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Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!10
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MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
Not quite true... some people including myself experience fall allergies and for me, my symptoms mimic covid. I have been tested weekly since I go to the allergist and have been negative.15 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
Not quite true... some people including myself experience fall allergies and for me, my symptoms mimic covid. I have been tested weekly since I go to the allergist and have been negative.
Well, we are going out of allergy season for most unless it's pets, dander or dustmights. Most plant allergens are Fall and Spring as opposed to Winter/Summer. Maybe I'm relating too much to my son and wife, who've had terrible allergies over the years.0 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
Not quite true... some people including myself experience fall allergies and for me, my symptoms mimic covid. I have been tested weekly since I go to the allergist and have been negative.
Well, we are going out of allergy season for most unless it's pets, dander or dustmights. Most plant allergens are Fall and Spring as opposed to Winter/Summer.
Well a blanket statement about there not being allergies is wrong. I do agree with people being careful and getting tested just in case.
ETA- It is still Fall. 🤷♀️14 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
While I agree with the spirit behind this statement, many “cold” germs (there’s a long list of different viruses which people refer to as colds) are harder to kill with disinfectant than coronavirus, which has a fatty envelope easily dissolved by soapy water, making those other viruses easier to transmit by fomites (touch surfaces). A lot of viruses also easily become aerosolized and remain infectious in the air for hours or days, while Covid doesn’t seem to be primarily transmitted by aerosols.
Re: winter allergies. I always get a scratchy throat in the winter from sleeping with the heat on. And I’m allergic to Christmas trees! If you live in the south and are allergic to mold, winter is a prime mold season.
But still, yeah. If you have a cold right now, assume it’s Covid and isolate accordingly until proven otherwise. Same goes for digestive upsets, which are the first symptom for many people.13 -
In Shelby county TN we have new restrictions now. Most are just suggestions, like they “strongly suggest” ending close contact school sports, which are our major driver of new infections right now. But one interesting one is that gyms remain open but masks must be worn at all times except in the shower or while swimming.
I’m having trouble keeping track of what’s what, last I heard they weren’t allowing showers and locker areas in gyms to be open at all! And pools were closed too. But they were allowing no masks while on treadmills as long as they were six feet apart. Now it’s the opposite.4 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Beautyofdreams wrote: »I live in Iowa where all the counties are over 10% positivity. We have the third highest positivity rate in the country, a republican controlled government and our "mask mandate" is essentially if you can't social distance inside for 15 minutes then you should wear a mask unless you are in church where they cannot be mandated. I am isolating as best as I can but family member that I live with is not.
I lived in Iowa my entire life until 2019 and still know a lot of people there. To say it is really bad there right now is an understatement.
However, I will point out that there is 1 county at less than 10% positivity for the most recent 7 days of data reported (Wed Jan 22 2020 - Thu Nov 19 2020). Lucas County is at 7.87% positivity for the 7 day average.
Dang... and here they are freaking out in NY over a 2-3% positivity and closing down.
There are 30 states that have a positivity rate of over 10% and no national policy. Some governors have implemented stricter policies. Here, in Minnesota, they went into effect at midnight. One of the edicts is only persons residing in a residence may celebrate Thanksgiving together. Enforcing this is questionable. We will see what happens in a couple of weeks. Sometimes it seems hopeless.10 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
Not quite true... some people including myself experience fall allergies and for me, my symptoms mimic covid. I have been tested weekly since I go to the allergist and have been negative.
Well, we are going out of allergy season for most unless it's pets, dander or dustmights. Most plant allergens are Fall and Spring as opposed to Winter/Summer.
Well a blanket statement about there not being allergies is wrong. I do agree with people being careful and getting tested just in case.
ETA- It is still Fall. 🤷♀️
Yes, and it's also been unseasonably warm in much of the US. Certainly in Chicago, and I believe (as usual) that weather pattern has been heading from the midwest east. I'm not really someone who has significant allergies, so not sure how that affects anything, but maybe worth noting. I was able to pick some cauliflower from my garden last weekend and still am getting chard and cabbage and carrots (although I think I picked the last of the carrots). Lots of leaves on the ground, no snow that has stuck yet (and the last snow that fell was back before Thanksgiving and before several days of 70s and then 60s weather).5 -
Beautyofdreams wrote: »I live in a county with over 27% positivity rate. Last Saturday I had lunch with my boyfriend and he thought that he had a cold. He didn't get tested for Covid until Monday and received results Thursday. He is positive and is having difficulty breathing. I called my transplant coordinator. I will be tested next Monday at one of the state test facilities. My local clinic will not test me unless I have symptoms. Have been told by a family member that they won't let me ruin their Thanksgiving and we are having people over here. Hopefully, I don't have Covid and am not just asymptomatic.Chef_Barbell wrote: »Wait... what? You're having people over for Thanksgiving with a positive covid close contact? :noway:
Sounds like she lives with family who have not been paying attention to good news sources about the pandemic.
