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Hmm, I didn't even consider the huge differences in minimum wage. Just out of curiosity, I googled my city/state. In Oregon, it's $12.50, but in Portland, where I live, it's $14.75 (it should be, it's outrageous to live in the city now).
My $7 estimate is probably low. That was probably when we arrived back here, which in some ways feels like just a few years ago, but was actually 14 years ago. But $17 for a mediocre burger with nothing special about it, just some fries on the side is steep, even for here. It's a local brewpub chain with many, many locations, so while the menus vary a little, it's still predictable from one location to another. I guess I was shocked to pay $17.50 for four chicken strips and tots. For someone who doesn't eat out much, I guess it's going to have to be worth it.
Oh, and last week when I met my sisters for an outdoor happy hour, it was 39F. I couldn't feel my feet by the time we left, but we talk a lot...4 -
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Nope. Many states pay more, but NM is still at $2.13/hr...I believe this legislative session there is a bill that will likely pass to raise it to $2.88/hr for tipped employees.
It was $2.13 when I waited tables over 25 years ago...this coming change will be the first. The hourly rate plus tips must be equal to the hourly minimum wage of $11.50 per hour. I actually did pretty well for a college student when I waited tables, but I worked in finer dining setting and once I had some tenure made sure I had Friday night shifts, a double on Saturday, and Sunday brunch. One would barely scrape by working at Denny's or something.
Good lord. I made $2.15 an hour (which might have been the "student" minimum wage at the time) when I was 16, non-tipping job. That was in 1979!!!4 -
Needed to run into (big box home improvement chain store) today for something. That place had the lowest fraction of masking I've seen anywhere in ages: Almost no customers (maybe none other than me?) wearing masks; most of the employees had one, but many not properly worn (scrunched down around collar, nose not covered, that sort of thing). Only one staffer (woman staffing the self checkout) looked like she had a well-fitted mask, properly worn.
I have to admit, this plus one of my (40-something y/o) nephews who refuses to wear a mask anywhere (when his wife and adult daughter will) makes me wonder (. . . Ann ducks and gets ready to run . . . ) is non-masking gender biased in some way? Here, I (F) and that woman at checkout were the overwhelming majority of women I saw in there, too.5 -
Needed to run into (big box home improvement chain store) today for something. That place had the lowest fraction of masking I've seen anywhere in ages: Almost no customers (maybe none other than me?) wearing masks; most of the employees had one, but many not properly worn (scrunched down around collar, nose not covered, that sort of thing). Only one staffer (woman staffing the self checkout) looked like she had a well-fitted mask, properly worn.
I have to admit, this plus one of my (40-something y/o) nephews who refuses to wear a mask anywhere (when his wife and adult daughter will) makes me wonder (. . . Ann ducks and gets ready to run . . . ) is non-masking gender biased in some way? Here, I (F) and that woman at checkout were the overwhelming majority of women I saw in there, too.
I read an article on this, and yes, there is gender bias regarding mask compliance. Their theory was that men find it unmanly to protect themselves, because it implies that they are fearful.6 -
I have to admit, this plus one of my (40-something y/o) nephews who refuses to wear a mask anywhere (when his wife and adult daughter will) makes me wonder (. . . Ann ducks and gets ready to run . . . ) is non-masking gender biased in some way? Here, I (F) and that woman at checkout were the overwhelming majority of women I saw in there, too.
Masking is still mandatory here so everyone wears one. What I did notice early on is that, for a lot of women, it became just another fashion accessory, a way to express one's personal style. I also saw quite a few men out and about in heavy duty industrial respirator masks (like for painting or chemical fumes), it seemed to add a certain layer of status to wear work PPE.
The one person I saw refusing to wear one was indeed male, however. He wasn't claiming a medical exemption, he said he didn't have to wear one because he was vaccinated (which I highly doubt, given his snarly attitude). Vaccination status does not exempt one from mask-wearing here.
Other than that one fellow, I've never seen anyone without a mask so the genuine medical exemptions must be few and far between.4 -
Yes I've noticed 'fashion masks' here in Australia too.
Mandatory for everyone over 12 to wear one in indoor public areas unless medical exemption so I don't notice non compliance by gender.
