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Well, my arrogant, conspiracy-theoried, anti-vax family ended up getting Covid. The preventative Ivermectin treatments they've been bragging about taking for months now failed to stop infection and failed to cure. Just found out my mom is in the hospital with Covid pneumonia. She's been sick for 10 days, and really bad for half that time, but they were too stubborn and proud to go in sooner. Nobody had the guts to tell me earlier - probably because of the disdain they showed me when I got vaxxed and received that evil microchip. Hoping for the best possible outcome. And yes, I'm pissed off!
I'm so sorry! Hope your mom makes a full recovery and no one else in the family needs hospital care.7 -
Well, my arrogant, conspiracy-theoried, anti-vax family ended up getting Covid. The preventative Ivermectin treatments they've been bragging about taking for months now failed to stop infection and failed to cure. Just found out my mom is in the hospital with Covid pneumonia. She's been sick for 10 days, and really bad for half that time, but they were too stubborn and proud to go in sooner. Nobody had the guts to tell me earlier - probably because of the disdain they showed me when I got vaxxed and received that evil microchip. Hoping for the best possible outcome. And yes, I'm pissed off!
I'm so sorry! Hope your mom makes a full recovery and no one else in the family needs hospital care.
Me too! And they are still sticking to their talking points, even now. I'm still the crazy one. But honestly, I'm willing to just let it all go, let them believe what they want, let them rant and rave, go along with it, whatever...just so long as everyone makes it. I don't care if anyone "learns their lesson" or "has a change of heart" or whatever. Just survive it and let's move on from this please! Political beliefs are not worth dying for. Ugh. So tired of this.25 -
Well, my arrogant, conspiracy-theoried, anti-vax family ended up getting Covid. The preventative Ivermectin treatments they've been bragging about taking for months now failed to stop infection and failed to cure. Just found out my mom is in the hospital with Covid pneumonia. She's been sick for 10 days, and really bad for half that time, but they were too stubborn and proud to go in sooner. Nobody had the guts to tell me earlier - probably because of the disdain they showed me when I got vaxxed and received that evil microchip. Hoping for the best possible outcome. And yes, I'm pissed off!
I'm so sorry! Hope your mom makes a full recovery and no one else in the family needs hospital care.
Me too! And they are still sticking to their talking points, even now. I'm still the crazy one. But honestly, I'm willing to just let it all go, let them believe what they want, let them rant and rave, go along with it, whatever...just so long as everyone makes it. I don't care if anyone "learns their lesson" or "has a change of heart" or whatever. Just survive it and let's move on from this please! Political beliefs are not worth dying for. Ugh. So tired of this.
jenilla1, so sorry for your pain. I’m wishing for the very best outcome for your family and you❤️ Stay strong!
Covid becoming a political issue was one of the worst things that has ever happened in the United States,13 -
Well, my arrogant, conspiracy-theoried, anti-vax family ended up getting Covid. The preventative Ivermectin treatments they've been bragging about taking for months now failed to stop infection and failed to cure. Just found out my mom is in the hospital with Covid pneumonia. She's been sick for 10 days, and really bad for half that time, but they were too stubborn and proud to go in sooner. Nobody had the guts to tell me earlier - probably because of the disdain they showed me when I got vaxxed and received that evil microchip. Hoping for the best possible outcome. And yes, I'm pissed off!
I'm so sorry! Hope your mom makes a full recovery and no one else in the family needs hospital care.
Me too! And they are still sticking to their talking points, even now. I'm still the crazy one. But honestly, I'm willing to just let it all go, let them believe what they want, let them rant and rave, go along with it, whatever...just so long as everyone makes it. I don't care if anyone "learns their lesson" or "has a change of heart" or whatever. Just survive it and let's move on from this please! Political beliefs are not worth dying for. Ugh. So tired of this.
Multiple hugs to you, Jenilla. I admire your compassion. Anger still dominates my own views of my family's covid vaccine responses.7 -
missysippy930 wrote: »Covid becoming a political issue was one of the worst things that has ever happened in the United States,
I've read stories about people turning against health care workers, committing acts of violence and vandalism, because they're seen as perpetuating the "myth" of Covid. Also accusations of nurses killing Covid patients to pad the death count. It all just looks so insane. Especially when there is no longer any need for so many people to be seriously ill if they'd just get vaccinated.
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@jenilla1 I hope your mom recovers.
I got my booster for Pfizer on the first possible day (local center had closed due to lack of demand, just reopened for boosters). After a very bad 24 hrs I feel fine now. But the third shot did give me a worse reaction than either of the first two, chills, high heart rate, just generally feeling awful, and arm so sore I couldn’t lift it. Fine now though. And considering my age and diabetes I am very grateful to have the shot!
My mom’s caretaker is not at all careful. She claims she is, but she also has a large group of people she hugs at church on the regular, she hangs out with a niece who goes to public school and sports events, she shops all the time, and sees more people in a day than I have been close to in the last year and a half. So chances are good I will end up exposed to Covid. I will take all the protection I can get.19 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »Have seen some interesting questions regarding why US vax/testing mandates while impacting federal workers, workers with over 100 employees they do not cover welfare or SNAP recipients. Have not really found any good reason why this isn't on the table.
It's a shame, since in the US the lower income population makes up a large unvaxed demographic.
It is sad but typically that demographic in the USA is underserved when it comes to physical and mental health issues.
Sadly in my 6 state region this demographic seems suceptable to social media and local fear factors that are band MFP subjects.3 -
My partner got his Pfizer booster Friday and was slammed with fatigue for about 12 hours Saturday. His arm was sore to the touch. I think he had more soreness and a little less fatigue with the previous two shots.
