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ExistingFish wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »richardgavel wrote: »Our Mayor in Chicago said if the young people don't start wearing masks and practice social distancing, we are going back to Phase 3 which means closing businesses, restaurants, salons and THE GYM!!!!! NOOOOOOOO!!!
And yet, I haven't seen anyone at the gym without a mask. They are cleaning the equipment. So what is the value of closing places that based on the science, are low risk to spread? I though decisions were being made based on facts and science.
Somewhat facts and science. Somewhat dependent on whim. Sort of like when the teacher punishes the whole class because a few kids are acting up.
I agree, have been to my gym a couple times. Masks where they're supposed to be worn, everyone that walks in gets a cleaning towel and disinfectant spray bottle (plus the staff is constantly cleaning).
I have been to my old gym and my new gym (I switched to a closer, less crowded one). People are doing really good at social distancing. At my new gym - everyone cleans. At my old gym, I didn't see that many people cleaning. It was also busier and harder to maintain social distance. My new gym also has the doors open and fans going to circulate the outdoor air in and the indoor air out (because the AC sucks...but it moves the air and dissipates people's breaths).
I think it depends on the type of gym. I now to go to a weightlifting only gym. People are really good at being away from other people and carrying around cleaning supplies. Other gyms that are bigger on group classes and stuff may have a far harder time.
RE-closing gyms are not because of your gym, it's because of my gym. I went in when it first reopened: machines were farther apart, limited capacity, more strenuous cleaning...
...but only maybe 20% of the people in there were wearing masks, and only a couple of people correctly.
Nope. I haven't been back since.5 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »https://www.wlwt.com/article/couple-forced-to-wear-ankle-monitors-to-self-isolate-after-kentucky-woman-tests-positive-for-covid-19/33357364
Short story: KY couple tested before traveling to MI, woman has Coronavirus and is asymptomatic. Refused to agree not to travel, so they made them wear monitoring devices.
BTW, this is another case where everybody getting tested helps.
Cases like this one may just drive more people to not get tested when they expect they may test positive.
With the way the known positive cases are increasing in KY we know if we shop we are going into places with positive employees and shoppers daily.
It seems like the 15-40 age group more and more are 'assuming' they are going to test positive regardless of what they do and think letting COVID-19 spread like wild fire may be a good thing.
Self isolating it becoming harder and harder but now is about the only option for we seniors. Locally a family of 4 with two minor kids returned from FL vacation to test positive. The ankle bracelet story may be counter productive.
UPS and FedEx drivers coming to the house are very concerned but not enough to wear masks yet it seems.
https://jpost.com/health-science/people-with-blood-type-o-are-more-protected-against-covid-19-studies-show-631502
I wish this stress factor was not in the news so often.
@GaleHawkins
If that couple had not gotten a test before visiting family, they would have infected all of them. Good for them for getting the test, but bad for even thinking in visiting anybody. Just stay home (I know ii is hard), so everybody will be safer and the spread of the virus more controlled.
In my area UPS, FedExp and USPS drivers wear masks and gloves. I thought that it was a requirement for all of them. Maybe not...
Very sorry to hear about the family returning from Florida with COVID-19 infection, specially the children. But why in the world they went on vacation to such a HOT state? Did they think that they were immune, they didn't think about the children and on how many other people they probably infected in Florida or on their way back home?
What is wrong with people???? Vacations are fun and good, visiting friends and families is fun and good. I-get-it. Being in the hospital, the ICU, or hooked to a ventilator or coughing your lungs out is NOT FUN and NOT GOOD.
Stay home as much as possible, wash your hands, wear a mask when going out, keep your distance. Be smart and thoughtful.
OK, Sunday rant over..., back to my chores.
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Totally with you, Gisel2015. I ask this all the time.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »https://www.wlwt.com/article/couple-forced-to-wear-ankle-monitors-to-self-isolate-after-kentucky-woman-tests-positive-for-covid-19/33357364
Short story: KY couple tested before traveling to MI, woman has Coronavirus and is asymptomatic. Refused to agree not to travel, so they made them wear monitoring devices.
BTW, this is another case where everybody getting tested helps.
Cases like this one may just drive more people to not get tested when they expect they may test positive.
With the way the known positive cases are increasing in KY we know if we shop we are going into places with positive employees and shoppers daily.
It seems like the 15-40 age group more and more are 'assuming' they are going to test positive regardless of what they do and think letting COVID-19 spread like wild fire may be a good thing.
