Coronavirus prep

paperpudding · May 2021

Out of close to 1.4 million doses of AstraZeneca that have been administered in Australia, 11 people have developed TTS, with one fatality that is currently under investigation by the coroner.

Professor Skerritt said that a number of those who developed the rare syndrome had ‘quite serious and significant underlying health conditions’.

He also noted that people with pre-existing clotting conditions did not appear to be at an increased risk of developing TTS.

from this article: https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/tga-confirms-five-new-cases-of-blood-clots-linked

I am over 50 and I have had first dose of AZ about 4 weeks ago.

In the clinic I work at, we have given over 600 vaccines now with no serious issues at all.

Clinics are booked out weeks in advance.

GaleHawkins · May 2021

GaleHawkins wrote: »

Tomorrow the wife and I are to get our first Covid-19 Vaccine shot.

12 hours after my first shot I woke up to weird dreaming and shaking but I was warm yet the wife and daughter had no side effects. From my readings today it sounds like in the past I may have had Covid-19. That may be one reason I have been dealing with blood clots in my legs for 4 months and spent Easter weekend in ICU to remove clot fragments from each lung using tPA directly into each lung.

mockchoc · May 2021

tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »

mockchoc wrote: »

5 people this week alone got blood clots from the AZ shots here in Australia. I've always been pro vaccine but now I'm not so sure especially as we have low rates of Covid. So confused.

1.4 million vaccinations in Australia so far, and 11 reported cases of TTS. Younger people are more at risk than older, though older people can develop TTS too.

I am not a statician, I don't know what the odds are, I guess people have to weigh up the risk of clots vs the long term impact of having covid or possibly dying from it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-07/covid-astrazeneca-vaccine-clotting-risks-over-50s-explained/100122730

It's easy for me to say as I had the pfizer vaccine and I am over 50, but if I had to have the az vaccine I very likely would have.

Thing is in my region which is North QLD we've this entire time had only one case of Covid ever and it was only from a politician that flew here then put herself in hospital ASAP when she got symptoms so it didn't get spread in the community. We have almost zero risk or at least that is how it has been since Covid was a thing so I wonder if it's worth getting the shot here for me or not. I'd take any of the others just not want the AZ. I have close to zero chance of getting Covid the way it's been so far. Of course not saying it'll stay that way down the track. We are pretty tough here. One case and the boarders close. Everything stops. Masks on.

mockchoc · May 2021

GaleHawkins wrote: »

GaleHawkins wrote: »

Tomorrow the wife and I are to get our first Covid-19 Vaccine shot.

12 hours after my first shot I woke up to weird dreaming and shaking but I was warm yet the wife and daughter had no side effects. From my readings today it sounds like in the past I may have had Covid-19. That may be one reason I have been dealing with blood clots in my legs for 4 months and spent Easter weekend in ICU to remove clot fragments from each lung using tPA directly into each lung.

Gale so sorry to hear that. Gosh.... Glad you are ok.

GaleHawkins · May 2021

mockchoc wrote: »

GaleHawkins wrote: »

GaleHawkins wrote: »

Tomorrow the wife and I are to get our first Covid-19 Vaccine shot.

12 hours after my first shot I woke up to weird dreaming and shaking but I was warm yet the wife and daughter had no side effects. From my readings today it sounds like in the past I may have had Covid-19. That may be one reason I have been dealing with blood clots in my legs for 4 months and spent Easter weekend in ICU to remove clot fragments from each lung using tPA directly into each lung.

Gale so sorry to hear that. Gosh.... Glad you are ok.

Thanks. I woke feeling ok this morning. Yesterday afternoon I later down to get my right foot elevated for a while and was reading when I realized I was breathing well and was not using my CPAP machine.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/2/22308965/covid-vaccine-shots-symptoms-improve-chronic-long-haulers

About 6 PM I went for a walk. I noticed was walking faster down the long hill and coming back up. Since last summer I had to rest on my way back up and yesterday I didn't feel the need to walk slow and rest.

