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Theoldguy1 wrote: »My large US company announced we are extending WFH for those that can from April 1 to July 6 for the earliest return to office date.
We have been working from home since last March and have had no updates on our status. While there is no way I will be going back in office 5 days a week (they redid our work space as 2 floors instead of 3 so there are less spots for employees), it is possible at some point it will be a couple days of the week... or not at all. They supposedly have a policy that they came up with, but have yet to share it even though word of that came out like 6 months ago.
I am worried about the double mask remarks. As many of you know from the start of this, I had issues with masks early on due to anxiety and PTSD. I was able to finally get myself wearing them without panic attacks and working through the issues that caused said panic attacks. There is no way in heck I think I can handle two masks. So now I am all stressed about doing my grocery shopping (which is the only time I really go anywhere except for medical stuff).
I saw these and thought of you. These look super comfy and have a disposable insert. Made by Honeywell. I might get one of these. You can tell the ear loops are longer and wouldn't tug on your ears as bad as the KN-95s I currently have.
https://www.honeywellstore.com/store/products/honeywell-dual-layer-face-cover-dark-gray-rws-50111.htm3 -
I honestly haven’t paid much attention to it, but there are ways of testing how widespread the virus is by sampling the sewer system. I think that and this new test might be related.
My city just started doing the sewer testing because the virus does appear in fecal material. I guess they do daily tests anyway so this just involves a matter of collecting one additional sample. Apparently Ottawa has been doing Covid sewer testing for a while to monitor prevalence.
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/covid-19-levels-in-ottawa-wastewater-rising-but-still-below-october-peak-1.52527154 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »
Just a thought, can you do curbside pick up?
Early on I gave grocery delivery a chance and did not have good experiences. Out of 3 tries, there was something wrong with all 3. I have a soy allergy and other food restrictions due to medical issues. I spend a lot of time checking ingredient lists. So I am nervous about trying it again, but I might depending on how things happen.8 -
If you maintain physical distancing, don't touch your face, and don't spend an extended period of time in the store, any mask you can manage to wear will be a useful part of your risk reduction. Like we say in diet related threads, don't let perfection be the enemy of progress
I do all of these things for sure. Actually said something to someone today who was just up my behind in the produce department. It's not like I was camping out in front of stuff either. I was grabbing what I needed, but they had to move in right behind me. So frustrating.
And I want to thank everyone for their suggestions and kind words. I may try a surgical mask with my other masks and see how I do. I can't afford the KN95 masks at the moment. Luckily the masks I do use are double thickness and fit tight against my face, either due to the material or due to a wire that allows me to adjust it. Will just have to see what happens.
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »CDC recommends schools reopen for in person learning.
https://www.npr.org/2021/01/26/960885936/cdc-makes-case-for-school-reopening
Thought about this a bit more and I'm not a conspiracy thinking person but the idea that in person schools don't spread Covid may be a bit of wishful thinking than all out science. Talk to anyone in education, they will tell you they had colds, etc all during the school year for the first several years from being around all the little germ carriers until they built immunity. Don't see why Covid would work any differently.
Of course now you have the kids wearing masks, etc. Any pictures you see the kids are separated properly wearing masks, wonder if that's the normal situation? In normal times educators have to tell kids to keep their fingers out of their noses, wash their hands etc. And these are normally functioning kids, never mind the behaviorally challenged and/or special needs kids.
Agree.
The caveat is here:In another study, of 17 schools in rural Wisconsin, mask-wearing helped keep the COVID-19 incidence lower in schools than in the larger community.
While the researchers call the findings "reassuring," they make clear that much of the success schools have had in preventing transmission is the result of their embrace of safety precautions.
"All recommended mitigation measures in schools must continue: requiring universal face mask use, increasing physical distance ... increasing room air ventilation, and expanding screening testing to rapidly identify and isolate asymptomatic infected individuals," the report says.
The CDC authors do single out a few school-based functions that can drive infections, namely indoor sports practices and events. They cite a pair of high school wrestling tournaments in Florida where 38 of the 54 participants who were tested, tested positive, some of whom brought the virus back to their families and friend circles. The report also serves as a reminder that schools do not operate in a vacuum. To keep COVID-19 out of classrooms, communities should be prepared to fight it elsewhere, including by restricting indoor dining.
That's a lot of restrictions and "if". Their recommendation stands "if" all these conditions are met. I know for fact that "all recommended mitigation measures" are not being enacted in all schools where I live. We need to get to a place where they are. And indoor dining is not restricted and won't be. This is TN. We have been having high school sports. And Gov Lee just rescinded the executive order to limit sports attendance. I imagine the TSSAA will follow suit shortly.
