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  • MikePfirrman
    MikePfirrman Posts: 3,307 Member
    edited January 2021
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    And if you have a window, keep the sunshine beaming in to your office. Though glass filters out most UV rays, some still gets through.

    I do have good sunlight, at least when we have sun.

    (I initially misread this as you suggesting opening the window, and not only does it not open, but I was thinking "someone forgets there are climates where January and open windows don't mesh!) ;-)

    My masks don't have vents, it's the shape of it that feels weird.

    Yeah, my wife calls them "cone masks". The shape is odd and a bit uncomfortable.

    I haven't been in AZ that long to forget the cold! I'm actually freezing today and it's only like 42.

    And further, I was wrong anyway -- I knew that window glass allows some UV light to come in, but it seems they block nearly 100% of the UV-C light -- I was curious about that so looked it up. UV-C is the only type of UV that kills germs in the air.

    https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q12082.html#:~:text=UV-C is produced only,UV-C light is blocked.
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    edited January 2021
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    CDC recommends schools reopen for in person learning.

    https://www.npr.org/2021/01/26/960885936/cdc-makes-case-for-school-reopening

    Sample of 1 but my wife is in education and had to stay home for 2 weeks last fall due to close contact with a kid and his mom that tested positive.

    Sample of 1...

    Sad but the article makes a lot of good points. 🤷‍♀️
  • missysippy930
    missysippy930 Posts: 2,577 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    And if you have a window, keep the sunshine beaming in to your office. Though glass filters out most UV rays, some still gets through.

    I do have good sunlight, at least when we have sun.

    (I initially misread this as you suggesting opening the window, and not only does it not open, but I was thinking "someone forgets there are climates where January and open windows don't mesh!) ;-)

    My masks don't have vents, it's the shape of it that feels weird.

    Yeah, my wife calls them "cone masks". The shape is odd and a bit uncomfortable.

    I haven't been in AZ that long to forget the cold! I'm actually freezing today and it's only like 42.

    And further, I was wrong anyway -- I knew that window glass allows some UV light to come in, but it seems they block nearly 100% of the UV-C light -- I was curious about that so looked it up. UV-C is the only type of UV that kills germs in the air.

    https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q12082.html#:~:text=UV-C is produced only,UV-C light is blocked.

    Any day that gets above 32 F here (Minnesota) this time of year we’ll gladly take. It was double digits below zero in northern part of the state this morning.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    And if you have a window, keep the sunshine beaming in to your office. Though glass filters out most UV rays, some still gets through.

    I do have good sunlight, at least when we have sun.

    (I initially misread this as you suggesting opening the window, and not only does it not open, but I was thinking "someone forgets there are climates where January and open windows don't mesh!) ;-)

    My masks don't have vents, it's the shape of it that feels weird.

    Yeah, my wife calls them "cone masks". The shape is odd and a bit uncomfortable.

    I haven't been in AZ that long to forget the cold! I'm actually freezing today and it's only like 42.

    And further, I was wrong anyway -- I knew that window glass allows some UV light to come in, but it seems they block nearly 100% of the UV-C light -- I was curious about that so looked it up. UV-C is the only type of UV that kills germs in the air.

    https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q12082.html#:~:text=UV-C is produced only,UV-C light is blocked.

    Any day that gets above 32 F here (Minnesota) this time of year we’ll gladly take. It was double digits below zero in northern part of the state this morning.

    Ah....memories....
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    But I did have to shovel my front sidewalk and front porch stairs 2 times on Tuesday, so exercise! (My lot/sidewalk is tiny compared to what many have to deal with, I know.)
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,053 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Antiopelle wrote: »
    In Belgium any type of cloth mask is now prohibited in most hospitals and the disposable blue masks are generally encouraged. Apparently hospital staff encountered too many patients and visitors wearing cloth masks that were clearly not hygienic anymore, becoming a source of bacterial infection in themselves.
    Cloth masks should be washed every day with soap at a temp of at least 60°c. The reasoning behind is that this is a hurdle most people do not take and disposables will be replaced more often as they are more convenient. Normally the max time to use the disposables is 4 hours, but I do believe that many people wear them more than that, usually until one of the elastics break.

    Thanks for this! For those of us who use F, 60°C = 140°F.

    (snip useful infographic and some good comments, for reply length)

    I'm almost never in public though - just at supermarkets, where there is 100% face covering wearing compliance (but a lesser amount of wearing CORRECTLY), and I go at times of day where I'm not within 6 feet of people for more than a few seconds.

    This is probably weird, but as I mentioned I've been doing bandit-style cotton scarf over disposable blue mask. I've actually *boiled* the cotton scarves on the stove - they hold up well.

    (Maybe this sounds freaky compulsive, so I'll add for context that my hot water heater only goes to 120F, and my clothes-dryer died awhile back mid-pandemic and I don't want deliverers/installers in my house until I can at least air the place out (it's 24F, -4C here at 3:47PM today), so I'm air drying stuff I wash for the time being.) Boiling elastic (and maybe synthetic fiber fabric) would be a bad idea, but it can work on all-cotton.