I do notice more women getting into the fashion statements with sparkly masks, floral masks, Christmas themed etc.
Although also a few men with 'male fashion' - football teams, big dogs.
Huge generalisation, I know - and the vast majority of both genders just wearing plain paper disposables.3 -
Adding to the male/female mask discussion, I cannot imagine wearing a mask with a beard. Especially with any beard more than the razor stubble look.0
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I used to work with a male senior nurse full beard. Even then he was required from time to time, doing dressings with his full beard. Beards should be no exception. I suppose the, "its unmanly to be seen to be frightened" is like many doctors not going to see the doctor until the "complaint" they should have taken was too far for swift treatment.
Still here in the UK. When parliament gets back after recess. When the kids return to school after half term. Non of us will have to adhere to any previous covid requirements! According to Boris, without scientific support.
Our NHS much praised for how the staff worked selflessly through thick and thin, through the "now over pandemic" is now in the dog house because 6 million of us are on waiting lists for some health intervention or other. This Government seem to have forgotten there were several million on waiting even lists before covid. Caused by keeping years of general austerity after the financial crisis of 2008/9 when ever it was, along with all the other interventions.5 -
Needed to run into (big box home improvement chain store) today for something. That place had the lowest fraction of masking I've seen anywhere in ages: Almost no customers (maybe none other than me?) wearing masks; most of the employees had one, but many not properly worn (scrunched down around collar, nose not covered, that sort of thing). Only one staffer (woman staffing the self checkout) looked like she had a well-fitted mask, properly worn.
I have to admit, this plus one of my (40-something y/o) nephews who refuses to wear a mask anywhere (when his wife and adult daughter will) makes me wonder (. . . Ann ducks and gets ready to run . . . ) is non-masking gender biased in some way? Here, I (F) and that woman at checkout were the overwhelming majority of women I saw in there, too.
Is masking required? Honestly I am ready to ditch the mask. As soon as the mandate ends here I won't be wearing one.5 -
Needed to run into (big box home improvement chain store) today for something. That place had the lowest fraction of masking I've seen anywhere in ages: Almost no customers (maybe none other than me?) wearing masks; most of the employees had one, but many not properly worn (scrunched down around collar, nose not covered, that sort of thing). Only one staffer (woman staffing the self checkout) looked like she had a well-fitted mask, properly worn.
I have to admit, this plus one of my (40-something y/o) nephews who refuses to wear a mask anywhere (when his wife and adult daughter will) makes me wonder (. . . Ann ducks and gets ready to run . . . ) is non-masking gender biased in some way? Here, I (F) and that woman at checkout were the overwhelming majority of women I saw in there, too.
Is masking required? Honestly I am ready to ditch the mask. As soon as the mandate ends here I won't be wearing one.
No, masking is not required here. Businesses can request it, some do. I'm not sure whether it's legally required in health care settings (doctors & dentists offices, clinics, etc.) but it seems to be universally required by those entities judging from signage/practice.
That wasn't the point of my post, though.
Since masking is mostly voluntary here, the use of masks varies quite a bit IME in different stores and settings, even in businesses near each other in the same community. Just observing, not doing statistical analysis, it seems like there are demographic differences amongst the different settings that may be part of the likelihood of mask usage. I was asking if other folks felt gender made a difference in probability of mask usage, when people have individual choice.
I get that some women don't like masks, will not wear one in every case where they are able to not wear one. Some of my friends are like that.1 -
Haven't seen any comments here about this, but it looks like it's widely publicized, and certainly relevant on this thread, and on the sub-topic of supply chains.
The Ambassador Bridge, the busiest US/Canada border crossings, has been partially shut down for days by the same type of anti-vaccine protests that have been going on in Ottawa (Canada's capital) and elsewhere in Canada. This crossing normally accounts for around a quarter of trade between US/Canada. Automakers have cut production as a result, and those are not the only impacts.
I'm sure this will have other effects on already-stressed supply chains, but I don't have any details.
This is a local-ish reverse-chronological summary.
https://www.michiganradio.org/news/2022-02-09/ambassador-bridge-remains-closed-trucker-protests-over-canadas-covid-19-restrictions-continue2 -
Haven't seen any comments here about this, but it looks like it's widely publicized, and certainly relevant on this thread, and on the sub-topic of supply chains.