Self isolating it becoming harder and harder but now is about the only option for we seniors. Locally a family of 4 with two minor kids returned from FL vacation to test positive. The ankle bracelet story may be counter productive.
UPS and FedEx drivers coming to the house are very concerned but not enough to wear masks yet it seems.
https://jpost.com/health-science/people-with-blood-type-o-are-more-protected-against-covid-19-studies-show-631502
I wish this stress factor was not in the news so often.
@GaleHawkins
If that couple had not gotten a test before visiting family, they would have infected all of them. Good for them for getting the test, but bad for even thinking in visiting anybody. Just stay home (I know ii is hard), so everybody will be safer and the spread of the virus more controlled.
In my area UPS, FedExp and USPS drivers wear masks and gloves. I thought that it was a requirement for all of them. Maybe not...
Very sorry to hear about the family returning from Florida with COVID-19 infection, specially the children. But why in the world they went on vacation to such a HOT state? Did they think that they were immune, they didn't think about the children and on how many other people they probably infected in Florida or on their way back home?
What is wrong with people???? Vacations are fun and good, visiting friends and families is fun and good. I-get-it. Being in the hospital, the ICU, or hooked to a ventilator or coughing your lungs out is NOT FUN and NOT GOOD.
Stay home as much as possible, wash your hands, wear a mask when going out, keep your distance. Be smart and thoughtful.
OK, Sunday rant over..., back to my chores.
I know... I had a co-worker go to Florida a couple weeks ago and another that was in Alabama last week (coming back this week, I think). Another co-worker probably going to one of those places next month. I'm in Tennessee, which is another hot state and these people are driving rather than flying (I'm thinking a few min. at a gas station is better than an hour or 2 sitting around a bunch of strangers in the terminal and on the plane). But I'm not sure why people think they should take vacation at all! Everyone wants to go to the beach like they do every year. Maybe this year should be an exception.10 -
I want to join your gym so bad now.
If only because of the excellent ventilation system.
Tomorrow, masks are mandatory at the grocery stores here. The clerks are scared and so are the locals. We do have some local yocal fruit bowls. I went there early this morning and hardly anyone was wearing one but tomorrow is coming. You could feel the tension in the air. This is the wild, wild west but calmer heads must prevail. As my father says, we've all got to use our heads besides something to part our ears with.
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I'm getting more and more frustrated at the number of people not wearing masks. They have been mandatory in Pennsylvania for months. Thanks to rising Covid numbers, the state has recently added restrictions that are likely to bankrupt a lot of businesses (25% maximum capacity for restaurants, no bars can sell liquor unless they serve meals, etc.). Despite the rising numbers, about half the people at Lowes weren't wearing masks, and about 1/4 of the people at the 'good' grocery store. At Sheetz (a minimart/gas station) probably 3/4 had no masks. All the stores had signs out front saying they were required. Nobody was enforcing the rule. I wanted to say something, but didn't want to deal with possible violent confrontations, so kept my mouth shut. There were a lot of folks over 70 who were maskless.8
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@spiriteagle99 Ayup. It's the older cowboys who are stubborn as mules. They'll literally stare you down and give you the stinkeye. I have no idea how they're going to enforce it but some of the bigger box stores have guards dressed in black at the door a few towns away from me.
My teeth are on edge. 3 -
We just had another incident here.
43-year-old guy went into a convenience store without a mask, got into an argument with 77-year-old customer who was masked. Argument went into the parking lot, where the younger guy stabbed the older one. (Hospitalized, stable condition.)
Deputies found the younger guy, who came at one of them with the knife and got himself shot, dead.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/14/michigan-mask-confrontation-man-shot-killed-police-after-stabbing/5436217002/ (Some of what I wrote about it comes from other sources than this article.)
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FWIW (though I can't decide whether this is reassuring, or just the opposite), the store, from this incident I reported on earlier, says that the 77-year-old man who was stabbed did *not* confront or argue with the 43-year-old about not wearing a mask. The older guy was an innocent bystander, the store says: He just happened to be in the parking lot when the younger guy went rogue after being asked by an employee to wear a mask. The store reports there was no confrontation or conversation between the two at all.
I've not been able to find an update on the older gentleman's condition, listed several days ago as "critical but stable"8 -
I just learned that we still can't be tested here in South Dakota without symptoms. My hair stylist (a friend even though I'm isolating and not getting hair cuts) tried to get a test after her son got sick and was confirmed positive. Even though she's in a close-contact service job, no test.6
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We just had another incident here.
