Coronavirus prep
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Since most of us are waiting for an efficient and safe vaccine, I thought that this well written and straight forward letter would be of help to many of you. I hope that you can open the very long link, if not you can google the information.
BREAKING NEWS: The Wall Street Journal reports that Pfizer could apply for emergency use of a COVID-19 vaccine by late November. Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla published an open letter to speak directly to the public about the company's plans.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/an_open_letter_from_pfizer_chairman_and_ceo_albert_bourla?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiT1RneVpESXhNVFk1WkRSaiIsInQiOiJjVTlOT3BkWUhKcld1ZUlPNlJGaXV0bkZqbmhoMnZxY0hicSs5dnpBTzVKQnFRTUVMRXNGZFwvaVlQK1E0ck1mTXFycHJFbmpPZUw0XC9mWXBcL2s2Vk45TVljb2NSV0xvVHVPaFcxWVFkT2U5OHhrNHNpNUowZkZER3pjMkxQSWJPQSJ91 -
I have to say I have gone to CVS every year for my flu shot recently and despite it being a different pharmacist every year have never had a bad experience. Just got mine this morning. They do always focus on getting you to relax your arm.
Just low key bullied my mom into making appointments now for her & my dad to get flu shots. They keep meaning to but putting it off. They are in their 70s and see my nephews (who are going to school) all the time like it's not a pandemic or anything grrrr. So if they aren't going to protect themselves from getting covid from them, at least do something to try to prevent the flu for pete's sake
I respectfully ask this question. Why is that some seniors are reluctant to get the flu vaccine, keep distance, avoid seeing friends and family under the present COVID situation, wear masks, and expect that the normal holiday celebrations should take place like nothing is happening in the country or the world? I really don't get it. I am not talking only about your parents @kimny72, so please don't take it personally or get offended. It is something that read in this threat and others several times in the last few months.
My husband just turned 81 and I will be 77 in a couple of months, so we are both supper seniors. I don't expect or need my children to coach me to follow CDC guidelines or to take the flu shot. We already know what's a stake and I actually remind my children to take the flu shot every year. I don't want friends in my house or family for the holidays, and I was very clear with everybody about that decision. My husband agrees and supports my decision. It will not be the same but at least we will not be trying to catch our breath or in need to call the paramedics. Hopefully!!!!
We miss our children and grandchildren because we haven't seen them in person in several months but we don't want to get sick or died (possible at our age), and we don't want to make them sick either, should we get infected. They don't live near us, so they are not part of our bubble and neither are our friends and neighbors even if they live near by.
What and why is so hard to understand and how can we fix it? I really, really don't understand the thinking of some seniors, and younger people too. Ignoring the facts and the risks will not make us better or safer.
That is only my opinion and rant is over.18 -
I have to say I have gone to CVS every year for my flu shot recently and despite it being a different pharmacist every year have never had a bad experience. Just got mine this morning. They do always focus on getting you to relax your arm.
Just low key bullied my mom into making appointments now for her & my dad to get flu shots. They keep meaning to but putting it off. They are in their 70s and see my nephews (who are going to school) all the time like it's not a pandemic or anything grrrr. So if they aren't going to protect themselves from getting covid from them, at least do something to try to prevent the flu for pete's sake
I respectfully ask this question. Why is that some seniors are reluctant to get the flu vaccine, keep distance, avoid seeing friends and family under the present COVID situation, wear masks, and expect that the normal holiday celebrations should take place like nothing is happening in the country or the world? I really don't get it. I am not talking only about your parents @kimny72, so please don't take it personally or get offended. It is something that read in this threat and others several times in the last few months.
My husband just turned 81 and I will be 77 in a couple of months, so we are both supper seniors. I don't expect or need my children to coach me to follow CDC guidelines or to take the flu shot. We already know what's a stake and I actually remind my children to take the flu shot every year. I don't want friends in my house or family for the holidays, and I was very clear with everybody about that decision. My husband agrees and supports my decision. It will not be the same but at least we will not be trying to catch our breath or in need to call the paramedics. Hopefully!!!!
We miss our children and grandchildren because we haven't seen them in person in several months but we don't want to get sick or died (possible at our age), and we don't want to make them sick either, should we get infected. They don't live near us, so they are not part of our bubble and neither are our friends and neighbors even if they live near by.
What and why is so hard to understand and how can we fix it? I really, really don't understand the thinking of some seniors, and younger people too. Ignoring the facts and the risks will not make us better or safer.
That is only my opinion and rant is over.