The Ambassador Bridge, the busiest US/Canada border crossings, has been partially shut down for days by the same type of anti-vaccine protests that have been going on in Ottawa (Canada's capital) and elsewhere in Canada. This crossing normally accounts for around a quarter of trade between US/Canada. Automakers have cut production as a result, and those are not the only impacts.
I'm sure this will have other effects on already-stressed supply chains, but I don't have any details.
This is a local-ish reverse-chronological summary.
https://www.michiganradio.org/news/2022-02-09/ambassador-bridge-remains-closed-trucker-protests-over-canadas-covid-19-restrictions-continue
So annoying. I am waiting for a new truck (which I think might be coming from Mexico?). It was *supposed* to be here end of January but delivery is no where in sight. This will probably delay it even more.2 -
Haven't seen any comments here about this, but it looks like it's widely publicized, and certainly relevant on this thread, and on the sub-topic of supply chains.
The Ambassador Bridge, the busiest US/Canada border crossings, has been partially shut down for days by the same type of anti-vaccine protests that have been going on in Ottawa (Canada's capital) and elsewhere in Canada. This crossing normally accounts for around a quarter of trade between US/Canada. Automakers have cut production as a result, and those are not the only impacts.
I'm sure this will have other effects on already-stressed supply chains, but I don't have any details.
This is a local-ish reverse-chronological summary.
https://www.michiganradio.org/news/2022-02-09/ambassador-bridge-remains-closed-trucker-protests-over-canadas-covid-19-restrictions-continue
Well. It started as an anti-vaccine mandate protest but of course quickly attracted a lot of unsavoury fringe element protest folks, as these things often do. So it's gotten a bit muddy at this point, part Covid restriction protest and part overthrow-the-government.
There is also a border blockade in Alberta which I think predates Ambassador. Canada - US trade is pretty critical to our economy so they're not winning much support with these tactics.7 -
Needed to run into (big box home improvement chain store) today for something. That place had the lowest fraction of masking I've seen anywhere in ages: Almost no customers (maybe none other than me?) wearing masks; most of the employees had one, but many not properly worn (scrunched down around collar, nose not covered, that sort of thing). Only one staffer (woman staffing the self checkout) looked like she had a well-fitted mask, properly worn.
I have to admit, this plus one of my (40-something y/o) nephews who refuses to wear a mask anywhere (when his wife and adult daughter will) makes me wonder (. . . Ann ducks and gets ready to run . . . ) is non-masking gender biased in some way? Here, I (F) and that woman at checkout were the overwhelming majority of women I saw in there, too.
I've observed gender-biased non-masking. Where I go men are less likely to wear masks when not required, and to flout requirements.
When coverings were required and cloth was ok, I saw many more men than women wear bandanas. I guess a mask is more palatable if it is cool1 -
Here in Massachusetts, the Standard Minimum Wage is $14.25 and Tipped Minimum Wage is $6.15.
Wage theft is rampant in the restaurant business. I've received as low as nothing for Tipped Minimum Wage - tips only. That job didn't last long. But while it lasted, it was one of the hardest jobs I ever had.4 -
Looks like the supply chain issues are starting to hit our grocery stores. Still plenty of produce and whatnot, but I went last night to pick up a couple of steaks for tonight and my youngest wanted me to pick up some chicken and stars soup...soup shelves were pretty much bare as well as most canned goods.
I was worried that I wouldn't be able to find steaks as a co-worker had said he couldn't find any chicken anywhere over the weekend...but there was plenty of beef and chicken. I haven't bought a real "steak dinner" type of steak in quite awhile...prices definitely up on that. We typically just do ground beef or when we have steak we do a skirt steak or flank as they are relatively cheap and feed all of us.2 -
Just returned from a week in central Mexico (Guanajauto), and Mexicans of both genders wore masks indoors and out on the streets. Colonial cities with narrow streets and even narrower sidewalks mean pedestrians get pretty close to each other. Or maybe it's just less hassle to leave it on when walking between places. For whatever reasons, the locals were by and large masked. Gringos not so much.6
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Inflation is happening in every area and it is mostly because of what the Federal government did with handing out lots of cash. So now inflation is the highest it has been in 40 years... At levels that most of us have not seen in our lifetimes (assume everyone under 50 is too young to remember inflation 40 years ago, that is about 2/3 of the U.S. population).
