Coronavirus prep
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »No one wears masks in the hospitals anymore when we are not seeing patients. I still wear mine because I just feel wrong without wearing it and honestly it has become like a comfort thing for me. I also like how it protects against other illnesses. I haven't gotten a cold or the flu this year like I usually do! But all my coworkers who are doctors don't wear their masks at all. They are okay with doing this since the CDC says it is okay for people to meet with others who are vaccinated or even unvaccinated without masks now. Just noticed this trend the past few months of no mask wearing and wanted to share my observations.
I don't like that others tell me to take my mask off and judge me for still wearing one. Of course everyone wears masks when they are walking about the hospital and seeing patients, but once we go back to our team rooms, no one wears them.
where are you that no one is wearing masks?? I'm in Ontario, Canada and we are under the strictest conditions since this thing began with no end in sight!
We do wear masks around the hospital and when with patients, its just in our team rooms (which is just the attendings and residents) that everyone takes them off. I am in NY. Numbers are going up, but I do not see the same level of panic as before when cases were rising. It feels very different. I just don't appreciate being judged for wanting to keep my mask on at all times even when 6 feet away in the team rooms. I know there is a very small chance I would contract the virus and/or spread it since I am fully vaccinated, but there is still that small chance. I hate feeling stupid for being overly safe.
People still wear masks here in stores though, I just have noticed everyone is way more relaxed (letting masks slide down, not really wearing them, having them hang off face, delivery people who bring my groceries not having them on, etc).
I am right there with you (in spirit 💖). Myself and my on-site staff are vaccinated. But most of our students aren’t. As well as our vendors, etc.
I am weary, too. As I think back over the past year, and how much our knowledge about the virus has evolved, I know there’s so much yet to be discovered, especially with the known variants, variants yet to come, and the vaccine efficacy against them and overall (long-term). Masking and physical distancing is still our best bet to stem community spread.
As the director of my unit, I’m very visible and recognizable on campus (even with few people here). And it’s my responsibility to set the examples regardless of how I feel. I don’t ever want to think I have acted in a way that passed the virus to someone when I could have made a different choice. Campus policies and procedures haven’t changed, either. And won’t, at least until the students have gone home for the summer.10 -
I’m getting a late reaction to the vaccine. I had gotten the first shot (Moderna) a week before last Friday and had some swelling and soreness then, which lasted a couple of days. Then starting yesterday I felt swelling again, and now it’s warm, swollen, red and itching. I have heard that some people do have a delayed reaction.
I had “Moderna Arm,” too. I used a little OTC hydrocortisone cream and it went away in a couple days. It was just a small patch on my upper arm, though nowhere near the injection site (I didn’t connect it to the vaccine at first). I didn’t have it after the second shot, only the first.
Hope it goes away quickly!6 -
looking to have someone explain how the following works.
i was listening to another of the John Campbell YouTubes an he was taking about the blood clot issues with the AstraZeneca vaccine. In it, he was mentioning that when the problem arises there is a dual problem of throwing blood clot combined with low platelet count. What confuses me is that I think if low platelets when I person has an inability to clot? How can those two issues appear at the same time? TIA for any insights.
Yes that would usually be so.
I'm not sure anyone knows how this syndrome works - the anomaly of dual low platelet count with clot formation.
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looking to have someone explain how the following works.
i was listening to another of the John Campbell YouTubes an he was taking about the blood clot issues with the AstraZeneca vaccine. In it, he was mentioning that when the problem arises there is a dual problem of throwing blood clot combined with low platelet count. What confuses me is that I think if low platelets when I person has an inability to clot? How can those two issues appear at the same time? TIA for any insights.
