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  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    Italy is doing free antibody testing of selective people all over the country to get data. They call you and tell you where to go to be tested. Problem is, the response hasn't been what was expected. Reading the paper today the reason given is fear that testing positive will result in quaranteening, and people don't want that. So, about a third agree to have it done.
  • moonangel12
    moonangel12 Posts: 971 Member
    Our area is still considered a hot spot yet I see very few people wearing masks... seems to be site specific. The outdoor custard trailer? We are normally the only ones wearing them both while waiting and ordering... them we take our stuff back to the vehicle. Very few people following the distancing suggestions, large groups congregating. Aldi (grocery store) is 50/50 probably. They have taken up their directional stickers, but still limiting numbers in the store, wiping down carts between customers, limiting check out contact (you have to wait until the other person’s items have cleared the belt before loading yours, wiping down pin pad, etc), and I have noticed most everywhere that more stuff is packaged now (produce) which is good for contamination purposes but stinks in terms of added packaging to throw away and also not be able to choose items or amounts now.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,887 Member
    I'm downtown today, rather than in my neighborhood, and outdoors it seems like fewer people are wearing masks and many who are are wearing them around their chin (or occasionally over the mouth but not nose). There is NO difficulty getting masks here.

    The good thing is that the buildings are being very strict about social distancing and masks -- you can't go in them without masks -- and there are few enough people downtown that social distancing isn't hard, but it still seems odd. Partly it's probably because it's hot, partly because the people walking around outside are from a much broader range of areas than those you see in my neighborhood.

    Not bothersome, but odd.
  • Diatonic12
    Diatonic12 Posts: 32,344 Member
    Ayup. ^^The imaginary mask thing. Wear it down below your nose and mouth. I saw this at the hospital when my relative was getting a blood test and it was the nurse. Why bother.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,792 Member
    Here's something I just thought about (maybe you guys have too...)

    IF someone has already had the virus they likely won't be offered the first round of vaccines I wouldn't think, unless they are "essential workers" [cough].

    What do you think? Do you think they will test people before vaccinating? That would be the sensible thing to do with vaccines being in such high demand when they get to market. It seems like several companies could have vaccines in six months or so...wonder who gets them after first responders/medical personnel? Of course I'd like it to be people over 65...
  • corinasue1143
    corinasue1143 Posts: 7,460 Member
    Diatonic12 wrote: »
    Ayup. ^^The imaginary mask thing. Wear it down below your nose and mouth. I saw this at the hospital when my relative was getting a blood test and it was the nurse. Why bother.

    Most or all hospitals here wouldn’t have let you in.

  • jo_nz
    jo_nz Posts: 548 Member
    Here's something I just thought about (maybe you guys have too...)

    IF someone has already had the virus they likely won't be offered the first round of vaccines I wouldn't think, unless they are "essential workers" [cough].

    What do you think? Do you think they will test people before vaccinating? That would be the sensible thing to do with vaccines being in such high demand when they get to market. It seems like several companies could have vaccines in six months or so...wonder who gets them after first responders/medical personnel? Of course I'd like it to be people over 65...

    We already have that with flu vaccinations here - over 65, or with a pre-existing condition get it first. Then this year it was essential workers next, and then the rest of the population.
    So I am guessing it would be similar.


    Our covid-free status has ended. 2 people who came into the country and were released early from quarantine to see a dying family member have now tested positive.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,792 Member
    edited June 2020
    So, yay for being old, right? I'm all about cutting in line. I haven't had a face-to-face friendly conversation in months. I'm OVER this whole social distancing thing. I live alone and have no family and I miss the small social life I had, the stores, I'm even afraid to get my teeth cleaned.


    I agree @kimny72 - we don't pre-test flu shot candidates and then there's the whole anti-vaxxer thing. :lol: Well, Oregon does have a low infection rate, may as well just tick that state's box as, "Don't need it." (There is a significant anti-vax contingency in OR.)

    Time will tell. Bring on the needles, I say.

    ..and @jo_nz , we do have 360 Million people here and well over 2 million cases, so our situation is decidedly different.
  • RetiredAndLovingIt
    RetiredAndLovingIt Posts: 1,395 Member
    I’m a senior..I plan to get it as soon as I can!
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,792 Member
    But I'm even wondering if they will ask people, "Have you tested positive?" Of course, Public Health will have us on record if we did and that would probably mean being disqualified from the vaccine? I don't know. I guess it is all a wait-and-see thing.

    I mean, the push to get enough vaccine out there for the billions of at-risk people in the world is pretty intense. Not everyone will get the vaccine in time.
  • autumnblade75
    autumnblade75 Posts: 1,661 Member
    I'll be interested in a vaccine, eventually. I don't think I necessarily want to be first in line for the new "skip some steps to rush to market" vaccine. I don't do a lot of social stuff, so I'm just risking myself and my husband, here. He's not much more social than me, either. I guess my coworkers, too - but they can't be bothered to wear masks, and don't seem to understand social distancing. I think they're endangering me more than I am them. We'll see how risky the vaccine is, compared to the disease.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,792 Member
    But I'm even wondering if they will ask people, "Have you tested positive?" Of course, Public Health will have us on record if we did and that would probably mean being disqualified from the vaccine? I don't know. I guess it is all a wait-and-see thing.