The cause is a quick increase in money supply and the solution will be to decrease money supply... This means interest rates are about to skyrocket.3 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Inflation is happening in every area and it is mostly because of what the Federal government did with handing out lots of cash. So now inflation is the highest it has been in 40 years... At levels that most of us have not seen in our lifetimes (assume everyone under 50 is too young to remember inflation 40 years ago, that is about 2/3 of the U.S. population).
The cause is a quick increase in money supply and the solution will be to decrease money supply... This means interest rates are about to skyrocket.
I remember. Interest rates were 10% when we bought our home in 1987. There are plenty of us that remember. It’s one of the reasons Reagan got elected. Don’t discount the seniors. There’s a lot of us, and the number is growing.6 -
and…11 7/8 % interest rate in 1985!!! 1/8 % less than typical—a discount by the county for first time home buyers. Ouch!!!1
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P.S. It was still was an excellent financial move for us—hard to believe!0
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missysippy930 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Inflation is happening in every area and it is mostly because of what the Federal government did with handing out lots of cash. So now inflation is the highest it has been in 40 years... At levels that most of us have not seen in our lifetimes (assume everyone under 50 is too young to remember inflation 40 years ago, that is about 2/3 of the U.S. population).
The cause is a quick increase in money supply and the solution will be to decrease money supply... This means interest rates are about to skyrocket.
I remember. Interest rates were 10% when we bought our home in 1987. There are plenty of us that remember. It’s one of the reasons Reagan got elected. Don’t discount the seniors. There’s a lot of us, and the number is growing.
Yes, and the reason interest rates had to be raised was because of the high level of inflation. Raising interest rates is the fix. Unfortunately, I am in the process of building a new house... I am trying to lock in my rate soon.
The part that really bugs me is that I am single and childfree. I received very little of the money that the Fed printed in order to hand out. Despite that I didn't share in much of the benefits that led to hyper inflation, I will have to pay for the solution. Yet again, money is taken from me to benefit people with kids.9 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Inflation is happening in every area and it is mostly because of what the Federal government did with handing out lots of cash. So now inflation is the highest it has been in 40 years... At levels that most of us have not seen in our lifetimes (assume everyone under 50 is too young to remember inflation 40 years ago, that is about 2/3 of the U.S. population).
The cause is a quick increase in money supply and the solution will be to decrease money supply... This means interest rates are about to skyrocket.
I remember. Interest rates were 10% when we bought our home in 1987. There are plenty of us that remember. It’s one of the reasons Reagan got elected. Don’t discount the seniors. There’s a lot of us, and the number is growing.
Yes, and the reason interest rates had to be raised was because of the high level of inflation. Raising interest rates is the fix. Unfortunately, I am in the process of building a new house... I am trying to lock in my rate soon.
The part that really bugs me is that I am single and childfree. I received very little of the money that the Fed printed in order to hand out. Despite that I didn't share in much of the benefits that led to hyper inflation, I will have to pay for the solution. Yet again, money is taken from me to benefit people with kids.
That’s the way things work. We have no dependent children either, so did not get dependent money either. We pay part of the bill for other peoples children. Our property taxes go to schools in Minnesota, and it’s based on current home value, which the government determines. Not based on your home purchase price, so it goes up every year. We have 1 grown daughter, and we’ve been paying property taxes since 1975, when we bought our first home. Is it fair?🤷🏼♀️
In my years as a homeowner of 3 different homes, our interest rates were never below 8-3/4%. Our current home has been paid off for 16 years now. Our property taxes continue to rise yearly, with a big chunk going to the school district. So I guess you can compare this to the stimulus package, Paying for others children, with no end in site. It’s called supporting and investing in the future of your community.