43-year-old guy went into a convenience store without a mask, got into an argument with 77-year-old customer who was masked. Argument went into the parking lot, where the younger guy stabbed the older one. (Hospitalized, stable condition.)
Deputies found the younger guy, who came at one of them with the knife and got himself shot, dead.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/14/michigan-mask-confrontation-man-shot-killed-police-after-stabbing/5436217002/ (Some of what I wrote about it comes from other sources than this article.)
(snip)
FWIW (though I can't decide whether this is reassuring, or just the opposite), the store, from this incident I reported on earlier, says that the 77-year-old man who was stabbed did *not* confront or argue with the 43-year-old about not wearing a mask. The older guy was an innocent bystander, the store says: He just happened to be in the parking lot when the younger guy went rogue after being asked by an employee to wear a mask. The store reports there was no confrontation or conversation between the two at all.
I've not been able to find an update on the older gentleman's condition, listed several days ago as "critical but stable"
It just goes to show that the old idea of "staying out of it" and saying nothing in order to avoid a retaliatory attack doesn't always work.5 -
So, shifting gears from the deprecated hand-wringing about masks, back to something more like true prep: Anybody got new, learned strategies?
Despite being in a couple of risk groups (60+, early-stage COPD), my life still includes in-person grocery shopping, but I'm trying to make bigger but less frequent trips. I'm now somewhere in the 10 days to 3 weeks spacing. (I know there's curbside pick-up, and shopping services, but totally subjectively that makes me feel like "Wall-E: The Prequel". That's an emotional - and NEAT-related - reaction, so I'm not judging/criticizing anyone who uses those services for any or no reason - I hope you understand).
I already mentioned that freezing milk was a big help to me, in spacing out grocery shopping. Right now, my usual rate-controlling essential grocery item is Greek yogurt, with a 2-3 week supply feasible. (Yes, I know how to make yogurt at home, and have done it lots, in my past. Now I'm lazy, and Costco's is better.)
I'm a hedonist, so I have limited willingness to give up yum much, in order to reduce shopping trips, where practical. So, I'm looking for others' ideas here, as an educational thing. Here are a couple of mine, beyond the obvious "buy ahead, get the big container of long-keepers, buy shelf-stable" sort of thing.
* I make coffee in a single-cup porcelain filter cone. I've long used paper filters. I bought a stainless steel reusable filter. This has the unexpected advantage of draining more slowly, so it works to use less ground coffee (ground a little coarser, too, as I grind at home. Hedonist, remember? ). I was surprised by how well this works. Fewer filters to buy, less coffee.
* I like a chunk of lemon or lime fruit in my daily iced matcha, and for some other bevs. I'd been in the habit of picking up a couple of lemons/limes, fresh, pretty often. I'd use a wedge, tossed in the drink, usually 1/6 of a lime (they're smaller, usually) or 1/8 of a lemon. I discovered that half a wedge (cross cut) was enough for pleasure. Then I figured out that cut-up and frozen was pretty great, to space out shopping. Photo below is a big batch, ready to freeze, in a pyrex dish, with wax paper between layers.
Any tips to share, now that we have some practice under our belts?8 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »https://www.wlwt.com/article/couple-forced-to-wear-ankle-monitors-to-self-isolate-after-kentucky-woman-tests-positive-for-covid-19/33357364
Short story: KY couple tested before traveling to MI, woman has Coronavirus and is asymptomatic. Refused to agree not to travel, so they made them wear monitoring devices.
BTW, this is another case where everybody getting tested helps.
https://myfox8.com/news/coronavirus/ankle-monitors-used-to-isolate-couple-after-wife-tests-positive-for-covid-19-refuses-to-sign-quarantine-papers/
I read this article earlier and they seem to be wording the headline to make them out to be the villains, but reading their couple of quotes they gave, I think they were OK with the necessary quarantining, she just didn’t agree with some of the wording in the paperwork that they wanted her to sign...
Like so many other things, two sides to every story, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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I am definitely spacing out my shopping trips more, and thankfully they have settled down to a more consistent amount rather than the $300+ I was spending - I wouldn’t say panic buying, but a lot of “just in case” items since I didn’t know if or when they would have them them again. Not I am back to $160-$200 per trip depending on if it’s been a week or closer to two since last stock up. We have never lived conveniently close to grocery stores so I have always shopped for a week+ at a time, but I know for some people that in and of itself is totally new. Also making sure we have some staples readily available, like beans and rice. A lady at church picked up a 4 pack of Lysol from Costco for me - $20! Oi! I had used all but a little bit of our one can when the kids were sick just before all this started, didn’t make a point to replace it before all the shelves were cleared. Being more content being home, making do without some things that we would normally run to the store for, and not making trips to multiple places for specialty items.So, shifting gears from the deprecated hand-wringing about masks, back to something more like true prep: Anybody got new, learned strategies?