From the article above and others getting the vaccine helps some to feel better but not others. It will be interesting to see how shot #2 impacts me next month.

I did test negative Easter weekend but that was my first test. After the butt kicking 12 hours after my first vaccine shot and dealing with a serious sinus infection last week of 2020 and the first week of 2021 that may have masked a Covid-19 infection. I was in bed a lot using my CPAP. On the other hand it seems the wife and daughter never had symptoms. The left then right leg blood clots with serious lung involvement was my red flag.

Fuzzipeg · May 2021

Gale, Its so good to know you are on the mend. I'd wondered how you are. I'd missed your comments, till today that is. Sorry you have been so ill.

spiriteagle99 · May 2021

A question for the Australians and New Zealanders: what will happen when you country opens up again? Right now, travel is severely restricted, so cases are very very low. But at some point, people are going to want to travel again. I assume tourism is a somewhat or fairly important part of your economy and people from your countries are going to want to leave and go back again. Since the odds are Covid will become endemic, once your countries open up, you will be very vulnerable if people decide not to get vaccinated. I understand thinking that since cases are low there is no need for the shot, but do you want to live in quarantine forever?

Athijade · May 2021

So as I posted before, I got my shot Thursday morning. I did good most of Thursday except for fatigue and nausea. By Thursday evening I had a very mild fever, nausea, mild body aches, and bad fatigue. By that night and overnight I ended up with a higher fever, nausea, bad body aches, bad fatigue, and chills. I barely slept that night because I hurt so bad and my fever kept coming and going which caused me to be hot, then cold, then hot, then cold until the fever finally broke about 4:30am. Friday I was pretty much in bed due to fatigue and aches. However, about 4 or 5 that evening I felt pretty normal. I do seem to tire easily, but that could be explained by the chronic fatigue I deal with flaring due to the reaction.

kimny72 · May 2021

mockchoc wrote: »

tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »

mockchoc wrote: »

5 people this week alone got blood clots from the AZ shots here in Australia. I've always been pro vaccine but now I'm not so sure especially as we have low rates of Covid. So confused.

1.4 million vaccinations in Australia so far, and 11 reported cases of TTS. Younger people are more at risk than older, though older people can develop TTS too.

I am not a statician, I don't know what the odds are, I guess people have to weigh up the risk of clots vs the long term impact of having covid or possibly dying from it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-07/covid-astrazeneca-vaccine-clotting-risks-over-50s-explained/100122730

It's easy for me to say as I had the pfizer vaccine and I am over 50, but if I had to have the az vaccine I very likely would have.

tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »

mockchoc wrote: »

5 people this week alone got blood clots from the AZ shots here in Australia. I've always been pro vaccine but now I'm not so sure especially as we have low rates of Covid. So confused.

1.4 million vaccinations in Australia so far, and 11 reported cases of TTS. Younger people are more at risk than older, though older people can develop TTS too.

I am not a statician, I don't know what the odds are, I guess people have to weigh up the risk of clots vs the long term impact of having covid or possibly dying from it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-07/covid-astrazeneca-vaccine-clotting-risks-over-50s-explained/100122730

It's easy for me to say as I had the pfizer vaccine and I am over 50, but if I had to have the az vaccine I very likely would have.

Thing is in my region which is North QLD we've this entire time had only one case of Covid ever and it was only from a politician that flew here then put herself in hospital ASAP when she got symptoms so it didn't get spread in the community. We have almost zero risk or at least that is how it has been since Covid was a thing so I wonder if it's worth getting the shot here for me or not. I'd take any of the others just not want the AZ. I have close to zero chance of getting Covid the way it's been so far. Of course not saying it'll stay that way down the track. We are pretty tough here. One case and the boarders close. Everything stops. Masks on.

But is the country just going to stay closed forever? It is going to take years to get the majority of the planet vaccinated.

The risk of the blood clots is very low, and it looks like the few deaths were from people not getting appropriate medical care because the symptoms weren't linked to a vaccine reaction.