I'll have to dance around this a little, but my dad subscribes to the politics that have been saying this is either a hoax or at least overblown. He's told me he doesn't know how much time he has left (he's only 76 and completely self sufficient) and he's not going to waste it hiding at home. My mom kind of goes with the flow. I'll be honest, I don't really know why or how he got here. He's a smart man who has always been polite and helpful. But he doesn't know anyone whose gotten sick and I think he's just really invested in that world view. He used to always tell everyone how smart I was and now he likes to poke fun at me and convince me I've been duped. I'm with you, I don't really understand it. I know plenty of other people his age who have been super careful and only see their grandkids outside wearing masks. It's like we're all living in two different worlds!17 -
Got my flu shot today, only the second time ever. I almost never get the flu (twice in 63 years) so have avoided the shot, but this year is different. Also, with an 81 year old husband with health issues, I know it's not about me. While I can survive a bad case of flu, I'm not risking his health. He got his shot too, but at a different pharmacy. Walgreens had the senior vaccine that he needs, but didn't take my insurance. Riteaid took my insurance, but didn't have the senior vaccine. Fortunately, both visits were quick. There were no lines.
Gisel - to answer your question, IMO one of the problems is that those of us who have lived a while have heard media hyperbole too many times on issues that didn't turn out to be a big deal for most people. If your parents don't know anyone well who has gotten seriously ill or died, they may just assume that it's one more example of media exaggeration.3 -
I have to say I have gone to CVS every year for my flu shot recently and despite it being a different pharmacist every year have never had a bad experience. Just got mine this morning. They do always focus on getting you to relax your arm.
Just low key bullied my mom into making appointments now for her & my dad to get flu shots. They keep meaning to but putting it off. They are in their 70s and see my nephews (who are going to school) all the time like it's not a pandemic or anything grrrr. So if they aren't going to protect themselves from getting covid from them, at least do something to try to prevent the flu for pete's sake
I respectfully ask this question. Why is that some seniors are reluctant to get the flu vaccine, keep distance, avoid seeing friends and family under the present COVID situation, wear masks, and expect that the normal holiday celebrations should take place like nothing is happening in the country or the world? I really don't get it. I am not talking only about your parents @kimny72, so please don't take it personally or get offended. It is something that read in this threat and others several times in the last few months.
My husband just turned 81 and I will be 77 in a couple of months, so we are both supper seniors. I don't expect or need my children to coach me to follow CDC guidelines or to take the flu shot. We already know what's a stake and I actually remind my children to take the flu shot every year. I don't want friends in my house or family for the holidays, and I was very clear with everybody about that decision. My husband agrees and supports my decision. It will not be the same but at least we will not be trying to catch our breath or in need to call the paramedics. Hopefully!!!!
We miss our children and grandchildren because we haven't seen them in person in several months but we don't want to get sick or died (possible at our age), and we don't want to make them sick either, should we get infected. They don't live near us, so they are not part of our bubble and neither are our friends and neighbors even if they live near by.
What and why is so hard to understand and how can we fix it? I really, really don't understand the thinking of some seniors, and younger people too. Ignoring the facts and the risks will not make us better or safer.
That is only my opinion and rant is over.
Speaking as an oldie (who doesn't necessarily feel this way herself, but observes others in the demographic), I think it's some combination of things like:
* Being in a behavioral groove or rut that was comfortable, that they somehow earned with a long life of effort, and not wanting to leave that spot
* Feeling like the remainder of life is short and not wanting to give up some range of pleasurable current activities for an unknown/theoretical benefit
* A "Que sera, sera" philosophical attitude . . . something's gonna get me sooner or later, and it won't be a huge long time regardless
* Other people's troubles are *always* theoretical
* We've experienced a lot of Stuff, and rely on habit and intuition cognitively to a greater extent, generally . . . but this is an unprecedented situation, in our lives, so our reflexes/intuitions don't serve well.
. . . and stuff like that. I don't think you can "fix" old people (to make them think like you do - generic you, not individual you), any more than you can make young people (with their also different level of brain and cognitive status) think differently, with the "wisdom of age".
Young people will reach there, with some age on 'em, on average. Older people are somewhere in a cognitive/philosophical space you haven't been in yet, and they're not coming back to your zone, not ever.
Specific individual elders might be brought around to your way of wanting them to act, but how to do that will also need to be individualized. I got nothin'.10 -
I don’t think it’s an age thing. It’s an occurrence in all age groups, and may be, at least partly, politically induced. I personally can not understand the philosophy, and I try very hard to. People are always entitled to their opinions.
