Women 200lb+, Let's Get The Job Done This June!!!
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I just want to say that on a day where I keep having to go upstairs to get this and then back downstairs to put it away/put it on to wash, my *kitten* is dragging way less than it used to. This is MUCH better than it used to be.
My shoulders haven't forgiven me for hanging the shelf in the garage yesterday, so folding the laundry and putting new sheets on is going to require a lot of resting, but I know I can get it done. Day to day I have a lot less pain, even if my recovery from exercise (like hanging the shelf) is always going to be a lot slower than most people.6 -
I basically do check ins when I have made progress.
68 years old, Height: 5'6"
SW: 266 lbs (Dec 2019)
2/1/2020: 263.6
10/19/2020: 245.4
1/1: 251.2 gained after going back to work and being more sedentary
2/3: 250.4
2/6: 256.6 adjusted according to my new scale.
2/7: 255 -1.6 lbs lost of extra new scale weight
2/27: 254.8 -.2 but I went up to 257 so this is a loss of 2.2 lbs
2/28: 253.4
April low: 255.2
May 1: 257.8
May 20: 255.6
Jun 5: 258.2
Jun 6: 256.8
Jun 19: 255
CW: 254.8 (Jun 26)
1st GW: 220 The lowest weight I got to when I last lost significant weight.
2nd GW: Onderland 1st, maintain for a few weeks then
3rd GW: 186 overweight but not obese
4th GW: 150 lbs. Healthy weight Then evaluate what weight is best for me. I just want to get to a healthy weight for me.
May Goal weight: Under 250.
Weight loss Goals:
1st GW: 220 The lowest weight I got to when I last lost significant weight.
2nd GW: Onderland 1st, maintain for a few weeks then
3rd GW: 186 overweight but not obese
4th GW: 150 lbs. Healthy weight Then evaluate what weight is best for me. I just want to get to a healthy weight for me.
May Goal weight: Under 250.
Goals:
Get 8+ glasses of water, log in calories daily, get enough sleep and stay under my calorie goal. ✓
Up N.E.A.T. ✓ I have been taking the cats for walks in our yard with my youngest and with all the stairs I do going back and forth from my basement home office this has been improving.
Get regular exercise:- 1-2 strength training a week ✓
- 5 days of walking ✓
Wait to have breakfast until I feel hungry while I am working remotely. ✓
Up my vegetables and make sure I have fruit daily ✓
It doesn't seem like a lot relative to my last low but relative to my usual weight variation it is for me. I am really concentrating on water. My son is leaving town today so no more celebratory meals. It is going to hit 105 here on Monday and hot this weekend so not really a good weekend to exercise since we have no access to a pool. Most Seattlites do not have AC in their homes and us included. With 2 outdoor cats it is hard for us to open windows and doors. Last night we got up at 4:00 AM, put the cats in their room and opened up the house and blew out the hot air with fans. Got the house back down to the 70's.7 -
June 2021 stats
39 years old
Height: 5' 7"
SW (6/9/2020): 330.0lbs
Month SW (5/31/21): 218.6lbs
Goal weight: 180lbs
Weigh-in day: Saturdays
6/5: 217.2lbs (-1.4lbs)
6/9: 217.2lbs (1 year anniversary of weight-loss journey) - 112.8lbs lost total
6/12: 215.0lbs (-2.2lbs)
6/19: Missed
6/26: 218.0lbs (+3.0lbs)
6/30: lbs
Total month loss: lbs
Weekly and Monthly Goals:
* Keep logging in MFP ✔✔✔
* Continue the T-25 workouts - Start Beta cycle Week 2 on Monday!!
* Do either a quick yoga, stretch, or walk (Reps to the Rhythm) workout in addition to my T-25 morning workout ✔✔✔
* Get as much sleep as possible ✔✔✔
* Drink more water ✔✔
Mid-year Goal:
* Get to or below 215lbs (by the end of June) - Oops!! Lost it. We'll see if I make it by Wednesday.
Update 6/26/2021:
I have been so stressed these past couple of weeks prepping for my exam that I took yesterday and I ate poorly, but managed to get my exercises in. I have gained weight and it is probably due to both poor eating as well as the increase in weight training, but.... I felt sad. 🤦🏾♀️ I am trying to take my own advice and shake it off though. 😀 I went to a meat market and Sam's club today, and I found the cuts of meat that I wanted, So I am going to fully get back on track. I will be going back to the basics, weighing everything before I eat and not 'guestimating' the amounts as well as eating my protein first etc.