My mom had Moderna, which I understand from a conversation (have not fact checked) lasts longer and the booster is not needed as soon as for Pfizer (?)4 -
kshama2001 wrote: »My partner got his Pfizer booster Friday and was slammed with fatigue for about 12 hours Saturday. His arm was sore to the touch. I think he had more soreness and a little less fatigue with the previous two shots.
My mom had Moderna, which I understand from a conversation (have not fact checked) lasts longer and the booster is not needed as soon as for Pfizer (?)
The CDC is saying that Moderna is holding up a little better than Pfizer. They have not yet approved the booster for Moderna, so only people who got Pfizer are currently eligible. They are telling people who got Moderna or J&J to not worry right now, and boosters will be approved at some point.
I got my booster yesterday morning. Feeling okay today, I came into work. My arm is very sore and I have a slight headache, but nothing that Advil and coffee can't help. We'll see as the day goes on.10 -
I mentioned getting Pfizer #3, but right after I got it.
Effects over the next day or two: Maybe a little more tired than I'd usually expect from other stuff I was doing or not doing (but maybe I was just paying more attention?). Slightly sore arm for a couple of days, like I could feel it if I laid in bed on that side, but it didn't hurt enough to need to lay on another side.
No big deal. Same, maybe a little less effect than, Pfizer #2.10 -
While I'm waiting for my booster to be approved (J&J), I got my flu shot at the VA last week. PSA: Tis the season...8
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kshama2001 wrote: »My partner got his Pfizer booster Friday and was slammed with fatigue for about 12 hours Saturday. His arm was sore to the touch. I think he had more soreness and a little less fatigue with the previous two shots.
My mom had Moderna, which I understand from a conversation (have not fact checked) lasts longer and the booster is not needed as soon as for Pfizer (?)
Yes on Moderna. Each shot is 100 mg whereas Pfizer is 30 mg each. Israel was a pure Pfizer nation hence a massive data source. I think mg is the correct unit of measurement. When Moderna booster is needed their CEO said it may be just 50 mg.2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »My partner got his Pfizer booster Friday and was slammed with fatigue for about 12 hours Saturday. His arm was sore to the touch. I think he had more soreness and a little less fatigue with the previous two shots.
My mom had Moderna, which I understand from a conversation (have not fact checked) lasts longer and the booster is not needed as soon as for Pfizer (?)
Why was this flagged for abuse?
I haven't heard anything about when Moderna boosters will be available.4 -
kshama2001 wrote: »My partner got his Pfizer booster Friday and was slammed with fatigue for about 12 hours Saturday. His arm was sore to the touch. I think he had more soreness and a little less fatigue with the previous two shots.
My mom had Moderna, which I understand from a conversation (have not fact checked) lasts longer and the booster is not needed as soon as for Pfizer (?)
Why was this flagged for abuse?
I haven't heard anything about when Moderna boosters will be available.
People are weird. Shrug.9 -
Just want to share a personal experience with Covid and the vaccine:
I’m 28, F, healthy BMI, active and generally healthy. I had Covid in January, 2021…I was pretty sick for 1-2 weeks but definitely didn’t need medical attention. I’ve felt sicker before. (Some symptoms were weird though, it was definitely a rollercoaster of sorts where one symptom would resolve and another would begin. Also, 9 months later my taste/smell are still NOT the same). Recovered fine (I thought).
Once I was able to (April 2021) I received my first dose of Moderna. I was SUPER SICK for a day or two, like at least as sick as I felt when I had Covid if not worse. I was surprised (my logic had been that since I’d had Covid already the vaccine wouldn’t really have any symptoms; apparently the opposite is true). But I felt better after after a few days.
In May I had the second shot…again felt terrible but it passed much more quickly this time.
However, not long after getting the second vaccine I started having some symptoms that were kind of concerning. My heart would start pounding to the point where I felt like I was going to blackout, and I’d get dizzy and need to put my head down. These symptoms have progressed to where I’d wake up in the middle of the night with my heart racing and pounding, with actual pain in my chest. Needless to say I’ve now stopped drinking almost all caffeine (prior to this I used to be able to drink 4-5 cups of coffee a day with no negative effects). If I have just a cup I feel like I might have an actual heart attack. So I’m honestly very concerned.
It’s would be impossible to say at this point whether this is due to having had Covid, or the vaccine, or some combination of both… but I just want to share this because beforehand I was very frustrated with the “vaccine hesitant,” but honestly now that on a daily basis I feel like my heart might arrest I think I’ve changed positions and am a little more understanding of those who are still a little hesitant (due to health concerns, not political reasons, etc.)
Anyway I’ve been following this thread for awhile and just wanted to share a personal
account. I’m trying to get an appointment with a GP so I can get this checked out asap.22 -
MarieBuch10 wrote: »Just want to share a personal experience with Covid and the vaccine:
I’m 28, F, healthy BMI, active and generally healthy. I had Covid in January, 2021…I was pretty sick for 1-2 weeks but definitely didn’t need medical attention. I’ve felt sicker before. (Some symptoms were weird though, it was definitely a rollercoaster of sorts where one symptom would resolve and another would begin. Also, 9 months later my taste/smell are still NOT the same). Recovered fine (I thought).
Once I was able to (April 2021) I received my first dose of Moderna. I was SUPER SICK for a day or two, like at least as sick as I felt when I had Covid if not worse. I was surprised (my logic had been that since I’d had Covid already the vaccine wouldn’t really have any symptoms; apparently the opposite is true). But I felt better after after a few days.
In May I had the second shot…again felt terrible but it passed much more quickly this time.
However, not long after getting the second vaccine I started having some symptoms that were kind of concerning. My heart would start pounding to the point where I felt like I was going to blackout, and I’d get dizzy and need to put my head down. These symptoms have progressed to where I’d wake up in the middle of the night with my heart racing and pounding, with actual pain in my chest. Needless to say I’ve now stopped drinking almost all caffeine (prior to this I used to be able to drink 4-5 cups of coffee a day with no negative effects). If I have just a cup I feel like I might have an actual heart attack. So I’m honestly very concerned.