I noticed rising prices almost immediately with Covid, 2 years ago, on my grocery bills. It’s steadily gotten worse. Gas prices went down at first, but now they’re higher than they’ve been in years. In 1979 there was a REAL gas shortage. Long lines, rising prices, and gas stations actually running out of gas and closing for the rest of the day when they ran out.
It’s very concerning to me to be in retirement, and this uncertainty with the economy and the pandemic issues.8 -
missysippy930 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Inflation is happening in every area and it is mostly because of what the Federal government did with handing out lots of cash. So now inflation is the highest it has been in 40 years... At levels that most of us have not seen in our lifetimes (assume everyone under 50 is too young to remember inflation 40 years ago, that is about 2/3 of the U.S. population).
The cause is a quick increase in money supply and the solution will be to decrease money supply... This means interest rates are about to skyrocket.
I remember. Interest rates were 10% when we bought our home in 1987. There are plenty of us that remember. It’s one of the reasons Reagan got elected. Don’t discount the seniors. There’s a lot of us, and the number is growing.
Maybe in quantum physics an event can cause an earlier event, but in the macro world where political events occur, inflation rates in 1987 seem like a very dubious cause of events in 1984, 1980, and whatever earlier years Reagan was elected governor of California and president of the Screen Actors Guild.4 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Inflation is happening in every area and it is mostly because of what the Federal government did with handing out lots of cash. So now inflation is the highest it has been in 40 years... At levels that most of us have not seen in our lifetimes (assume everyone under 50 is too young to remember inflation 40 years ago, that is about 2/3 of the U.S. population).
The cause is a quick increase in money supply and the solution will be to decrease money supply... This means interest rates are about to skyrocket.
I remember. Interest rates were 10% when we bought our home in 1987. There are plenty of us that remember. It’s one of the reasons Reagan got elected. Don’t discount the seniors. There’s a lot of us, and the number is growing.
Yes, and the reason interest rates had to be raised was because of the high level of inflation. Raising interest rates is the fix. Unfortunately, I am in the process of building a new house... I am trying to lock in my rate soon.
The part that really bugs me is that I am single and childfree. I received very little of the money that the Fed printed in order to hand out. Despite that I didn't share in much of the benefits that led to hyper inflation, I will have to pay for the solution. Yet again, money is taken from me to benefit people with kids.
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rheddmobile wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Inflation is happening in every area and it is mostly because of what the Federal government did with handing out lots of cash. So now inflation is the highest it has been in 40 years... At levels that most of us have not seen in our lifetimes (assume everyone under 50 is too young to remember inflation 40 years ago, that is about 2/3 of the U.S. population).
The cause is a quick increase in money supply and the solution will be to decrease money supply... This means interest rates are about to skyrocket.
I remember. Interest rates were 10% when we bought our home in 1987. There are plenty of us that remember. It’s one of the reasons Reagan got elected. Don’t discount the seniors. There’s a lot of us, and the number is growing.
Yes, and the reason interest rates had to be raised was because of the high level of inflation. Raising interest rates is the fix. Unfortunately, I am in the process of building a new house... I am trying to lock in my rate soon.
The part that really bugs me is that I am single and childfree. I received very little of the money that the Fed printed in order to hand out. Despite that I didn't share in much of the benefits that led to hyper inflation, I will have to pay for the solution. Yet again, money is taken from me to benefit people with kids.
The primary cause of climate change is overpopulation, and the most effective solution for climate change is to have fewer children. Individual person's may be good or bad for society, but additional population overall will destroy us. The government shouldn't reward reproduction and punish those of us doing the right thing.7 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Inflation is happening in every area and it is mostly because of what the Federal government did with handing out lots of cash. So now inflation is the highest it has been in 40 years... At levels that most of us have not seen in our lifetimes (assume everyone under 50 is too young to remember inflation 40 years ago, that is about 2/3 of the U.S. population).
The cause is a quick increase in money supply and the solution will be to decrease money supply... This means interest rates are about to skyrocket.
I remember. Interest rates were 10% when we bought our home in 1987. There are plenty of us that remember. It’s one of the reasons Reagan got elected. Don’t discount the seniors. There’s a lot of us, and the number is growing.