Thanks for the words of wisdom @Spotteddingo. They were well timed!!
Success ladies!! Keep up the awesome work!!
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Hi Everyone,
When I was dong a review of my monthly intake on the charts my sugar and fat is needing to come down. Anyone out there have a homemade recipe for a salad dressing that is under 30 calories per tbs? I know oils, like olive oil or coconut oil are good for you. Been using alot of Kraft low calorie and its adding up.
Also reviewed this great article again on the scale for anyone who is struggling with the uncertainty of the weight ins
https://physiqonomics.com/the-weird-and-highly-annoying-world-of-scale-weight-and-fluctuations
Thanks, will post my final on Wednesday for the month3 -
Due to some excellent planning and time management on my part /s, I finally got the cabbage rolls I prepped for our lunches this week into the oven. At 9 PM on Sunday night. Cool. At least I have the laundry I neglected all weekend to keep me busy while I wait for those rolls to bake.
Really though, I knew I would be losing 5 hours of chore time on Saturday for my spa day, which was excellent, so no regrets there. I also was out a little longer for my walk than I normally would be, since I also stopped at Marshall's to get a new pair of lounge pants. The PJ pants I've had since high school are finally just too damn big - I almost didn't make it to the top of the stairs up to our apartment before they fell down the other night, and this morning I put my phone in my pocket and then I guess moved a little too fast because the momentum of the phone swinging in the pocket dropped them to the ground. The pants did also stretch, it's not just that I've shrank so much, but I'm choosing to take it as a reminder of my progress. I picked up a pair of super-soft, bright millennial pink joggers that fit much better today before hitting up my now-favorite natural area for an hour-long walk (which is apparently everyone else's favorite, too - there were 4 other cars in the tiny parking lot and I passed half a dozen people on the trails).6 -
Hi, everyone! MFP veteran here. I lost 60lbs using MFP almost 10 years ago and, sadly, after kids and hormones, I tacked it back on. I DID however, find out it was related to a genetic issue. I was able to solve my mood issues, but weight is still a huge huge struggle as my body hoards cortisol. Sooo...here we go on mine!
☀️What are your goals for June? To start my workouts again! It's been almost 12 weeks and I was doing Barre3. How about for the summer as a whole? I'm trying to lose 10lbs before my vacation at the end of July. I'll even take 5lbs! Is there anything you're looking forward to that you missed out on last summer? I went to a waterpark! In my swimsuit! My confidence has gone up a bit even though my weight didn't do the opposite. NSV! Any concerns or things that might be a problem this month? School starts for BOTH of my kids and I'm back at a part time job. I didn't have kids last time I did this journey!
I would love to have new friends to add for motivation! Because, all that work going down the drain years ago due to my genetic issue has brought a lot of depression.
If you just look up my username, you can see all my old posts and achievements. It's kind of a low blow to see it all there now and go..ouch...that's long gone...
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Starting weight: 225lb (June 2021)
Goal weight: 185lb
June goal weight: 220lb
Last week: 220.5
CW: 219.5
1lb down - and I've made my June goal weight 😁 few days late checking in. This weekends been crazy bus!
I'm in the process of renovating my new house and it's in the final stages. This week's had a few late nights takeaways but they've been barely eaten - a slice of pizza, half a box of noodles (dog and bf very happy with the leftovers!) Lots of trailing round shops and carrying heavy bags. And flat pack furniture. I don't know how many calories building billy bookshelves uses but it feels like a lot 😂
Hope you've all had a good June - and bring on July now! Aiming for more veg, more movement and a slightly smaller number on the scales
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Last check-in in June!
Age: 49
Height: 5'7"
Starting weight (1/3/20) 296
6/7: 246
6/14:247
6/21:242.2
6/28: 244 (sore muscles)
Goal for July 1: 244
Well, I'm not unhappy at all with this. I did a lot of lifting and moving of things yesterday and went to bed sore from shoulders to thighs, and so I'm not surprised to see the scale go up. But I know it will go back down, too.
Here's to a better month ahead!