It’s would be impossible to say at this point whether this is due to having had Covid, or the vaccine, or some combination of both… but I just want to share this because beforehand I was very frustrated with the “vaccine hesitant,” but honestly now that on a daily basis I feel like my heart might arrest I think I’ve changed positions and am a little more understanding of those who are still a little hesitant (due to health concerns, not political reasons, etc.)
Anyway I’ve been following this thread for awhile and just wanted to share a personal
account. I’m trying to get an appointment with a GP so I can get this checked out asap.
You started to experience these additional symptoms in May or not long after? But is is only now you want it checked out ASAP? Or did I misunderstand?4 -
tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »MarieBuch10 wrote: »Just want to share a personal experience with Covid and the vaccine:
I’m 28, F, healthy BMI, active and generally healthy. I had Covid in January, 2021…I was pretty sick for 1-2 weeks but definitely didn’t need medical attention. I’ve felt sicker before. (Some symptoms were weird though, it was definitely a rollercoaster of sorts where one symptom would resolve and another would begin. Also, 9 months later my taste/smell are still NOT the same). Recovered fine (I thought).
Once I was able to (April 2021) I received my first dose of Moderna. I was SUPER SICK for a day or two, like at least as sick as I felt when I had Covid if not worse. I was surprised (my logic had been that since I’d had Covid already the vaccine wouldn’t really have any symptoms; apparently the opposite is true). But I felt better after after a few days.
In May I had the second shot…again felt terrible but it passed much more quickly this time.
However, not long after getting the second vaccine I started having some symptoms that were kind of concerning. My heart would start pounding to the point where I felt like I was going to blackout, and I’d get dizzy and need to put my head down. These symptoms have progressed to where I’d wake up in the middle of the night with my heart racing and pounding, with actual pain in my chest. Needless to say I’ve now stopped drinking almost all caffeine (prior to this I used to be able to drink 4-5 cups of coffee a day with no negative effects). If I have just a cup I feel like I might have an actual heart attack. So I’m honestly very concerned.
It’s would be impossible to say at this point whether this is due to having had Covid, or the vaccine, or some combination of both… but I just want to share this because beforehand I was very frustrated with the “vaccine hesitant,” but honestly now that on a daily basis I feel like my heart might arrest I think I’ve changed positions and am a little more understanding of those who are still a little hesitant (due to health concerns, not political reasons, etc.)
Anyway I’ve been following this thread for awhile and just wanted to share a personal
account. I’m trying to get an appointment with a GP so I can get this checked out asap.
You started to experience these additional symptoms in May or not long after? But is is only now you want it checked out ASAP? Or did I misunderstand?
You haven’t misunderstood 🙂 In trying to make a long story short, I didn’t mention that my doctor has been on a leave of absence for several months. I’ve spent years looking for what I would consider a good doctor in my area so was really hoping to see her. But anyway, the office scheduled me with another doctor, who tends to emphasize mental health (which is not a bad thing, unless there are actual physical problems creating symptoms). She referred me to counseling and a neurologist…..so now I’m trying to get in with a doctor that will refer me to a cardiologist (I would assume this would be the specialist who would deal with these issues).
I also tend to have the mentality of “it’s nothing, you don’t need to see a doctor.” I was raised in that sort of environment. So it’s taken me some time to get to the point of being alarmed, especially since the symptoms haven’t cleared up yet.
ETA: I placed a lot of emphasis on the dizziness, and also have a history of migraines so the neurologist referral wasn’t totally out of left field, just not the one I think I needed. I admittedly need to be a better advocate for myself when it comes to doctor’s appointments.13 -
MarieBuch10 wrote: »tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »MarieBuch10 wrote: »Just want to share a personal experience with Covid and the vaccine:
I’m 28, F, healthy BMI, active and generally healthy. I had Covid in January, 2021…I was pretty sick for 1-2 weeks but definitely didn’t need medical attention. I’ve felt sicker before. (Some symptoms were weird though, it was definitely a rollercoaster of sorts where one symptom would resolve and another would begin. Also, 9 months later my taste/smell are still NOT the same). Recovered fine (I thought).
Once I was able to (April 2021) I received my first dose of Moderna. I was SUPER SICK for a day or two, like at least as sick as I felt when I had Covid if not worse. I was surprised (my logic had been that since I’d had Covid already the vaccine wouldn’t really have any symptoms; apparently the opposite is true). But I felt better after after a few days.
In May I had the second shot…again felt terrible but it passed much more quickly this time.
However, not long after getting the second vaccine I started having some symptoms that were kind of concerning. My heart would start pounding to the point where I felt like I was going to blackout, and I’d get dizzy and need to put my head down. These symptoms have progressed to where I’d wake up in the middle of the night with my heart racing and pounding, with actual pain in my chest. Needless to say I’ve now stopped drinking almost all caffeine (prior to this I used to be able to drink 4-5 cups of coffee a day with no negative effects). If I have just a cup I feel like I might have an actual heart attack. So I’m honestly very concerned.
It’s would be impossible to say at this point whether this is due to having had Covid, or the vaccine, or some combination of both… but I just want to share this because beforehand I was very frustrated with the “vaccine hesitant,” but honestly now that on a daily basis I feel like my heart might arrest I think I’ve changed positions and am a little more understanding of those who are still a little hesitant (due to health concerns, not political reasons, etc.)
Anyway I’ve been following this thread for awhile and just wanted to share a personal
account. I’m trying to get an appointment with a GP so I can get this checked out asap.
You started to experience these additional symptoms in May or not long after? But is is only now you want it checked out ASAP? Or did I misunderstand?
