The Sober Squad- Alcohol Free Living
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I second RubyRed about the sugar cravings. I keep lollipops on hand for that.4
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Hi all, just checking out this page again and recognizing a few folks that I originally met on the Less Alcohol thread. I currently am on a 67-day AF streak with a new goal to be AF through the Lenten season. I may be lurking here from time to time until I feel I can really feel worthy of the sober squad distinction!10
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From an article I read about Chrissy Hynde, of the Pretenders. I love this.
At 60 she gave up smoking, drinking and taking drugs. "Alcohol is the real demonic one," she says. "It's so insidious because it's everywhere and it's the gateway to more debauched drugs." She got sober in pretty much the same way she gave up smoking - by reading Alan Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking and then "you bite the bullet for a week". She had contemplated giving up for years. "You wake up and you're disgusted, and you throw it all away, and you say never again, and then you repeat it. And then there's the self-loathing. Now I'm not recovering, I'm fully recovered. I never think about it." Instead, she has cultivated other preoccupations - she paints most days and does yoga each morning, wherever she is, pushing back the furniture in hotels and dressing rooms to run through her routine. "I stand on my head," she says, "and I'm good to go."
Now I'm not recovering, I'm fully recovered.
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Not that I am fully recovered. I know that will take some time. But I love that she feels that way. I DO feel that way about cigarettes but that has been years.5
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Hi all, just checking out this page again and recognizing a few folks that I originally met on the Less Alcohol thread. I currently am on a 67-day AF streak with a new goal to be AF through the Lenten season. I may be lurking here from time to time until I feel I can really feel worthy of the sober squad distinction!
HI Tesha, I read the less alcohol thread everyday. IT's motivational for me, too. Welcome here! Bravo on your 67 AF streak. I'm sure the benefits are outweighing the short moments of reprieve alcohol brings.5 -
From an article I read about Chrissy Hynde, of the Pretenders. I love this.
At 60 she gave up smoking, drinking and taking drugs. "Alcohol is the real demonic one," she says. "It's so insidious because it's everywhere and it's the gateway to more debauched drugs." She got sober in pretty much the same way she gave up smoking - by reading Alan Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking and then "you bite the bullet for a week". She had contemplated giving up for years. "You wake up and you're disgusted, and you throw it all away, and you say never again, and then you repeat it. And then there's the self-loathing. Now I'm not recovering, I'm fully recovered. I never think about it." Instead, she has cultivated other preoccupations - she paints most days and does yoga each morning, wherever she is, pushing back the furniture in hotels and dressing rooms to run through her routine. "I stand on my head," she says, "and I'm good to go."
Now I'm not recovering, I'm fully recovered.
That is awesome to read about Chrissy. It is never too late. She probably extended her life many years by quitting all of the carcinogens.
Did you read about the football player who died? Besides harmful concussions from the NFL, he was heavily impacted by alcohol addiction, his family says. Quite sad.2 -
@RubyRed427 I did not read that yet but I will. It is tragic.2
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Hi, all. Send some good thoughts our way (Texas). It has been a hell of a week. I'm returning home today after 4 nights with a relative. Still sober. That's the good news.4
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Up_n_Running wrote: »
Welcome to our group! Good to have you on board. It can feel scary at first, but it only gets easier the longer you stay the course.
I now PREFER a sober life. 4 months ago ? I never thought I would be saying that. I had lots of raw emotion to deal with. It was hard. But I found that being sober, gave me a space to unpack and process baggage and ultimately begin the healing process that I so needed. All I had been doing up until that point ? Was drowning my emotions with wine. They were still there. So through sobriery and healing, I no longer need / want to drink.
Good luck on your journey! 🧡RubyRed427 wrote: »
Welcome! In the beginning , I was bare knuckling it! Just hanging in there through cravings and habits. Cooking was hard to do because I drank wine during cooking. After work was hard to deal with , because I stopped for happy hours. BUT it is doable. And that's why people say just take one day at a time. Don't worry about tomorrow. Just stay sober today.
You may experience sugar cravings because you're used to the dopamine kick from alcohol, so maybe hard candy nearby could help.