However, with over 218,000 deaths in the US, over 8,000,000 cases, in less than a year, I’m of the persuasion of trusting the overwhelming majority of the medical profession on this one. I’m a 69 year old senior.
There is a lot at stake economically, but following the experts recommended path of caution, seems to slow this down. That some people cannot see this remains unclear to me. At this point, personal freedom of choice, that potentially puts others at risk, seems selfish. I can’t believe anyone would intentionally, want to be responsible for someone else contracting this and continuing the possible spread. I honestly do want to understand.9 -
Blerg. Am staying at a hotel for my son’s state championship cross country (bc TN decided to keep it in Far East—Knoxville—instead of moving to middle of state—Nashville—where there’d be plenty of people who could drive in for the day instead of having to stay overnight). Got up early to work out both days in unventilated closet, aka hotel gym. Occupancy limit of 2. I was alone both times but each time someone came in to work out right next to me! I left. Occupancy limit is a joke here, the next machine is maybe a foot away. So I guess I’ll do some laps in the parking lot.8
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I respectfully ask this question. Why is that some seniors are reluctant to get the flu vaccine, keep distance, avoid seeing friends and family under the present COVID situation, wear masks, and expect that the normal holiday celebrations should take place like nothing is happening in the country or the world? I really don't get it. I am not talking only about your parents @kimny72, so please don't take it personally or get offended. It is something that read in this threat and others several times in the last few months.
I can only add the attitudes of my parents vs my MIL.
My parents (85 & 83) have been holed up since the beginning of March. After months of literally not obtaining anything for themselves (father is very computer literate but would not order anything online), I have forced them to be slightly more self sufficient (ie they now do curbside pickup). When I visit with them, it is outside, 6+ feet away and sometimes with the added mask.
In contrast, my MIL (82) has specifically stated "I have lived my life". She goes to restaurants, does all her own shopping. She became a widow a year ago and my FIL and great grand kids were her life's purpose. FIL is now gone. so she wants those great-grand babies around. The problem is all the grand kids (parents of great grand kids) are each bubbling in their homes and don't trust going near her due to her openness. I think that solitude drives her out of her home even more, and around and around it goes. Hubby flew her back down to Florida two days ago where she has friends who are all like minded and she will be much happier. We hope she remains safe and healthy.
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On a totally separate comment, I got a free "Stop the Spread" COVID test yesterday. With hubby out of town, daughter wants me to babysit but she and her husband's family have been in tight bubble due to age of SIL's parents. Soooooo, daughter asked me to get tested so I can baby-sit and be a less risky addition to their bubble.
Stop the Spread tests in Massachusetts are free and only free if not symptomatic. The tech carrying out the test came out to my car for me to do my paperwork and perform my test. Though outside, she wore two layered masks and a full body disposable white hooded suit. She took my temp and O2 level. Test was the comfortable lower nostril. I think it was the one demonstrated by that general recently.
Results took longer than stated, but I had them in 2 1/2 hours. Negative! (No real surprise)11 -
rheddmobile wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Someone on another thread who celebrated Canadian Thanksgiving recently mentioned he was unable to find a turkey as small as he wanted and this reminded me that I had heard a news story this AM predicting smaller turkeys could be in short supply this year - thought I'd pass this along.
Retailers needed to tell the turkey farmers in March or April that they wanted a higher proportion of smaller turkeys and this didn't happen.
At 6-8 pounds, "Oven Stuffer Roaster" type whole chickens might be a good alternative.
I love turkey and like to plan for lots of leftovers. My "Joy of Cooking" has many recipes that call for cooked chicken or turkey. If I have no choice but an overly large turkey I might plan to make soup and other recipes that freeze well. And/or I could buy it early and celebrate early.
It’s just me, my husband, and my mom this year, and everyone but me hates turkey, so we agreed we are doing a stuffed leg of lamb instead, and I am buying some smoked turkey breast from honey baked for myself.
I have a minor problem. My mom has a good friend who isn’t traveling to her family for Christmas and wants to have Christmas breakfast with us. I love her dearly and know she would walk through fire for my mom, but she has way more outside contact than we do - travels out of state, attends church, works in healthcare, is a very outgoing person - and I’m not even slightly cool with having her in my house for hours including eating a meal with no mask on. I sort of hinted at this and my mom pretended not to hear me, so I am not going to be able to say anything in a subtle fashion, and I have no idea how to handle it.
Before my sister and nephews came to stay with my mom this summer they took tests and quarantined. (I think it was just a week, but they had had negligible outside contact and wore masks when they were out.)