You haven’t misunderstood 🙂 In trying to make a long story short, I didn’t mention that my doctor has been on a leave of absence for several months. I’ve spent years looking for what I would consider a good doctor in my area so was really hoping to see her. But anyway, the office scheduled me with another doctor, who tends to emphasize mental health (which is not a bad thing, unless there are actual physical problems creating symptoms). She referred me to counseling and a neurologist…..so now I’m trying to get in with a doctor that will refer me to a cardiologist (I would assume this would be the specialist who would deal with these issues).
I also tend to have the mentality of “it’s nothing, you don’t need to see a doctor.” I was raised in that sort of environment. So it’s taken me some time to get to the point of being alarmed, especially since the symptoms haven’t cleared up yet.
ETA: I placed a lot of emphasis on the dizziness, and also have a history of migraines so the neurologist referral wasn’t totally out of left field, just not the one I think I needed. I admittedly need to be a better advocate for myself when it comes to doctor’s appointments.
You are very young, but my husband went to work one afternoon in late May. He’d been having chest pains, and trouble breathing. His coworkers took him to the hospital. We had our 2nd Moderna shot in April. Turns out, he had developed blood clots in his left knee area that traveled to his lungs. The doctor didn’t come right out and say the vaccine caused it, but the very fact that he asked is concerning. He asked right after he asked him if there was any family history of blood clots, and no there isn’t. He’s got (had, he retired 2 weeks ago) a very active job, and isn’t sedentary, so another no for reason for blood clots. BTW, he was seen by a cardiologist first. When they determined his heart was fine, the hematologist took over.
My daughter had covid too. She was diagnosed 3/29/21. Her taste and smell haven’t returned yet either. She’s a runner, and her lung capacity isn’t what it was pre-covid.
Wise of you to get it checked out by your GP. You absolutely have to be your own best advocate. Hopefully they will be thorough, and because you are so young, not overlook anything. Covid is such an unknown. Best wishes for you❤️13 -
MarieBuch10 wrote: »tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »MarieBuch10 wrote: »Just want to share a personal experience with Covid and the vaccine:
I’m 28, F, healthy BMI, active and generally healthy. I had Covid in January, 2021…I was pretty sick for 1-2 weeks but definitely didn’t need medical attention. I’ve felt sicker before. (Some symptoms were weird though, it was definitely a rollercoaster of sorts where one symptom would resolve and another would begin. Also, 9 months later my taste/smell are still NOT the same). Recovered fine (I thought).
Once I was able to (April 2021) I received my first dose of Moderna. I was SUPER SICK for a day or two, like at least as sick as I felt when I had Covid if not worse. I was surprised (my logic had been that since I’d had Covid already the vaccine wouldn’t really have any symptoms; apparently the opposite is true). But I felt better after after a few days.
In May I had the second shot…again felt terrible but it passed much more quickly this time.
However, not long after getting the second vaccine I started having some symptoms that were kind of concerning. My heart would start pounding to the point where I felt like I was going to blackout, and I’d get dizzy and need to put my head down. These symptoms have progressed to where I’d wake up in the middle of the night with my heart racing and pounding, with actual pain in my chest. Needless to say I’ve now stopped drinking almost all caffeine (prior to this I used to be able to drink 4-5 cups of coffee a day with no negative effects). If I have just a cup I feel like I might have an actual heart attack. So I’m honestly very concerned.
It’s would be impossible to say at this point whether this is due to having had Covid, or the vaccine, or some combination of both… but I just want to share this because beforehand I was very frustrated with the “vaccine hesitant,” but honestly now that on a daily basis I feel like my heart might arrest I think I’ve changed positions and am a little more understanding of those who are still a little hesitant (due to health concerns, not political reasons, etc.)
Anyway I’ve been following this thread for awhile and just wanted to share a personal
account. I’m trying to get an appointment with a GP so I can get this checked out asap.
You started to experience these additional symptoms in May or not long after? But is is only now you want it checked out ASAP? Or did I misunderstand?
You haven’t misunderstood 🙂 In trying to make a long story short, I didn’t mention that my doctor has been on a leave of absence for several months. I’ve spent years looking for what I would consider a good doctor in my area so was really hoping to see her. But anyway, the office scheduled me with another doctor, who tends to emphasize mental health (which is not a bad thing, unless there are actual physical problems creating symptoms). She referred me to counseling and a neurologist…..so now I’m trying to get in with a doctor that will refer me to a cardiologist (I would assume this would be the specialist who would deal with these issues).
I also tend to have the mentality of “it’s nothing, you don’t need to see a doctor.” I was raised in that sort of environment. So it’s taken me some time to get to the point of being alarmed, especially since the symptoms haven’t cleared up yet.
ETA: I placed a lot of emphasis on the dizziness, and also have a history of migraines so the neurologist referral wasn’t totally out of left field, just not the one I think I needed. I admittedly need to be a better advocate for myself when it comes to doctor’s appointments.
Not an expert on heart problems as such, but I *am* an expert on waking up in the middle of the night with weird heart problems wondering if I should go to the ER! Waking up in the middle of the night makes me wonder about sleep apnea, particularly if you are overweight (I don’t know if you are, but since you’re on these forums it seems like a possibility.) Another cause of palpitations, chest pain, and night sweats is anemia.
One other possible issue which is known to be caused by Covid, and rarely by the vaccine, is myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart. Myocarditis is ruled out by bloodwork. If your doctor didn’t do blood work to check on heart inflammation, ask why they think this isn’t a possibility. My rule with doctors is never to tell them what I have, but to say, “Can you explain why you have ruled out X?”