Everything looks fabulous and perfect on paper in a report.
My best friend is a special ed teacher. 18-20 students are crammed in one classroom. There is not proper distancing. A few students need personal help that can't be done 6 feet away. All the kids have to constantly be kept on about the masks. This is in middle school. I don't even want to think about what elementary kids are like in any class.
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »CDC recommends schools reopen for in person learning.
https://www.npr.org/2021/01/26/960885936/cdc-makes-case-for-school-reopening
Thought about this a bit more and I'm not a conspiracy thinking person but the idea that in person schools don't spread Covid may be a bit of wishful thinking than all out science. Talk to anyone in education, they will tell you they had colds, etc all during the school year for the first several years from being around all the little germ carriers until they built immunity. Don't see why Covid would work any differently.
Of course now you have the kids wearing masks, etc. Any pictures you see the kids are separated properly wearing masks, wonder if that's the normal situation? In normal times educators have to tell kids to keep their fingers out of their noses, wash their hands etc. And these are normally functioning kids, never mind the behaviorally challenged and/or special needs kids.
https://news.yahoo.com/clinical-trials-raise-fears-coronavirus-040855671.html
Too bad this virus is watching our moves and is out playing us in this game of Cat and Mouse it appears. Yes a few of us will die but nothing like when white men showed up in North and South America 500 years ago.1 -
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »CDC recommends schools reopen for in person learning.
https://www.npr.org/2021/01/26/960885936/cdc-makes-case-for-school-reopening
Thought about this a bit more and I'm not a conspiracy thinking person but the idea that in person schools don't spread Covid may be a bit of wishful thinking than all out science. Talk to anyone in education, they will tell you they had colds, etc all during the school year for the first several years from being around all the little germ carriers until they built immunity. Don't see why Covid would work any differently.
Of course now you have the kids wearing masks, etc. Any pictures you see the kids are separated properly wearing masks, wonder if that's the normal situation? In normal times educators have to tell kids to keep their fingers out of their noses, wash their hands etc. And these are normally functioning kids, never mind the behaviorally challenged and/or special needs kids.
I have friends with kids (including little kids) in in-person school (Catholic schools here are open), and they say they've adjusted to mask-wearing all day really well and it doesn't seem to bother them. Social distancing seems harder to achieve with kids, of course. My friends are all happy with how things are going.
Here's a piece (with criticism) about the argument that the generally positive results in the Archdiocese schools is a good argument against continuing to keep CPS closed for in person learning: https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/01/07/in-backing-cps-reopening-plan-citys-health-department-studied-covid-in-catholic-schools-which-presents-problems-critics-say/
Here's the study referenced in the piece:
https://journals.lww.com/jphmp/Abstract/9000/Data_Driven_Reopening_of_Urban_Public_Education.99206.aspx3 -
https://neurosciencenews.com/melatonin-lungs-covid-17632/
This is good news as we learn more Covid-19 facts.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »NM Governor just announced yesterday that public schools can resume in person learning on a hybrid schedule starting Feb 8. It will be up to individual districts as to whether or not they will. I'm in the largest school district in the state, so it'll be interesting to see what they do...hoping the kids will be able to go back though...a couple days out of the week is better than nothing.
Not necessarily for the teachers and their families. Even if teachers are vaccinated (most aren’t right now) the best information says they can still take it home to their families. As can the kids.
Some districts (Oklahoma) say the kids don’t have to wear masks indoors if they’re sitting six feet apart.
I am so scared for my teacher friends and their families.
I have a couple of friends who are teachers and I know quite a few teachers at my kids' school, and every single one of them is and has been ready to get back. The one's that don't want to can opt out. Masks are required in NM indoors and will also be required in school. They are also required outdoors in crowded public areas and any outdoor land/property maintained by a government entity.
Group A will be Monday and Tuesday...Wednesday is a deep clean day...group B on Thursday and Friday. Smaller classes and more separation. All NM private schools have been doing this since the fall and it hasn't been an issue.