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Just finding this group now - will there be a July group? Looking forward to joining!7
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Hi, everyone! MFP veteran here. I lost 60lbs using MFP almost 10 years ago and, sadly, after kids and hormones, I tacked it back on. I DID however, find out it was related to a genetic issue. I was able to solve my mood issues, but weight is still a huge huge struggle as my body hoards cortisol. Sooo...here we go on mine!
☀️What are your goals for June? To start my workouts again! It's been almost 12 weeks and I was doing Barre3. How about for the summer as a whole? I'm trying to lose 10lbs before my vacation at the end of July. I'll even take 5lbs! Is there anything you're looking forward to that you missed out on last summer? I went to a waterpark! In my swimsuit! My confidence has gone up a bit even though my weight didn't do the opposite. NSV! Any concerns or things that might be a problem this month? School starts for BOTH of my kids and I'm back at a part time job. I didn't have kids last time I did this journey!
I would love to have new friends to add for motivation! Because, all that work going down the drain years ago due to my genetic issue has brought a lot of depression. If you just look up my username, you can see all my old posts and achievements. It's kind of a low blow to see it all there now and go..ouch...that's long gone...
how do you manage the hoarding cortisol issue? I think i have some of the same. I have had a difficult time this month, so I'm trying to give myself some grace and maintain. And life gets in the way sometimes, don't beat yourself up too much about what was, just work with what is.
I'll send a friend request!! 4 -
@goal06082021 Congrats on reaching your June GW!4
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@kelMee2 There’s so many possible side effects to the vaccines. My husband is a pharmacy tech received a huge book. While they didn’t believe it affected fertility they couldn’t prove it didn’t either. Even with knowing that I still got the vaccines; too important for me. Even the symptom checking site didn’t ask about cycles or anything beyond COVID symptoms. I had weird cycles prior but after it’s a bit worse. My longest cycle prior was close to 45-50, and after my second it went to 75 days. This month when I finally got it. I had a second one close to when my friend started hers. Is it the vaccine or is it due to being around more females to be in sync with; who knows. I had one week without it this month. Hope it goes back to normal for you real soon!
@uyister Some months are like that; at least for me too. Getting in the exercises is good, especially when we don’t want to.
@Skeebee Yes, it hurts. But you know you’ve been there in the past so it’s hopefully also a good reminder that you can do it. I had done the same thing; but just due to stopped logging, exercise and everything I did to get down to that weight. We can do it again!
I did see 219 this weekend. There might be hope to see 218 by the last day of June 😊
I was starting to see that I might not be as affected by my intolerances. Tomato was one of my worst and a few weeks ago I tried a dipping sauce with it and didn’t get a result. Since I had gotten a huge zucchini with my produce pickup this week I made zucchini sticks to use the tomato sauce I’ve had from another week’s bag. Minor headache but otherwise no nausea nor the major itching I’d have. It's a great sauce so worth it either way. In a few days I’ll try it again. After that I’ll probably start to branch out to other products outside of my weekly pickup to see for other types. It would be great to not worry about it as much in the future. It has helped though to easily tell folks I can’t have something, when I had a lot of food I was expecting to have (event, picnics, etc)
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Age 37
Height: 5' 8"
SW: 224.9
CW: 217.7GW: 160
Weight tracking:
June 4: 212 (-5.7)
June 11: 211.2 (-.8)
June 19: 216.6 (+5.4)
June 28: 212.3 (-4.3)
Well that was an interesting month- I am close to being back to my post stomach bug weight.
I am down 5.6 for the month so I can't really complain at all.
Succeses: I tried the rowing machine and I liked it. Finding the motivation to get up early for a workout is still a struggle though
I have just never been a morning person.
Looking forward to July even though it brings a return to the office life.
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sargemarcori wrote: »SW: 265 (this round. Highest was 295.)
CW: 253.8
June GW: 250 Stretch goal 245
UGW: 150 maybe? That's what I was when I was fifteen (and it didn't feel great) We'll see.
Age: 51
Height: 5'
My weigh-in dates will be Sundays.
