will see results.0
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In the 114 pages of this, I’m sure it’s been discussed but let’s chat food selection aka quality. Whole Foods vs processed. Does it make a difference?? Any science?2
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In the 114 pages of this, I’m sure it’s been discussed but let’s chat food selection aka quality. Whole Foods vs processed. Does it make a difference?? Any science?
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This thread has been a really useful, nice thing . . . and the "effects of processed foods" topic often heads quickly toward "why we can't have nice things" behavior, historically.
There's been a lot of debate about it over in the debate forum, with plenty of science, as is usual for that area. I think the most recent related thread was this one, and there have been plenty of others:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10744444/processed-foods-cause-more-weight-gain/p1
ETA: Or this one . . .
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10352914/is-the-amount-of-easy-access-processed-food-harming-dieters-health/p1
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So you want abs...
There isan exercise called a Stability Ball dumbbell Pullover. I honestly do not understand why more people don't do it. The first two video examples are trainers. I wrote this post months ago for someone who did not want to do crunches and planks anymore because they were causing severe back pain. Which they do...
https://youtu.be/NmOXqeXnbPM
https://youtu.be/6os8lrYrMto
This is the best exercise I've found for lats and core. Specifically obliques and lower abdominal abs. The Hypertrophy is crazy good. Go slow and concentrate on the lats, rib cage pulled in, and your abs tight. Be sure to keep your abs and ribs sucked in for the whole motion, breathing out on the way up. Lower the dumbbell as close to the floor as you can and raise it to over your belly button or as close as you can. Unlike the videos, use the full range of motion. Use a weight that challenges your shoulders but does not injure you nor causes you to drop it. Your better to start light and work up in weight. Do 20 - 30 reps. 2 - 4 sets. Because the motion is natural, unlike sit-ups you can rep out many sets of these.
Below is Athlean-X Jeff Cavaliere doing almost the same exercise. Fast forward to 4:30 in the video
https://youtu.be/yPrsuV3E-Dc?t=270
Variations of Leg positions:
To hit different parts of your abs try different leg positions.
1. Table top: Legs together, knees at 90 degrees, feet flat or on your heels toes up.
2. Leg V: Plank straight, legs spread apart. Tuck in your glutes.
3. Leg Plank: Legs together as close as you can in a plank, board flat position.
4.Wrap the ball (Like Jeff did): Hips dropped, Knees bent, Wrap your back around the ball to maximize contact and really stretch your abs.
I do 50 of these every second day.3 -
In the 114 pages of this, I’m sure it’s been discussed but let’s chat food selection aka quality. Whole Foods vs processed. Does it make a difference?? Any science?
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This thread has been a really useful, nice thing . . . and the "effects of processed foods" topic often heads quickly toward "why we can't have nice things" behavior, historically.
There's been a lot of debate about it over in the debate forum, with plenty of science, as is usual for that area. I think the most recent related thread was this one, and there have been plenty of others:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10744444/processed-foods-cause-more-weight-gain/p1
ETA: Or this one . . .
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10352914/is-the-amount-of-easy-access-processed-food-harming-dieters-health/p1
Maybe check out some of the threads there?
I knew I could count on you haha. Thanks! I think I intuitively thought processed food=processed stuff in my body. WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT DOES??? And then processed food = processed food cravings.2 -
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Well, not so much research, as links to threads where debating "processed foods vs. whole foods" would be on topic, and where there's already a lot of science-link slinging on the subject . . . unlike in this-here thread, where it's just a side issue/digression . . . and one that often results in thread-killing rancor, besides. Wouldn't want that happen to a very nice thread like this one, would we? 😉
So, how about we all enjoy the "processed vs. whole foods" debate in one of these, over in the *debate* forum?
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10744444/processed-foods-cause-more-weight-gain/p1
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10352914/is-the-amount-of-easy-access-processed-food-harming-dieters-health/p1
Or heck, start another thread on the subject, over in "Debate", where it belongs.
Current thread: "How to Get a Nice Stomach" . . . and a fine thread it is, too, IMO.7 -
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In the 114 pages of this, I’m sure it’s been discussed but let’s chat food selection aka quality. Whole Foods vs processed. Does it make a difference?? Any science?
I guess I missed this earlier conversation and this is only my personal experience, so not suitable for debate forum, but processed food has no affect on how I look historically. I used this example on my personal feed to show that body composition can have zero correlation with how healthy you or your diet is. On the left I was eating balanced, mostly whole food (some processed) and exercising every day. On the right, no exercise for weeks, barely eating due to huge levels of stress and what I was eating was either fruit or processed carbs/fat/sugar. I doubt a bit of protein even passed my lips. So what you see is the result of a good muscle base showing through due to weight loss (however unhealthily it was achieved)
**Kids do NOT try this at home**
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