    I mean, the push to get enough vaccine out there for the billions of at-risk people in the world is pretty intense. Not everyone will get the vaccine in time.

    Ah, but there are many that are working on it and will produce it. I'm hopeful. In Italy, we should have it by Fall. Yes, I know the vaccine itself can be a risk. We will evaluate when the time comes.

    Oh, I am with you snowflake. I'm pretty amazed at how quickly it seems to be going. I was pretty skeptical that a vaccine would be produced this quickly. I guess time will tell as to its effectiveness. It's an awfully large "experiment."
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Diatonic12 wrote: »
    Ayup. ^^The imaginary mask thing. Wear it down below your nose and mouth. I saw this at the hospital when my relative was getting a blood test and it was the nurse. Why bother.

    You wouldn't even get in the door at a hospital or clinic here without a mask and if you removed it once inside you would promptly be escorted out by security. I had blood work done a couple weeks ago and had to check in outside getting my temperature taken and a host of questions, then moved to another station where I filled out a little card with my phone number, etc and had to go wait in my car until they called me into the lobby. The lobby was limited to 4 people.

    Mask use is high in New Mexico, at least in the urban centers...I think it may be a little more lax in rural areas...but definitely required for entering a healthcare facility as we do not have the healthcare resources here to handle a whole lot outside of what is normal. We just don't have much capacity for something like this.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    Wisconsin in proving to be an interesting case. Back in May, the state Supreme Court ruled that stay-at-home orders were illegal, leaving it up to cities and counties to determine how to handle the crisis and opening up. We are a state with a lot of small towns and farmland, with a few big cities. When covid first hit, the cities were hit the hardest which was not a surprise.

    After the ruling, the two largest cities (actually the entire county they were in) declared that they were still following stay at home but many of the more rural counties opened up. We had a small spike in some places but the state average actually has been going down. I guess this is a good demonstration that avoiding large groups of people works, whether it is your normal behavior or by government decree.

    The court ruling was May 13.

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  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,887 Member
    earlnabby wrote: »
    Wisconsin in proving to be an interesting case. Back in May, the state Supreme Court ruled that stay-at-home orders were illegal, leaving it up to cities and counties to determine how to handle the crisis and opening up. We are a state with a lot of small towns and farmland, with a few big cities. When covid first hit, the cities were hit the hardest which was not a surprise.

    After the ruling, the two largest cities (actually the entire county they were in) declared that they were still following stay at home but many of the more rural counties opened up. We had a small spike in some places but the state average actually has been going down. I guess this is a good demonstration that avoiding large groups of people works, whether it is your normal behavior or by government decree.

    The court ruling was May 13.

    Yeah, it does seem to me that despite a generally lax attitude to the stay at home orders and masks that smaller and more rural areas are doing just fine, which is why I'm not that bothered by it. It's definitely true throughout much of IL.

    More dense urban areas (cities and counties) are the ones that really seem to need to be strict about it. We are finally going down, but I am more frustrated by how many aren't being sensible here given how slowly the decline is. But I also understand that it's hard -- well, I don't understand not wearing the masks when you are in close proximity to others and cannot social distance well -- in that it's just been so long.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 37,008 Member
    I haven't read all the replies.

    For those who say mask usage is low where you are, what is the availability of masks?

    I saw low mask usage in the last couple of weeks, probably since we went into phase 1 on May 4th. Suddenly, mask usage is going up. But also, I JUST started seeing masks for sale in regular stores - Target, Kroger, etc. I bought some.

    I think this may have something to do with low usage, not everyone can sew. Not everyone goes on etsy to buy masks. But if you can pick up a pack at your local store? When you are buying groceries? Maybe that will help with usage. It is a little sucky of the government to ask everyone (or require everyone) to wear masks but not PROVIDE them, and not only are they not provided they aren't available to the average person, what with doctor's offices and hair salons buying a bunch (I mean, they need them too).

    That said, usage is way up this week. I'm glad to see more people wearing masks!

    There may be something to that (the bolded), but it seems odd to me in this way: The public health info that's been publicized has been very clear that any reasonable face covering can be used, even a bandana or scarf. Those are and have been pretty universally available in stores, and I'd bet most households had at least one even before this.

    I think it's possible that availability of official masks has been a little bit fetishized or "magicalized", though - I've observed some of my friends and acquaintences speaking as if a mask-shaped 2-layer piece of cotton fabric is somehow much superior to a scarf-shaped 2-layer piece of cotton fabric, which seems weird to me (in a case where there's at least equal facial fit/coverage, of course).

    I'd say usage here has been 50% and up in most places I've been, but everyone and her sister has been sewing home-made masks here for a couple of months now, and early on I had multiple Facebook friends either offering them to others for free, or for money but not a huge amount. I doubt I'm unique in that, so I think most people probably could've gotten one without much difficulty since the first half of March, at least. A fair percentage of masks I see are home-made cloth ones, at least half, with the rest a mix of the medical-ish-looking commercial ones, fancy fitted commercial ones, or something improvised (bandanas, shop masks, etc.).