August 2021 Monthly Running Challenge
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Happy 6.0 @skippygirlsmom 🎂🎈🎉0
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Happy Birthday @skippygirlsmom! That sign was definitely meant for you! Also you can't be 60 - not possible at all!1
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Happy birthday @skippygirlsmom !
Re: monthly questions. My motivation is keeping my diabetes under control. I was lucky in a way that almost immediately after my diagnosis, my vision went all wonky due to blood sugar fluctuations, which is a common short-term effect of rapidly lowering blood glucose when it’s been very elevated for a long time. Not being able to see for four months really brought it home to me that diabetes is the most common cause of blindness in the US, the most common cause of amputation, one of the most common causes of kidney failure, heart failure, and stroke, and that the majority of diabetes have a loss of sensation due to neuropathy in their extremities within 8 years. In other words, this S word be real! It’s funny what I am willing to do to keep from going blind. I feel like many diabetics think of it as just a number that they can’t really control that won’t really affect them. I knew differently from the beginning because of what happened to my vision.
It’s a common saying that discipline is more lasting than motivation, but I feel like that depends on the motivation. Very undisciplined people somehow manage to feed their children every day, get up and go to work, and so on, because they have the motivation of not wanting their children to be taken by CPS or lose their jobs.
Having said that, my trick for discipline is to never accept “I don’t feel like it today,” as an excuse without asking myself, “Do you foresee a time reasonably soon when you will feel like it more than you do right now?” For example, it was stupid hot today and we were under a heat alert. But we are supposed to be under an unbroken heat alert until the end of next Thursday, so saying it’s too hot today means admitting I don’t plan to run at all this week. It’s either the heat or the treadmill, and I prefer the heat. I am tired from caretaking for my mother, but that doesn’t have an end in sight, so skipping runs from it isn’t an option, I need to figure out how to make the life I have right now work. This also means that being sick, being injured, and so on, are good reasons to take a break. In those cases the answer is yes, someday I will no longer be sick or injured, and I should wait until that time.
What is my reward? Well, I get to eat almost like a person without diabetes, when I have run a lot. And also I like my body, I like seeing the outdoors, I like feeling like a sporty and athletic person, I like competing. I also reward myself with non-food treats such as a nice manicure.
I manage stress by interacting with nature, such as feeding birds, watching the baby raccoons playing in my yard. Someone on this forum had a challenge once to start each day with thankfulness and I have kept it up ever since - no matter how cramped my schedule is or how bad the weather is, I go outside and give thanks for the beautiful day given to me, and look around for things to appreciate. I also pray, read, and do art. If things get bad I go to my husband and demand a hug!
My body doesn’t handle stress at all well. First my blood sugar shoots straight up thanks to the blocking action of cortisol on insulin. It’s very obvious - for example if I have had a fight with my husband, my normal breakfast which usually has my bg back below 100 within an hour will put me in the danger zone. I also have lupus and extended stress will lead to a flare, the first sign being petichiae on my feet due to vasculitis, followed by the world’s worst headache.5 -
Yeehaw it’s stupid hot again! Memphis is under a heat advisory from Sunday to Thursday night. Usually we have heat advisories which go from 10 am to 8 pm everyday, but this one is unbroken, including the nights. Last night the heat index never dropped below 90 all night. It was uncanny to step outside into what is usually the cool gray light right before dawn and feel like you just opened the oven door.
Today we set a new record in stupid running, the local station when we hit the road showed 100 degrees and 128 F heat index. That is up from our last week’s running record of 122. Last week it was just us running and some dudes who work at Fleet Feet. Today, we passed one of the Fleet Feet dudes and he was walking. We passed one other runner - a tiny woman who looked like she was maybe in her 60s wearing long pants and a long sleeved shirt, just chugging along. We have seen her before, this is a thing she does. She looked… fine? I have no idea what her secret is, since I looked like I had just jumped in a swimming pool.
Good news, my husband didn’t have any signs of heat exhaustion today. We ran 5k very very slowly, and walked an extra mile.
This was supposed to have been a speedwork day. As they say, man plans and God laughs! 😂7 -
@Scott6255 Yeah, I give up on speed work during the summer too. I’m not getting a good workout trying to do speed work in this. Existing outside is a workout in this.