From the sounds of things, most districts won't go back until the very end of February as they need time to ramp up. It is thought that by then, most teachers who want to be vaccinated will be. NM is 2nd in the nation in regards to per capita vaccine distribution and getting needles into arms. We've vaccinated roughly 10% of our population currently5 -
Just found out my brother and niece both have caught it. Wish I could say I wasn't worried about him. He's 6 years older than I am and not been in great health. They were very careful when out, but they continued to see their adult kids throughout. My guess would be from one of his kids letting their guard down.18
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Y'all made me curious
I pulled these effectiveness figures from the CDC for reference:
Flu vaccine is typically 40-60% effective
HPV vaccine 86% in teens, 71% in adults
MMR is 93% for measles, 78% for mumps, and 97% for rubella
DTAP is 80-90% initially then drops slowly over time, is around 70% after four years
Chicken pox vaccine is 82%
Shingrix is 90% and stays above 85% for at least 4 years
Pneumonia vaccine is 60-70%
Fun!
But don't those vaccines also reduce the severity if you are in the percentage that do get it? Even if the covid vaccines did that it would be worth getting it. My main fear at this point is getting sick enough to need care and the hospitals being full. So if a vaccine meant I got a milder illness even that would be great.
Not that it matters where I am - the vaccine situation here is a *kitten* show. The Canadian government totally screwed up vaccine procurement and we will be over here still in lockdown and dying while the rest of the world is getting back to normal.
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Not that it matters where I am - the vaccine situation here is a *kitten* show. The Canadian government totally screwed up vaccine procurement and we will be over here still in lockdown and dying while the rest of the world is getting back to normal.
Agreed. Last I heard my health district had run out of vaccines and was cancelling scheduled appointments.6 -
Y'all made me curious I pulled these effectiveness figures from the CDC for reference:
Flu vaccine is typically 40-60% effective
HPV vaccine 86% in teens, 71% in adults
MMR is 93% for measles, 78% for mumps, and 97% for rubella
DTAP is 80-90% initially then drops slowly over time, is around 70% after four years
Chicken pox vaccine is 82%
Shingrix is 90% and stays above 85% for at least 4 years
Pneumonia vaccine is 60-70%
Fun!
Not that it matters where I am - the vaccine situation here is a *kitten* show. The Canadian government totally screwed up vaccine procurement and we will be over here still in lockdown and dying while the rest of the world is getting back to normal.
Or as the Canadian government puts it: "Everything is perfectly fine. We're doing a great job."
My favourite part is how they decided to require airline passengers to test and quarantine to prevent these new variants about 2 months after the variants were all over Canada.11 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »NM Governor just announced yesterday that public schools can resume in person learning on a hybrid schedule starting Feb 8. It will be up to individual districts as to whether or not they will. I'm in the largest school district in the state, so it'll be interesting to see what they do...hoping the kids will be able to go back though...a couple days out of the week is better than nothing.
Not necessarily for the teachers and their families. Even if teachers are vaccinated (most aren’t right now) the best information says they can still take it home to their families. As can the kids.
Some districts (Oklahoma) say the kids don’t have to wear masks indoors if they’re sitting six feet apart.
I am so scared for my teacher friends and their families.
I have a couple of friends who are teachers and I know quite a few teachers at my kids' school, and every single one of them is and has been ready to get back. The one's that don't want to can opt out. Masks are required in NM indoors and will also be required in school. They are also required outdoors in crowded public areas and any outdoor land/property maintained by a government entity.
Group A will be Monday and Tuesday...Wednesday is a deep clean day...group B on Thursday and Friday. Smaller classes and more separation. All NM private schools have been doing this since the fall and it hasn't been an issue.
From the sounds of things, most districts won't go back until the very end of February as they need time to ramp up. It is thought that by then, most teachers who want to be vaccinated will be. NM is 2nd in the nation in regards to per capita vaccine distribution and getting needles into arms. We've vaccinated roughly 10% of our population currently
My wife works with a number of districts that are in person. Since she is in a group (special ed, speech therapists, and physical therapists) that work more directly with special needs kids that sometimes can't or won't follow the rules they are some of the first to get the vaccine after the healthcare workers and nursing homes. She's supposed to wait another couple weeks since she just got past the quarantine period after contracting Covid.
My sister's SO is normally an occupational therapist in schools that have been closed. He's frustrated as he really can't do his job remotely and the kids in question are getting no services. In lieu of being able to do his job he's been reassigned to do work in hospitals, including in some cases with covid patients (when he started doing this he stopped seeing my sister for a while other than socially distanced, and he skipped our Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners as a result). He has now been vaccinated (it at least put him at the head of the line).