I think what happens is that in some people there is an unusual immune response that produces anti-bodies that react with platelets, causing them to "stick together", which leads to diffuse clots, which then reduces the circulating platelet count. So you have multiple clots as well as thrombocytopenia (low platelets). That is how I am understanding it anyway.4 -
Dropping in with a little “COVID-Vax Arm info from WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-vaccine-rash-side-effect/2021/04/09/7517bad0-97bd-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html3
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looking to have someone explain how the following works.
i was listening to another of the John Campbell YouTubes an he was taking about the blood clot issues with the AstraZeneca vaccine. In it, he was mentioning that when the problem arises there is a dual problem of throwing blood clot combined with low platelet count. What confuses me is that I think if low platelets when I person has an inability to clot? How can those two issues appear at the same time? TIA for any insights.
I think what happens is that in some people there is an unusual immune response that produces anti-bodies that react with platelets, causing them to "stick together", which leads to diffuse clots, which then reduces the circulating platelet count. So you have multiple clots as well as thrombocytopenia (low platelets). That is how I am understanding it anyway.
Thank you Gail. That explanation makes complete sense!
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »Things are not so bad here in Australia that we need to be using all sorts of other venues that are not usually used for medical reasons to be used for now at least. We do have some drive in testing sites just to get lots of people checked but if I'm getting a vaccine I'd rather it in a hospital or medical practice since I have allergies. We keep hitting Covid on the head very fast. Brisbane only had to be locked down for 3 days when the last cases were around. Almost everyone I see is doing the right things with masks etc. We have fantastic people tracing it on the rare time it's in the community.
In the US the large venues are used to get the most shots in arms as soon as possible. In our smaller city there is an arena being used (large enough to hold 10,000 people. There is plenty of parking. You check in at socially distanced stations in the large, open, lobby area then proceed to the arena floor (size of a hockey rink) where you get directed to one of 30 tables where you get your shot (they are processing 500+ people an hour). After your shot there is another area where you are asked to wait for 15 minutes to make sure no reaction. There are medical professionals available in case there are any issues.
This type of process is much more efficient both in terms of getting the shot to people and doing it in socially distancing manner than having people go to a hospital or medical office and weave though narrow halls around the regular patients of the facility. Now if someone has allergies they can go to their doctor and get a shot if they're worried about it, but the mass vaccination sites are much more efficient for most people.
Yes, I got my shot at a CVS and our post-shot waiting area was just an aisle where other people could and were shopping. I drove my brother to get his shot at a different CVS and we did his post-shot waiting outside.
Getting my second (Pfizer) shot Wednesday!6 -
Our Kroger has taken down all their mask required signs at the doors. The state wide mandate ended Monday and people are taking advantage of it. I will still wear a mask until I have had both shots.
Shot 1 is tomorrow morning so we shall see how it goes
Must be nice - we are in a modified "lockdown" and today they are going to announce a month long stay at home order.
(When I say "must be nice' I mean it would be nice to live in a jurisdiction where things getting back to "normal" was actually in sight.)
It may be less a case of things are getting back to normal due to science / actual risk and more a case of politics.
@Athijade: where do you live?3 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Our Kroger has taken down all their mask required signs at the doors. The state wide mandate ended Monday and people are taking advantage of it. I will still wear a mask until I have had both shots.
Shot 1 is tomorrow morning so we shall see how it goes
Must be nice - we are in a modified "lockdown" and today they are going to announce a month long stay at home order.
(When I say "must be nice' I mean it would be nice to live in a jurisdiction where things getting back to "normal" was actually in sight.)
It may be less a case of things are getting back to normal due to science / actual risk and more a case of politics.
@Athijade: where do you live?
Indiana0 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Just popping in with my daily dose of cheery news ... About COVID sufferers suffering from brain disorders after recovery. 😞https://abc7.com/health/1-in-3-covid-19-survivors-suffers-brain-disease-study-finds/10494640/
I've read about that. It seems there is an inflammation in the spinal fluid that is causing it. I believe they found C Reactive protein in areas of the brain that it shouldn't exist. Though, the belief is, over time, it will settle down. I think they believe that antivirals will help over time.
There is a bright side to this. It's my personal opinion that a lot of illnesses have latent viruses behind them -- Fibromyalgia, Lupus, certain cancers, Lyme Disease, possibly Chronic Fatigue. I think in better understanding the source of these stealth viruses that don't go completely away and spending money on them will possibly help many more conditions than just Covid-19 long haulers. The long haulers are very similar to other conditions, it's just brought more attention to it, IMHO.
