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Fitness and diet myths that just won't go away
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@Speakeasy76
Yes. I meant "any person." That does include you as an individual, but doesn't mean ONLY you. Kind of like when Smokey Bear says, "Only YOU can prevent wildfires," he is not singling you out personally.@Speakeasy76
Yes. I meant "any person." That does include you as an individual, but doesn't mean ONLY you. Kind of like when Smokey Bear says, "Only YOU can prevent wildfires," he is not singling you out personally.@Speakeasy76
Yes. I meant "any person." That does include you as an individual, but doesn't mean ONLY you. Kind of like when Smokey Bear says, "Only YOU can prevent wildfires," he is not singling you out personally.
n@Speakeasy76
Yes. I meant "any person." That does include you as an individual, but doesn't mean ONLY you. Kind of like when Smokey Bear says, "Only YOU can prevent wildfires," he is not singling you out personally.
I actually wasn't referring to your post...unless you're one person with 2 different MFP profiles.@Speakeasy76
Yes. I meant "any person." That does include you as an individual, but doesn't mean ONLY you. Kind of like when Smokey Bear says, "Only YOU can prevent wildfires," he is not singling you out personally.
I actually wasn't referring to your post, but thanks for the clarification
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I am so sick *of articles that start "According to science..." or "Studies show..." or "Doctors say...". And why are they always "5 foods"??
*Never eat these 5 foods if you want to lose weight!
*Always eat these 5 foods if you want to live longer!
*These 5 foods will rev your metabolism!
*The same 5 foods will kill you!
And my current favorite: "Eating a hot dog takes away 36 minutes of healthy life!"*
* https://www.pcrm.org/news/blog/eating-hot-dog-takes-away-36-minutes-healthy-life#:~:text=Eating a hot dog takes away 36 minutes,as well as their impact on the environment.
Well, it had to happen...
"Eating This Classic Sandwich Can Add 33 Extra Minutes to Your Life"
https://www.firstforwomen.com/posts/health/foods-minutes-study0 -
I am so sick *of articles that start "According to science..." or "Studies show..." or "Doctors say...". And why are they always "5 foods"??
*Never eat these 5 foods if you want to lose weight!
*Always eat these 5 foods if you want to live longer!
*These 5 foods will rev your metabolism!
*The same 5 foods will kill you!
And my current favorite: "Eating a hot dog takes away 36 minutes of healthy life!"*
* https://www.pcrm.org/news/blog/eating-hot-dog-takes-away-36-minutes-healthy-life#:~:text=Eating a hot dog takes away 36 minutes,as well as their impact on the environment.
Well, it had to happen...
"Eating This Classic Sandwich Can Add 33 Extra Minutes to Your Life"
https://www.firstforwomen.com/posts/health/foods-minutes-study
For anyone who doesn’t want to click the article - it’s PBJs.
The texture of a PBJ keeps me away from them. But they do have grain, protein, and fruit. Not that horrible nutritionally. As long as you’re keeping the jelly to a reasonable limit.
And ya. You’re not gonna live forever if you only eat PBJs 24/7/365.
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Used to love PBJ's as a kid, but these days when I'm trying to increase protein, a PBJ is practically worthless to me, as it's mostly carbs. Think I've had one in the last six months.0
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I love PBJ sandwiches. They're not good macros or anything but I will eat them all day long. ...But only on toast.3
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I used to be very confused by the concept of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, until I realised that jelly is something different to what it is in the UK
(This was about 20 years ago)3 -
I used to be very confused by the concept of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, until I realised that jelly is something different to what it is in the UK
(This was about 20 years ago)
In addition, many of us will use "jelly" and "jam" interchangeably when even by American usage they are technically different! (I call them peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, but I almost always make them with jam.) No wonder it's confusing!
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I know that by ' jelly' Americans mean jam or something very similar to jam
Not jelly as we know it in Australia.
Peanut butter and jam don't get put in sandwiches ( or on toast, crumpets etc), together here , you would have one or the other,not as a combination.0 -
paperpudding wrote: »I know that by ' jelly' Americans mean jam or something very similar to jam
Not jelly as we know it in Australia.
Peanut butter and jam don't get put in sandwiches ( or on toast, crumpets etc), together here , you would have one or the other,not as a combination.
That was what confused me, being in the UK.
Once I realised what it meant, I tried it. I can see the appeal, but I think it's an acquired taste.0 -
ahhhh, the days of coming home from school and having 2 PB&J's as a snack!