I can't really say what I think of the CTU, as that would be political, but I don't think they are currently being reasonable. And I think it's hurting poor kids, specifically. I am in a neighborhood where improving the schools (more successfully with the elementaries) has been a focus, and many of my neighbors also use the public schools, or did. They've been basically home-schooling in pods and aren't happy about it, but also their kids are unlikely to have been badly affected. The most at-risk kids are the ones who have totally dropped out or otherwise are getting no education.7 -
Not that it matters where I am - the vaccine situation here is a *kitten* show. The Canadian government totally screwed up vaccine procurement and we will be over here still in lockdown and dying while the rest of the world is getting back to normal.
Or as the Canadian government puts it: "Everything is perfectly fine. We're doing a great job."
My favourite part is how they decided to require airline passengers to test and quarantine to prevent these new variants about 2 months after the variants were all over Canada.
I also like how he keeps telling us not to worry we will still have the 4 million promised vaccines by the end of March. Unless they are gonna ship us like 3.5 million doses the last week of March it ain't gonna happen. Seems unlikely - but what do I know.3 -
Not that it matters where I am - the vaccine situation here is a *kitten* show. The Canadian government totally screwed up vaccine procurement and we will be over here still in lockdown and dying while the rest of the world is getting back to normal.
Agreed. Last I heard my health district had run out of vaccines and was cancelling scheduled appointments.
Thankfully my 87 year old mother got her first Pfizer shot last week. Her retirement home was in outbreak since Dec 29 so I was worried it might come too late for them, but somehow only staff members ever tested positive and not a single resident was infected.9 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »NM Governor just announced yesterday that public schools can resume in person learning on a hybrid schedule starting Feb 8. It will be up to individual districts as to whether or not they will. I'm in the largest school district in the state, so it'll be interesting to see what they do...hoping the kids will be able to go back though...a couple days out of the week is better than nothing.
Not necessarily for the teachers and their families. Even if teachers are vaccinated (most aren’t right now) the best information says they can still take it home to their families. As can the kids.
Some districts (Oklahoma) say the kids don’t have to wear masks indoors if they’re sitting six feet apart.
I am so scared for my teacher friends and their families.
I have a couple of friends who are teachers and I know quite a few teachers at my kids' school, and every single one of them is and has been ready to get back. The one's that don't want to can opt out. Masks are required in NM indoors and will also be required in school. They are also required outdoors in crowded public areas and any outdoor land/property maintained by a government entity.
Group A will be Monday and Tuesday...Wednesday is a deep clean day...group B on Thursday and Friday. Smaller classes and more separation. All NM private schools have been doing this since the fall and it hasn't been an issue.
From the sounds of things, most districts won't go back until the very end of February as they need time to ramp up. It is thought that by then, most teachers who want to be vaccinated will be. NM is 2nd in the nation in regards to per capita vaccine distribution and getting needles into arms. We've vaccinated roughly 10% of our population currently
Sounds like your districts have more effective safety plans than the ones where my friends are working (Michigan, Oklahoma, Florida) where they’re not doing what they should to protect anyone, frankly. Especially people with pre-existing conditions which make them more vulnerable to serious health risks as a result of COVID.
No one gets paid enough to literally die for their job.5 -
Y'all made me curious I pulled these effectiveness figures from the CDC for reference:
Flu vaccine is typically 40-60% effective
HPV vaccine 86% in teens, 71% in adults
MMR is 93% for measles, 78% for mumps, and 97% for rubella
DTAP is 80-90% initially then drops slowly over time, is around 70% after four years
Chicken pox vaccine is 82%
Shingrix is 90% and stays above 85% for at least 4 years
Pneumonia vaccine is 60-70%
Fun!
But don't those vaccines also reduce the severity if you are in the percentage that do get it? Even if the covid vaccines did that it would be worth getting it. My main fear at this point is getting sick enough to need care and the hospitals being full. So if a vaccine meant I got a milder illness even that would be great.
Not that it matters where I am - the vaccine situation here is a *kitten* show. The Canadian government totally screwed up vaccine procurement and we will be over here still in lockdown and dying while the rest of the world is getting back to normal.
Yes they certainly do.
So if one is vaccinated against a disease and then still gets it, it is almost always MUCH milder.
Still well worth having the vaccine.
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Not that it matters where I am - the vaccine situation here is a *kitten* show. The Canadian government totally screwed up vaccine procurement and we will be over here still in lockdown and dying while the rest of the world is getting back to normal.
Agreed. Last I heard my health district had run out of vaccines and was cancelling scheduled appointments.
Thankfully my 87 year old mother got her first Pfizer shot last week. Her retirement home was in outbreak since Dec 29 so I was worried it might come too late for them, but somehow only staff members ever tested positive and not a single resident was infected.
