Stop eating breakfast. Here's why.
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What I've been told is to eat 3 small meals and 3 snacks about 2 hours apart throughout the day. Granted I leared this with my lapband pre-diet, but I was told that it is a good idea for everyone beause it keeps your body from bottoming out during the day. Constant energy as opposed to highs and lows.0
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FFS
This can't be solved by witty banter back and forth.
It can only be solved by bare knuckle boxing... so hash it out. Do it. Just stop with the idiotic responses trying to "out do" eachother. :huh:0 -
i'm a mess, i haven't eaten since 10pm last night, so i ate after 8pm and i had some cho, i could feel it turning right to fat, then i skipped breakfast this morning and i think my muscles are atrophying away as we speak
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I eat breakfast although I am going to try eating it later and not as soon as I wake up. This is because I tend to get hungry between breakfast and lunch so closing that time gap I hope it will fill that void and temptation to snack.
ditto. im rarely hungry straight away and on the odd occasion i am, if i eat breakfast im hungry alll day then i end up struggling to stay within my calories. ive stopped calling my meals 'breakfast', 'lunch', 'dinner' etc when im logging on here. i just say first, second, third meal and snacks. so sometimes my first meal is at midday, sometimes its at 8.
i dont thnk breakfast is important. enough food is, and the right type of food no matter what time you eat it0 -
FFS
This can't be solved by witty banter back and forth.
It can only be solved by bare knuckle boxing... so hash it out. Do it. Just stop with the idiotic responses trying to "out do" eachother. :huh:
Wel I will lose cos I cant make a fist for *kitten* :happy:0 -
I can also guarantee you I will outperform you in any phsyical activity in that same stretch - yes, any.
Again, another ignorant statement because you don't know me nor do you know any of the other bodybuilders or athletes on this site.
P.S. Go look in the mirror and ask yourself, "Do I need to grow up?"0 -
FFS
This can't be solved by witty banter back and forth.
It can only be solved by bare knuckle boxing... so hash it out. Do it. Just stop with the idiotic responses trying to "out do" eachother. :huh:
My idiotic response regarding 'outdo'ing' is the exact point I'm making. Yes, you will LOSE weight like this (and any other absurd impossible to maintain diet). BUT, you will NOT perform anywhere close to potential, nor be doing your body any favors in it's health. Are we after PURE SCALE BASED WEIGHT LOSS or LONG-TERM FITNESS? If you want the first, go with it, if you want the latter, then this insn't the approach.0 -
You make me smile! :laugh:0
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I would also say you could lose weight by locking yourself in a room with no food for a month - but it won't be healthy. There are many ways to lose weight, but that is not our overarching goal here. The overarching goal is become fit. This isn't myweightlosspal.com. Fit is a long-term commitment to eating correctly, and building lean mass while decreasing (or in some rare cases) increasing body fat to a healthy level. Out of all that, the key is LONG-TERM. Our bodies are not meant to build up a full days store of immediate energy needs. There's a reason we get hungry regularly, because we need doses of calories to burn throughout the day. If your theory stood, we could simply eat once a week and be done with it until next Monday!
Back the LONG-TERM concept. Do you see yourself eating one meal for the rest of your life? If you do not, then it is a diet plan, and not a lifestyle change. Simply put, this concept is unworkable, unhealthy, and unmanageable. It is misguided, and one more silly diet scheme to sell a book, or a website, or a ThighMaster. Be sensible, eat right, workout hard, and you will get results.
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HOLY CRAP!
WHAT HAVE I UNLEASHED!?
Evidently breakfast is the golden calf of the myfitnesspal world. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to BBQ your golden goddess!
As a retort, first and foremost, half of you didn't even read the article, which is annoying.
I said in my post that skipping breakfast is one of the strategies I use to lose weight. I'm most certainly not starving myself, and I never said that it was impossible to eat breakfast and lose fat. That would be stupid of me.
My points were as follows;
1. Eating breakfast doesn't make your metabolism faster. In fact, it might (MIGHT, I said MIGHT) make it slower.
2. The morning is a great time to burn fat if you use it to your advantage. (a little fasted HIIT, anyone?)
3. The insulin response you get from carbs in the morning slows or even halts the process of using fat for energy.
As for how I look, I never compared myself to anyone else, or said anything that could be taken as a personal insult to anyone else, so it's disheartening that someone would discount what this article says based on how I look. Like my signature says, I've lost a LOT of weight, and learned a lot in my efforts to keep it off and take myself even further.
If you are finding success while eating breakfast as part of a healthy diet, then more power to you! As you get leaner, like I have, and you start to have trouble getting the last bit of fat off, you may need more advanced strategies to cut fat while trying to retain muscle.0 -
I think that the OP could be onto something, but to each their own. I always like to think of us as animals. I often wonder what animals have the luxury of waking up in the morning to find food waiting for them out in the open. I can't really think of any. That is why I like the idea of working out before eating. I feel like it simulates hunting or foraging for my first meal. I would also imagine that on some days, even the best hunters, don't find their food until 2 in the afternoon. I won't be trying it because I like to remain conscious and alert. I have found that I get cranky and kind of loopy if I don't eat.0
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The amount of misinformation on here sometimes makes me want to vomit.0
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I can also guarantee you I will outperform you in any phsyical activity in that same stretch - yes, any.