June 6: 253.8
June 13 (14th) : 249.8
June 20: 250.2
June 27: 246.2
Forgot on Sunday. Again. But I am *delighted* with that number. Especially since it was even lower today. I will definitely take it! I keep reminding myself that the numbers move fast at first, but it doesn't stay that way. The scale moves in fits and starts and sometimes there are fall-backs before there are wooshes...6 -
Hi Ladies, its been a while since I've posted. This was the month I turned 50, I've been on a health journey since 16 March 2020 and have logged in daily and then lost my rhythm at day 457, and now I'm back to day 3, oops. But a reset has been good for me. I've maintained my weight loss for the past few months, up and down by a few kjs, but its dragging on and I still have my last 10kgs to loose. I'm exercising about 5 to 6 times a week. My running has slowed down because my knee is playing up so I'm trying to cross train.
Today I weighed 67.8 kgs (149.16 lbs) I started at 104.9 kgs (230.78 lbs) I'm a shorty only 157 cm, so still have a way to go to be at goal weight. I do find it hard not to over indulge now that I'm maintaining, their are times I go crazy, but I try to maintain the kj counting strictly during the week.
Our country is experiencing our 3rd wave, we've just gone into another lockdown 4. Gyms have closed. I finally register for the vaccine on 1st of July, thank goodness! We have been wearing masks since March last year, sanitizing and social distancing with constant lockdowns, school opening and closing like a swing door. I think most people are suffering from Covid mental fatigue. How are you finding things where you are? I hope to post weekly again, it was good to go back and read post from familiar ladies, well done to all of you xoxo7 -
@changeforeverlj welcome back and happy birthday, fellow June baby! I'm glad you're getting vaxed this week, I hope you have only mild side-effects.5
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Hello Changeforeverlj,
Great to see you back and great job on the maintenance. Over 81lost pounds !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are amazing!!!!!!
We are slowly opening here in Ontario and just managed to get my second immunization. Totally agree around the mental fatigue especially when we have lost the ability to connect as much with friends face to face. This group has been my life line re helping me to succeed with my health goals.
Look forward to reading your next post too!
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azalea4175 wrote: »Hi, everyone! MFP veteran here. I lost 60lbs using MFP almost 10 years ago and, sadly, after kids and hormones, I tacked it back on. I DID however, find out it was related to a genetic issue. I was able to solve my mood issues, but weight is still a huge huge struggle as my body hoards cortisol. Sooo...here we go on mine!
☀️What are your goals for June? To start my workouts again! It's been almost 12 weeks and I was doing Barre3. How about for the summer as a whole? I'm trying to lose 10lbs before my vacation at the end of July. I'll even take 5lbs! Is there anything you're looking forward to that you missed out on last summer? I went to a waterpark! In my swimsuit! My confidence has gone up a bit even though my weight didn't do the opposite. NSV! Any concerns or things that might be a problem this month? School starts for BOTH of my kids and I'm back at a part time job. I didn't have kids last time I did this journey!
I would love to have new friends to add for motivation! Because, all that work going down the drain years ago due to my genetic issue has brought a lot of depression. If you just look up my username, you can see all my old posts and achievements. It's kind of a low blow to see it all there now and go..ouch...that's long gone...
how do you manage the hoarding cortisol issue? I think i have some of the same. I have had a difficult time this month, so I'm trying to give myself some grace and maintain. And life gets in the way sometimes, don't beat yourself up too much about what was, just work with what is. I'll send a friend request!!
I have to do a detox once a quarter and not take any methylated supplements. Lots of meditation and no caffeine or alcohol. However, after 2 years, I was able to get up to one drink a month now if I plan it right. 🥰2 -
sarah12277 wrote: »
@Skeebee Yes, it hurts. But you know you’ve been there in the past so it’s hopefully also a good reminder that you can do it. I had done the same thing; but just due to stopped logging, exercise and everything I did to get down to that weight. We can do it again!
Thanks! I think that is the struggle like .. I've already done this. I don't want to do it again! 🤣😭 Awesome job this weekend btw!!!
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I basically do check ins when I have made progress.
68 years old, Height: 5'6"
SW: 266 lbs (Dec 2019)
2/1/2020: 263.6
10/19/2020: 245.4
1/1: 251.2 gained after going back to work and being more sedentary
2/3: 250.4
2/6: 256.6 adjusted according to my new scale.
2/7: 255 -1.6 lbs lost of extra new scale weight
2/27: 254.8 -.2 but I went up to 257 so this is a loss of 2.2 lbs
2/28: 253.4
April low: 255.2
May 1: 257.8
May 20: 255.6
Jun 5: 258.2
Jun 6: 256.8
Jun 19: 255
CW: 254.8 (Jun 26)
1st GW: 220 The lowest weight I got to when I last lost significant weight.