For some of us, alcohol use has become troublesome and not worth the consequences.
Check out this thread's earlier book recommendations and youtube videos. You'll learn a lot and it is motivating to know you are not alone!
I just wanted to say thanks for the warm welcome!
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@Up_n_Running Once lockdown is over, could he perhaps live with someone else? Or is that not possible? It is hard for me to hear how he tries to sabotage all your hard work and self improvement efforts. We know that comes from a place of insecurity on his own part. You have overcome tremendous obstacles to maintain your sobriety. I know I speak for all of us when I tell you how PROUD we are of you!
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@Up_n_Running First let me offer my deepest condolences for the loss of your parents at such a young age, for all of you. What an enormous responsibility to take on, as well as dealing with your own grief. No wonder you drank. Who wouldn't? It seems to be that yes, you have "done your duty" as far as being responsible for him. Now he is a young man and can begin to be less dependent on you. Of course, he will always be family; you aren't going to cut him loose completely, but he does need to learn to find his own path.3
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@Up_n_Running You are in a tough spot. You do care for him and you probably also have extra empathy for him since you both lost your parents. You are a beautiful person to have taken him in. He is a typical young person, takes advantage of "caregivers". Plus I am sure you pay for things like food, bills for him. Does he work? Hope he contributes sometime because that will build character.
Maybe videotape him when he is saying things to you and show him the next day. He may not remember.
I see him in me. That drinking obsessions is strong at any age.
My daughter just texted me that she vomited for the first time ever from drinking ; I feel so sorry for her and so worried; I hope she doesn't have my disease. Time will tell.
I'm scrapbook this weekend; last night my friend said "Ruby, I brought the pear vodka and cranberry..... Oh wait ,you don't drink anymore, do you?" I said "No.... but that sure does sound good. Enjoy!"
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When you mentioned @Up_n_Running that he has the thirst.
I call that the obsession.
When I drink one night, the obsession continues the next day, I think about when my next drink will be. What will it be? Where will I go to happy hour? Just compulsive alcohol thinking thoughts.
For me, it's a compulsion that can never be quelled.
That's why some of us are just better of living a sober life. The compulsion lifts a bit and after some traction, you. are better able to analyze if you want to go down that drunken road again. I sure don't.3 -
One last comment, my sponsor's daughter was in high school when she approached her mom and said she is going to go to AA. My sponsor said she had no idea at all that her daughter was drinking.
So, this young girl took herself to AA in high school. What a wise person. It took me decades to quit.2 -
I also am reflecting on what you said about putting in the time to stay sober and your brother is just carefree drinking.
I felt that a lot of times. I was jealous of my friends drinking their vodkas and long island iced teas and there I was drinking club soda. But then I remind myself not to worry about them, just do you.
Clearly that's hard to do when your brother lives with you.2 -
I remember the time I poured my out heart to my husband; I told him I know I have a drinking problem. I even wrote him a long letter apologizing for all that I have done drunk, etc.
We were out to dinner and I was embarrassed to finally say I am an alcoholic......
Then, the waiter came and my husband said "I'll order a glass of red wine." (for himself)
UGH! That was not the support I was looking for!!!3 -
@Up_n_Running, (Wow, my first time not typing your Foo Foo handle) . . . you are incredibly strong. I really don't think there are many of us (certainly not ME) who could hold up as well as you have in your situation.
I'm just glad you've seen how beautiful sober life feels and how giving that up would be doing yourself a huge disservice. Hang in there. I'm sending positive thoughts and prayers your way.4 -
Hello to all transforming your life! Alcohol free is a choice and one that usually has many chapters....we all have a story and mine includes alcoholism on both sides of the family....I had 11 years of sobriety and then decided I could have wine in Spain and off I went....
I could give you times I didn't drink and how long in between but I think the most important issue is that I know that alcohol is my go to "Saboteur".....that goes deep into how we love ourselves....when I drink I don't love myself and that starts cycles of negative thinking and not being worthy or deserving...
I finally got that I am responsible for myself and my choices.....so I choose not to drink and start cycles that get me no where.