I'm so grateful to live in Mask-achusetts, where the state, my friends and family, and my neighbors with whom I'm friendly are all taking this seriously and we are all on the same page.
I don't consider your problem to only be minor. It could literally be a matter or life and death. Sounds like you need to sit your mom down and have the serious talk. I'm sure someone will be along with suggestions for languaging. @kimny72?11 -
Got a flu shot at Walgreen's yesterday. Had to wait about 10 min, most of which was spent filling out the paperwork, and dealing with the insurance look-up anyway. While I was waiting a 30ish woman came and asked if she could get the super-vaccine, and they explained that it was only for seniors or those with pre-existing conditions. She asked what those conditions were and then went away, saying she might come back for the regular one later that day.2
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I had mine several weeks back at the pharmacy in the grocery store. I was in the middle of grocery shopping and saw it was open with no wait. Just had to fill out a form on my phone while they got it ready. While I was getting it the pharmacist asked when I had my last booster shot. I know it's been well over a decade so had my TDAP booster in the other arm. Only the arm with the flu shot ended up being sore the next day.
Usually I get the flu shot yearly through an on site event at work, but with still nearly 100% remote work out of my office and looking like it will continue through at least the end of the year, I'm not expecting they will do it this year.7 -
I still need to get mine; I've tried my usual pharmacy and they've been out of it every time, don't know when they'll be getting any.
I may have to bite the bullet and call my PCP to see if I have better luck.
Last year, I had 4 shots, pneumonia, shingles and flu(one of those I needed a booster)and 1 of them made me feel yuck for 2-3 days but have no idea which it was.
I'd never had any reaction before except the sore arm. 3 -
With my BIL in the hospital, my sister's biggest fear was not being able to see him. It turns out they've been wonderful about letting people in AND most importantly, it's almost like a ghost hospital. You don't come into contact with anyone at all except the immediate dr. and nurse. Every precaution you could imagine, is being taken.
But our local news said there is 1 positive case involving a nurse that works at both the hospital and a visiting nurse agency. That person was asymptomatic and was found positive through their monthly checks. So that's kind of scary to think about; how many were infected meanwhile? 7 -
I still need to get mine; I've tried my usual pharmacy and they've been out of it every time, don't know when they'll be getting any. I may have to bite the bullet and call my PCP to see if I have better luck.
Last year, I had 4 shots, pneumonia, shingles and flu(one of those I needed a booster)and 1 of them made me feel yuck for 2-3 days but have no idea which it was. I'd never had any reaction before except the sore arm.
The company that owns Safeway and Jewel/Osco (I think it’s the Vons company?) lets you schedule your shot online. It’s free with insurance and they give you a coupon for 20% off groceries afterwards.
We all got ours early this year. Thank goodness for the Shot Blocker. My youngest kid still flips out about shots, but is convinced that the Shot Blocker makes it not hurt, so only tries to hide for a minute before sitting still.
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Just a personal update. We all piled up and got our flu shots at a local county health department's drive-thru flu shot clinic. Best flu shot experience ever!
Thanksgiving won't be too different for us. Living in a multigenerational household and being largely estranged from the rest of the family, we're fortunate to still have the core family under the same roof. The one difference is that my sister-in-law won't be traveling to see her mom this year for the holidays. She is a hospital RN who works with Covid patients.11 -
News blip said that 'Rona is triggering a reactivation of EBV. They can run tests. The reactivation is connected to inflammatory compounds only adding to C-19's symptoms. Sending it back into dormancy is not so easy.
In the beginning, it seemed to me like combination of rheumatic fever, SARS, EBV and MERS all rolled into one big sheetstorm.
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Diatonic12 wrote: »News blip said that 'Rona is triggering a reactivation of EBV. They can run tests. The reactivation is connected to inflammatory compounds only adding to C-19's symptoms. Sending it back into dormancy is not so easy.
Wouldn't surprise me. Messing with the T Cells and putting immunity out of balance. A lot of the "long haulers" symptoms remind me of chronic fatigue and Fibromyalgia. Many believe that EBV is a possible contributor to Fibromyalgia.
Made a B-Day dinner for our dear friends, who flew to visit their kids in Dallas a couple of weeks ago. They are in their late 70s and take every precaution they can.
Interesting story they shared (we had been waiting to see them after they self quarantined) about the flight home. Said they flew AA and while snacks aren't served on planes, people are allowed to bring their own snacks, so the anti-maskers brought snacks and sat slowly eating them the entire flight, which lasted over an hour. The woman that's a friend had to sit next to one of these morons. She said he bought popcorn and ate it one kernel at a time, very slowly, the entire flight.