2nd GW: Onderland 1st, maintain for a few weeks then
3rd GW: 186 overweight but not obese
4th GW: 150 lbs. Healthy weight Then evaluate what weight is best for me. I just want to get to a healthy weight for me.
May Goal weight: Under 250.
Weight loss Goals:
1st GW: 220 The lowest weight I got to when I last lost significant weight.
2nd GW: Onderland 1st, maintain for a few weeks then
3rd GW: 186 overweight but not obese
4th GW: 150 lbs. Healthy weight Then evaluate what weight is best for me. I just want to get to a healthy weight for me.
May Goal weight: Under 250.
Goals:
Get 8+ glasses of water, log in calories daily, get enough sleep and stay under my calorie goal. ✓
Up N.E.A.T. ✓ I have been taking the cats for walks in our yard with my youngest and with all the stairs I do going back and forth from my basement home office this has been improving.
Get regular exercise:- 1-2 strength training a week ✓
- 5 days of walking ✓
Wait to have breakfast until I feel hungry while I am working remotely. ✓
Up my vegetables and make sure I have fruit daily ✓
It doesn't seem like a lot relative to my last low but relative to my usual weight variation it is for me. I am really concentrating on water. My son is leaving town today so no more celebratory meals. It is going to hit 105 here on Monday and hot this weekend so not really a good weekend to exercise since we have no access to a pool. Most Seattlites do not have AC in their homes and us included. With 2 outdoor cats it is hard for us to open windows and doors. Last night we got up at 4:00 AM, put the cats in their room and opened up the house and blew out the hot air with fans. Got the house back down to the 70's.
This is fantastic progress! 4lbs in a month is a big deal to me as well. Congrats & keep it up!!2 -
@AlexandraFindsHerself1971 isn’t it a great feeling being able to do things more easily than before?
@uyister hope your stress lessens soon!
@goal06082021 congrats on your loose pants and meeting your June goal!
@sargemarcori congrats on reaching your initial June goal!
@changeforeverlj welcome back! I live in PA, USA and stopped wearing my mask at work the 1st week of June. It is such a freeing feeling! I can wear lip gloss and bigger earrings again.
Hope everyone is having a good week! 🙂3 -
Age: 31
Height: 5’6”
SW: 222 (Feb ‘21)
June SW: 182.1
June GW: 174
UGW 155
June 4: 180.2
June 11: 180.6
June 18: 177.6
June 25: 176.8
Final June weigh in: 175.9
I didn’t make my (pretty aggressive) June goal, but this was a good transition month for me to go from the first four months of pretty fast weight loss to the slightly slower reality of what I’m calling Phase 2. I’m determined to make to UG, no matter how long it takes - and I still lost 6lbs this month, which is pretty great!
See you guys in July!6 -
Well, the scale didnt move much in June - only 4 lbs - but I have to remind myself that I'm eating well, sticking to my calorie limits, and recording everything. And that, along with 4 lbs, really is something. Plus the month has been rough and I've stuck with this and not given in to eating anything I could grab so should consider it a success.
I still need to move more and drink more water (ick), but I'm in a good, sustainable pattern food-wise, so I will celebrate this!8 -
@NEhandweaver 4 lbs in a month is excellent progress, that's a pound per week. You should not be trying to lose faster - at best you will burn out and regain, at worst you could do permanent damage to your body. You did great this month, and it sounds like you're on track to bid adieu to another 4 lbs in July. You can do it!5
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Last weigh in of June
Saturday Weigh ins
SW 230 (27.11.20)
June Starting Weight 207.4
June 5 - 205.7
June 12 - 204
June 19 - 203.4
June 26 - 201
June 30 - 200.4
GW June 202 so made my goal plus 1.4
Happy with this month. Back to work yesterday, only teaching one course for the remainder of the semester .
Had a good break. Got my second shot on Monday so fully vaccinated
Plan to keep up the things that are working for me including;
Walking
Logging everything
Keep connected to our community daily
Water
Be positive
Biggest difference I see happening
My diet mindset is shifting from diet to healthy lifestyle
Let go of stuff I have little control over
Have reconnected with a friend from 30 years ago that has been so much fun
Realize I have missed connecting with people so much due to the Pandemic
Goal for July 195
Celebrating with you all in your victories whatever they may be.This journey isnt easy but so important 5 -
Hi I’m 53 and 5’6”.