I feel that alcohol is about having a hole inside that we think will be filled somehow and no substance will do that....not food, shopping, sex, etc....My key has been to really make friends with that hole and ask for guidance so I can understand it and then I sit with the answers and see what comes up....I get answers and then I have something to work with.
The pandemic has given me lots of time to look at my life, and make sense of choices I have made....some no longer serve me and this includes alcohol....I have let go of friends as our connection was drinking and now I see I have changed and no longer want that as an activity...these are good people but they have chosen drinking when now I do not....plain, simple, and no judgement that one is better than the other....just choice...
Coming back to Fitness Pal is also about choice to be responsible and accountable to food choices..
I am back to logging and I feel good....however the best part of all of this change is that I am being my OWN Best Friend and validation comes from within....
One resource that is worth mentioning is a group called Women For Sobriety and it has great resources for growth and transformation. I use their affirmations and they really speak to me. Check them out of the internet.
Thanks for reading and make a choice today to looking at no alcohol as the first step in loving yourself.
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Day 1... again. Thank you all for being here.6
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@billyfallon1 Day 1 is over probably - hooray! Now on to day 2. Just think one day at a time. And never stop trying!
@chariotlady Thank you for your post. I reread it twice to really absorb your wise words. I understand where you are coming from. I am also slowly changing my friend groups-they're good people but alcohol is at the center of every, single thing we do.
Recently I planned a solo trip to FLA, and my drinking friend heard and asked me twice if she can come.
I want to tell her the truth: NO because you drink Long Island iced teas all day long on vacations; I know because I have vacationed with her for many years. Since I am striving to be sober, her presence is hard for me because of course, I would love to drink but I cannot. So, I told her no I want to be alone.
Anyway, I noticed you said you went to Spain and thought your could drink again.
I watched a video and the guy said when you take a break from drinking and go back to alcohol you pick up where you would have been had you been drinking all along; is that what happened to you? You went right back into heavy drinking?
@chariotlady My sister recommended Women in Sobriety too. She is nearly one year sober. Hope you stop by again. I really benefited from your words!
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Up_n_Running wrote: »My partner told me that, my brother poured the rest of his alcohol down the kitchen drain last night
Hmmmmm. That's interesting. Maybe he has had enough 🤔
I remember doing that, making promises to myself that today will be different, and then sheepishly stopping after work to buy a bottle. So many wasted bottles I poured down the sink. But those episodes collectively brought me to where I am today. So at least it's a good start for him. Congrats on 4 months!!! Amazing!!!
Last night the scrapbooking girls had French martinis. Oh how I used to make them and love them. But I felt my lip snarl a little bit when they asked me if I wanted one. What I observed is these people are not like me. I didn't see them say "let's have another round" or anything like that. Ahhh. they're normal drinkers, must be nice.
I do feel for how badly your brother's hangover must have been. OMG those were wicked times; hangovers where you saw the world around you go by and people doing things and I was lying in bed praying to God to help me or at least kill me, I felt so badly!!!4 -
Still hanging in still sober after my slip up last month. @Up_n_Running congrats on your 4 months!
I woke up pretty depressed and sad this morning. My husband is back full swing into drinking after giving it up for 3 months. Well last night he said the lousiest things to some of us that were having a great time carrying on alcohol free. It hurts. But how long do you carry it around now? We know the source we know hes a bad character when he drinks not all the time but alot. Idk. Im pretty disgusted. And all the more reason not to drink. Seeing is believing. And I want nothing to do with alcohol.4 -
@Up_n_Running, I like that advice from Bex Weller about treating yourself to something besides alcohol. Of course I'm not going anywhere during the pandemic, but I often think about the trip I took to Italy a couple of years ago and wonder how on earth I could go back there and not drink. Wine was so much a focus of our trip that my sister-in-law actually quit her job and bought a winery in Virginia when we returned. I have wanted very much to go see her beautiful winery but thought, "How could I possibly do that and say 'no thank you' to tasting the wines?" After my Jan. 6 disaster, I know for sure that there would be no such thing as tasting the wines and then jumping right back into sobriety. I do like the idea of pre-planning something wonderful for yourself to enjoy while others are drinking. Thanks for that thought.4
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Still hanging in still sober after my slip up last month. @Up_n_Running congrats on your 4 months!