You are insanely fortunate to live in a country that can realistically control it's borders so effectively. At some point, that will fall away and you will need to have been vaccinated. If you have access to other vaccines before that happens, you may have the luxury of waiting.

Keep in mind that every medication you've taken in your life, including over the counter, had serious risk factors listed on the bottle. I could dig you up all sorts of scary sounding stats about how many people die after doing things we do without thinking, like driving, having babies, taking ibuprofen several times a month, shoveling snow.

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For those that only have access to AZ or JJ, the media does a horrible job at relaying statistics realistically. All I had to know was that we still don't know why some people suffer so much worse with covid than others. There ARE young healthy people, including children, who get very sick and even die. The chest scans I have seen reported of some folks who got a mild case of covid but now have lungs like lifelong smokers were scary. I know people who had mild cases but a year later still deal with intense fatigue and lack of endurance. I got JJ because it was the first one available to me and now that they know the clotting issue is a risk, it can be effectively treated.

Worldwide vaccination is likely our only way out of this, as has been the case with dozens of viruses that we forget about how dangerous they were.

jo_nz · May 2021

spiriteagle99 wrote: »

A question for the Australians and New Zealanders: what will happen when you country opens up again? Right now, travel is severely restricted, so cases are very very low. But at some point, people are going to want to travel again. I assume tourism is a somewhat or fairly important part of your economy and people from your countries are going to want to leave and go back again. Since the odds are Covid will become endemic, once your countries open up, you will be very vulnerable if people decide not to get vaccinated. I understand thinking that since cases are low there is no need for the shot, but do you want to live in quarantine forever?

Good question - I don't know the entire answer to that. I think the idea is get "everyone" vaccinated first and then start to open up more.

We (New Zealand) are in the midst of our vaccine rollout - we've started with border workers and then frontline health staff. Next will be at-risk and older people, then everyone else after that (expected to be July).

I have already had my first shot this week (Pfizer).

Yes, tourism is an important part of our economy, and really suffering with the situation. We have currently got a two-way travel agreement with Australia, so that's great, but I think a lot of the first wave of travellers were families visiting each other, rather than tourist activities as such.

We have had a pretty cautious approach throughout covid, so I imagine reopening borders will be the same - watching, waiting and then opening up in stages to see how it goes. And I think a lot will depend on vaccine rollout in other places - maybe only allowing vaccinated people to come here? But that's just my speculation really.

mockchoc · May 2021

kimny72 wrote: »

mockchoc wrote: »

tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »

mockchoc wrote: »

5 people this week alone got blood clots from the AZ shots here in Australia. I've always been pro vaccine but now I'm not so sure especially as we have low rates of Covid. So confused.

1.4 million vaccinations in Australia so far, and 11 reported cases of TTS. Younger people are more at risk than older, though older people can develop TTS too.

I am not a statician, I don't know what the odds are, I guess people have to weigh up the risk of clots vs the long term impact of having covid or possibly dying from it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-07/covid-astrazeneca-vaccine-clotting-risks-over-50s-explained/100122730

It's easy for me to say as I had the pfizer vaccine and I am over 50, but if I had to have the az vaccine I very likely would have.

tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »

mockchoc wrote: »

5 people this week alone got blood clots from the AZ shots here in Australia. I've always been pro vaccine but now I'm not so sure especially as we have low rates of Covid. So confused.

1.4 million vaccinations in Australia so far, and 11 reported cases of TTS. Younger people are more at risk than older, though older people can develop TTS too.

I am not a statician, I don't know what the odds are, I guess people have to weigh up the risk of clots vs the long term impact of having covid or possibly dying from it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-07/covid-astrazeneca-vaccine-clotting-risks-over-50s-explained/100122730

It's easy for me to say as I had the pfizer vaccine and I am over 50, but if I had to have the az vaccine I very likely would have.