Edit -- it seems the scientific community is torn on if there might be a viral infection of the brain versus Autoimmune Encephilitis (inflammation of the brain caused by antibodies, but not a viral infection, where basically the body attacks the brain, like in other organ related autoimmune conditions).
My understanding is that Lyme disease is caused by the the bacteriums Borrelia burgdorferi and Borrelia mayonii but I would be delighted if something about this pandemic helped with Lyme disease treatment or prevention.
I was just at Urgent Care last week getting an imbedded tick removed. The doctor and nurse thought a tick bite was a big deal, which I thought was funny, as I have literally had dozens and dozens of tick bites over the years as I live in Massachusetts and spend a lot of time in the woods and fields, and tick mitigation is a normal part of my life this time of year.
I also knew my tick was not the blacklegged tick, which is the one far more likely to carry the disease, and that it had not been attached for very long. (The risk is lower if the tick has been attached for less than 36 hours.) (I don't believe I've ever been bitten by the blacklegged tick - these are much smaller than our usual ticks. I still take mitigation very seriously.)
But it was funny the way the doctor and nurse thought a tick bite was so unusual. The doctor needed to make sure I was wearing clothes out in the woods LMAO!
I've been stung by scorpions and bitten by a brown recluse spider - THAT was a big deal.
ps - I feel the need to clarify in advance, yes LYME disease is a big deal. But getting bitten by ticks that do not carry it is not.2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Our Kroger has taken down all their mask required signs at the doors. The state wide mandate ended Monday and people are taking advantage of it. I will still wear a mask until I have had both shots.
Shot 1 is tomorrow morning so we shall see how it goes
Must be nice - we are in a modified "lockdown" and today they are going to announce a month long stay at home order.
(When I say "must be nice' I mean it would be nice to live in a jurisdiction where things getting back to "normal" was actually in sight.)
It may be less a case of things are getting back to normal due to science / actual risk and more a case of politics.
@Athijade: where do you live?
Indiana
Thanks! Interestingly, your Marion County / Indianapolis is keeping the restrictions in place. (And your governor has to defend his decision.)
https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/coronavirus-indiana-sets-end-for-covid-19-restrictions-to-open-eligibility-to-all-161 -
kshama2001 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just popping in with my daily dose of cheery news ... About COVID sufferers suffering from brain disorders after recovery. 😞https://abc7.com/health/1-in-3-covid-19-survivors-suffers-brain-disease-study-finds/10494640/
I've read about that. It seems there is an inflammation in the spinal fluid that is causing it. I believe they found C Reactive protein in areas of the brain that it shouldn't exist. Though, the belief is, over time, it will settle down. I think they believe that antivirals will help over time.
There is a bright side to this. It's my personal opinion that a lot of illnesses have latent viruses behind them -- Fibromyalgia, Lupus, certain cancers, Lyme Disease, possibly Chronic Fatigue. I think in better understanding the source of these stealth viruses that don't go completely away and spending money on them will possibly help many more conditions than just Covid-19 long haulers. The long haulers are very similar to other conditions, it's just brought more attention to it, IMHO.
Edit -- it seems the scientific community is torn on if there might be a viral infection of the brain versus Autoimmune Encephilitis (inflammation of the brain caused by antibodies, but not a viral infection, where basically the body attacks the brain, like in other organ related autoimmune conditions).
My understanding is that Lyme disease is caused by the the bacteriums Borrelia burgdorferi and Borrelia mayonii but I would be delighted if something about this pandemic helped with Lyme disease treatment or prevention.
I was just at Urgent Care last week getting an imbedded tick removed. The doctor and nurse thought a tick bite was a big deal, which I thought was funny, as I have literally had dozens and dozens of tick bites over the years as I live in Massachusetts and spend a lot of time in the woods and fields, and tick mitigation is a normal part of my life this time of year.