This is the type of person that wouldn't likely even eat a snack normally, just doing it to be a pain in the rear for everyone on the flight and a real danger.9 -
@MikePfirrman Mike Oooo Mike. I listen to this radio program out of NYC every morning because I like to keep my finger on the pulse in NYC.
The announcer said their friend just encountered exactly what you're talking about on a flight to Florida. Everyone took their masks down on the plane or let them ride below their noses. They were eating snacks. No one said a word because tamping down chaos and/or snakes on a plane is the goal. Safety first. I don't want to fly. I don't have to because everyone is coming here.
P.S. Thanks for keeping my secrets. I got a tad carried away and blathered everything out there. 'Rona works on my head even when I'm not thinking about it. There's no time to wait. Say what you've got to say today. Stay fierce and unstoppable, Mike.
You see, you get a feel for these things and I told him everything about myself a long time ago. I just knew I could trust him and I was right. It's not bragging if it's true.
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Diatonic12 wrote: »News blip said that 'Rona is triggering a reactivation of EBV. They can run tests. The reactivation is connected to inflammatory compounds only adding to C-19's symptoms. Sending it back into dormancy is not so easy.
In the beginning, it seemed to me like combination of rheumatic fever, SARS, EBV and MERS all rolled into one big sheetstorm.
Ugh. That's the last thing we need, right?
We talked about this before, but I had mono when I was 19, and though I've been doing pretty well for awhile, I still have more fatigue than I should. Of course that could be from the Sjogren's, too, but I could definitely do without that monster waking up again! 4 -
@baconslave I remember and there's a thread for that. I was in high school and someone had it. A bunch of kids went over to their house to cheer them up when their mother wasn't home. Talk about a boatload of regret.2
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My OH just heard a news story that convinced him we are in for another bad period and wanted me to stock up on the essentials, "TP, paper towels, Fritos..."
(Unlike in March, Fritos are now third on his list
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MikePfirrman wrote: »Interesting story they shared (we had been waiting to see them after they self quarantined) about the flight home. Said they flew AA and while snacks aren't served on planes, people are allowed to bring their own snacks, so the anti-maskers brought snacks and sat slowly eating them the entire flight, which lasted over an hour. The woman that's a friend had to sit next to one of these morons. She said he bought popcorn and ate it one kernel at a time, very slowly, the entire flight.
This is the type of person that wouldn't likely even eat a snack normally, just doing it to be a pain in the rear for everyone on the flight and a real danger.
This is why we can't have nice things...
I noticed similar shenanigans on flights or in the airport. Someone had a drink in front of them and just let it sit there so they could be "drinking". I heard some airlines/attendants pushing against this and requiring the mask to remain unless you were actively eating or drinking, but the enforcement is so hit and miss.9 -
kshama2001 wrote: »My OH just heard a news story that convinced him we are in for another bad period and wanted me to stock up on the essentials, "TP, paper towels, Fritos..." This gave me a laugh. Thanks. About fritos... roof/ceiling problems necessitated lakehouse renovation last summer, and the place is a time capsule. Spent a lot of time there when kids were little. Once they hit teenage years not so much. Found a nuclear winter stash of fritos. Those were the days, when I could count on frito pie to be an emergency crowd pleaser. Thanks for the memory.
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Diatonic12 wrote: »News blip said that 'Rona is triggering a reactivation of EBV. They can run tests. The reactivation is connected to inflammatory compounds only adding to C-19's symptoms. Sending it back into dormancy is not so easy.
In the beginning, it seemed to me like combination of rheumatic fever, SARS, EBV and MERS all rolled into one big sheetstorm.
Given that 95% of all people get mono in their life with 50% happening before the age of 5, a reactivation of EBV could impact lots os people. I wonder if there is any correlation between likelihood of reactivation and severity of original infection.
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Diatonic12 wrote: »Interesting story they shared (we had been waiting to see them after they self quarantined) about the flight home. Said they flew AA and while snacks aren't served on planes, people are allowed to bring their own snacks, so the anti-maskers brought snacks and sat slowly eating them the entire flight, which lasted over an hour. The woman that's a friend had to sit next to one of these morons. She said he bought popcorn and ate it one kernel at a time, very slowly, the entire flight.
This is the type of person that wouldn't likely even eat a snack normally, just doing it to be a pain in the rear for everyone on the flight and a real danger.