@rheddmobile Those temps are nuts. I’m glad you guys took it easier today and your husband made it.
@skippygirlsmom Happy Birthday!!
I am enjoying reading everyone’s responses to the monthly questions. It seems that several of us use routines/discipline more than motivation to keep moving forward.4 -
Happy birthday @skippygirlsmom!! How wonderful someone put out a display for you.
Congrats on your 6.0 for 60, which you make look very good.
I have no real answers on the Olympic athlete monthly question. It never occurred to me until a few years ago that I could be any kind of athlete, so just anyone saying that word to describe me is a gold medal feeling to me. I would try so many sports if I had it to do over. I saw some stories about rock climbing as a new Olympic sport and that would be so cool to pursue if I could go back in time.
@swenson19d it's good to see you. I'm sorry you are struggling. Did you end up having another surgery recently? You have been so strong through all of your medical issues, I can only imagine how difficult it is to find any motivation with all the pain and issues and loss that you've dealt with. Kudos to you for seeking out help.
1) How do you find motivation and discipline? What is your reward?
I have had a hard time with running motivation lately for sure. It just hasn't felt good and I don't have any kind of racing or competitive spirit in me right now. Much of it is that I have been pursuing a hiking goal that takes up my time and energy resources in a major way. So I do have motivation and discipline, just not or this right now. I guess what I find motivating is accomplishing something new that I thought was a reach for me. Like running at all when I started, then running a half, and then a full - which I still can hardly believe I did. And then running Spartan races, and now hiking the 46 high peaks. Just saying to myself, you did this hard thing (and I admit, to other people too) is a reward. And the friendships I've built in pursuing these things is a huge part of both the motivation and reward. I wouldn't have done any of it without the shared experiences, encouragement and companionship.
2) How do you manage stress? How does your body react to stress?
Oh boy, this is so much a part of why I do any of this. Work stress tends to consume me if I am by myself and if I don't leave it completely for a while every day through a run, walk, hike, etc. I have to walk away. One of the biggest indicators I get is that hot, throbbing feeling in my temples and I know that I need to find a way to relieve the pressure. Hiking has been huge for me this way - being unreachable for hours at a time and then getting to that summit and seeing the vast expanse of incredible natural beauty has such a way of making the stress go away. But running with my friends on a regular basis is the thing that probably keeps me most sane and not living in my own head all the time.
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Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
08/01/21 :::: 0.0 :::: 0.0
08/02/21 :::: 3.0 :::: 3.0
08/03/21 :::: 1.8 :::: 4.8
08/04/21 :::: 5.5 :::: 10.3
08/05/21 :::: 3.1 :::: 13.4
08/06/21 :::: 0.0 :::: 13.4
08/07/21 :::: 5.0 :::: 18.4
08/08/21 :::: 0.0 :::: 18.4
08/09/21 :::: 2.6 :::: 20.9
08/10/21 :::: 3.2 :::: 24.1
Another hot day here too, but I hesitate to compare to 128 degree heat indices. I was short on time so I skipped yoga this morning and forced myself out for a morning run to get it done while it was slightly less hot. I was still sweating buckets after taking my shower after that (anyone remember George on Seinfeld saying his shower "didn't take" and he was still sweating - this is what I always think of and say, lol). I was glad to get it done in the am because it was so very muggy and hot after work. I walked Stella in the woods for shade but we were both too hot.
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Nice improvement @julieannegannon !
@Tramboman I'll take some of that rain if you want to send it my way. Hope you "feel" better tomorrow.
Nice run @Scott6255 . I have a hard time judging pace too, so I totally understand.
@polskagirl01 Glad you were encouraged by the fact that others are struggling too. Good luck on your race and I hope your family will cheer on the bikers.
@skippygirlsmom Happy Birthday! I believe that sign was for you too!
Nice run @sweetdaisy13 !
@rheddmobile I thought it was hot here today. Nothing like that. Glad there were no signs of heat exhaustion today. I don't know how anyone could run in pants and long sleeves in that...maybe they have some sort of cooling properties?
Glad you were able to get your run in early @katharmonic !