Again, another ignorant statement because you don't know me nor do you know any of the other bodybuilders or athletes on this site.
P.S. Go look in the mirror and ask yourself, "Do I need to grow up?"
The concept isn't about growing up or actually running a race against each other. The concept is YOU WILL NOT PERFORM WELL WITH A NUTRITION PLAN LIKE THIS. Period...I don't care which of the areas you pick - endurance, strength, etc. - if you put two equally fit people next to each other, and use your diet plan vs. a sensible one, you will lose.0 -
FFS
This can't be solved by witty banter back and forth.
It can only be solved by bare knuckle boxing... so hash it out. Do it. Just stop with the idiotic responses trying to "out do" eachother. :huh:
My idiotic response regarding 'outdo'ing' is the exact point I'm making. Yes, you will LOSE weight like this (and any other absurd impossible to maintain diet). BUT, you will NOT perform anywhere close to potential, nor be doing your body any favors in it's health. Are we after PURE SCALE BASED WEIGHT LOSS or LONG-TERM FITNESS? If you want the first, go with it, if you want the latter, then this insn't the approach.
But the article actually mentions body composition specifically, as opposed to scale weight. This article is about cutting fat while maintaining muscle.0 -
The amount of misinformation on here sometimes makes me want to vomit.
Well, there is a lot of information in this post, which is vomit worthy?0 -
I can also guarantee you I will outperform you in any phsyical activity in that same stretch - yes, any.
Again, another ignorant statement because you don't know me nor do you know any of the other bodybuilders or athletes on this site.
P.S. Go look in the mirror and ask yourself, "Do I need to grow up?"
The concept isn't about growing up or actually running a race against each other. The concept is YOU WILL NOT PERFORM WELL WITH A NUTRITION PLAN LIKE THIS. Period...I don't care which of the areas you pick - endurance, strength, etc. - if you put two equally fit people next to each other, and use your diet plan vs. a sensible one, you will lose.
I don't understand your arguement. You are saying that I won't perform well because I didn't eat breakfast?
Please clarify and then we'll continue this debacle.0 -
I think everyone is waiting . . .0
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There have been NUMEROUS studies on the effects of eating breakfast and weight loss.
Pretty much all of them say, statistically, you are much more likely to eat healthier choices and less calories if you eat breakfast.
Is in necessary? Probably not. If you are a 100% dedicated, self driven person that never gives into their urges you might beat the statistics. But recommending it to the masses who WON'T beat the statistics doesn't help them.
The average person should eat breakfast. Period.
The OP is simply stating that it isnt required to eat breakfast to lose weight nor be healthy.
And actually Martin Berkhan has proven studies that have showed more people have lost weight by skipping breakfast and eating higher carbs at night.
When I say studies, I mean double blind medical studies. Not broscience studies by people attempting to sell books or programs or supplements.0 -
I can also guarantee you I will outperform you in any phsyical activity in that same stretch - yes, any.
Again, another ignorant statement because you don't know me nor do you know any of the other bodybuilders or athletes on this site.
P.S. Go look in the mirror and ask yourself, "Do I need to grow up?"
The concept isn't about growing up or actually running a race against each other. The concept is YOU WILL NOT PERFORM WELL WITH A NUTRITION PLAN LIKE THIS. Period...I don't care which of the areas you pick - endurance, strength, etc. - if you put two equally fit people next to each other, and use your diet plan vs. a sensible one, you will lose.
except you're not really talking about 2 different diets but meal plans, assuming identical macros, why would a meal plan that includes breakfast have better results/performance then one without?0 -
There have been NUMEROUS studies on the effects of eating breakfast and weight loss.
Pretty much all of them say, statistically, you are much more likely to eat healthier choices and less calories if you eat breakfast.
Is in necessary? Probably not. If you are a 100% dedicated, self driven person that never gives into their urges you might beat the statistics. But recommending it to the masses who WON'T beat the statistics doesn't help them.
The average person should eat breakfast. Period.
The OP is simply stating that it isnt required to eat breakfast to lose weight nor be healthy.
And actually Martin Berkhan has proven studies that have showed more people have lost weight by skipping breakfast and eating higher carbs at night.
When I say studies, I mean double blind medical studies. Not broscience studies by people attempting to sell books or programs or supplements.
So you're referring to the NIH and other medical studies that Martin Berkhan links on his site? He also gives all of his Intermittent Fasting methods and instruction for free on his site. Also he doesn't try to sell supplements, he merely recommends which ones to get like Scivations BCAA's which are the leading BCAA supps in the world. I use them still to this day.