Despite being in a couple of risk groups (60+, early-stage COPD), my life still includes in-person grocery shopping, but I'm trying to make bigger but less frequent trips. I'm now somewhere in the 10 days to 3 weeks spacing. (I know there's curbside pick-up, and shopping services, but totally subjectively that makes me feel like "Wall-E: The Prequel". That's an emotional - and NEAT-related - reaction, so I'm not judging/criticizing anyone who uses those services for any or no reason - I hope you understand).
I already mentioned that freezing milk was a big help to me, in spacing out grocery shopping. Right now, my usual rate-controlling essential grocery item is Greek yogurt, with a 2-3 week supply feasible. (Yes, I know how to make yogurt at home, and have done it lots, in my past. Now I'm lazy, and Costco's is better.)
I'm a hedonist, so I have limited willingness to give up yum much, in order to reduce shopping trips, where practical. So, I'm looking for others' ideas here, as an educational thing. Here are a couple of mine, beyond the obvious "buy ahead, get the big container of long-keepers, buy shelf-stable" sort of thing.
* I make coffee in a single-cup porcelain filter cone. I've long used paper filters. I bought a stainless steel reusable filter. This has the unexpected advantage of draining more slowly, so it works to use less ground coffee (ground a little coarser, too, as I grind at home. Hedonist, remember? ). I was surprised by how well this works. Fewer filters to buy, less coffee.
* I like a chunk of lemon or lime fruit in my daily iced matcha, and for some other bevs. I'd been in the habit of picking up a couple of lemons/limes, fresh, pretty often. I'd use a wedge, tossed in the drink, usually 1/6 of a lime (they're smaller, usually) or 1/8 of a lemon. I discovered that half a wedge (cross cut) was enough for pleasure. Then I figured out that cut-up and frozen was pretty great, to space out shopping. Photo below is a big batch, ready to freeze, in a pyrex dish, with wax paper between layers.
Any tips to share, now that we have some practice under our belts?
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GaleHawkins wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »https://www.wlwt.com/article/couple-forced-to-wear-ankle-monitors-to-self-isolate-after-kentucky-woman-tests-positive-for-covid-19/33357364
Short story: KY couple tested before traveling to MI, woman has Coronavirus and is asymptomatic. Refused to agree not to travel, so they made them wear monitoring devices.
BTW, this is another case where everybody getting tested helps.
Cases like this one may just drive more people to not get tested when they expect they may test positive.
With the way the known positive cases are increasing in KY we know if we shop we are going into places with positive employees and shoppers daily.
It seems like the 15-40 age group more and more are 'assuming' they are going to test positive regardless of what they do and think letting COVID-19 spread like wild fire may be a good thing.
Self isolating it becoming harder and harder but now is about the only option for we seniors. Locally a family of 4 with two minor kids returned from FL vacation to test positive. The ankle bracelet story may be counter productive.
UPS and FedEx drivers coming to the house are very concerned but not enough to wear masks yet it seems.
https://jpost.com/health-science/people-with-blood-type-o-are-more-protected-against-covid-19-studies-show-631502
I wish this stress factor was not in the news so often.
@GaleHawkins
If that couple had not gotten a test before visiting family, they would have infected all of them. Good for them for getting the test, but bad for even thinking in visiting anybody. Just stay home (I know ii is hard), so everybody will be safer and the spread of the virus more controlled.
In my area UPS, FedExp and USPS drivers wear masks and gloves. I thought that it was a requirement for all of them. Maybe not...
Very sorry to hear about the family returning from Florida with COVID-19 infection, specially the children. But why in the world they went on vacation to such a HOT state? Did they think that they were immune, they didn't think about the children and on how many other people they probably infected in Florida or on their way back home?
What is wrong with people???? Vacations are fun and good, visiting friends and families is fun and good. I-get-it. Being in the hospital, the ICU, or hooked to a ventilator or coughing your lungs out is NOT FUN and NOT GOOD.
Stay home as much as possible, wash your hands, wear a mask when going out, keep your distance. Be smart and thoughtful.
OK, Sunday rant over..., back to my chores.
