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@33gail33 Glad you are better today. I also think it's a little surprising you felt so bad despite the 3 shots. Sounds terrible. Such a bummer, but you aren't the only one. I had one DD asymptomatic (shocked to test positive) and another who also was taken back at just how bad she felt. You are tougher than me because I would be no good at work if my eyeballs and everything hurt. Hope each day is better for you.
Yeah my boss tested positive back in January (or February) on a routine travel test - said he wouldn't have even known if he hadn't been required to take a test. I wonder if it has to do with which vaccine we got. I got three Pfizer and I think he had some sort of AZ and Moderna combination.
I don't think so. My whole family had it in January and we all had the same vaccines (Pfizer). My wife and I were double vaxed and boosted and both the boys were double vaxed. We all had varying degrees of symptoms. My youngest kid had the worst of it and was pretty much laid out with a high fever, congestion, sore throat, cough, etc. He pretty much didn't move for an entire day, but he was more or less normal after about 3 days. I basically had a bad head cold for 2 days and then it just kinda magically disappeared except for lingering fatigue that lasted a few weeks and strenuous cardio through me into coughing fits for about a month. My oldest kid had nothing at all and we wouldn't have known he had it had we not all tested when my youngest and I were sick. He still thinks he didn't actually have it because he was never even a little sick. My wife had some minor throat irritation and a runny nose and she said it just felt like her spring allergies which aren't particularly bad and more annoying than anything.4 -
Regrettably vaccination is not a guarantee, covid in this case will not be caught. The hope is those who do catch it will be less ill than they otherwise would be. I feel for those who still became really ill. I hope they are, were saved from having those nasty long covid symptoms.
Keep on taking care.5 -
I had a light case (3 days) in January. Didn’t bother my taste & smell. 2 others that Were sick about same time still don’t have their taste & smell right yet. I was vaxxed & boosted, others just vaxxed.2
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cwolfman13 wrote: »@33gail33 Glad you are better today. I also think it's a little surprising you felt so bad despite the 3 shots. Sounds terrible. Such a bummer, but you aren't the only one. I had one DD asymptomatic (shocked to test positive) and another who also was taken back at just how bad she felt. You are tougher than me because I would be no good at work if my eyeballs and everything hurt. Hope each day is better for you.
Yeah my boss tested positive back in January (or February) on a routine travel test - said he wouldn't have even known if he hadn't been required to take a test. I wonder if it has to do with which vaccine we got. I got three Pfizer and I think he had some sort of AZ and Moderna combination.
I don't think so. My whole family had it in January and we all had the same vaccines (Pfizer). My wife and I were double vaxed and boosted and both the boys were double vaxed. We all had varying degrees of symptoms. My youngest kid had the worst of it and was pretty much laid out with a high fever, congestion, sore throat, cough, etc. He pretty much didn't move for an entire day, but he was more or less normal after about 3 days. I basically had a bad head cold for 2 days and then it just kinda magically disappeared except for lingering fatigue that lasted a few weeks and strenuous cardio through me into coughing fits for about a month. My oldest kid had nothing at all and we wouldn't have known he had it had we not all tested when my youngest and I were sick. He still thinks he didn't actually have it because he was never even a little sick. My wife had some minor throat irritation and a runny nose and she said it just felt like her spring allergies which aren't particularly bad and more annoying than anything.
Seems kind of random then. Covid is weird.3 -
@33gail33 Glad you are better today. I also think it's a little surprising you felt so bad despite the 3 shots. Sounds terrible. Such a bummer, but you aren't the only one. I had one DD asymptomatic (shocked to test positive) and another who also was taken back at just how bad she felt. You are tougher than me because I would be no good at work if my eyeballs and everything hurt. Hope each day is better for you.
Yeah my boss tested positive back in January (or February) on a routine travel test - said he wouldn't have even known if he hadn't been required to take a test. I wonder if it has to do with which vaccine we got. I got three Pfizer and I think he had some sort of AZ and Moderna combination.