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1 Aug - 0.00 Run 1.0 Walk - driveway laps, barely beat the heavy downpour
2 Aug - 3.30 Run 1.0 Walk - Tempo run - 2 hours mowing the lawn
3 Aug - 2.50 Run 1.0 Walk - Recovery Run on the driveway - Weed eat at mom's in the afternoon
4 Aug - 6.20 Run 1.0 Walk - Birthday run on the driveway - played singles tennis earlier
5 Aug - 2.50 Run 1.0 Walk - Long Interval Run on the driveway
6 Aug - 0.00 Run 1.0 Walk - Driveway walk this evening - doubles tennis this morning
7 Aug - 10.0 Run 1.0 Walk - Long Run with Speed Play
8 Aug - 0.00 Run 1.0 Walk - Driveway walk to keep the streak going
9 Aug - 2.75 Run 1.0 Walk - Tempo Run - driveway laps
10 Aug - 2.50 Run 1.0 Walk - Recovery Run - driveway laps
29.75/100 miles running 10.0/31 miles walking
Worked 8 - 5 again today, so did my run after work. I decided to run on the driveway again, even though the temp was 88°F with a feel like of 94°F. Since it was a recovery run, I figured I could just walk a bit more to keep my HR down. My plan says that the recovery run should be in Zone 1, but we all know that isn't going to happen with hills, so I try to keep it out of Zone 3. Today, I succeeded, with only one second being in above my zone 2 limit.
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katharmonic wrote: »
@swenson19d it's good to see you. I'm sorry you are struggling. Did you end up having another surgery recently? You have been so strong through all of your medical issues, I can only imagine how difficult it is to find any motivation with all the pain and issues and loss that you've dealt with. Kudos to you for seeking out help.
Hmm, I don't know if I've had another surgery since the last one updated here, perhaps. The rod (femoral de-rotation) was redone because my femur rotated back to twisted... but before that I had the labrum repaired, femoral head and acetabulum reshaped (FAI). So maybe. I've had 5 so it kinda runs <-- 😀 together. Last surgery was 7-1-20 almost a month after losing Alex. I have to see the psychologist to manage chronic pain and they are helping me with grief. I am still taking violin lessons and going to school for that bachelor in nursing. I probably will find something in administration or psychology with a masters, something I can lay flat now and again LOL! Dh and I meet a group from his work for dinner, 2-3 hours out socializing and I can barely stand without painful cramps in my rodded leg. Any wah... haha! y'all run for me!
It's nice checking in here and seeing everyone!
@skippygirlsmom Happy birthday! I think you should have run 4.5 miles 😉9 -
Happy belated birthday @skippygirlsmom !
Distance Log:
Aug 2: 4.17 miles
Aug 4: 4.80
Aug 6: 5.94
Aug 9: 5.74
Aug 11: 2.75
Total: 23.40/60 miles
Had to stop early today due to swiftly approaching thunderstorms! We need the rain so I'll try not to complain too much. The older two have XC tonight so I'm considering going with them and getting a few more miles in. It'll be a lot hotter, but it might motivate them a little!7 -
8-1 7k measy (between moderate and easy)
8-2 rest
8-3 7k measy
8-4 7k easy
8-5 rest
8-6 7k measy
8-7 7k moderate
8-8 7k measy
8-9 rest
8-10 4k easy
8-11 4k moderate
August Total: 50k
August Goal: 150k
Cloudy, mid 70s F, and REALLY humid this morning. Reminded me of being back in the South. Had already decided to do 4 k, so went a little quicker today.
Happy birthday, @skippygirlsmom !!! Should have run 2.9.
When you pop in here claiming your December 2021 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?
PUT THE FUN BACK IN THE RUN!
Return to a good running weight of 175 lbs (second attempt)
2021 Races:
6/26 Direction Up 5k, Solon, OH 31:48 chip; 31:59 Garmin; 53d overall; 2d male 65 and over
7/17 Run of the Ox 5k, Mantua, OH 32:19 Garmin; 44th overall; 3d place male 60 and over
9/18 5k Run and Roll, Aurora, OH7 -
August 1 – 6.33
August 2 – 5.35
August 3 – 5.28
August 4 – 5.27
August 6 – 6.04
August 7/8 – 5.01
August 9 – 4.83
August 11 – 5.59
It was about 10 degrees warmer this morning than it has been for the past few weeks. The saving grace was some sprinkles around miles 2 and 3.
Happy Birthday @skippygirlsmom! So glad the neighborhood decorated for you!