Maybe in quantum physics an event can cause an earlier event, but in the macro world where political events occur, inflation rates in 1987 seem like a very dubious cause of events in 1984, 1980, and whatever earlier years Reagan was elected governor of California and president of the Screen Actors Guild.
I think the point made was that Reagan was elected so that he would raise interest rates. Ridiculously high inflation began under Ford. Carter didn't solve it, so Reagan was elected with the idea that he would solve the inflation problem. He tried to do that by raising interest rates, though he also reduced taxes to offset this. That increased money supply primarily to high income earners while using interest rates to bring that money back in from borrowers. The increased money supply to wealthy people had little impact because this economic group often just hoarded money, so most of it truly never got into the economy.3 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Inflation is happening in every area and it is mostly because of what the Federal government did with handing out lots of cash. So now inflation is the highest it has been in 40 years... At levels that most of us have not seen in our lifetimes (assume everyone under 50 is too young to remember inflation 40 years ago, that is about 2/3 of the U.S. population).
The cause is a quick increase in money supply and the solution will be to decrease money supply... This means interest rates are about to skyrocket.
I remember. Interest rates were 10% when we bought our home in 1987. There are plenty of us that remember. It’s one of the reasons Reagan got elected. Don’t discount the seniors. There’s a lot of us, and the number is growing.
Yes, and the reason interest rates had to be raised was because of the high level of inflation. Raising interest rates is the fix. Unfortunately, I am in the process of building a new house... I am trying to lock in my rate soon.
The part that really bugs me is that I am single and childfree. I received very little of the money that the Fed printed in order to hand out. Despite that I didn't share in much of the benefits that led to hyper inflation, I will have to pay for the solution. Yet again, money is taken from me to benefit people with kids.
The primary cause of climate change is overpopulation, and the most effective solution for climate change is to have fewer children. Individual person's may be good or bad for society, but additional population overall will destroy us. The government shouldn't reward reproduction and punish those of us doing the right thing.
Sounds like someone should be moving to China ASAP.6 -
on interest rates, SIL's first house (roughly 1980) had a mortgage rate upwards of 16%. My husband remembers this because he celebrated when we did our first mortgage in 1983 and got a rate of "only" 11 or 12%.1
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Inflation is happening in every area and it is mostly because of what the Federal government did with handing out lots of cash. So now inflation is the highest it has been in 40 years... At levels that most of us have not seen in our lifetimes (assume everyone under 50 is too young to remember inflation 40 years ago, that is about 2/3 of the U.S. population).
The cause is a quick increase in money supply and the solution will be to decrease money supply... This means interest rates are about to skyrocket.
I remember. Interest rates were 10% when we bought our home in 1987. There are plenty of us that remember. It’s one of the reasons Reagan got elected. Don’t discount the seniors. There’s a lot of us, and the number is growing.
Maybe in quantum physics an event can cause an earlier event, but in the macro world where political events occur, inflation rates in 1987 seem like a very dubious cause of events in 1984, 1980, and whatever earlier years Reagan was elected governor of California and president of the Screen Actors Guild.
It seemed pretty clear that she was saying she recalls inflation being high, gave the high interest rate of the home she bought in '87 as one example of herself being old enough to recall the general period and some of the effects, and then said that "it" (inflation) was one of the reasons Reagan got elected -- which I think is generally believed to be true, inflation was high when he got elected in '80, although there were of course other reasons and high inflation obviously did not start with Carter (stagflation was an issue in the Ford administration, for example, and part of that was high inflation). Certainly there was a general view that the economy was bad when Reagan got elected (I recall this and I was a kid), and Reagan+Volcker (one could give more credit to Volcker) followed tight monetary policies to kick the inflation leading to a recession in the early '80s. I think the economy was perceived to be pretty good by '87, though (and thus the reelection of Reagan -- and, yes, I realize that happened in '84, which is before '87), although I also recall interest rates being much higher than what we have now had for quite a while for a longer period of time, Black Monday (1987) freaking people out and of course there was another recession in the early '90s.
History of mortgage rates: https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/historical-mortgage-rates-30-year-fixed. Looks very consistent with SModa's memory.
All that aside, and back to covid, I think it's impossible to tell to what extent inflation is based on underlying economic conditions when there is still as much supply chain disruption as there has been.2
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