And I liked using preserves actually, to through another type in there. Orange marmalade too.
jellies, jams, preserves, marmalades - oh my!4 -
You mean peanut and Concord grape isn't a universally-beloved flavor combination??? 🤯
(me, to me: well, when you put it like THAT...)1 -
paperpudding wrote: »I know that by ' jelly' Americans mean jam or something very similar to jam
Not jelly as we know it in Australia.
Peanut butter and jam don't get put in sandwiches ( or on toast, crumpets etc), together here , you would have one or the other,not as a combination.
In the US, jelly is made with fruit juice only, jam is made with the fruit (usually crushed or in very small pieces), preserves are larger pieces. But they're all a similar product and many people here use the terms somewhat interchangeably.
https://www.britannica.com/story/whats-the-difference-between-jam-jelly-and-preserves
I do make PBJs with some frequency for my kids, but my personal taste prefers peanut butter only. Or peanut butter and nutella, especially with thin apple slices.
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@penguinmama - in Australia (and UK) Jelly is that dessert thing made from flavoured gelatine crystals disolved in hot water and set in the fridge - what you call jello, I think.0
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paperpudding wrote: »@penguinmama - in Australia (and UK) Jelly is that dessert thing made from flavoured gelatine crystals disolved in hot water and set in the fridge - what you call jello, I think.
Hmmmm - slices of jelly/jello on bread with peanut butter.....
Ya - that doesn't sound right, not for the flavors/colors that are coming to mind.
Might as well put a dollop of banana pudding on there.
And pudding (not paper) there is actually ?0 -
Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but the quote, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger..."
Just my 2 cents...
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One of the staples of school lunch for me was PBJ with grape or strawberry jelly. It definitely had to be jelly, not jam, I used to gag on the bits of fruit. I've seen PB sandwiches paired with all kinds of something sweet - my cousins used to eat them with bananas, and I had friends that used honey. I really like the taste of honey with PB, but the honey makes the bread texture weird
I also had a friend who ate PB with sweet pickles
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I must be an outlier because I love PB sandwiches and jelly sandwiches but not PB and jelly together.1
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One of the staples of school lunch for me was PBJ with grape or strawberry jelly. It definitely had to be jelly, not jam, I used to gag on the bits of fruit. I've seen PB sandwiches paired with all kinds of something sweet - my cousins used to eat them with bananas, and I had friends that used honey. I really like the taste of honey with PB, but the honey makes the bread texture weird
I also had a friend who ate PB with sweet pickles
I think I lived almost exclusively on PB and honey sandwiches for about a year, when I was very very broke. I've never had PB and jam or jelly. I didn't grow up with peanut butter and I think eating so much of it for a while put me off because I'm not crazy about it.
I had a former coworker who ate PB and mayo sandwiches.0 -
One of the staples of school lunch for me was PBJ with grape or strawberry jelly. It definitely had to be jelly, not jam, I used to gag on the bits of fruit. I've seen PB sandwiches paired with all kinds of something sweet - my cousins used to eat them with bananas, and I had friends that used honey. I really like the taste of honey with PB, but the honey makes the bread texture weird
I also had a friend who ate PB with sweet pickles
I think I lived almost exclusively on PB and honey sandwiches for about a year, when I was very very broke. I've never had PB and jam or jelly. I didn't grow up with peanut butter and I think eating so much of it for a while put me off because I'm not crazy about it.
I had a former coworker who ate PB and mayo sandwiches.
The last time we allowed my husband to fix any meal for himself was about six years ago.
He made himself a peanut butter, Mayo, ketchup, relish, lettuce, and hot sauce sandwich.
That was it. Kitchen closed.
He can make his own Keriug coffee. That’s it. And he even screws that up occasionally.5 -
MargaretYakoda wrote: »One of the staples of school lunch for me was PBJ with grape or strawberry jelly. It definitely had to be jelly, not jam, I used to gag on the bits of fruit. I've seen PB sandwiches paired with all kinds of something sweet - my cousins used to eat them with bananas, and I had friends that used honey. I really like the taste of honey with PB, but the honey makes the bread texture weird
I also had a friend who ate PB with sweet pickles
I think I lived almost exclusively on PB and honey sandwiches for about a year, when I was very very broke. I've never had PB and jam or jelly. I didn't grow up with peanut butter and I think eating so much of it for a while put me off because I'm not crazy about it.
I had a former coworker who ate PB and mayo sandwiches.
The last time we allowed my husband to fix any meal for himself was about six years ago.
He made himself a peanut butter, Mayo, ketchup, relish, lettuce, and hot sauce sandwich.
That was it. Kitchen closed.