I also knew my tick was not the blacklegged tick, which is the one far more likely to carry the disease, and that it had not been attached for very long. (The risk is lower if the tick has been attached for less than 36 hours.) (I don't believe I've ever been bitten by the blacklegged tick - these are much smaller than our usual ticks. I still take mitigation very seriously.)
But it was funny the way the doctor and nurse thought a tick bite was so unusual. The doctor needed to make sure I was wearing clothes out in the woods LMAO!
I've been stung by scorpions and bitten by a brown recluse spider - THAT was a big deal.
ps - I feel the need to clarify in advance, yes LYME disease is a big deal. But getting bitten by ticks that do not carry it is not.
Yep, Lyme disease is caused by bacteria. However, some ticks spread TBE (tick-borne encephalitis), which is caused by a virus, and there’s a vaccine for that. In Finland the vaccine is included in the public vaccination program for those who live or have a permanent summer cabin or vacation home in high risk areas. I don’t know how widely the virus (or ticks carrying it) is spread around the world, but at least in Finland it’s very localized. By that, I mean some high risk areas listed by the public health officials are specific parts of specific cities, while others are larger areas.4 -
Dropping in with a little “COVID-Vax Arm info from WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-vaccine-rash-side-effect/2021/04/09/7517bad0-97bd-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html
Here's the original New England Journal of Medicine article - and yes that's what my arm looks like
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc21021314 -
Dropping in with a little “COVID-Vax Arm info from WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-vaccine-rash-side-effect/2021/04/09/7517bad0-97bd-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html
Here's the original New England Journal of Medicine article - and yes that's what my arm looks like
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2102131
Patient #10 turned into a zombie, apparently... 🤮2 -
Pennsylvania is opening up vaccines to all adults a week early. I'm not sure why since they hadn't finished with the first responders, etc. yet. Tomorrow I get to start the mad search for an appointment, competing with the 2/3 of the residents of my county who haven't been vaccinated yet.7
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Dropping in with a little “COVID-Vax Arm info from WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-vaccine-rash-side-effect/2021/04/09/7517bad0-97bd-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html
Here's the original New England Journal of Medicine article - and yes that's what my arm looks like
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2102131
Patient #10 turned into a zombie, apparently... 🤮
It wasn't me! can't speak for my husband though.
(although in my case they couldn't tell there was any change
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My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.18 -
It's kind of random here too. If you just wait for when you get the call it's taking forever (for some, others seem to get it sooner than makes sense), but if you keep an eye out there are various options. I got the call reminding me that appt 2 (Pfizer) is Thursday, as scheduled, although I'm going to be paranoid I won't get it bc they run out or something until it actually happens. (I lucked out and got it through a ward event, but I have no idea why wards (there are 50 w/in the city) are getting their own supply to hand out. There have been a variety of different events in different wards near me, with different criteria for who is eligible. If I'd been in the ward next to mine I wouldn't have qualified, and if in the one I lived in until a few years ago it would have run out before I saw it -- I'm still on their mailing list.)
I am working with a woman in Mississippi, and she said it's super easy there, as there's apparently more supply than takers.She just dropped into a Walgreens, as for the flu shot.8 -
My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
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My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Yes, big surprise. But so glad you got the jab, nonetheless. You, of anyone here, appreciate the statistical significance of the findings. 6 cases in 7M shots. Nonetheless, it's reasonable to keep an eye on possible symptoms for the next 2 weeks. I'll be hoping the numbers are with you! FWIW DD got J&J, too. ANd I feel good about it!10 -
My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Yes, big surprise. But so glad you got the jab, nonetheless. You, of anyone here, appreciate the statistical significance of the findings. 6 cases in 7M shots. Nonetheless, it's reasonable to keep an eye on possible symptoms for the next 2 weeks. I'll be hoping the numbers are with you! FWIW DD got J&J, too. ANd I feel good about it!
Thanks yeah I'm not logically worried and I think the pause is an over abundance of caution. My inner hypochondriac will get a bit of a workout for the next week or two though lol.