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Happy Wednesday everyone. Today for me was a cross training day. So as usual I choose to walk the length of a 10K to get my body conditioned for the length of the 10K. Last night Yuma had a dust storm and flash flood warnings and the storms were starting to die down at 3:00. So I didn’t dare drive out there in that mess. So I walked around close to my home so if the storms started up again I could quickly get home. The great thing about the storm it lowered the temperature to be in the 80’s this morning at 3:00 am. I found the temperature agreeable.
August totals
8/01 6.23 mile run
8/02 rest
8/03 rest
8/04 6.24 mile walk
8/05 2.31 mile run
8/06 6.43 mile walk
8/07 2.39 mile run
8/08 5.00 mile walk
8/09 rest
8/10 1.18 mile run
8/11 6.89 mile walk
Total miles walked 24.56
Total miles run 12.11 with 37.89 miles left to go.
Tomorrow my training calls for 30 minute easy run which includes 6 minutes cadence drill and 4 minutes of acceleration/gliders. Hopefully it won’t storm tonight so tomorrow I can have dry ground to run on.7 -
Aug Total: 14.3/60 miles
8/4: 3 miles
8/7: 3.1 miles
8/8: 5.1 miles
8/11: 3.1 miles
Still hot but I got my run in before the heat advisory kicked in at 8am. I really took it easy today. I focused on my stride feeling light and easy. It took me down to a 10:49 min/mile pace, which I held exactly for 3 miles. Super consistent! I have a hard time judging pace and almost solely rely on perceived effort unless I am doing a specific tempo or speed workout that asks for a certain pace so being able to be that consistent was nice.
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8/2 – 6.01
8/3 – 5.01
8/5 – 3.01
8/6 – 6.22
8/8 – 6.01
8/8 – 3.39 biking
8/10 – 6.01 Happy 60th birthday to me
8/11 – 3.03
35.3 of 70 miles
Thank you all for the awesome birthday wishes, it was a great day (if I don’t include work LOL). I think this is the first year I said WTF how did I get this old, but my life is good and for the most part of very healthy so I’m happy to see 60. It’s the first year in a few that Skip isn’t moving into a dorm on my birthday, so decided to wait until Friday this year.
@rheddmobile I wanted to complain about the heat but 90 feels like even at night is insane. Can’t imagine long pants and sleeves
I walked out the door this morning and was like someone hit me with a wet wall. Cut my run to 3 miles, I just couldn’t by .5 miles the sweat was already in my face.
@swenson19d so much love and hugs for you always. “runs together” I see what you did there. Ha ha next year it’s 4.5 love it or 2.9 as @Tramboman suggested ha ha!
My stupid car is still in shop (day 7) but they were nice enough to send me the estimate, hey I didn’t want to buy the car again just get it fixed…. $2800 naturally it’s out of warranty, so I’m back to those beans and cornbread @quilteryoyo I won’t have it to take Skip to school so I had to rent an SUV, luckily I get our company discount so I don’t have to pay some of the horrifying prices I’ve heard. I have a free day and a free upgrade but neither applies to the SUV, which is actually funny since I take pretty much take any car on the lot for the same price through work. Most of her stuff is in a storage unit down there and if it wasn't for the futon I could probably rent something smaller but was only a couple dollars more for the SUV.
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@skippygirlsmom Happy Birthday!!!
Not running today
Taper
But I did buy new pair of black Kalenji (Decathlon) running shorts, same as the ones I already had, although I see this model has a tiny inside key pocket instead of the back zipper pocket. I don't use the pocket much anyway. Maybe I'll do an easy mile tomorrow to try them out.
Monthly questions, although I don't really feel qualified to answer them...
Motivation/discipline/reward:
I guess I am just strongly internally motivated to do things I've decided to do. I know some personalities do better with outside accountability, or sticking to a plan, but for me, it's more reminding myself that this is what I decided to do, and its the right thing for me for health/fitness, stress relief, time alone in nature. I do sometimes have to trick myself to get going, etc, but by now I know I'm going to do it anyway, unless I have a good reason not to... and I know I'll usually feel much better after I run.
I like consistency, so that, and the other things (fitness etc) are the reward. Races are rewards. Getting to run in cool places is a reward, cool gear or a food treat can be a reward, although I don't really think of it as "running to earn" a brownie or whatever.