You shouldn’t need a cardio as a first step, there are clear blood markers which show whether or not your heart is inflamed. A regular GP should have done full labs as a first step. If you didn’t get a full work up demand one.10 -
kshama2001 wrote: »My partner got his Pfizer booster Friday and was slammed with fatigue for about 12 hours Saturday. His arm was sore to the touch. I think he had more soreness and a little less fatigue with the previous two shots.
My mom had Moderna, which I understand from a conversation (have not fact checked) lasts longer and the booster is not needed as soon as for Pfizer (?)
Why was this flagged for abuse?
I haven't heard anything about when Moderna boosters will be available.
Maybe they thought it was an ad for Moderna. Which would be a pretty weird thing to think, but it's all I have other than what snowflake said.
Anyway, I believe that you are right about Moderna, kshama, although I don't know the specific numbers.6 -
missysippy930 wrote: »MarieBuch10 wrote: »tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »MarieBuch10 wrote: »Just want to share a personal experience with Covid and the vaccine:
I’m 28, F, healthy BMI, active and generally healthy. I had Covid in January, 2021…I was pretty sick for 1-2 weeks but definitely didn’t need medical attention. I’ve felt sicker before. (Some symptoms were weird though, it was definitely a rollercoaster of sorts where one symptom would resolve and another would begin. Also, 9 months later my taste/smell are still NOT the same). Recovered fine (I thought).
Once I was able to (April 2021) I received my first dose of Moderna. I was SUPER SICK for a day or two, like at least as sick as I felt when I had Covid if not worse. I was surprised (my logic had been that since I’d had Covid already the vaccine wouldn’t really have any symptoms; apparently the opposite is true). But I felt better after after a few days.
In May I had the second shot…again felt terrible but it passed much more quickly this time.
However, not long after getting the second vaccine I started having some symptoms that were kind of concerning. My heart would start pounding to the point where I felt like I was going to blackout, and I’d get dizzy and need to put my head down. These symptoms have progressed to where I’d wake up in the middle of the night with my heart racing and pounding, with actual pain in my chest. Needless to say I’ve now stopped drinking almost all caffeine (prior to this I used to be able to drink 4-5 cups of coffee a day with no negative effects). If I have just a cup I feel like I might have an actual heart attack. So I’m honestly very concerned.
It’s would be impossible to say at this point whether this is due to having had Covid, or the vaccine, or some combination of both… but I just want to share this because beforehand I was very frustrated with the “vaccine hesitant,” but honestly now that on a daily basis I feel like my heart might arrest I think I’ve changed positions and am a little more understanding of those who are still a little hesitant (due to health concerns, not political reasons, etc.)
Anyway I’ve been following this thread for awhile and just wanted to share a personal
account. I’m trying to get an appointment with a GP so I can get this checked out asap.
You started to experience these additional symptoms in May or not long after? But is is only now you want it checked out ASAP? Or did I misunderstand?
You haven’t misunderstood 🙂 In trying to make a long story short, I didn’t mention that my doctor has been on a leave of absence for several months. I’ve spent years looking for what I would consider a good doctor in my area so was really hoping to see her. But anyway, the office scheduled me with another doctor, who tends to emphasize mental health (which is not a bad thing, unless there are actual physical problems creating symptoms). She referred me to counseling and a neurologist…..so now I’m trying to get in with a doctor that will refer me to a cardiologist (I would assume this would be the specialist who would deal with these issues).
I also tend to have the mentality of “it’s nothing, you don’t need to see a doctor.” I was raised in that sort of environment. So it’s taken me some time to get to the point of being alarmed, especially since the symptoms haven’t cleared up yet.
ETA: I placed a lot of emphasis on the dizziness, and also have a history of migraines so the neurologist referral wasn’t totally out of left field, just not the one I think I needed. I admittedly need to be a better advocate for myself when it comes to doctor’s appointments.
You are very young, but my husband went to work one afternoon in late May. He’d been having chest pains, and trouble breathing. His coworkers took him to the hospital. We had our 2nd Moderna shot in April. Turns out, he had developed blood clots in his left knee area that traveled to his lungs. The doctor didn’t come right out and say the vaccine caused it, but the very fact that he asked is concerning. He asked right after he asked him if there was any family history of blood clots, and no there isn’t. He’s got (had, he retired 2 weeks ago) a very active job, and isn’t sedentary, so another no for reason for blood clots. BTW, he was seen by a cardiologist first. When they determined his heart was fine, the hematologist took over.
My daughter had covid too. She was diagnosed 3/29/21. Her taste and smell haven’t returned yet either. She’s a runner, and her lung capacity isn’t what it was pre-covid.
Wise of you to get it checked out by your GP. You absolutely have to be your own best advocate. Hopefully they will be thorough, and because you are so young, not overlook anything. Covid is such an unknown. Best wishes for you❤️
Oh no, that must have been scary. I hope your husband and daughter are getting better every day. I’m definitely going to be sure this is thoroughly checked out. I got an appointment tomorrow with a different doctor. Thank you!!
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rheddmobile wrote: »MarieBuch10 wrote: »tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »MarieBuch10 wrote: »Just want to share a personal experience with Covid and the vaccine:
I’m 28, F, healthy BMI, active and generally healthy. I had Covid in January, 2021…I was pretty sick for 1-2 weeks but definitely didn’t need medical attention. I’ve felt sicker before. (Some symptoms were weird though, it was definitely a rollercoaster of sorts where one symptom would resolve and another would begin. Also, 9 months later my taste/smell are still NOT the same). Recovered fine (I thought).
Once I was able to (April 2021) I received my first dose of Moderna. I was SUPER SICK for a day or two, like at least as sick as I felt when I had Covid if not worse. I was surprised (my logic had been that since I’d had Covid already the vaccine wouldn’t really have any symptoms; apparently the opposite is true). But I felt better after after a few days.