I woke up pretty depressed and sad this morning. My husband is back full swing into drinking after giving it up for 3 months. Well last night he said the lousiest things to some of us that were having a great time carrying on alcohol free. It hurts. But how long do you carry it around now? We know the source we know hes a bad character when he drinks not all the time but alot. Idk. Im pretty disgusted. And all the more reason not to drink. Seeing is believing. And I want nothing to do with alcohol.
This hurts! I can feel your pain from here. It is so hurtful even if his antics were from alcohol; I, too, have sent really mean texts to a friend telling her exactly what I THINK of her. But your situation is worse, because it's your husband. Why can't he see how good life was for three months without alcohol ? I wonder what made him think he could go back to moderating? Sigh. Sending you hugs.5 -
RubyRed427 wrote: »
I watched a video and the guy said when you take a break from drinking and go back to alcohol you pick up where you would have been had you been drinking all along; is that what happened to you? You went right back into heavy drinking?
Kate Bee says the same thing in her Sober School course. At the end of our six weeks, she said that of course we were free to choose to drink after the course ended. We had committed to not drinking for six weeks, and that period was ending. BUT, she said, don't kid yourself that you are going to a new, moderate drinking life. She said we would be returning to exactly where we were when we signed up and paid for that course because we hated what drinking was doing to us. I had fantasies that I would be the unicorn that was the exception. I'm not.
I've begun mentally associating my sobriety with my granddaughters, whom I love more than anything on earth. I want to envision my sobriety as something just as precious, something that I would never, ever jeopardize in any way. That mental "trick" is helpful for me.
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I read Annie Grace's book, "This Naked Mind"...um probably about a year ago. I just started with her "30 Day Alcohol Experiment" book and I'm on day 5 with no alcohol. Reading a chapter per day and doing the journaling questions and my own reflections journal has really helped a lot. I haven't had more than 2 dry days in a row for 20 years. I thought this weekend would be really tough as I can't recall the last time I was every dry on a Friday or Saturday, but it wasn't too bad. Made a fantastic dinner on Friday evening and watched a new show with my wife (who is also doing it) and yesterday spent what would normally be the start of my Saturday "happy hour" playing with my kids at the soccer fields for a couple hours and then coming home and watching some shows on Discovery with my 8 year old who's really into that kind of stuff and a movie later with my wife.7
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Thanks for the support and comments today. ❤ to the group.
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@donimfp I agree with the granddaughters sentiment. I have had my 2, ages 2.5 and 4.5 all weekend. They are the most precious things in my life, and I want to be the person they believe me to be. Sort of the way your dog always will feel about you, though kids wise up eventually and realize you aren't perfect. That being said, they aren't going to know Tipsy Granny like my own girls knew Tipsy Mommy. I'm not making that mistake again. No Sir.7
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I have a general idea of when the last drink was/day one, but I do not count. I have no idea what year I even quit smoking. I prefer not to think about it at all.3
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@RubyRed427 I had to look up what was in a French Martini and I have to admit it sounds delicious. Good for you for sticking to your guns. No drink is worth that horrendous day 1.
I sound like a broken record but if you are struggling with staying sober, I am absolutely LOVING Alan Carr's, the easy way to quit drinking book. There would be no point in highlighting it with a pen because everything in there would be in yellow. I highly recommend it. I bought the version for anyone (there IS one specifically for women) in the hopes my husband will pick it up when I conveniently leave it laying around sometime. He doesn't drink as much as I did but he certainly CAN overindulge and I do not like the way he acts when he does. (Loud, repetitive, annoying etc.) Plus we all know it is terrible for your health and his brother who was the picture of good health habits now has stage 4 colon cancer. We need to take better care of our bodies. It is almost embarrassing that HE is the one that is so sick when we abused our bodies for years with cigarettes and booze. Ugh. The least we can do is set a healthy example to the rest of the family now, in his honor.6
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