He can make his own Keriug coffee. That’s it. And he even screws that up occasionally.
Sounds like he did that on purpose to get out of any cooking duties.
Recently, I discovered that my brother-in-law doesn't know how to turn on the oven in his own house. I'm attributing that to a conscious effort to make sure he's not asked to ever help in the kitchen.9 -
MargaretYakoda wrote: »One of the staples of school lunch for me was PBJ with grape or strawberry jelly. It definitely had to be jelly, not jam, I used to gag on the bits of fruit. I've seen PB sandwiches paired with all kinds of something sweet - my cousins used to eat them with bananas, and I had friends that used honey. I really like the taste of honey with PB, but the honey makes the bread texture weird
I also had a friend who ate PB with sweet pickles
I think I lived almost exclusively on PB and honey sandwiches for about a year, when I was very very broke. I've never had PB and jam or jelly. I didn't grow up with peanut butter and I think eating so much of it for a while put me off because I'm not crazy about it.
I had a former coworker who ate PB and mayo sandwiches.
The last time we allowed my husband to fix any meal for himself was about six years ago.
He made himself a peanut butter, Mayo, ketchup, relish, lettuce, and hot sauce sandwich.
That was it. Kitchen closed.
He can make his own Keriug coffee. That’s it. And he even screws that up occasionally.
Did he enjoy the sandwich? Some people like odd flavor combinations. Years ago I would have thought the idea of salted chocolate or caramel would seem odd. Now I love it. Of course I also like kimchi and sauerkraut. Growing up we made pizza often. My mom would get together with friends and order a whole bunch of frozen crusts, large cans of sauce, and very large packages of cheese. She would make smaller portions of the sauce and the cheese and keep them in the freezer. My sister and I came up with some really odd combinations that we actually did enjoy. There were one or two that were bad ideas. There's a local pizza shop that has unusual toppings, and one of my favorites used to be roasted red potatoes, caramelized onions, and bacon. It's good with cheddar also, but the rare times I'll go get pizza these days I leave off the extra cheese because that one slice is already several hundred calories.
I don't keep mayo in the house, but I can almost imagine the sandwich your husband made being OK without the mayo. Maybe it would be good with some kimchi.1 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »One of the staples of school lunch for me was PBJ with grape or strawberry jelly. It definitely had to be jelly, not jam, I used to gag on the bits of fruit. I've seen PB sandwiches paired with all kinds of something sweet - my cousins used to eat them with bananas, and I had friends that used honey. I really like the taste of honey with PB, but the honey makes the bread texture weird
I also had a friend who ate PB with sweet pickles
I think I lived almost exclusively on PB and honey sandwiches for about a year, when I was very very broke. I've never had PB and jam or jelly. I didn't grow up with peanut butter and I think eating so much of it for a while put me off because I'm not crazy about it.
I had a former coworker who ate PB and mayo sandwiches.
The last time we allowed my husband to fix any meal for himself was about six years ago.
He made himself a peanut butter, Mayo, ketchup, relish, lettuce, and hot sauce sandwich.
That was it. Kitchen closed.
He can make his own Keriug coffee. That’s it. And he even screws that up occasionally.
Sounds like he did that on purpose to get out of any cooking duties.
Recently, I discovered that my brother-in-law doesn't know how to turn on the oven in his own house. I'm attributing that to a conscious effort to make sure he's not asked to ever help in the kitchen.
He definitely didn’t do it to keep from any cooking duties. He did it because he has dementia and had slipped to the point where making a sandwich was too many steps.
He used to be an excellent cook. LOVED cooking. Which…. (to put it mildly) became a problem early on in the dementia process since he adored making Thanksgiving dinner. And had completely f’d it up. And adored all other forms of cooking.
My solution was to join our local American Legion and we would bring a salad and pie and enjoy the dinner there with family and friends.
And we removed the knobs from the stove for a few years.MargaretYakoda wrote: »One of the staples of school lunch for me was PBJ with grape or strawberry jelly. It definitely had to be jelly, not jam, I used to gag on the bits of fruit. I've seen PB sandwiches paired with all kinds of something sweet - my cousins used to eat them with bananas, and I had friends that used honey. I really like the taste of honey with PB, but the honey makes the bread texture weird
I also had a friend who ate PB with sweet pickles
I think I lived almost exclusively on PB and honey sandwiches for about a year, when I was very very broke. I've never had PB and jam or jelly. I didn't grow up with peanut butter and I think eating so much of it for a while put me off because I'm not crazy about it.
I had a former coworker who ate PB and mayo sandwiches.