Thing is in my region which is North QLD we've this entire time had only one case of Covid ever and it was only from a politician that flew here then put herself in hospital ASAP when she got symptoms so it didn't get spread in the community. We have almost zero risk or at least that is how it has been since Covid was a thing so I wonder if it's worth getting the shot here for me or not. I'd take any of the others just not want the AZ. I have close to zero chance of getting Covid the way it's been so far. Of course not saying it'll stay that way down the track. We are pretty tough here. One case and the boarders close. Everything stops. Masks on.

But is the country just going to stay closed forever? It is going to take years to get the majority of the planet vaccinated.

The risk of the blood clots is very low, and it looks like the few deaths were from people not getting appropriate medical care because the symptoms weren't linked to a vaccine reaction.

You are insanely fortunate to live in a country that can realistically control it's borders so effectively. At some point, that will fall away and you will need to have been vaccinated. If you have access to other vaccines before that happens, you may have the luxury of waiting.

Keep in mind that every medication you've taken in your life, including over the counter, had serious risk factors listed on the bottle. I could dig you up all sorts of scary sounding stats about how many people die after doing things we do without thinking, like driving, having babies, taking ibuprofen several times a month, shoveling snow.

*
For those that only have access to AZ or JJ, the media does a horrible job at relaying statistics realistically. All I had to know was that we still don't know why some people suffer so much worse with covid than others. There ARE young healthy people, including children, who get very sick and even die. The chest scans I have seen reported of some folks who got a mild case of covid but now have lungs like lifelong smokers were scary. I know people who had mild cases but a year later still deal with intense fatigue and lack of endurance. I got JJ because it was the first one available to me and now that they know the clotting issue is a risk, it can be effectively treated.

Worldwide vaccination is likely our only way out of this, as has been the case with dozens of viruses that we forget about how dangerous they were.

Thanks for your thoughts Kimny. I will go ahead with the AZ as soon as I can have it. Totally trust your opinion. I do love to see the world too and can't wait for things to be normal again every where.

Psychgrrl · May 2021

GaleHawkins wrote: »

GaleHawkins wrote: »

Tomorrow the wife and I are to get our first Covid-19 Vaccine shot.

12 hours after my first shot I woke up to weird dreaming and shaking but I was warm yet the wife and daughter had no side effects. From my readings today it sounds like in the past I may have had Covid-19. That may be one reason I have been dealing with blood clots in my legs for 4 months and spent Easter weekend in ICU to remove clot fragments from each lung using tPA directly into each lung.

Gale, I'm truly sorry you've been having such potentially serious difficulties. Hope you're truly on the mend now.

Psychgrrl · May 2021

Thought this was interesting: Why the world’s most vaccinated country is seeing an unprecedented spike in coronavirus cases." The Seychelles used a combo of the Chinese vaccine by Sinopharm and India's produced AZ vaccine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/05/06/seychelles-vaccines-covid-cases/

To be honest, this ways heavily on me as college campuses in the US look to have large on-campus populations next year (well, those of us who didn't have them this year) and our international students, who hail mainly from China, return. There is a lot of inequity to access to vaccines, and the one from China has been shown to have lower efficacy against the variants. I'm not responsible for the decision (waaaaay above my pay grade), but I will be responsible for managing cases, if they occur.

We have some international students who enrolled in specific classes that were meeting in person, paid for rooms they didn't live in and food they didn't eat until their visas came through, just to get here with the hope that if a vaccine came out, they could get it because they were in the country. And they did. Several from India who are really struggling with being grateful for not being home right now and wishing they were there to help their families. We will continue to house them this summer, as we did last summer; we're not kicking people out who do not have a safe place to go.

The_Enginerd · May 2021

Had my second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine yesterday morning. Did notice it looked like a different, more traditional syringe needle than what they used the first time, and I had heard there are shortages of the low dead space syringes that are used to get the most doses out of every vile.

Went on a 90 minute bike ride at lunch afterwards, did some automotive work that afternoon. No change in temperature, no chills, headache, tiredness. Even my arm was less sore this time around. 40 and male, so was expected I might feel icky for 1/2 a day to a day and need to take a rest day, but so far nothing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Ending up doing my usual long run this morning (15+ miles).