I see from her profile that the reference to transplant coordinator is because she's had a pancreas/kidney transplant, which makes her relative(s) callousness all that more reprehensible.Beautyofdreams wrote: »I live in Iowa where all the counties are over 10% positivity. We have the third highest positivity rate in the country, a republican controlled government and our "mask mandate" is essentially if you can't social distance inside for 15 minutes then you should wear a mask unless you are in church where they cannot be mandated. I am isolating as best as I can but family member that I live with is not.12 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
I disagree with you Mike. I live in the So. California desert and everything is blooming now, and so are the allergies.
The birds, the bees and the butterflies are having a feast in my garden, and the winds bring a lot of pollen trapped in the sand. I am using eye drops all the time and my nose and eyes are always running. Fluonase to the rescue at night...
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MikePfirrman wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
Not quite true... some people including myself experience fall allergies and for me, my symptoms mimic covid. I have been tested weekly since I go to the allergist and have been negative.
Well, we are going out of allergy season for most unless it's pets, dander or dustmights. Most plant allergens are Fall and Spring as opposed to Winter/Summer. Maybe I'm relating too much to my son and wife, who've had terrible allergies over the years.
I am allergic to Spring and Fall and trust me, the Fall allergies are still happening. I start clearing up about the first snowfall, so I've got at least another month to deal with allergies. I have to be at the hospital a lot right now and am dosing up on flonase and cough drops just to not scare people with my sniffles and cough. I know it's not covid since my husband and I are tested every couple of weeks.10 -
I'm glad I live where there is no Covid because I have allergy issues 24/7 365 days a year pretty badly so everyone would think I have Covid with all my coughing and sneezing
Over it really. 12 -
There’s a lot of different things that trigger allergy symptoms, no matter where you live. Pollen, animals, foods, dust, etc. Here, Minnesota, we have had frost most mornings, for well over a month. Deciduous trees are bare, vegetation is dormant, so pollen allergies are pretty much over until spring. Both my husband and daughter have ragweed allergies. We are glad that’s over. It’s stressful wondering whether it’s allergies or Covid-19. My sympathy to all allergy sufferers❤️11
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Not directed at anyone in particular, general comment.
If you have hayfever, allergies, chronic sinusitis etc and are sneezing, runny nose etc as per your norm, no problem. (unless close contact but that goes for anyone anyway, regardless of symptoms)
As soon as anything deviates from your norm, get tested just in case.
The stance in Australia is get tested if you have symptoms, no matter how mild.
I am assuming that means if you have symptoms outside your norm.
I have mild hayfever and it is Spring here - I am not getting tested every time I sneeze like I do in Spring every year, that would be silly9 -
paperpudding wrote: »Not directed at anyone in particular, general comment.
If you have hayfever, allergies, chronic sinusitis etc and are sneezing, runny nose etc as per your norm, no problem. (unless close contact but that goes for anyone anyway, regardless of symptoms)
As soon as anything deviates from your norm, get tested just in case.
The stance in Australia is get tested if you have symptoms, no matter how mild.
I am assuming that means if you have symptoms outside your norm.
I have mild hayfever and it is Spring here - I am not getting tested every time I sneeze like I do in Spring every year, that would be silly
Totally agree. Stay safe.6 -
paperpudding wrote: »Not directed at anyone in particular, general comment.
If you have hayfever, allergies, chronic sinusitis etc and are sneezing, runny nose etc as per your norm, no problem. (unless close contact but that goes for anyone anyway, regardless of symptoms)
As soon as anything deviates from your norm, get tested just in case.
The stance in Australia is get tested if you have symptoms, no matter how mild.
I am assuming that means if you have symptoms outside your norm.
I have mild hayfever and it is Spring here - I am not getting tested every time I sneeze like I do in Spring every year, that would be silly
Yeah, that's how I understand the policy where I live too (adding in some common sense, like symptoms out of the norm, as you said). Plus, of course, being tested if exposed to someone with it.4 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
Not quite true... some people including myself experience fall allergies and for me, my symptoms mimic covid. I have been tested weekly since I go to the allergist and have been negative.
Well, we are going out of allergy season for most unless it's pets, dander or dustmights. Most plant allergens are Fall and Spring as opposed to Winter/Summer. Maybe I'm relating too much to my son and wife, who've had terrible allergies over the years.