The last time we allowed my husband to fix any meal for himself was about six years ago.
He made himself a peanut butter, Mayo, ketchup, relish, lettuce, and hot sauce sandwich.
That was it. Kitchen closed.
He can make his own Keriug coffee. That’s it. And he even screws that up occasionally.
Did he enjoy the sandwich? Some people like odd flavor combinations. Years ago I would have thought the idea of salted chocolate or caramel would seem odd. Now I love it. Of course I also like kimchi and sauerkraut. Growing up we made pizza often. My mom would get together with friends and order a whole bunch of frozen crusts, large cans of sauce, and very large packages of cheese. She would make smaller portions of the sauce and the cheese and keep them in the freezer. My sister and I came up with some really odd combinations that we actually did enjoy. There were one or two that were bad ideas. There's a local pizza shop that has unusual toppings, and one of my favorites used to be roasted red potatoes, caramelized onions, and bacon. It's good with cheddar also, but the rare times I'll go get pizza these days I leave off the extra cheese because that one slice is already several hundred calories.
I don't keep mayo in the house, but I can almost imagine the sandwich your husband made being OK without the mayo. Maybe it would be good with some kimchi.
He did enjoy the sandwich. But never in a million years would have made anything like it prior to the dementia.
I can assure you, he wasn’t attempting any adventurous combinations. He was just doing his best at the time.
Editing to add: When he was younger he invented an awesome pizza combo:
Cheese and smoked oysters.
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For the record, I (the guy) am the chef of my family, while my wife (the gal) made it clear to me when we got engaged that she would have to be held at gun point to ever do any cooking, she'd rather clean the bathrooms. I said deal, and we've never looked back.
Coming or going to work has caused us to have some pretty random meal times (evening meal as early as 3, as late as 10), but she's held true to her desire to never enter the kitchen so long as I'm alive to prepare food. (I've taught the kids how to prepare a number of meals for those nights where I'm working the 2-10 swing shift and can't help them out at all.)3 -
For the record, I (the guy) am the chef of my family, while my wife (the gal) made it clear to me when we got engaged that she would have to be held at gun point to ever do any cooking, she'd rather clean the bathrooms. I said deal, and we've never looked back.
Coming or going to work has caused us to have some pretty random meal times (evening meal as early as 3, as late as 10), but she's held true to her desire to never enter the kitchen so long as I'm alive to prepare food. (I've taught the kids how to prepare a number of meals for those nights where I'm working the 2-10 swing shift and can't help them out at all.)
Realistically, we could start a whole separate thread about "gender role myths that just won't go away"**. This one would be a point of overlap between the two.
** Let's don't. 😉2 -
PB and Marmite is delicious.
So delicious they sell it as a product now...
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Bella_Figura wrote: »PB and Marmite is delicious.
So delicious they sell it as a product now...
Oh man…. I gotta try that!
Also? Have you ever tried marmite on wheat thins? Just a tiny dip of a corner of the cracker. Amazing. Mmmmmm
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Only professional or elite athletes have resting heart rates below 60bpm and are healthy with such a low HR. Anyone else, even if asymptomatic (other than HR), should back off exercise until they see a doctor/cardiologist.**
Professional or elite athletes are the only ones who should do X or more hours of exercise daily/weekly, and if someone else does many hours of exercise daily, it's necessarily a sign that they have exercise bulimia, hypergymnasia, or some other exercise-related psychological dysfunction. (In a recent thread, X seemed to be two: Two hours of exercise daily was too much, or at least a major warning flag.)
Professional and elite athletes train at maximum intensity all the time.
** Of course anyone who's *worried* about their low heart rate should talk with their doctor, even if no other symptoms. 3rd parties seem willing, even eager, to talk them into being worried, in some cases. I've personally been told here on MFP that my AM resting heart rate is too low, that it can't be as low as I say it is, etc. . . . and it's not all that low, just high 40s/low 50s. My doctors, OTOH, are pretty thrilled about it.7 -
When I was active duty my resting HR was 52 thanks to all the cardio the military loves to do, though it's been pretty consistent at 62 since I rejoined civilian life and have been a slacker when it comes to cardio.3
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I remember eating a lot of PBJ sandwiches while growing up, usually with potato chips (a good sweet and salty combo) and a glass of milk.
Another favorite was eating Fluffernutter sandwiches which are made with Peanut Butter and Marshmallow Fluff. Yum!
I still enjoy PBJ sandwiches now and again, but sometimes if I want something less sweet I use cream cheese instead of peanut butter.0 -
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