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Fitness and diet myths that just won't go away
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Corina1143 wrote: »Donnagemmy wrote: »...eat more for breakfast, then medium for lunch and light light dinner..
Don't you think this was probably true for the person who originally said this? Like some of us say the opposite is true for us, some say count calories for a day, others say count for a week. Some say exercise doesn't matter, others think it's extremely important.
I don't really think it's a myth, just certainly not "one size fits all."
I think that's the point though; some people say this kind of thing as a blanket statement. E.g., "Breakfast is the most important meal of the day." As a blanket statement, not only is it a myth, it's not true.
Not all myths are false; they are just commonly-believed stories. Like the myth that washing dishes by hand uses less water than using a dishwasher. Modern dishwashers heat their own water, and they use very little water. As long as you don't pre-wash your dishes, and as long as you wash full loads, you probably use more water to wash by hand. Some myths cannot be true. Many cultures have creation myths. It might be that none of them are true, but for sure they cannot all be true because they are mutually exclusive.4 -
Corina1143 wrote: »Donnagemmy wrote: »...eat more for breakfast, then medium for lunch and light light dinner..
Don't you think this was probably true for the person who originally said this? Like some of us say the opposite is true for us, some say count calories for a day, others say count for a week. Some say exercise doesn't matter, others think it's extremely important.
I don't really think it's a myth, just certainly not "one size fits all."
But that is the same caveat as usual - nobody objects to breakfast is my biggest meal, I find weekly calorie counting better etc
The problem is when such things are presented as universal absolute musts rather than individual preferences.4 -
Don't let your toes go past your knees when squatting or lunging.
While I see a lot of this with new trainers, I've been seeing more on social media fitness. The caveat to this would really only be true if someone has knee issues or doing it pains their knees badly.
There are times in the day people's knees pass their toes especially when climbing stairs.
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Somebody posted
"If apple cider vinegar is that good for you, imagine what wine can do!"
That got me thinking about wine...and "rules"
"Never drink wine from a bottle that is bigger than your head"
That seemed reasonable enough in the context of "jug wines".
but then I experienced a remarkable older California Cabernet from Robert Mondavi that was bottled in a Jeroboam. It was magnificent.
So much for rules
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Cutting out gluten will solve all your issues.
Bread is bad.
I grew up on a very very heavy bread culture (Netherlands) and this one really bothers me. Most people there are not overweight. Americans stop picking on bread!!! It isn't bread that is making you fat and giving you all your woes.4 -
"You shouldn't eat butter. Because it's from an animal source. You should eat margarine instead. Because it's plant-based."
I remember this growing up in the '70s. I always said, "Eat the butter, just don't eat the whole stick." You shouldn't eat the whole stick of margarine either.
"You shouldn't eat lard. Because it's from an animal source. You should eat shortening instead. Because it's plant-based."
I even believed this for a while. Then we found out about trans-fats.
Nutrition science is still very young. If I were young and thinking about what I wanted to study and to make into a career, it might be nutrition science. I think it's fascinating. I would probably have contributed to many of the mistakes we made and are in the process of understanding better. I also wouldn't have been doing all the biology and hillslope hydrology I loved so much nor had a chance to help my community learn how to conserve water.
Please pass the butter.
And the salt.....
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"You shouldn't eat eggs. Cholesterol."
"Eggs are the best thing ever. Eat as many as you want."
"You shouldn't eat egg YOLKS. Only egg whites. Cholesterol."
"Eggs are the best things ever. Put a raw egg in your milkshake for more nutrition."
"Don't eat raw eggs. Salmonella."
"You shouldn't eat eggs. They'll kill ya."
"Eat eggs from hens that have been fortified so the eggs have more omega-3."
"Only eat eggs once or twice a week."
"You shouldn't scramble eggs before cooking because it exposes air to the yolks and makes them unhealthy."
"Scrambled eggs have more healthy fat than hard-cooked eggs."
"Eat eggs in moderation; they're little packets of protein and other nutrients."
Another example of nutrition science still working on getting the answers. I think we're getting closer.