In May I had the second shot…again felt terrible but it passed much more quickly this time.
However, not long after getting the second vaccine I started having some symptoms that were kind of concerning. My heart would start pounding to the point where I felt like I was going to blackout, and I’d get dizzy and need to put my head down. These symptoms have progressed to where I’d wake up in the middle of the night with my heart racing and pounding, with actual pain in my chest. Needless to say I’ve now stopped drinking almost all caffeine (prior to this I used to be able to drink 4-5 cups of coffee a day with no negative effects). If I have just a cup I feel like I might have an actual heart attack. So I’m honestly very concerned.
It’s would be impossible to say at this point whether this is due to having had Covid, or the vaccine, or some combination of both… but I just want to share this because beforehand I was very frustrated with the “vaccine hesitant,” but honestly now that on a daily basis I feel like my heart might arrest I think I’ve changed positions and am a little more understanding of those who are still a little hesitant (due to health concerns, not political reasons, etc.)
Anyway I’ve been following this thread for awhile and just wanted to share a personal
account. I’m trying to get an appointment with a GP so I can get this checked out asap.
You started to experience these additional symptoms in May or not long after? But is is only now you want it checked out ASAP? Or did I misunderstand?
You haven’t misunderstood 🙂 In trying to make a long story short, I didn’t mention that my doctor has been on a leave of absence for several months. I’ve spent years looking for what I would consider a good doctor in my area so was really hoping to see her. But anyway, the office scheduled me with another doctor, who tends to emphasize mental health (which is not a bad thing, unless there are actual physical problems creating symptoms). She referred me to counseling and a neurologist…..so now I’m trying to get in with a doctor that will refer me to a cardiologist (I would assume this would be the specialist who would deal with these issues).
I also tend to have the mentality of “it’s nothing, you don’t need to see a doctor.” I was raised in that sort of environment. So it’s taken me some time to get to the point of being alarmed, especially since the symptoms haven’t cleared up yet.
ETA: I placed a lot of emphasis on the dizziness, and also have a history of migraines so the neurologist referral wasn’t totally out of left field, just not the one I think I needed. I admittedly need to be a better advocate for myself when it comes to doctor’s appointments.
Not an expert on heart problems as such, but I *am* an expert on waking up in the middle of the night with weird heart problems wondering if I should go to the ER! Waking up in the middle of the night makes me wonder about sleep apnea, particularly if you are overweight (I don’t know if you are, but since you’re on these forums it seems like a possibility.) Another cause of palpitations, chest pain, and night sweats is anemia.
One other possible issue which is known to be caused by Covid, and rarely by the vaccine, is myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart. Myocarditis is ruled out by bloodwork. If your doctor didn’t do blood work to check on heart inflammation, ask why they think this isn’t a possibility. My rule with doctors is never to tell them what I have, but to say, “Can you explain why you have ruled out X?”
You shouldn’t need a cardio as a first step, there are clear blood markers which show whether or not your heart is inflamed. A regular GP should have done full labs as a first step. If you didn’t get a full work up demand one.
This is interesting. I’m at a healthy BMI (on these forums trying to stay there). I am being treated and monitored for low iron, which seems to be resolved/stable since I get this checked pretty regularly. But always worth mentioning again I guess.
The reason I’d guessed these symptoms could be related to Covid and/or the vaccine is because the onset of these newest (and the severity tbh) began in the spring, after I’d already had Covid and both shots. Prior to that I felt fine.
You’ve given great advice on how I can approach this doctor’s appt, I appreciate it!7 -
MarieBuch10 wrote: »Just want to share a personal experience with Covid and the vaccine:
I’m 28, F, healthy BMI, active and generally healthy. I had Covid in January, 2021…I was pretty sick for 1-2 weeks but definitely didn’t need medical attention. I’ve felt sicker before. (Some symptoms were weird though, it was definitely a rollercoaster of sorts where one symptom would resolve and another would begin. Also, 9 months later my taste/smell are still NOT the same). Recovered fine (I thought).
Once I was able to (April 2021) I received my first dose of Moderna. I was SUPER SICK for a day or two, like at least as sick as I felt when I had Covid if not worse. I was surprised (my logic had been that since I’d had Covid already the vaccine wouldn’t really have any symptoms; apparently the opposite is true). But I felt better after after a few days.
In May I had the second shot…again felt terrible but it passed much more quickly this time.
However, not long after getting the second vaccine I started having some symptoms that were kind of concerning. My heart would start pounding to the point where I felt like I was going to blackout, and I’d get dizzy and need to put my head down. These symptoms have progressed to where I’d wake up in the middle of the night with my heart racing and pounding, with actual pain in my chest. Needless to say I’ve now stopped drinking almost all caffeine (prior to this I used to be able to drink 4-5 cups of coffee a day with no negative effects). If I have just a cup I feel like I might have an actual heart attack. So I’m honestly very concerned.
It’s would be impossible to say at this point whether this is due to having had Covid, or the vaccine, or some combination of both… but I just want to share this because beforehand I was very frustrated with the “vaccine hesitant,” but honestly now that on a daily basis I feel like my heart might arrest I think I’ve changed positions and am a little more understanding of those who are still a little hesitant (due to health concerns, not political reasons, etc.)
Anyway I’ve been following this thread for awhile and just wanted to share a personal
account. I’m trying to get an appointment with a GP so I can get this checked out asap.
I had Covid over a year before I got the vaccine. I am a healthy, fit runner. My BMI is 21. The initial sickness was not that big of a deal. I had a constant low-grade headache (I don't get headaches, so I knew something was up) and everything tasted like dirt for about a week. No fever, no cough. No big deal.
But in the months that followed, I gradually started to feel short of breath randomly while sitting or standing around. I started waking up at night gasping for air, and I developed a nasty cough. It didn't stop worsening until about 6 months after the initial sickness. I was still able to run, but my pace was garbage.