Not sure what you are getting at here bro.0 -
There have been NUMEROUS studies on the effects of eating breakfast and weight loss.
Pretty much all of them say, statistically, you are much more likely to eat healthier choices and less calories if you eat breakfast.
Is in necessary? Probably not. If you are a 100% dedicated, self driven person that never gives into their urges you might beat the statistics. But recommending it to the masses who WON'T beat the statistics doesn't help them.
The average person should eat breakfast. Period.
The OP is simply stating that it isnt required to eat breakfast to lose weight nor be healthy.
And actually Martin Berkhan has proven studies that have showed more people have lost weight by skipping breakfast and eating higher carbs at night.
When I say studies, I mean double blind medical studies. Not broscience studies by people attempting to sell books or programs or supplements.
among others...
Taylor MA et al. Compared with nibbling, neither gorging nor a morning fast affect short-term energy balance in obese patients in a chamber calorimeter. Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 2001 Apr;25(4):519-28.
Verboeket-van de Venne WP et al. Influence of the feeding frequency on nutrient utilization in man: consequences for energy metabolism. Eur J Clin Nutr. 1991 Mar;45(3):161-9.0 -
The only way I would be willing to give up breakfast (& lunch!?) is if I had the luxury of sleeping until 2:00. Nope, not gonna happen.
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Ok, have I got your attention now? For a long time we've been fed the idea that breakfast is important. In fact, people call it the most important meal of the day (mostly cereal companies. . .jk). I started to learn about a year ago that this wasn't true. The more I researched and read, the more I realised that we were getting bad info. I started skipping breakfast and even lunch, not eating until I got off work around 3, and I started losing weight on demand and felt great once I got used to it. There are programs that make use of this idea, such as intermittent fasting, which I've used with success.
I posted another article from this author the other day, but I just found this one and again feel the need to let everyone else read this. I believe strongly in the things this author believes in and they have all worked for me. Yes, he does have programs he's designed, but I'm not trying to sell anything. I just want everyone to have this information.
http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/nutrition/logic-does-not-apply-part-2-breakfast/
I really think its a matter of personal preference.
Within the last 8 months I've gone through periods where I:
1. Ate at random times throughout the day but kept my protein up. Strength trained 2 - 3 x a week. I lost weight.
2. Being Muslim, I fasted for 30 days for Ramadhan (kind of like IF .. i oould only eat after 8 pm). I kept my macros in check and left myself at 500 calorie deficit everyday. I was also only half functional in the morning... but I lost weight.
3. Started eating about 300 calories every 3 - 4 hrs, keeping my macros & calories in check... guess what? I lost weight.
I don't think telling people to stop eating breakfast is the key to their weight loss. Causation =/= correlation.0 -
Eat CLEAN foods when you are hungry. Eat less calories than you burn. It doesn't matter what time you eat. You can lose weight eating breakfast or you can lose weight eating all of your calories in one sitting once per day. Any website or program that says one way or the other is better is just BS.0
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Eat CLEAN foods when you are hungry. Eat less calories than you burn. It doesn't matter what time you eat. You can lose weight eating breakfast or you can lose weight eating all of your calories in one sitting once per day. Any website or program that says one way or the other is better is just BS.
But I do much better when I have a healthy breakfast. So, to each his own.
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YIKES ...so many passionate people!0
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You will have to pry the bacon from my cold, dead hands.
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I read it as "blah blah blah.... magic formula.. blah blah blah...."
No thanks.
^ bahahahaha Hilarious. I also disagree. I have a screwy schedule but seriously, if I don't eat when I get up (wheither that be at 9 in the morning or 2 in the afternoon) I tend to make worse choices throughout the rest of my day. If I wake up and make a good choice with whatever I eat then, I tend to make better choices throughout the day. I also agree with whoever said that that is called starving yourself. Its more of, you're starving yourself all day and then beinging at dinner. I don't see how that could possibly be healthy for you.0 -
You will have to pry the bacon from my cold, dead hands.
That is all.
MMmmmm... pass the bacon!
:drinker: :drinker: :drinker:
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I found the article interesting and I like that it's backed with actual cited studies. What I don't like is the vague usage of the term 'breakfast'. Is it assuming that you're consuming food the second you get up? The closest I found was "maybe we should hold breakfast off for a bit when we get up, at least until cortisol levels return to normal and growth hormone levels fall naturally, which takes a few hours"
A few hours? Couldn't we get something a bit more solid than that for an article with so much research? I get up at 4.30, do my workout, then have food at around 8 or so, depending. That's three and a half hours in. If you're getting up at 8, then eating lunch around noon would be four hours.
So... what's the breakdown? Calling things 'breakfast' and 'lunch' is fine, but for people aren't operating on your schedule, well, it can get confusing. If it were 'don't eat until you're x hours into your day' then maybe the fallout would be less.0
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