I am allergic to Spring and Fall and trust me, the Fall allergies are still happening. I start clearing up about the first snowfall, so I've got at least another month to deal with allergies. I have to be at the hospital a lot right now and am dosing up on flonase and cough drops just to not scare people with my sniffles and cough. I know it's not covid since my husband and I are tested every couple of weeks.
Our trees like to take for-ev-er to drop their leaves—it started in Sept and will *maybe* be (mostly) done in January. Things are still tenaciously clinging to life and off gassing some terrible noxious allergens and it never really stops bc our winter is a joke. It’s just rainy and cold but generally without enough real freezes to kill all the non evergreen plants/bugs. Seriously. Mosquitos at Christmas 🙄
So walking and biking through the trails here is horrible now—my eyes are watering and my sinuses about to explode. I had a blessed week-ish after ragweed mostly died off before this. Leaf mold is a thing. I used to laugh that My little brother was allergic to leaf mold. No more. Since moving to the mid South each season has brought some fresh demon plant to wreak havoc on my poor sinuses. It’s part of why my youngest isn’t at school this year—they made me take him to the dr for green snot last winter. The kid had snot every. Single. Day. From Nov-March, with no other symptoms. Dr unsurprisingly diagnosed allergies. So knowing how hyper vigilant people were likely to be this year, we decided it wasn’t worth the hassle for preschool. We’re just all in eye watering snot filled semi lockdown together, with a big box of tissues and industrial jugs of Zyrtec 😆10 -
I am in Iowa, too, & the statistics I am seeing is 94 out of 99 counties have a positivity rate of 15% or higher. Of those 94, 70 Are at 20% or higher, and 2 are greater than 30%. Not good here!12
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missysippy930 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Beautyofdreams wrote: »I live in Iowa where all the counties are over 10% positivity. We have the third highest positivity rate in the country, a republican controlled government and our "mask mandate" is essentially if you can't social distance inside for 15 minutes then you should wear a mask unless you are in church where they cannot be mandated. I am isolating as best as I can but family member that I live with is not.
I lived in Iowa my entire life until 2019 and still know a lot of people there. To say it is really bad there right now is an understatement.
However, I will point out that there is 1 county at less than 10% positivity for the most recent 7 days of data reported (Wed Jan 22 2020 - Thu Nov 19 2020). Lucas County is at 7.87% positivity for the 7 day average.
Dang... and here they are freaking out in NY over a 2-3% positivity and closing down.
There are 30 states that have a positivity rate of over 10% and no national policy. Some governors have implemented stricter policies. Here, in Minnesota, they went into effect at midnight. One of the edicts is only persons residing in a residence may celebrate Thanksgiving together. Enforcing this is questionable. We will see what happens in a couple of weeks. Sometimes it seems hopeless.
As another Minnesota resident, I don't see any indication that they're planning to enforce this at all. I think it's just meant to help guide behavior.4 -
janejellyroll wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Beautyofdreams wrote: »I live in Iowa where all the counties are over 10% positivity. We have the third highest positivity rate in the country, a republican controlled government and our "mask mandate" is essentially if you can't social distance inside for 15 minutes then you should wear a mask unless you are in church where they cannot be mandated. I am isolating as best as I can but family member that I live with is not.
I lived in Iowa my entire life until 2019 and still know a lot of people there. To say it is really bad there right now is an understatement.
However, I will point out that there is 1 county at less than 10% positivity for the most recent 7 days of data reported (Wed Jan 22 2020 - Thu Nov 19 2020). Lucas County is at 7.87% positivity for the 7 day average.
Dang... and here they are freaking out in NY over a 2-3% positivity and closing down.
There are 30 states that have a positivity rate of over 10% and no national policy. Some governors have implemented stricter policies. Here, in Minnesota, they went into effect at midnight. One of the edicts is only persons residing in a residence may celebrate Thanksgiving together. Enforcing this is questionable. We will see what happens in a couple of weeks. Sometimes it seems hopeless.
As another Minnesota resident, I don't see any indication that they're planning to enforce this at all. I think it's just meant to help guide behavior.
Chicago similarly has a strongly urged set of rules (basically a new stay at home that isn't currently mandatory) that includes celebrating Thanksgiving only with household members. It's a request, but not enforceable. As my sister and I both live alone and have been safe, we are getting together for a tiny gathering. At one point we were going to have a few others who had been safe, but now it's just the 2 of us. (Her SO was exposed and tested negative recently, but they are currently not seeing each other in person since he's working with covid patients and doesn't want to risk exposing her after the last scare.)7 -
janejellyroll wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Beautyofdreams wrote: »I live in Iowa where all the counties are over 10% positivity. We have the third highest positivity rate in the country, a republican controlled government and our "mask mandate" is essentially if you can't social distance inside for 15 minutes then you should wear a mask unless you are in church where they cannot be mandated. I am isolating as best as I can but family member that I live with is not.