Studies and discussion by experts in the field (e.g. TWIV) indicate that the Moderna was holding up the best of the three options we have in the US (Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J). The also seems to be evidence that a Moderna booster after the two dose Pfizer is offering higher protection than a third Pfizer. Although possibly not the highest protection, either of the RNA options is still REALLY effective overall, especially against hospitalization and death.
Like you, I had all three Pfizer. Any tests for myself or my partner have all been negative, but with the unavailability of testing around the holiday season, there's some uncertainty.1 -
It was reported here in the UK, the was a person with a compromised immune system who contracted covid, the same infection for 16 months they had been tested repeatedly because there had been concerns for mutations. Sadly that person has passed.
On a brighter note from Cambridge. Stage 3 testing is in progress on a 77% effective Malaria vaccine in. It seems this breakthrough drew on information gained in understanding covid by another team scientist looking into covis to achieve this. (the AstraZeneca team)
An effective Malaria vaccine has been the international goal for too many years. The team have outline plans to work with a plant in India who it seems, when the WHO are satisfied, the plant could produce millions of vaccine a year at a fair price too for the tropical areas where Malaria is rife. I hope this vaccine gets the support of the WHO.
Dare I say, its a really bad thing which brings no one any good. The sad thing is, we do not know if covid will come back for another go at all of us,5 -
I haven't been keeping up on covid news for awhile, but have begun to hear snippets like they're suggesting masking in New York again. Does anyone here know if there's a new variant or is it omicron re-infecting or something else entirely?0
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what? panic buying in 2022? The US went through that in 2020. Nowdays, in my area, everything is back on the shelf and doctors offices don't wear mask.
I guess my tip is take this as an example of what a catastrophe looks like. Think about how you'll eat, drink, shelfter, etc.. in a real nasty even like a total collapse of a finacial system, government, war etc... Grocery stores won't be the answer
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I haven't been keeping up on covid news for awhile, but have begun to hear snippets like they're suggesting masking in New York again. Does anyone here know if there's a new variant or is it omicron re-infecting or something else entirely?
The CDC's change in guidance can be relevant. As you probably know, the new approach is based on county by county risk levels, with the risks assessed based on a combination of hospital beds capacity, hospital admissions, and the total number of new COVID cases.
IMU - as a far from expert person - some of the new variants are more transmissible, which would potentially increase new cases. (I'm saying "potentially" because of the probable behavior implications of low symptom or asymptomatic cases on testing, so that rates based on testing could mislead.) I don't know about NYC, but here we seem to be having an increasing staffing crisis (shortage) for hospitals. (I don't know for sure whether that affects the capacity measurements/estimations, but it's for sure a practical problem.)
So, two of the three factors may be trending toward higher risk here, and my county did just shift from low risk to medium risk in the CDC's evaluation scheme.
On the social front, mask use in public places has continued to drop here (per my subjective observation), with progressively fewer people wearing masks in public places (I'm mentally comparing same locations, i.e., Costco now to Costco earlier, when I say that). A fair fraction of people had been wearing masks in certain stores where now almost no one is. Also, the pressure from the public reduced masking recommendations/requirements here even in school settings where the youngest students aren't vaccine eligible (though that's reportedly maybe close). Presumably that would have some impact on community spread.
I don't know about NYC, but just looking at my area - where at least one local school system is going back to requiring masks for young students - it seems like some combination of factors can potentially lead to increases in cases and decreases in hospital capacity. Cautious authorities might decide to re-impose mask requirements, in that kind of situation.1 -
shockbishop wrote: »what? panic buying in 2022? The US went through that in 2020. Nowdays, in my area, everything is back on the shelf and doctors offices don't wear mask.
I guess my tip is take this as an example of what a catastrophe looks like. Think about how you'll eat, drink, shelfter, etc.. in a real nasty even like a total collapse of a finacial system, government, war etc... Grocery stores won't be the answer
This thread was started in 2020...6 -
The last of the stores I frequent finally took down their masks required signs and it's REALLY weird to see all that uncovered window.0
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@Fuzzipeg Quote: a brighter note from Cambridge. Stage 3 testing is in progress on a 77% effective Malaria vaccine in. It seems this breakthrough drew on information gained in understanding covid by another team scientist looking into covis to achieve this. (the AstraZeneca team)
HMMM isn't that what hydroxychloroquine is used to treat????0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »shockbishop wrote: »what? panic buying in 2022? The US went through that in 2020. Nowdays, in my area, everything is back on the shelf and doctors offices don't wear mask.