I don't know how you've coped all this time with her in an outbreak home, that must have been terrifying. 85% of our local deaths have been in a single LTC facility. I'm so glad she's managed to get her first dose!
My 81 year old father still lives somewhat independently in his own home and isn't even on the radar for vaccination yet.9 -
My husband (81 y.o.) got today his first Pfizer shot; second one scheduled for 2/20. So far so good, but let's see how he feels tomorrow
I am going next Tuesday. 14 -
Ugh. I know masks have been discussed to death. I have no clue which mask is THE mask but feel most offer at least some protection. I went into a convenience store yesterday, 50% in compliance. But what truly pinched my gut, was seeing a woman my sister knows. She can't weigh more than 80#, nothing to her, she's recently had throat cancer, a few months back, and she wasn't playing it safe. Then when she left, she stopped to hug another maskless individual outside.
Oh my lawd.16 -
Yikes! Stay away from her and tell your sister too. Unfortunately some people just don't get it.Ugh. I know masks have been discussed to death. I have no clue which mask is THE mask but feel most offer at least some protection. I went into a convenience store yesterday, 50% in compliance. But what truly pinched my gut, was seeing a woman my sister knows. She can't weigh more than 80#, nothing to her, she's recently had throat cancer, a few months back, and she wasn't playing it safe. Then when she left, she stopped to hug another maskless individual outside.
Oh my lawd.
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Many pages ago, I posted little blurbs about how the different vaccines work, and turns out I misunderstood how the mRNA vaccines work. I could find the post somewhere in the last 50 pages or so and quote it, but ain't nobody got time for that
Anyhoo, I thought the mRNA vaccines contained a spike protein from covid-19, but what they really have is instructions for how our own cells can make the spike protein.
So the vaccine is like a computer code with the Run command for this spike protein. It gets sucked into specific immune cells and they pop out this little part of the covid-19 virus. Then your immune system recognizes this protein as an intruder, develops antibodies to fight it, and kicks it out. Meanwhile, the instructions themselves are so fragile (that's why they have to be kept in deep freeze) that they disintegrate soon after being used.
This whole idea is so groundbreaking because theoretically the same vaccine can be used for all sorts of things, you just have to tweak the instructions being delivered. In fact, the hope is they can include multiple instructions in one shot, limiting the amount of times people need to get jabbed in general.
Wanted to post something vaguely hopeful, as the crapfest going on around us right now is depressing as heck. But hey, if covid-19 doesn't leave the world looking like The Stand, this could be a giant step forward in preventative medicine.22 -
Not that it matters where I am - the vaccine situation here is a *kitten* show. The Canadian government totally screwed up vaccine procurement and we will be over here still in lockdown and dying while the rest of the world is getting back to normal.
Agreed. Last I heard my health district had run out of vaccines and was cancelling scheduled appointments.
Thankfully my 87 year old mother got her first Pfizer shot last week. Her retirement home was in outbreak since Dec 29 so I was worried it might come too late for them, but somehow only staff members ever tested positive and not a single resident was infected.
I don't know how you've coped all this time with her in an outbreak home, that must have been terrifying. 85% of our local deaths have been in a single LTC facility. I'm so glad she's managed to get her first dose!
My 81 year old father still lives somewhat independently in his own home and isn't even on the radar for vaccination yet.
It was very stressful but she is in a semi-independent living retirement home which she has her own small unit and goes to downstairs to the dining room and for activities and meds. So it is a little easier to control the spread than in a long term care home where people are immobile and having more intense care. They were confined to their rooms and had their meals and meds delivered during the outbreak and by some miracle none of the residents got it, just several staff.10 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »NM Governor just announced yesterday that public schools can resume in person learning on a hybrid schedule starting Feb 8. It will be up to individual districts as to whether or not they will. I'm in the largest school district in the state, so it'll be interesting to see what they do...hoping the kids will be able to go back though...a couple days out of the week is better than nothing.
Not necessarily for the teachers and their families. Even if teachers are vaccinated (most aren’t right now) the best information says they can still take it home to their families. As can the kids.
Some districts (Oklahoma) say the kids don’t have to wear masks indoors if they’re sitting six feet apart.
I am so scared for my teacher friends and their families.
I have a couple of friends who are teachers and I know quite a few teachers at my kids' school, and every single one of them is and has been ready to get back. The one's that don't want to can opt out. Masks are required in NM indoors and will also be required in school. They are also required outdoors in crowded public areas and any outdoor land/property maintained by a government entity.