After getting an inhaler for the first time (which I still have) I started to feel more normal around month 10. I felt very good around the time I got my last vaccine. I consider myself to be satisfactory now, basically normal but with an inhaler, over a year and a half later, even though my running pace still sucks. I'm grateful that I can still run.
Anyway, my point is, the Covid after effects were still developing months after the illness for me, so maybe that's an explanation for your problem?23 -
rheddmobile wrote: »MarieBuch10 wrote: »tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »MarieBuch10 wrote: »Just want to share a personal experience with Covid and the vaccine:
I’m 28, F, healthy BMI, active and generally healthy. I had Covid in January, 2021…I was pretty sick for 1-2 weeks but definitely didn’t need medical attention. I’ve felt sicker before. (Some symptoms were weird though, it was definitely a rollercoaster of sorts where one symptom would resolve and another would begin. Also, 9 months later my taste/smell are still NOT the same). Recovered fine (I thought).
Once I was able to (April 2021) I received my first dose of Moderna. I was SUPER SICK for a day or two, like at least as sick as I felt when I had Covid if not worse. I was surprised (my logic had been that since I’d had Covid already the vaccine wouldn’t really have any symptoms; apparently the opposite is true). But I felt better after after a few days.
In May I had the second shot…again felt terrible but it passed much more quickly this time.
However, not long after getting the second vaccine I started having some symptoms that were kind of concerning. My heart would start pounding to the point where I felt like I was going to blackout, and I’d get dizzy and need to put my head down. These symptoms have progressed to where I’d wake up in the middle of the night with my heart racing and pounding, with actual pain in my chest. Needless to say I’ve now stopped drinking almost all caffeine (prior to this I used to be able to drink 4-5 cups of coffee a day with no negative effects). If I have just a cup I feel like I might have an actual heart attack. So I’m honestly very concerned.
It’s would be impossible to say at this point whether this is due to having had Covid, or the vaccine, or some combination of both… but I just want to share this because beforehand I was very frustrated with the “vaccine hesitant,” but honestly now that on a daily basis I feel like my heart might arrest I think I’ve changed positions and am a little more understanding of those who are still a little hesitant (due to health concerns, not political reasons, etc.)
Anyway I’ve been following this thread for awhile and just wanted to share a personal
account. I’m trying to get an appointment with a GP so I can get this checked out asap.
You started to experience these additional symptoms in May or not long after? But is is only now you want it checked out ASAP? Or did I misunderstand?
You haven’t misunderstood 🙂 In trying to make a long story short, I didn’t mention that my doctor has been on a leave of absence for several months. I’ve spent years looking for what I would consider a good doctor in my area so was really hoping to see her. But anyway, the office scheduled me with another doctor, who tends to emphasize mental health (which is not a bad thing, unless there are actual physical problems creating symptoms). She referred me to counseling and a neurologist…..so now I’m trying to get in with a doctor that will refer me to a cardiologist (I would assume this would be the specialist who would deal with these issues).
I also tend to have the mentality of “it’s nothing, you don’t need to see a doctor.” I was raised in that sort of environment. So it’s taken me some time to get to the point of being alarmed, especially since the symptoms haven’t cleared up yet.
ETA: I placed a lot of emphasis on the dizziness, and also have a history of migraines so the neurologist referral wasn’t totally out of left field, just not the one I think I needed. I admittedly need to be a better advocate for myself when it comes to doctor’s appointments.
Not an expert on heart problems as such, but I *am* an expert on waking up in the middle of the night with weird heart problems wondering if I should go to the ER! Waking up in the middle of the night makes me wonder about sleep apnea, particularly if you are overweight (I don’t know if you are, but since you’re on these forums it seems like a possibility.) Another cause of palpitations, chest pain, and night sweats is anemia.
One other possible issue which is known to be caused by Covid, and rarely by the vaccine, is myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart. Myocarditis is ruled out by bloodwork. If your doctor didn’t do blood work to check on heart inflammation, ask why they think this isn’t a possibility. My rule with doctors is never to tell them what I have, but to say, “Can you explain why you have ruled out X?”
You shouldn’t need a cardio as a first step, there are clear blood markers which show whether or not your heart is inflamed. A regular GP should have done full labs as a first step. If you didn’t get a full work up demand one.
Yes, two times ago when my anemia got out of control I had a lot of palpitations and a complete cardio workup that found nothing of note with my heart. The palpitations became negligible after I got my anemia under control again.8 -
MarieBuch10 wrote: »Just want to share a personal experience with Covid and the vaccine:
I’m 28, F, healthy BMI, active and generally healthy. I had Covid in January, 2021…I was pretty sick for 1-2 weeks but definitely didn’t need medical attention. I’ve felt sicker before. (Some symptoms were weird though, it was definitely a rollercoaster of sorts where one symptom would resolve and another would begin. Also, 9 months later my taste/smell are still NOT the same). Recovered fine (I thought).
Once I was able to (April 2021) I received my first dose of Moderna. I was SUPER SICK for a day or two, like at least as sick as I felt when I had Covid if not worse. I was surprised (my logic had been that since I’d had Covid already the vaccine wouldn’t really have any symptoms; apparently the opposite is true). But I felt better after after a few days.
In May I had the second shot…again felt terrible but it passed much more quickly this time.
However, not long after getting the second vaccine I started having some symptoms that were kind of concerning. My heart would start pounding to the point where I felt like I was going to blackout, and I’d get dizzy and need to put my head down. These symptoms have progressed to where I’d wake up in the middle of the night with my heart racing and pounding, with actual pain in my chest. Needless to say I’ve now stopped drinking almost all caffeine (prior to this I used to be able to drink 4-5 cups of coffee a day with no negative effects). If I have just a cup I feel like I might have an actual heart attack. So I’m honestly very concerned.