I guess my tip is take this as an example of what a catastrophe looks like. Think about how you'll eat, drink, shelfter, etc.. in a real nasty even like a total collapse of a finacial system, government, war etc... Grocery stores won't be the answer
This thread was started in 2020...
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Son's girlfriend went to wedding April 30 and got COVID May 3rd. (fully vaxed)
Son's close friends went to wedding May 7th, and got COVID May 10th. (fully vaxed)
Now, I am flying across the country May 26th for my nephew's wedding on May 28th, then flying back across the country on the 29th. I am fully expecting that Hubby and I will end up dealing with COVID that following week. Though I hope that I am wrong.9 -
At this point, I figure it is inevitable that we will get Covid, though we've managed to avoid it so far, AFAIK. Each variation has been more contagious but less virulent. Hopefully that will continue to be the case. I am hoping that the vaccinations I got will at least allow my immune system a chance to fight, though it seems that the boosters are effective for only a very short time and immunity from previous contagion is not happening at all.0
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spiriteagle99 wrote: »At this point, I figure it is inevitable that we will get Covid, though we've managed to avoid it so far, AFAIK. Each variation has been more contagious but less virulent. Hopefully that will continue to be the case. I am hoping that the vaccinations I got will at least allow my immune system a chance to fight, though it seems that the boosters are effective for only a very short time and immunity from previous contagion is not happening at all.
The treatments (such as Paxlovid) are more available/successful now, too, if started soon after symptoms begin. There was limited supply at first, but from what I've heard it's in good supply in the US, and reasonably available to those at higher risk.
Near-locally, Detroit's getting started on a push of the "test to treat" idea, with community-based testing sites where people can be screened for suitability to take Paxlovid, including people who have a positive home test.
https://www.michiganradio.org/health/2022-05-16/detroit-now-offering-test-to-treat-sites-with-free-covid-testing-and-treatment
I'd assume there might be similar programs in other large metro areas, and of course people with regular doctor relationships should have an avenue to get treatments if they act expediently.0 -
Re - my comment on the Malaria vaccine. if as is said the Cambridge, UK vaccine is 77% effective and passes stage 3 testing meaning it can go into general use in high Malaria areas that will mean fewer person will come down with Malaria. I was heartened by the possibility something as good as a vaccine for something which has laid so many low even causing deaths. Many after initial infection are repeatedly affected because it can start up again, like chicken pox gives rise to shingles particularly in later life, It has to be good. Branching from understanding gained of covid makes it even better in my view.
Thank you scientists.5 -
Should we be starting a "Monkeypox prep" thread??4
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It still sounds rather, dare I say, "Interesting" most of the 9 known cases in the UK yesterday were not connected to overseas travel. So they have been up close and personal to have contracted...............
I'd think you'd notice the lesions. But what do I know. I hope the medical profession have good PPE.2 -
It still sounds rather, dare I say, "Interesting" most of the 9 known cases in the UK yesterday were not connected to overseas travel. So they have been up close and personal to have contracted...............
I'd think you'd notice the lesions. But what do I know. I hope the medical profession have good PPE.
The last US outbreak in 2003 was caused by contact with pet prairie dogs that were co-housed with infected small mammals imported from Ghana. Human to human transmission is typically swapping spit or having sex or contact with the pus from a broken sore...but those sores don't typically show up for a couple of weeks after infection. I only swap spit and have sex with my wife, so I'm not too worried about it.7 -
From WaPo:Monkeypox is not known to spread easily between humans. The fact that cases are emerging in several countries at once — with signs of “sustained” transmission in people — is striking, said Aris Katzourakis, a professor of evolution and genomics at the University of Oxford.