Group A will be Monday and Tuesday...Wednesday is a deep clean day...group B on Thursday and Friday. Smaller classes and more separation. All NM private schools have been doing this since the fall and it hasn't been an issue.
From the sounds of things, most districts won't go back until the very end of February as they need time to ramp up. It is thought that by then, most teachers who want to be vaccinated will be. NM is 2nd in the nation in regards to per capita vaccine distribution and getting needles into arms. We've vaccinated roughly 10% of our population currently
Sounds like your districts have more effective safety plans than the ones where my friends are working (Michigan, Oklahoma, Florida) where they’re not doing what they should to protect anyone, frankly. Especially people with pre-existing conditions which make them more vulnerable to serious health risks as a result of COVID.
No one gets paid enough to literally die for their job.
NM still has some of the most stringent restrictions in the US. We opened up a bit over the summer as our cases were pretty low...end of July had a 7 day rolling average of around 330 new cases per day. By early September we were down to a 7 day rolling average of around 88 new cases per day and there was a lot of pressure to open up further, including schools.
This is about the time when individuals started to become much more lax in their precautions...a lot more people out and about doing "normal" things...more people dining out where earlier in the summer people were more apprehensive even though indoor dining was open...more parties and large gatherings at home and public places, etc. We started spiking again in October and by Thanksgiving our 7 day rolling average had jumped over 2,500 per day, with many days having numbers over 3K per day.
We went into another stay at home "lockdown" about a week before Thanksgiving and have been in that position since. No indoor dining...limited outdoor patio dining...no bars are open...gyms open, but with substantial restrictions on occupancy as well as amenities that can be used, etc. The NM government is also trying their best to limit travel to NM for other states, which hurts as tourism is one of our largest industries. Of course, they can't straight up deny entry to the state...but there's nothing to do here, and the things that are open like the zoo, botanical gardens, state parks, etc are only open to NM residents and ID is required to enter these places.
No idea how much longer this will go on...but our numbers have dropped to a 7 day rolling average of around 700 as of yesterday. There has been a big push to re-open schools on at least a hybrid basis, even if we need to keep other restrictions such as indoor dining in place. Mid year reports across most school districts show a high failure rate with distance learning as well as growing mental health issues with children across the state that simply didn't exist at this level before. As well as we've done as a state with this virus, unfortunately, we are also leading the nation in childhood suicide.12 -
kshama2001 wrote: »We don't have a readout. A tech said it was set at the max, which is 130 degrees in my state, but when I measure it from the sink with a digital thermometer, I get 136.
This is something everyone should check regularly, how hot is it out of the tap. The heater may be off or someone may have fiddled with the setting after a cold shower. I had to do this when I worked in a youth group home, to prevent youths from getting accidentally scalded.1 -
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kshama2001 wrote: »We don't have a readout. A tech said it was set at the max, which is 130 degrees in my state, but when I measure it from the sink with a digital thermometer, I get 136.
This is something everyone should check regularly, how hot is it out of the tap. The heater may be off or someone may have fiddled with the setting after a cold shower. I had to do this when I worked in a youth group home, to prevent youths from getting accidentally scalded.
This is what I have been thinking about seeing these posts about water temps. I remember years ago a plumber setting our hot water heat to somewhere around 110 F, maybe as much as 114, but definitely well below 120, to avoid scalding, and this was in a household of adults, none of whom were mentally compromised. I had the impression it was either a county code or a professional best practices thing. It wasn't like the homeowner couldn't change it after he left, but there was no wink-wink on his part pointing that out.5 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »We don't have a readout. A tech said it was set at the max, which is 130 degrees in my state, but when I measure it from the sink with a digital thermometer, I get 136.
This is something everyone should check regularly, how hot is it out of the tap. The heater may be off or someone may have fiddled with the setting after a cold shower. I had to do this when I worked in a youth group home, to prevent youths from getting accidentally scalded.
This is what I have been thinking about seeing these posts about water temps. I remember years ago a plumber setting our hot water heat to somewhere around 110 F, maybe as much as 114, but definitely well below 120, to avoid scalding, and this was in a household of adults, none of whom were mentally compromised. I had the impression it was either a county code or a professional best practices thing. It wasn't like the homeowner couldn't change it after he left, but there was no wink-wink on his part pointing that out.
My Dad was a pipefitter. Yes, it's a general practice thing to keep people from getting accidentally burned. I keep mine at 140 and you can get scalded if you're not careful.2
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