My personal favorite lately has been braised eggs. Super easy. Super tasty. Heat a skillet to medium as you would for an over-easy egg. Add your butter or oil. When it's hot, add an egg or two, then add an ounce of water and put the lid on and wait two to three minutes, longer if you like the yolks cooked a little more. The steam cooks the top so you don't have to flip 'em, they don't stick to the pan, and they are just really tasty.
Second favorite is to start cooking a pot of hominy grits. When the grits are about halfway cooked, crack an egg or two on top, turn the heat down, and put the lid on for a few minutes. As the eggs begin to firm up, stir them into the grits. Oh my.5 -
Broscience of drinking a gallon of water a day. While drinking ENOUGH water is essential for good health, drinking a gallon of water a day isn't necessary but is a staple for most bros in the gym.
I see 15 year olds carry around a gallon jug with them and boney as hell asking why they aren't gaining weight.
Also, if you're not balancing your electrolytes with all that water, you can get cramps, nausea, etc.
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Broscience of drinking a gallon of water a day. While drinking ENOUGH water is essential for good health, drinking a gallon of water a day isn't necessary but is a staple for most bros in the gym.
I see 15 year olds carry around a gallon jug with them and boney as hell asking why they aren't gaining weight.
Also, if you're not balancing your electrolytes with all that water, you can get cramps, nausea, etc.
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If they're only drinking water, a gallon is about right.
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »Broscience of drinking a gallon of water a day. While drinking ENOUGH water is essential for good health, drinking a gallon of water a day isn't necessary but is a staple for most bros in the gym.
I see 15 year olds carry around a gallon jug with them and boney as hell asking why they aren't gaining weight.
Also, if you're not balancing your electrolytes with all that water, you can get cramps, nausea, etc.
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If they're only drinking water, a gallon is about right.
Geez, in metric please?
(long live Google)
I don't care if it's Harvard or not, a single number as a recommendation is ridiculous: a lot of exercise or not, hot weather or not, etc.
And their high end number includes all fluids (also from foods), they're not saying people need to drink 11.5/15.5 cups of water.3 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »Broscience of drinking a gallon of water a day. While drinking ENOUGH water is essential for good health, drinking a gallon of water a day isn't necessary but is a staple for most bros in the gym.
I see 15 year olds carry around a gallon jug with them and boney as hell asking why they aren't gaining weight.
Also, if you're not balancing your electrolytes with all that water, you can get cramps, nausea, etc.
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If they're only drinking water, a gallon is about right.
Geez, in metric please?
(long live Google)
I don't care if it's Harvard or not, a single number as a recommendation is ridiculous: a lot of exercise or not, hot weather or not, etc.
And their high end number includes all fluids (also from foods), they're not saying people need to drink 11.5/15.5 cups of water.
Several years ago, the US EPA changed its standards for the amount of fluoride added to water for water utilities who fluoridate water. Yes, I know fluoridating water is a very controversial topic. Fluorine is extremely toxic. It's also been seen as one of the most important improvements in public health along with chlorination. Before 2011, the guidance was to add fluoride to a level between .07 and 1.2 milligrams per liter (yep - metric!). One milligram per liter is about one part per million. That would be like putting one drop of vermouth in ten gallons of gin. I'd hardly call that a martini.
The EPA did some analysis. They realized that people get fluoride in other ways. Fluoride occurs naturally in tea, for example. People also sometimes get fluoride from beverages other than tap water. If the company that bottles your apple juice makes it from concentrate with fluoridated water, there's a dose there too.
The EPA also recognized that some people actually consumed considerably more water than others. People who do hard physical work drink more water than people who run a keyboard. People who work outdoors in a hot climate, even less physical work, drink more water than people who do equivalent work in air condition or in cooler climates. They reduced the recommendation to no more than 0.7 milligrams per liter to account for these differences. They also don't allow tap water to have more than 4.0 parts per million, but that's not important here.
When planning a raft trip down Grand Canyon, the guidance actually IS to drink a gallon of water each day. It's a good starting point for planning how much to bring or have the capacity to treat. I have never been in the summer, and I suspect you could easily drink much MORE. Of course you also have to make sure to keep electrolytes up. My trips have been in fall or spring, and we ended up drinking about half that much. Yes we had other beverages that had their own electrolytes, and we ate fruit and vegetables and food that also had water.