“It’s either a lot of bad luck or something quite unusual happening here,” Katzourakis said.0 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »At this point, I figure it is inevitable that we will get Covid, though we've managed to avoid it so far, AFAIK. Each variation has been more contagious but less virulent. Hopefully that will continue to be the case. I am hoping that the vaccinations I got will at least allow my immune system a chance to fight, though it seems that the boosters are effective for only a very short time and immunity from previous contagion is not happening at all.
The more contagious but less virulent was believed to be the case with Omicron over previous variants and this info is found on reliable medical sites (e.g. CDC, Yale Medical). A recent large study in the US, however, found that not to be the case after factoring for immunity and medical risk factors. It's still a preprint so we'll see if that conclusion holds after peer review and if other studies reinforce that conclusion. However, the good news is that immunity through vaccinations or prior infections still reduces the risk of getting infected (even if less so for the newer variants) and significantly reduces the severity and risk of hospitalization and death.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-severe-previous-covid-variants-large-study-finds-2022-05-05/
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1601788/v1
I had my first confirmed contact with a COVID positive case last week. Did not catch it as far as I can tell, over a week later and no symptoms. This person was EVERYWHERE at work that week though and in contact with dozens of people. So far, I haven't heard of another positive case. We have near 100% vaccination.5 -
@The_Enginerd I have also read that although it is true that the new variants that dominate do so by being more infectious, it is a roll of the dice as to whether the illness they cause is more or less severe. Sorry, don't have sources handy. Sounds like you are out of the woods. Stay well!2
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My husband has Covid now.
Feeling pretty sick and miserable but ok at home.
He is now in isolation for 7 days.
Close contacts don't have to isolate here now so I can go out, just have to wear a mask in indoor public places and cant go to tier 1 or 2 health care settings unless emergency.
Which means I cant go to work for a week since I work in a tier 2 health setting - and just started new job so no sick leave.15 -
paperpudding wrote: »My husband has Covid now.
Feeling pretty sick and miserable but ok at home.
He is now in isolation for 7 days.
Close contacts don't have to isolate here now so I can go out, just have to wear a mask in indoor public places and cant go to tier 1 or 2 health care settings unless emergency.
Which means I cant go to work for a week since I work in a tier 2 health setting - and just started new job so no sick leave.
If you meet the criteria, you may be eligible for this payment https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/pandemic-leave-disaster-payment?context=603524 -
This morning was day two of trying to get outside and exercise since coming back north three weeks ago. While out there, I was reminded about COVID. I was walking along a numbered road (ie decent traffic). I passed a woman, and I stepped to the street to let her run by. The next person I encountered, at a block out, crossed the entire road to let me pass, and then came back again. Both people exchanged pleasantries (ie waved), but you would never see someone cross a road to avoid passing another person prior to COVID.7
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tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »My husband has Covid now.
Feeling pretty sick and miserable but ok at home.
He is now in isolation for 7 days.
Close contacts don't have to isolate here now so I can go out, just have to wear a mask in indoor public places and cant go to tier 1 or 2 health care settings unless emergency.
Which means I cant go to work for a week since I work in a tier 2 health setting - and just started new job so no sick leave.
If you meet the criteria, you may be eligible for this payment https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/pandemic-leave-disaster-payment?context=60352
Thanks for the suggestion tiptoe.
It talks about people being in isolation, which I am not - but I guess same applies for people who cannot go work because their work place is one of the places close contacts cannot go to
It says, among other things:
You must also meet both of the following requirements to be eligible:
you’ve lost at least 8 hours or a full day’s work
you have liquid assets of less than $10,000 on the first day of the period you’re claiming for.
My husband will lose about 16 hours of work- (he is semi retired and only works 2 days per week)
I will lose about 30 hours.
However we do have more than $10,000 in liquid assets (aka savings
) so we do not qualify.
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Paperpudding, I'm sorry the "rules" are so complicated. I hope all comes good soon for you both.
Please take care
Referring back to the next virus, monkey pox, the cases here are up to 70! We have health professionals isolating for three weeks! Seems international concerns are being voiced because it does not seem to be behaving as it did in the past.4 -
that's all the world needs - another new virus
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