My partner got a NASTY headache the evening of her second shot that caused vomiting and she felt pretty crappy that night and the first half of her second day, but was okay to ride her bike that evening the day after.

Gisel2015 · May 2021

Is this thread closed? I know that three additional postings took place after @The_Enginerd on 5/09, but every time that I try to read them, I get an error message.

ythannah · May 2021

Gisel2015 wrote: »

Is this thread closed? I know that three additional postings took place after @The_Enginerd on 5/09, but every time that I try to read them, I get an error message.

Seems to be working fine....

AnnPT77 · May 2021

Gisel2015 wrote: »

Is this thread closed? I know that three additional postings took place after @The_Enginerd on 5/09, but every time that I try to read them, I get an error message.

I think I know the posts you mean (showed up in notifications). I have a suspicion that those specific posts were deleted from the thread, whether at the request of those who posted them, or because of terms of service.

smithker75 · May 2021

jo_nz wrote: »

spiriteagle99 wrote: »

A question for the Australians and New Zealanders: what will happen when you country opens up again? Right now, travel is severely restricted, so cases are very very low. But at some point, people are going to want to travel again. I assume tourism is a somewhat or fairly important part of your economy and people from your countries are going to want to leave and go back again. Since the odds are Covid will become endemic, once your countries open up, you will be very vulnerable if people decide not to get vaccinated. I understand thinking that since cases are low there is no need for the shot, but do you want to live in quarantine forever?

Good question - I don't know the entire answer to that. I think the idea is get "everyone" vaccinated first and then start to open up more.

We (New Zealand) are in the midst of our vaccine rollout - we've started with border workers and then frontline health staff. Next will be at-risk and older people, then everyone else after that (expected to be July).

I have already had my first shot this week (Pfizer).

Yes, tourism is an important part of our economy, and really suffering with the situation. We have currently got a two-way travel agreement with Australia, so that's great, but I think a lot of the first wave of travellers were families visiting each other, rather than tourist activities as such.

We have had a pretty cautious approach throughout covid, so I imagine reopening borders will be the same - watching, waiting and then opening up in stages to see how it goes. And I think a lot will depend on vaccine rollout in other places - maybe only allowing vaccinated people to come here? But that's just my speculation really.

Our government (Australia) has indicated that international travel will not resume until at least mid-2022. In the meantime, we have the travel bubble with NZ as @jo_nz mentioned. Our vaccination rollout has been pretty abysmal and many frontline workers are still yet to be vaccinated.

Gisel2015 · May 2021

Below is the error message that I get when I click the tittle in the Notifications section. Two messages were from @Godlord1488, and one from @snowflake954. So weird! but glad that is still open because it is the only one that I follow.

Reply Not Found
The page you were looking for could not be found.

33gail33 · May 2021

Ontario is stopping the Astra Zeneca vaccine altogether as a first dose. Apparently the blood clot cases were about 1 in 60,000 here and since we have loads of other vaccine options they decided to stop that one. If they continue on with it in Canada they expect there would be 20-25 more vaccine related deaths. Not sure what they are going to do with the thousands of people who already got it (They say the second dose risk is much, much lower - like one in a million. But then again they said that about the first dose too at the beginning). We have so much Pfizer vaccine coming in I am guessing they will give that as the second dose once they determine it is effective.
Daughter got her first dose today, and my sons are booked for Saturday, and next Tuesday. Finally going to have the whole family vaxx'd (first dose anyway).

SummerSkier · May 2021

AnnPT77 wrote: »

Gisel2015 wrote: »

Is this thread closed? I know that three additional postings took place after @The_Enginerd on 5/09, but every time that I try to read them, I get an error message.

I think I know the posts you mean (showed up in notifications). I have a suspicion that those specific posts were deleted from the thread, whether at the request of those who posted them, or because of terms of service.