But no - the need to drink a gallon of water per day is indeed bro-science as @ninerbuff suggests.
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »Broscience of drinking a gallon of water a day. While drinking ENOUGH water is essential for good health, drinking a gallon of water a day isn't necessary but is a staple for most bros in the gym.
I see 15 year olds carry around a gallon jug with them and boney as hell asking why they aren't gaining weight.
Also, if you're not balancing your electrolytes with all that water, you can get cramps, nausea, etc.
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If they're only drinking water, a gallon is about right.
Geez, in metric please?
(long live Google)
I don't care if it's Harvard or not, a single number as a recommendation is ridiculous: a lot of exercise or not, hot weather or not, etc.
And their high end number includes all fluids (also from foods), they're not saying people need to drink 11.5/15.5 cups of water.
If you read the screen shot, it said an average (which means some will be higher and some lower) and yes it includes other sources of water. If you notice, I said if all they were drinking was water, the gallon was about right based on the average provided by Harvard.2 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »Broscience of drinking a gallon of water a day. While drinking ENOUGH water is essential for good health, drinking a gallon of water a day isn't necessary but is a staple for most bros in the gym.
I see 15 year olds carry around a gallon jug with them and boney as hell asking why they aren't gaining weight.
Also, if you're not balancing your electrolytes with all that water, you can get cramps, nausea, etc.
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If they're only drinking water, a gallon is about right.
Geez, in metric please?
(long live Google)
I don't care if it's Harvard or not, a single number as a recommendation is ridiculous: a lot of exercise or not, hot weather or not, etc.
And their high end number includes all fluids (also from foods), they're not saying people need to drink 11.5/15.5 cups of water.
If you read the screen shot, it said an average (which means some will be higher and some lower) and yes it includes other sources of water. If you notice, I said if all they were drinking was water, the gallon was about right based on the average provided by Harvard.
I did read the screenshot. It says 4 to 6 cups, depending on intake of other drinks and food. It implies 11.5/15.5 cups for people not ingesting fluids in any other way, whether it be drinks or food.
I can't imagine many people only drinking water AND only consuming foods that don't contain any moisture/water.
(PS would have been more useful in my opinion to state a range instead of an average. An average doesn't tell you how wide the spread is)2 -
(PS would have been more useful in my opinion to state a range instead of an average. An average doesn't tell you how wide the spread is)
If you put one hand in a bucket of ice and a little water (32F, 0C) and the other hand in a pot of near-boiling water (200F, 93C), on average you're pretty comfortable (116F, 50C - a little warmer than a n ice shower).
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Lol, they are kids..................being a yard duty at a middle school, soda, juices, power drinks (like Gatorade, etc.) are all part of these kids intake. I'm saying that these kids DON'T want to drink a gallon of water a day, but do because they see all the bodybuilders lugging around a gallon of water in the gym everyday.Theoldguy1 wrote: »Broscience of drinking a gallon of water a day. While drinking ENOUGH water is essential for good health, drinking a gallon of water a day isn't necessary but is a staple for most bros in the gym.
I see 15 year olds carry around a gallon jug with them and boney as hell asking why they aren't gaining weight.
Also, if you're not balancing your electrolytes with all that water, you can get cramps, nausea, etc.
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If they're only drinking water, a gallon is about right.
There are lots of teens that do cable flyes in the gym, not realizing it's NOT a mass building movement, but do them anyway because they see all the buffed dudes doing them.
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Chicken or the egg...which came first, mass or exercises?1
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Potatoes make you fàt.2
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Corina1143 wrote: »Potatoes make you fàt.
Fats make you fat.1 -
springlering62 wrote: »Corina1143 wrote: »Potatoes make you fàt.
Fats make you fat.
Sugar makes you fat.2 -
in the quantity I’ve eaten them over Christmas - they indeed do 🤣Corina1143 wrote: »Potatoes make you fàt.
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