    I KNEW I'd be getting the temp of my water at some point and you've just confirmed it ;)
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 33,644 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Antiopelle wrote: »
    In Belgium any type of cloth mask is now prohibited in most hospitals and the disposable blue masks are generally encouraged. Apparently hospital staff encountered too many patients and visitors wearing cloth masks that were clearly not hygienic anymore, becoming a source of bacterial infection in themselves.
    Cloth masks should be washed every day with soap at a temp of at least 60°c. The reasoning behind is that this is a hurdle most people do not take and disposables will be replaced more often as they are more convenient. Normally the max time to use the disposables is 4 hours, but I do believe that many people wear them more than that, usually until one of the elastics break.

    Thanks for this! For those of us who use F, 60°C = 140°F.

    (snip useful infographic and some good comments, for reply length)

    I'm almost never in public though - just at supermarkets, where there is 100% face covering wearing compliance (but a lesser amount of wearing CORRECTLY), and I go at times of day where I'm not within 6 feet of people for more than a few seconds.

    This is probably weird, but as I mentioned I've been doing bandit-style cotton scarf over disposable blue mask. I've actually *boiled* the cotton scarves on the stove - they hold up well.

    (Maybe this sounds freaky compulsive, so I'll add for context that my hot water heater only goes to 120F, and my clothes-dryer died awhile back mid-pandemic and I don't want deliverers/installers in my house until I can at least air the place out (it's 24F, -4C here at 3:47PM today), so I'm air drying stuff I wash for the time being.) Boiling elastic (and maybe synthetic fiber fabric) would be a bad idea, but it can work on all-cotton.

    I KNEW I'd be getting the temp of my water at some point and you've just confirmed it ;)

    Huh? In my case, it's on a digital readout right on the front of the (tankless) heater. IMU, they set it at 120F for people without a dishwasher, higher (with a different electronic controller, I think) if there is a dishwasher.
  • SuzySunshine99
    SuzySunshine99 Posts: 2,989 Member
    Gisel2015 wrote: »
    With respect to N95 masks, here is what I read today:

    "...the CDC isn't currently recommending N95 masks for the general public, partly due to a shortage of the masks for health care workers, and also due to concerns that people will tolerate the masks, which can hinder breathing.
    "I worry that if we suggest or require that people wear N95's they won't wear them all the time," Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the new head of the CDC told CNN's Anderson Cooper and Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta in a town hall Wednesday.
    "They're very hard to breathe in when you wear them properly," Walensky said. "They're very hard to tolerate when you wear them for long periods of time."


    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/28/health/double-masks-covid-19-wellness-trnd/index.html]\

    I had a blood drawn today so I wore a surgical mask and a cloth one on top of it. I had difficult breathing properly and I developed a HA for few hours, so I am glad that the process was short and fast, and that I don't go inside crowded places very often. I do have a N95 mask but I found them very uncomfortable to wear and painful on my face.

    I think there's very few people outside of the medical field who have access to N95 masks.
    The discussion here has been about the KN95 masks, which are not the same, and more readily available to the general public.
  • SModa61
    SModa61 Posts: 3,028 Member
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    My large US company announced we are extending WFH for those that can from April 1 to July 6 for the earliest return to office date.

    My SIL had been given a July 1st date many months ago. It might have even been last summer. I should ask DD and DS if their companies had stated any dates recently.
  • MikePfirrman
    MikePfirrman Posts: 3,307 Member
    What does everyone think about the J&J results? If you haven't heard, it's not nearly as effective as Moderna or the Pfizer (both 95%). It's like 67% effective, but keeps 85% from being severe and out of the hospital.

    My two cents. I'd take it and wait on Moderna or Pfizer being more widely available. I think they also said the the J&J is only like 50% effective against the S Africa strain.
  • missysippy930
    missysippy930 Posts: 2,577 Member
    What does everyone think about the J&J results? If you haven't heard, it's not nearly as effective as Moderna or the Pfizer (both 95%). It's like 67% effective, but keeps 85% from being severe and out of the hospital.

    My two cents. I'd take it and wait on Moderna or Pfizer being more widely available. I think they also said the the J&J is only like 50% effective against the S Africa strain.

    I agree with you, as long as side effects are minimal. 67% is way better than 0%, but, moot point unless approved.
  • L1zardQueen
    L1zardQueen Posts: 8,753 Member
    Athijade wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    My large US company announced we are extending WFH for those that can from April 1 to July 6 for the earliest return to office date.

    We have been working from home since last March and have had no updates on our status. While there is no way I will be going back in office 5 days a week (they redid our work space as 2 floors instead of 3 so there are less spots for employees), it is possible at some point it will be a couple days of the week... or not at all. They supposedly have a policy that they came up with, but have yet to share it even though word of that came out like 6 months ago.

    I am worried about the double mask remarks. As many of you know from the start of this, I had issues with masks early on due to anxiety and PTSD. I was able to finally get myself wearing them without panic attacks and working through the issues that caused said panic attacks. There is no way in heck I think I can handle two masks. So now I am all stressed about doing my grocery shopping (which is the only time I really go anywhere except for medical stuff).

    Just a thought, can you do curbside pick up?