Stress:
I probably don't handle it well, and tend to hold on to and carry a lot of it around. Maybe that contributes to my crazy when it comes to running. So things like tiredness, headaches, grumpiness occur as a result. Running helps, as does sunlight, nature, alone time, breaking up tasks into smaller, manageable pieces, saying "no" to extra work, etc.
Olympics:
In my childhood, I wanted to be a figure skater, like most of the other girls my age. Now, I look up to the "G.O.A.T"s like Biles and Kipchoge, who are really in a class of their own and making their own decisions, rather than reacting to what everyone else thinks they should do.7 -
An easy 6 miles this morning. I decided to take short walk breaks every mile while I sip water. It was warm and really humid for Phoenix. I kept getting gnats stuck to me and my watch was spinning around my wrist. LOL It was like 80 degrees (woo!) and almost 80% humidity (boo!).
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Happy Wednesday!
Nice easy 9.02miles this morning. It was overcast so perfect weather to 🏃♀️ .
Total miles MTD - 44.89 miles6 -
sweetdaisy13 wrote: »11 mile hilly trail run, average pace of 10:37 min per mile and 1,592 feet of elevation.
August cumulative:
25.2/100 miles
3,146/10,000 feet of elevation
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Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
08/01/21 :::: 0.0 :::: 0.0
08/02/21 :::: 3.0 :::: 3.0
08/03/21 :::: 1.8 :::: 4.8
08/04/21 :::: 5.5 :::: 10.3
08/05/21 :::: 3.1 :::: 13.4
08/06/21 :::: 0.0 :::: 13.4
08/07/21 :::: 5.0 :::: 18.4
08/08/21 :::: 0.0 :::: 18.4
08/09/21 :::: 2.6 :::: 20.9
08/10/21 :::: 3.2 :::: 24.1
08/11/21 :::: 4.1 :::: 28.2
My friend made the argument to me that we should skip going to HM/marathon group tonight for speedwork because a) it's supposed to be a 40-minute tempo run and b) it's supposed to be 90 degrees. SOLD! So we ran at 7 am instead. Still massively humid at that hour but I'm sure much better than going to the track tonight.6 -
You guys, I finally had a doctor (allergist) tell me I shouldn't be running - does this make me a real runner now? 😁
Note: I will still be running, and we all know it - including the doctor, who had her say but then made the treatment plan with me still running
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@polskagirl01 that silly doctor. Skip will tell you a doctor's kiss of death with me is telling me I can't run, I find another doctor who is more interested in me and what I need to do that will find ways to help me.5
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polskagirl01 wrote: »You guys, I finally had a doctor (allergist) tell me I shouldn't be running - does this make me a real runner now? 😁
Note: I will still be running, and we all know it - including the doctor, who had her say but then made the treatment plan with me still running
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DuchessDiona wrote: »polskagirl01 wrote: »You guys, I finally had a doctor (allergist) tell me I shouldn't be running - does this make me a real runner now? 😁
Note: I will still be running, and we all know it - including the doctor, who had her say but then made the treatment plan with me still running
Keep safe!
Yes. It's a new doctor for me, and she started on this after only hearing that I "run regularly" and have been having issues "lately". All of my previous doctors, who knew me better, were very supportive. After I used the word "marathons", I think she sensed my crazy and still had to finish her emphatic speech, but then gave me what I was asking for - treatment to help me live the active running life I choose.6 -
1 Aug - 0.00 Run 1.0 Walk - driveway laps, barely beat the heavy downpour
2 Aug - 3.30 Run 1.0 Walk - Tempo run - 2 hours mowing the lawn
3 Aug - 2.50 Run 1.0 Walk - Recovery Run on the driveway - Weed eat at mom's in the afternoon
4 Aug - 6.20 Run 1.0 Walk - Birthday run on the driveway - played singles tennis earlier
5 Aug - 2.50 Run 1.0 Walk - Long Interval Run on the driveway
6 Aug - 0.00 Run 1.0 Walk - Driveway walk this evening - doubles tennis this morning
7 Aug - 10.0 Run 1.0 Walk - Long Run with Speed Play
8 Aug - 0.00 Run 1.0 Walk - Driveway walk to keep the streak going
9 Aug - 2.75 Run 1.0 Walk - Tempo Run - driveway laps
10 Aug - 2.50 Run 1.0 Walk - Recovery Run - driveway laps
11 Aug - 0.00 Run 1.0 Walk - Treadmill walk between shopping and church
29.75/100 miles running 11.0/31 miles walking
My neighbor and I took my mom on a little semi-local adventure today. We went to the Gray Fossil site and museum, about an hour from home. It is an active archeology site that was only discovered in the year 2000 during some road work. It's interesting to see the fossils of animals I didn't realize were in this area - like a species of camel and elephant. Afterwards, we had lunch at Cheddar's and then spent a lot of the afternoon shopping. I talked them into Fleet Feet where I bought a new sports bra and a new pair of shoes. Pictures tomorrow, if I don't forget and I have time.