There was a troll. Lol. They and their posts are gone. ✅👏🏼

kimny72 · May 2021

@Gisel2015 if you get this in time, can you please untag the members in your last post? The posts were removed because they were against the terms of service, and there's no need to call that poster back here.

snowflake954 · May 2021

Gisel2015 · May 2021

kimny72 wrote: »

@Gisel2015 if you get this in time, can you please untag the members in your last post? The posts were removed because they were against the terms of service, and there's no need to call that poster back here.

Good morning @kimny72 and sorry for being late. How do you "untag" members in a post? I never did that before, but I don't want to remove snowflake since she is a good contributor to the thread. Besides it seems that she is baaaaack!

snowflake954 · May 2021

Gisel2015 wrote: »

kimny72 wrote: »

@Gisel2015 if you get this in time, can you please untag the members in your last post? The posts were removed because they were against the terms of service, and there's no need to call that poster back here.

Good morning @kimny72 and sorry for being late. How do you "untag" members in a post? I never did that before, but I don't want to remove snowflake since she is a good contributor to the thread. Besides it seems that she is baaaaack!

It's OK. It's all good and you didn't miss much.

SummerSkier · May 2021

back to subject line. I know a lot of us have weathered thru the vaccines but sometimes I still feel like damocletes (sp) sword is hanging over all of us. I don't know whether it's the news media or what's going on in India. I know the US rates are holding steady or dwindling down for now but in my own state it seems like we are holding steading to new cases at the same rate as last summer. So are these all unvaccinated people ?? I do know quite a few who have decided (for their own reasons) not to get vaccinated, and I worry about them and the "opening" up of the nation.

Gisel2015 · May 2021

snowflake954 wrote: »

Gisel2015 wrote: »

kimny72 wrote: »

@Gisel2015 if you get this in time, can you please untag the members in your last post? The posts were removed because they were against the terms of service, and there's no need to call that poster back here.

Good morning @kimny72 and sorry for being late. How do you "untag" members in a post? I never did that before, but I don't want to remove snowflake since she is a good contributor to the thread. Besides it seems that she is baaaaack!

It's OK. It's all good and you didn't miss much.

Darn! I needed some good excitement.

cwolfman13 · May 2021

SummerSkier wrote: »

back to subject line. I know a lot of us have weathered thru the vaccines but sometimes I still feel like damocletes (sp) sword is hanging over all of us. I don't know whether it's the news media or what's going on in India. I know the US rates are holding steady or dwindling down for now but in my own state it seems like we are holding steading to new cases at the same rate as last summer. So are these all unvaccinated people ?? I do know quite a few who have decided (for their own reasons) not to get vaccinated, and I worry about them and the "opening" up of the nation.

Not sure where you live, but I think you have to look at it in context. I'm in NM and our current average of new cases are around 130 per day which is on par for where we were last summer but a far cry from where we were in November at around 3500-4000 new cases per day.

There is a huge difference though between last summer and right now for us...that being, we were basically completely shut down last year at this time. We had some of the stiffest closure and restriction orders in the country and pretty much literally all you could do was go grocery shopping. Fast forward a year, and yes...our new case numbers are on par with where they were last year around this time...but NM is pretty much open...if we had been this open last summer, our numbers would have been through the roof. Some things like large entertainment venues and clubs/bars have cap restrictions, but most places of business now have either no restrictions or cap restrictions around 75-80%. We still have mask mandates for enclosed or otherwise indoor places, but that's about it. I'm feeling almost normal...we have tickets to a NM United soccer game coming up as well as the local baseball team...eating out, kids are back in school full time, kids are having soccer practice and games, we are cleared for interstate travel without quarantine, WFH people are starting to make their way back into offices, etc.

So that means it's working...we have roughly the same number of new cases as last year at this time, but like I said...we were all but completely locked down, and this year we are pretty much open...or I'd say about 90-95% open. We have roughly 60% of the NM population fully vaccinated...so I'd say yeah, the new cases are among the roughly 40% who have decided not to get the vaccine.