I'm glad I got the tip they were available and got in under the wire, it probably would be another month or so before I get called to make an appointment otherwise. I'm afraid the media attn to this is just going to further entrench people who were already hesitant
It would be nice if they could figure out why it happens or what else these women might have had in common. But there are more statistically significant side effects to the Tylenol I took than from the jab! 9 -
Haha re: the Tylenol! Yes, me too. Very curious. Since the disorder is characterized by low platelet count (and internal bleeding) in addition to antibody-activated platelets, I am wondering if low platelet count is one precondition. I am also wondering if menstruating women are more likely to be low platelet. Strange that the clots were all in the same place (vein from brain). And the same with AZ. Wondering if it reflects an anatomical attribute. It's all conjecture, obv, and I will be eager to hear actual findings as the investigation progresses.8
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Well, we’re inundated with pharmaceutical prescription ads on tv daily. It seems they spend a good chunk of the ad listing the possible side affects that may occur. Nothing is totally risk free, or 100% effective.
I received my second shot last Thursday. We had Moderna, but if I could have chosen, it would have been J & J. Moot point, because they suspended using it for now, but I’d still take the shot if available, and I had the choice and if I weren’t already vaccinated.
Who knows what will transpire over time? We take risks for a lot of things. Is a +90% effective rate good enough? For me it is. Better than doing nothing.7 -
My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Nate Silver has a valid point if you follow him on Twitter. Basically pointing out that the number of deaths prevented by going forward with the vaccine far outweighs the number of deaths from this blood clot issue. He is right.9 -
They're pausing J&J in the US while they investigate a rare blood clot issue. I found this article really in-depth compared to others with details and links.
Main points:- J&J and AZ vaccines have the same structure, they use an adenovirus vector to combat the spike protein of COVID.
- Reactions were seen in young women (ages 18-48) not typically at risk to these types blood clots.
- Over 7 million doses of J&J have already been administered.
- CVST (Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis) occurs in about five out of a million people.
- CVST causes blood clots and a drop in platelets meaning traditional treatments for clots, like heparin, cannot be used.
- A small number (I read six in another article) adverse reactions (including one death and one hospitalization in critical condition) have been reported.
- When vaccines jump from screened trial participants numbering in the tens of thousands versus millions in the general population, adverse reactions are expected.
- People who had J&J over a month ago are out of the woods, according to Dr. Fauci. (Symptoms occurred between 6-13 days after receiving the shot.) People who have had the shot more recently should be on the alert for symptoms: headache, blurred vision, seizures, loss of control of the body.
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Who here (besides me) bought a pulse oximeter because of COVID?
when myself and a family member both had covid, it was comforting to check my oxygen levels while recovering at home.8 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Nate Silver has a valid point if you follow him on Twitter. Basically pointing out that the number of deaths prevented by going forward with the vaccine far outweighs the number of deaths from this blood clot issue. He is right.
Politics and common sense application of statistics, they are antithetical1 -
Dropping in with a little “COVID-Vax Arm info from WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-vaccine-rash-side-effect/2021/04/09/7517bad0-97bd-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html
Here's the original New England Journal of Medicine article - and yes that's what my arm looks like
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2102131
I had that sort of reaction as well on the shot arm but below where I got the shot, closer to my elbow which is still sore. I also had the intense itching in the hands and feet, a hive like rash that appeared on my arms and forehead, accompanied by more itching. Those were not immediate reactions so I almost didn't think it was connected, but now I'm sure. It has still not completely resolved itself 100% but I think it's getting better. I'm 3 weeks post 2nd shot. I am using Benedryl and cortisone cream which seems to help, at least it lets me sleep which is when the itch feels worse.
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Nate Silver has a valid point if you follow him on Twitter. Basically pointing out that the number of deaths prevented by going forward with the vaccine far outweighs the number of deaths from this blood clot issue. He is right.
But that depends a bit where you are.
Here in Australia AZ is no longer recomendec for under 50's unless in high risk situations.
As we have almost zero community transmission, any number of deaths from clotting issues would outweigh the deaths from Covid.
Of course we will eventually open international borders - but that is the situation now.
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