Anyway, we got home at 4:40 and mom and I needed to leave t 5:30 for church. So, I came home, changed clothes, and went for a quick mile (3.9 mph) walk on the treadmill, so I wouldn't sweat. I then changed and was off again. At least I did something today - plan had called for a Foundation Run or cross training. I'll count this as XT.6 -
8-1 7k measy (between moderate and easy)
8-2 rest
8-3 7k measy
8-4 7k easy
8-5 rest
8-6 7k measy
8-7 7k moderate
8-8 7k measy
8-9 rest
8-10 4k easy
8-11 4k moderate
8-12 rest
August Total: 50k
August Goal: 150k
Golf today instead of running. It's low 70s F and icky, so running will not be missed.
When you pop in here claiming your December 2021 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?
PUT THE FUN BACK IN THE RUN!
Return to a good running weight of 175 lbs (second attempt)
2021 Races:
6/26 Direction Up 5k, Solon, OH 31:48 chip; 31:59 Garmin; 53d overall; 2d male 65 and over
7/17 Run of the Ox 5k, Mantua, OH 32:19 Garmin; 44th overall; 3d place male 60 and over
9/18 5k Run and Roll, Aurora, OH6 -
Happy Thursday 😁 Today was a 30 minute run with 6 minutes cadence drill and 4 minutes acceleration and gliders. My top hr was 162 bpm which has come down from the 180 bpm. So I think my body is getting conditioned to running. I started running and after awhile I checked my pace and I was in the 10:00 so I slowed down so I could last the whole 30 minutes without stopping. I did it. My mind was telling me at first saying at certain points you can stop but I pushed past that and continued running. I feel really good about it. If it wasn’t for my music motivating me along to keep moving I don’t think I could do it. The music helps to push back the I can’ts. I listen to Christian contemporary techno music. Yes Christian music even has techno.
August totals:
8/01 6.23 miles run
8/02 rest
8/03 rest
8/04 6.24 miles walk
8/05 2.31 miles run
8/06 6.43 miles walk
8/07 2.39 miles run
8/08 5.00 miles walk
8/09 rest
8/10 1.18 miles run
8/11 6.89 miles walk
8/12 2.44 miles run
Total miles walked 24.56
Total miles run 14.55 with 35.45 miles to go
Well tomorrow is another cross training day in which I will walk. Hope everyone has a fantastic day out there reaching your goals.7 -
Great run @julieannegannon ! One of my playlists if Southern Gospel.....probably on the complete opposite spectrum from Christian contemporary techno music.3
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August 1 – 6.33
August 2 – 5.35
August 3 – 5.28
August 4 – 5.27
August 6 – 6.04
August 7/8 – 5.01
August 9 – 4.83
August 11 – 5.59
August 12 – 4.08
I didn’t get out in time to see any of the meteor showers this morning although it was still dark when I headed out the door at 6:00 am. I was treated to a beautiful pink sky and sunrise though as I shuffled along. When I got back home I drug out my yoga mat and did a 30-minute video on the porch before it gets too hot to be outside.
Way to advocate for you, your health and your sanity @polskagirl01!
@katharmonic – wise decision to run in the cooler morning instead of evening.
@quilteryoyo – I’ve never been to the Gray fossil site although I went to a wii bowling fundraiser a few years back that was held inside one of their buildings. I think the Gray fair is in a couple of weeks. I always loved going to that as a teen and still enjoy walking around to see all the entries and displays.
Way to push through the run @julieannegannon! Did I read some place that you run at 3:00 am? I listen to Christian contemporary music often but have never heard the techno version!
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