I lived in Iowa my entire life until 2019 and still know a lot of people there. To say it is really bad there right now is an understatement.
However, I will point out that there is 1 county at less than 10% positivity for the most recent 7 days of data reported (Wed Jan 22 2020 - Thu Nov 19 2020). Lucas County is at 7.87% positivity for the 7 day average.
Dang... and here they are freaking out in NY over a 2-3% positivity and closing down.
There are 30 states that have a positivity rate of over 10% and no national policy. Some governors have implemented stricter policies. Here, in Minnesota, they went into effect at midnight. One of the edicts is only persons residing in a residence may celebrate Thanksgiving together. Enforcing this is questionable. We will see what happens in a couple of weeks. Sometimes it seems hopeless.
As another Minnesota resident, I don't see any indication that they're planning to enforce this at all. I think it's just meant to help guide behavior.
Agreed. My husband and I were just talking about it, and think the people that have been doing the right thing all along, will continue. The ones that haven’t been following guidelines will continue not following. The hospitals and health care workers will be the ones affected by irresponsible behavior. It’s very hard to understand why some can’t see the gravity of the situation.13 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
I have no idea how accurate your statement is but, to both my dh and me, this has felt like most colds for us(thank goodness!). If numbers weren't popping here and if there hadn't been positive cases where dh works, I would've called anybody crazy for making us get tested. Well, not really, but YKWIM. We're definitely 2 of the lucky ones. Seeing pictures in the news of trucks packed with bodies makes it all too real of what it is in some places. 12 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
I have no idea how accurate your statement is but, to both my dh and me, this has felt like most colds for us(thank goodness!). If numbers weren't popping here and if there hadn't been positive cases where dh works, I would've called anybody crazy for making us get tested. Well, not really, but YKWIM. We're definitely 2 of the lucky ones. Seeing pictures in the news of trucks packed with bodies makes it all too real of what it is in some places.
A nurse I know that works in a Covid unit recently mentioned that she can always tell when a new Covid patient comes in whether they will survive or not. She's guessed wrong only once. When asked how she can tell, her response was:It is by no means an exact science it’s typically a combination of past medical history, current health, ability and effort put forth to care for ones self, gender/age/ethnicity, prior living arrangements, weight and then instinct.4 -
So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...2
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rheddmobile wrote: »So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...
Someone should make indoor litter boxes for dogs... like a big un-covered litter box with a fire hydrant in the corner or something.
ETA: I checked Amazon and apparently was not even close to the first person to come up with this idea. There are lots of options.2 -
rheddmobile wrote: »So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...
Great question. I have cats, but weird ones. They get walked on leashes like a dog....2 -
rheddmobile wrote: »So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...
Good question.. 🤔Im not South Australian which is where that rule was supposed to be enforced for 6 days( scrapped now) Im in New South Wales.. but Im pretty sure if that rule was in place and you lived in an apartment block then you'd take your dog to the nearest patch of grass,( most blocks have grass somewhere) let it do its business, pick it up , put it in the bin and then back inside. It was only meant for the 6 day hard lockdown. Moot point now as the hard lockdown was stopped.
I mean that's my best bet of what they assumed people would do.. 🤷♀️ Im guessing though..6 -
rheddmobile wrote: »So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...
it wasnt Australians - it was only South Australians.
For 6 days - which got reduced to 3.
If you lived in an apartment with a dog, (which isn't going to be many people in South Australia) I guess you took it out to the backyard or lawn area of your building or on to the footpath, (sidewalk to americans) let it do its poo and then pick it up, bin it (as you should do all the time anyway) and go back inside.
Like slimjo said.
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USA Today has a story reporting the timeline and results of the virus from 1918. It’s interesting how similar our situation is today. I can’t copy the link, but the reporter’s name is Grace Hauck, and the article was 11/22/20. Check it out.5
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missysippy930 wrote: »USA Today has a story reporting the timeline and results of the virus from 1918. It’s interesting how similar our situation is today. I can’t copy the link, but the reporter’s name is Grace Hauck, and the article was 11/22/20. Check it out.
Thanks for that - interesting read. Here's the link for anyone interested: https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/11/21/covid-and-thanksgiving-how-we-celebrated-during-1918-flu-pandemic/6264231002/
While looking for that one, I also found this one which is also interesting and sad: https://www.whio.com/news/trending/1918-flu-pandemic-letters-shed-light-how-similar-coronavirus-pandemic-is-past-outbreak/S4MMHFYC6RAP7AJ7KNK5TWAOVQ/3
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