Starting weight: 257.8 lbs Jan 14, 2021
June Start Weight: 228.0
June Goal Weight: 224.0
Ultimate Goal Weight: 170
June 1: 228.0
June 5: 226.3 (-1.7)
June 12: 229.3 (+3.0)
June 19: 227.1 (-2.2)
June 26: 226.4 (-0.7)
June 30: 226.5 (+0.1)
Didn’t meet my monthly goal but still lost 1.5 lbs so that’s good. I guess eating out 3 times in my birthday week really threw me off. I still haven’t gotten back to where I was before gaining 3 lbs that week. Looking forward to July!🙂5 -
Last Weigh In Of The Month
SW 241.2 (April 3, 2021)
June 13 - 232
June 19 - 231.6
June 26 - 228.8
June 30 - 228.6
I am down 12.6 pounds since April. I would like to be down to 223 by the end of June. Pros: Walking and eating healthy
Cons: Drink more water5 -
June Challenge Weigh In Day
Age 44
Height 5'4"
SW 249 3/2020
CW 218.8
GW for June 218
UGW 145
6/1: 222 lbs
6/8: 222 lbs
6/15: 224 lbs - accepted; off rails a bit yesterday
6/22: 221.8
6/30: 218
Total month loss: 4
1 inch off hips Friday. The rest stayed the same.
Weekly goals:
-Continue logging on MFP
-Work out 5x per week – 3 cardio & 2 strength
-64 oz of water each day
Using today's as the official weigh in today. I did see 217 yesterday but wanted the last day of the month. Weight just melted off the last week. Not too sure on the differences but taking it and running with it.
@changeforeverlj I'm in Ohio, USA. We've been opening up rather fully since the beginning of the month. Masks are mostly optional. At first I was still wearing one and the last week I've slowly opted to not. I'm vaccinated and keep seeing the cases go down so I was getting more comfortable and very quickly was forgetting. The state has had large pushes to get folks vaccinated; including having a lottery for 5 adults to win 1 million and 5 students to win college scholarships. We're a fairly political state so I don't think the lottery swayed as many people as desired; but they were trying everything within their capabilities to push those at are more in the middle. I think we'll end up being 50% vaccinated. I think the last I saw was at 48%. Some offices have been open for a while, mine goes back completely next month.6 -
Age: 68
Height 5'2"
SW: 252 (2016)
Restart: 218.8 (April 2021)
CW: 206.8
Started this month at 209.6. I knew this would be a rough month because of all the company we have had from out of state. Still, very pleased with overall average of -4lbs per month. Found out 2 weeks ago that is am going to have knee replacement surgery August 20 so getting my walks in is almost nil. I am still shooting to be in Onederland by that date. Everyone is doing great this month! See you all in July!5 -
Final June 2021 stats
39 years old
Height: 5' 7"
SW (6/9/2020): 330.0lbs
Month SW (5/31/21): 218.6lbs
Goal weight: 180lbs
Weigh-in day: Saturdays
6/5: 217.2lbs (-1.4lbs)
6/9: 217.2lbs (1 year anniversary of weight-loss journey) - 112.8lbs lost total
6/12: 215.0lbs (-2.2lbs)
6/19: Missed
6/26: 218.0lbs (+3.0lbs)
6/30: 218.0lbs
Total month loss: -0.6lbs (A loss is a loss) ☺
Weekly and Monthly Goals:
* Keep logging in MFP ✔✔✔
* Continue the T-25 workouts - Start Beta cycle Week 2 on Monday!!
* Do either a quick yoga, stretch, or walk (Reps to the Rhythm) workout in addition to my T-25 morning workout ✔✔✔
* Get as much sleep as possible ✔✔✔
* Drink more water ✔✔
Mid-year Goal:
* Get to or below 215lbs (by the end of June) - This will now be July's goal.
Update 6/30/2021:
Even though I gained and lost less than a pound of weight over all, I realized that I met all my Garmin challenge goals and earned about 7 badges including some I was not even aware that I was earning!!! So, I consider this month a huge win!!!
See you lovely ladies in next months thread!!
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