Gisel2015 · May 2021

SummerSkier wrote: »

back to subject line. I know a lot of us have weathered thru the vaccines but sometimes I still feel like damocletes (sp) sword is hanging over all of us. I don't know whether it's the news media or what's going on in India. I know the US rates are holding steady or dwindling down for now but in my own state it seems like we are holding steading to new cases at the same rate as last summer. So are these all unvaccinated people ?? I do know quite a few who have decided (for their own reasons) not to get vaccinated, and I worry about them and the "opening" up of the nation.

In California we seem to be doing well and in my county and community most, if not all, of the people have been vaccinated. But I do understand your concern because I feel the same. However, with so many people annoyed about the restriction when we were in the worse of the pandemic in the country, not traying to relax the regulations is a political suicide. That is all that people in government care about it. And of course, the economy of the states need to bounce back after taking a big plunge in the last 15 months.

I know that the CDC has been thinking in relaxing the use of masks indoors, but I do not agree with it and I am not planning to follow it. I still don't go out much (husband in rehab after surgery ), but when I go inside a store or medical office, the use of masks is still required. I just remove the mask as soon as I am outside.

I am not planning to go inside a movie theater, show, or crowded event in a very long time, with or without a mask. And I am having second thoughts about indoor eating too; considering the hot spring and summer in my neck of the woods, I may have to keep cooking or do take out for several more months

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lemurcat2 · May 2021

cwolfman13 wrote: »

SummerSkier wrote: »

back to subject line. I know a lot of us have weathered thru the vaccines but sometimes I still feel like damocletes (sp) sword is hanging over all of us. I don't know whether it's the news media or what's going on in India. I know the US rates are holding steady or dwindling down for now but in my own state it seems like we are holding steading to new cases at the same rate as last summer. So are these all unvaccinated people ?? I do know quite a few who have decided (for their own reasons) not to get vaccinated, and I worry about them and the "opening" up of the nation.

Not sure where you live, but I think you have to look at it in context. I'm in NM and our current average of new cases are around 130 per day which is on par for where we were last summer but a far cry from where we were in November at around 3500-4000 new cases per day.

There is a huge difference though between last summer and right now for us...that being, we were basically completely shut down last year at this time. We had some of the stiffest closure and restriction orders in the country and pretty much literally all you could do was go grocery shopping. Fast forward a year, and yes...our new case numbers are on par with where they were last year around this time...but NM is pretty much open...if we had been this open last summer, our numbers would have been through the roof. Some things like large entertainment venues and clubs/bars have cap restrictions, but most places of business now have either no restrictions or cap restrictions around 75-80%. We still have mask mandates for enclosed or otherwise indoor places, but that's about it. I'm feeling almost normal...we have tickets to a NM United soccer game coming up as well as the local baseball team...eating out, kids are back in school full time, kids are having soccer practice and games, we are cleared for interstate travel without quarantine, WFH people are starting to make their way back into offices, etc.

So that means it's working...we have roughly the same number of new cases as last year at this time, but like I said...we were all but completely locked down, and this year we are pretty much open...or I'd say about 90-95% open. We have roughly 60% of the NM population fully vaccinated...so I'd say yeah, the new cases are among the roughly 40% who have decided not to get the vaccine.

We are opening up a lot too, although not yet to where you are. The Symphony is having some concerts (with limited numbers) later in May and June, restaurants and health clubs are at 50%, farmers markets at 25% (which seems too low to me, but I like to go super early to avoid the crowd/line anyway), small venues (for things like movie theaters, concerts, sports) at 50% and large ones at 25%. Most other things at 50% (except places of worship over 200 is at 25%). I'm ready to finally eat indoors, go to a movie, get symphony tickets (I've been going to stores already, and have been to church/helped enforce the rules at church).

We are having many of our usual summer festivals in some form, and my neighborhood is doing a traditional neighborhood yard sale in June, and we are thinking about a block party -- of course these are outside.

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