@Gisel2015 not sure the Dumbing Down of the USA is factual or not but could be a factor. Your post reminded me of what was said by a judge on America Idol that I heard today. It was from 2015 the last season planned for the show.
The judge remarked how much more talent showed up at the start in 2000 and the early years compared to the talent that tried out in 2015. Critical thinking must not be subject studied in schools of late or required in the work place. Tina Turner, Britinty Spears and many others from those eras got their start singing at smaller churches that have been replaced to a large extent by mega churches with fewer performance slots for kids.
I think the younger generation just want the 2020 Pandemic to be over with and do not grasp we will be lucky if the Pandemic is done with in 2022 we read today. Asia is getting warm count wise again so we know hard lockdowns do not stop COVID-19 in its tract long term and in the USA leadership thinking is short term at best.
Hospital bed shortage I expect is going to become a major health risk for some of us.3 -
I just learned that we still can't be tested here in South Dakota without symptoms. My hair stylist (a friend even though I'm isolating and not getting hair cuts) tried to get a test after her son got sick and was confirmed positive. Even though she's in a close-contact service job, no test.
I am flabbergasted that somebody who is a household contact of a confirmed positive case does not qualify for testing.
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spiriteagle99 wrote: »I'm getting more and more frustrated at the number of people not wearing masks. They have been mandatory in Pennsylvania for months. Thanks to rising Covid numbers, the state has recently added restrictions that are likely to bankrupt a lot of businesses (25% maximum capacity for restaurants, no bars can sell liquor unless they serve meals, etc.). Despite the rising numbers, about half the people at Lowes weren't wearing masks, and about 1/4 of the people at the 'good' grocery store. At Sheetz (a minimart/gas station) probably 3/4 had no masks. All the stores had signs out front saying they were required. Nobody was enforcing the rule. I wanted to say something, but didn't want to deal with possible violent confrontations, so kept my mouth shut. There were a lot of folks over 70 who were maskless.
Wow, I find this shocking. Where I am everyone has always worn masks in stores. I've never been to a grocery store or any store for that matter where 100% of the people weren't wearing masks since before May.4 -
paperpudding wrote: »I just learned that we still can't be tested here in South Dakota without symptoms. My hair stylist (a friend even though I'm isolating and not getting hair cuts) tried to get a test after her son got sick and was confirmed positive. Even though she's in a close-contact service job, no test.
I am flabbergasted that somebody who is a household contact of a confirmed positive case does not qualify for testing.
OMG, that is absurd. Here, anyone can get free testing done who even thinks they may have come in contact with someone positive in the past! I had no clue it was like this in other states. No wonders the numbers are skyrocketing elsewhere....
Have they tried just doing a virtual online visit? Pretty much all telehealth online visits let you get free testing if you say you've been in contact. They order the test to your local lab. I've had numerous family members in other states do this. (Not sure if they lied and said they had any symptoms) None of them were actively having symptoms.
https://www.pixel.labcorp.com/covid-19 offers at home kits. You don't pay and it goes through your insurance.3 -
Some good news I think. Australia is going to start testing to see if people on planes or ships waste water tanks have Covid so we have another layer of safety before they enter the country properly. Can't hurt that is for sure and we might be able to get the economy back on track faster especially with tourism.5
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We are trapped in our apartment by an old man who goes for dialysis three times a week. Poor soul, he can't make it up the stair well in one go and is desperate for air by the time he reaches our landing so he sits on the window pane there until he catches his breath, meanwhile breathing heavily and in gasps. This has been the situation for over a year. We tried to keep a record of when he was scheduled to be picked up by the health department but it seems irregular. Which means he's there maybe 5 days a week talking on the phone, as he seems to like to sit there if they are late picking him up, or they have rescheduled him for another day. In our Department ( County? ) almost all new and recent clusters have come from hospitals, health centers or elderly homes. Unfortunately this man doesn't like to wear the masks. The hospital gave him one during the early shut down but I havn't seen him wear one on the way back from his dialysis often. Usually he takes it off as soon as he gets in the door. The stair well in our building makes it impossible to social distance. There would only be at most two feet distance or if two people pass on the stairs, impossible without touching.
My husband has written to our landlord asking himto notify the building committee that everyone should wear masks in the public areas of the building. Masks will be obligatory beginning August 1 all over France. I hope it helps. We can't even get time to take out our garbage as it is!
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I see someone disagrees with my experience of being in an apartment building where it is impossible to social distance when trying to go out. What is it you disagree about?2
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