I'll share my husbands observations from his flight from Boston to Florida this past Thursday.
First, yes in the waiting area, he was the one getting starred at because his made the mistake of waiting until the airport to get his morning coffee. When we talked about it this weekend, I suggested that next time he should probably drink faster and with visible purpose and intent so no one think he is the popcorn lady mentioned above.
He noted no issues on the flight. JetBlue had most middle seats empty, with the exception of family groups. He said that everyone had on masks, many with goggles without or over glasses, and some wore gloves. Snacks were distributed but he said they were inedible (he does not like cheese its). He said that he personally was fine the first couple hours and then it was the safety glasses over his prescription glasses that began to dig in an hurt, which made the last hour tough. He said boarding was still dumb from a COVID perspective - ie not boarding from the back.
His only complaint was once they landed. Everyone got up and some started whipping off their masks. I guess they don't understand their use. But immediately there was an announcement that everyone must replace their masks and remain seated as disembarking would be a row at a time starting with the front.
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MikePfirrman wrote: »Diatonic12 wrote: »News blip said that 'Rona is triggering a reactivation of EBV. They can run tests. The reactivation is connected to inflammatory compounds only adding to C-19's symptoms. Sending it back into dormancy is not so easy.
Wouldn't surprise me. Messing with the T Cells and putting immunity out of balance. A lot of the "long haulers" symptoms remind me of chronic fatigue and Fibromyalgia. Many believe that EBV is a possible contributor to Fibromyalgia.
Made a B-Day dinner for our dear friends, who flew to visit their kids in Dallas a couple of weeks ago. They are in their late 70s and take every precaution they can.
Interesting story they shared (we had been waiting to see them after they self quarantined) about the flight home. Said they flew AA and while snacks aren't served on planes, people are allowed to bring their own snacks, so the anti-maskers brought snacks and sat slowly eating them the entire flight, which lasted over an hour. The woman that's a friend had to sit next to one of these morons. She said he bought popcorn and ate it one kernel at a time, very slowly, the entire flight.
This is the type of person that wouldn't likely even eat a snack normally, just doing it to be a pain in the rear for everyone on the flight and a real danger.
They needed a snack for a 1 hr. flight?? That shouldn't even be allowed. Just wow....
Locally, they kicked a couple 9-10 yo boys off a school bus until the first of the year because 1 boy had mints and shared them with the other boy; both of them dropped their mask to put the mints in their mouths, then put them back on. The parents put up such a fuss that the school system quickly returned their right to ride the bus, which I'm so glad they did(I mean come on, they're kids!). And they did change the rules to allow for kids' normal mistakes, 1st offense a warning, 2nd offense off the bus for 3 days, 3rd offense no bus for the rest of the season.
And yet, an adult(I assume chronologically an adult though doesn't sound like they'd reached adult maturity yet)on a flight can manage to keep their mask off for an hour while munching away on popcorn. SMH
I would think the woman had every right to complain, insist on mask compliance or get her seat changed. Something! For her own protection. 3 -
Locally, they kicked a couple 9-10 yo boys off a school bus until the first of the year because 1 boy had mints and shared them with the other boy; both of them dropped their mask to put the mints in their mouths, then put them back on. The parents put up such a fuss that the school system quickly returned their right to ride the bus, which I'm so glad they did(I mean come on, they're kids!). And they did change the rules to allow for kids' normal mistakes, 1st offense a warning, 2nd offense off the bus for 3 days, 3rd offense no bus for the rest of the season.
I was a bit of a moron this morning. Went to the grocery store early and brewed myself a nice hot cup of coffee for the excursion. Drove to the store, put on my mask, grabbed my coffee and headed inside the store. Only then did it click with me that I had no way to drink my coffee. Had to shop and push my carriage while juggling my silly cup of coffee.
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from august but intersting, regarding flights
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/odds-catching-covid-19-flight-wellness-scn/index.html
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Well, I'm back in full quarantine. An estimator who came to my house last week got sick the next day, took a covid test the day after that, the test came back positive on Saturday, and the company called me today to tell me.
Fortunately I had contactless grocery delivery on the intervening weekend, and I haven't been anywhere else except for solo walks, so I don't have to worry that I could have passed it on to anyone. And it's been almost a week since the contact, so I only have one more week to go. No symptoms so far (we were only together outside, both masked, and not even facing each other because we were looking at the house while we talked about what needed to be done, so I think my odds are pretty good).
Also glad I've replenished food, paper goods, etc. as the months have worn on.24
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