It’s would be impossible to say at this point whether this is due to having had Covid, or the vaccine, or some combination of both… but I just want to share this because beforehand I was very frustrated with the “vaccine hesitant,” but honestly now that on a daily basis I feel like my heart might arrest I think I’ve changed positions and am a little more understanding of those who are still a little hesitant (due to health concerns, not political reasons, etc.)
Anyway I’ve been following this thread for awhile and just wanted to share a personal
account. I’m trying to get an appointment with a GP so I can get this checked out asap.
I had Covid over a year before I got the vaccine. I am a healthy, fit runner. My BMI is 21. The initial sickness was not that big of a deal. I had a constant low-grade headache (I don't get headaches, so I knew something was up) and everything tasted like dirt for about a week. No fever, no cough. No big deal.
But in the months that followed, I gradually started to feel short of breath randomly while sitting or standing around. I started waking up at night gasping for air, and I developed a nasty cough. It didn't stop worsening until about 6 months after the initial sickness. I was still able to run, but my pace was garbage.
After getting an inhaler for the first time (which I still have) I started to feel more normal around month 10. I felt very good around the time I got my last vaccine. I consider myself to be satisfactory now, basically normal but with an inhaler, over a year and a half later, even though my running pace still sucks. I'm grateful that I can still run.
Anyway, my point is, the Covid after effects were still developing months after the illness for me, so maybe that's an explanation for your problem?
I can see this being likely as well…like I mentioned Covid really was a rollercoaster of symptoms, with a new one appearing whenever a different one resolved. I don’t doubt there could be some other lasting effects (especially considering my taste/smell are still off, who knows what else it could have done internally).
I’m very sorry that it’s impacted your running…hope you get back to where you want to be with it 🙂6 -
I just got my flu shot at work yesterday.. With all this discussion around vaccines this year it was interesting to note that altho my arm is just a tad not quite right (I would not call it sore) my resting heart rate over night was much higher than usual, and I had chills before i went to bed. Unlike my 2nd Pfizer shot my heart rate did not shoot up immediately after the vaccination which I was a little leery of. For no logical reason since the vaccines are totally different and I haven't had a reaction like that to my previous Flu shots. I think with all the discussions we are tending to monitor ourselves a lot more.
Delta appears to be dropping off now in our area. Technically if the 8 month recommendation holds I would be due for a Pfizer booster in Nov or Dec, but I think at this point I might wait and see how Covid is over the next few weeks and what the data is showing. It appears sometimes that it just comes in waves regardless of any actions humans do. If we can start to vaccinate the younger kids perhaps the spread will ease up a lot more.
I can't imagine what Delta would be like here in the US without having so many vaccinated. It was/is horrific anyway. And reading about the long term random things that are happening to folks makes it pretty terrifying.11 -
SummerSkier wrote: »I just got my flu shot at work yesterday.. With all this discussion around vaccines this year it was interesting to note that altho my arm is just a tad not quite right (I would not call it sore) my resting heart rate over night was much higher than usual, and I had chills before i went to bed. Unlike my 2nd Pfizer shot my heart rate did not shoot up immediately after the vaccination which I was a little leery of. For no logical reason since the vaccines are totally different and I haven't had a reaction like that to my previous Flu shots. I think with all the discussions we are tending to monitor ourselves a lot more.
Delta appears to be dropping off now in our area. Technically if the 8 month recommendation holds I would be due for a Pfizer booster in Nov or Dec, but I think at this point I might wait and see how Covid is over the next few weeks and what the data is showing. It appears sometimes that it just comes in waves regardless of any actions humans do. If we can start to vaccinate the younger kids perhaps the spread will ease up a lot more.
I can't imagine what Delta would be like here in the US without having so many vaccinated. It was/is horrific anyway. And reading about the long term random things that are happening to folks makes it pretty terrifying.
The long term stuff is what I worry about as well. There are plenty of cases like @jenilla1 who had a mild case but are still seeing symptoms 6 months, a year, or more afterward. I think the last stat I saw was a 10% rate of long covid, and they're not really sure if everyone exhibiting long term symptoms is being reported. Plus they don't know, is this the infection staying active, or does the illness cause damage that now has to be dealt with. So many people concerned with the "fatality rate" and not paying attn to what could be years of nagging health issues and medical bills.
Finally, a legit well-funded study is happening at one of the large NYC hospitals, I forget which one. And a medical code has been assigned to post acute Covid-19. So hopefully we will see some progress and the problem is being officially acknowledged!13 -
@summerskier Sorry for another round of vaccine discomfort. I got my flu shot Oct 3. This time, except for tender arm, I would have never known I had the shot. Now, in the past, I have had flu vaccines where I was notably "off" after, though prior to the COVID vaccines, I was always told that was "all in my mind" and "not possible". Hubby got his flu shot on the 6th and there was no whining, so I am assuming there was no reaction this time. :P I know he is not looking forward to his Pfiser booster as he still talks about how he was knocked down after his second dose. after my second, I just felt generally "sick", but if I plan for it (Ie soup and netflix movies lined up) then I am not concerned.6
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I got my Pfizer booster this week, followed by my flu shot two days later.
The day after the booster, I had a headache and high fever, but both were gone in about 12 hours.
I was hesitant to get the flu shot the day after running a high fever, but the nurse said it was fine since I was not currently running a fever. I had no noticeable reaction to the flu shot...I get one every year and never have had any reaction, but have never had back-to-back vaccines. So, I was happy and glad I didn't put it off.
It will be interesting when they start giving the Moderna boosters. Those will be a half dose, as opposed to the Pfizer, which was a full dose. I wonder if the half dose will mean less adverse reactions.9
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