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Great Point- I have steered clear of these threads lately for those kind of things.

If people ate healthly for awhile no junk not too much sugar and then had it they wouldn't want it no more because the effects it does on your bod isn't worth it-

My coworkers made me cake for my birthday and were concerned I wouldn't eat it but I told them I would have a piece well let me tell you it gave me the worse headache- My body isn't used to junk food/crap food anymore- I either get headaches or an upset stomach and become very sluggish for 2 days afterwards- So in the end all that crap isn't worth it- If you stay on the ban-wagon and have will power you won't even be tempted because non of those foods are worth feeling like crap.

My co-workers gave me an edible fruit bouquet for my birthday. The whole office ate fruit that day!

Dave,

I think it's funny. You are at the same place I was about 8 months ago with MFP. Don't fall into my trap and let it get to you so much that you leave. It took me a long time to learn to pick my battles here. Some people just want people to tell them "It's ok".

I don't believe in it, I'd rather someone reinforce the fact that I screwed up then have people coddle me and make me feel better. The simple fact is, in the long run, the only way to suceed in this is to generate the will power to not MAKE the mistakes in the first place.

As to your question, I'll answer you, and I think this is the one and ONLY correct answer. Validation. People tell others "it's ok, tomorrow you can start over." . It's a cop out, and a validation of bad habits because these people, somewhere deep down inside, aren't confident that they won't do the same thing some day, and if they do, they want the same things said to them. You know it's true, everyone knows it's true, hell, it's the first base instinct that pops into my head when I see one of these threads, then I QUASH it with all available strength.

:grumble: suck up-- :grumble:

You're just jealous you didn't think of it Marla.

There's 4 pages of responses and I haven't read them all.... I'm just answering the initial question.

Why do we tell people to wait until tomorrow? Probably because we are referencing the 24 hours of food/exercise diary-ness. midnight to midnight.... if it's 2pm and the day has been screwed up, I often see responses suggesting the person do extra exercise to help, have a smaller dinner, etc -
The "Tomorrow" refers to having a better day from beginning to end without "problems" to fix in the middle.

Tomorrow starts a new day - you start out fresh, that's all... it's not something that's giving the person an excuse to pig out and be lazy for the remaining hours until midnight. I've NEVER seen advice telling the person to do that!

Oh - and regarding their coming here to post instead of exercising: This site is part of a lot of our weight loss programs - it is a place for support and learning. I don't think taking 5 minutes of their time to share a bad experience is a sign of laziness or lack of commitment, it tells me their mind is on weight loss and keeping on track- otherwise they wouldn't even THINK of coming here!!

Don't chase people away or scare them into feeling guilty of stupid for asking for help and support - that's what this site is here for!!

Dave,

I think it's funny. You are at the same place I was about 8 months ago with MFP. Don't fall into my trap and let it get to you so much that you leave. It took me a long time to learn to pick my battles here. Some people just want people to tell them "It's ok".

I don't believe in it, I'd rather someone reinforce the fact that I screwed up then have people coddle me and make me feel better. The simple fact is, in the long run, the only way to suceed in this is to generate the will power to not MAKE the mistakes in the first place.

As to your question, I'll answer you, and I think this is the one and ONLY correct answer. Validation. People tell others "it's ok, tomorrow you can start over." . It's a cop out, and a validation of bad habits because these people, somewhere deep down inside, aren't confident that they won't do the same thing some day, and if they do, they want the same things said to them. You know it's true, everyone knows it's true, hell, it's the first base instinct that pops into my head when I see one of these threads, then I QUASH it with all available strength.

So you're validating Dave's feelings of frustration.

Dave,

I think it's funny. You are at the same place I was about 8 months ago with MFP. Don't fall into my trap and let it get to you so much that you leave. It took me a long time to learn to pick my battles here. Some people just want people to tell them "It's ok".

I don't believe in it, I'd rather someone reinforce the fact that I screwed up then have people coddle me and make me feel better. The simple fact is, in the long run, the only way to suceed in this is to generate the will power to not MAKE the mistakes in the first place.

As to your question, I'll answer you, and I think this is the one and ONLY correct answer. Validation. People tell others "it's ok, tomorrow you can start over." . It's a cop out, and a validation of bad habits because these people, somewhere deep down inside, aren't confident that they won't do the same thing some day, and if they do, they want the same things said to them. You know it's true, everyone knows it's true, hell, it's the first base instinct that pops into my head when I see one of these threads, then I QUASH it with all available strength.

And I'm glad you're back mista:smooched:

What I don't understand about people and the mentality of 'ruining' a day is why they seem to want to apply the term 'ruined' to it. I think SHBoss is correct in stating that it's for validation that they already screwed up and are now allowed to continuing screwing up because they've already blown it. I've been guilty of maintaining this mentality until a year or so ago when I realized that I could not longer say things like 'Aw man, I overate and had two brownies! Well, I already messed up and ruined my day, I might as well have 2 more!' um...hello! Even if I messed up by having the initial 2 brownies, it is ALWAYS better to just have 2 brownies than to have 4! I guess I was thinking calories just stopped adding up after I'd go over and I'd just be either 'under' or 'over' and if I was over, well, I might as well enjoy it. Bad idea.

I totally agree with the premise of Dave's thread here - that we can (and absolutely will!) make mistakes, but instead of seeking validation of our errors and throwing up our hands and calling it a 'ruined day' or a 'cheat day', why don't we take a moment, breath, put down the brownie and either eat healthy for the remainder of the day or (better yet) take some time to work off the initial two brownies.

We all make mistakes. We all want to know that other's fall off the wagon as well... however, once off the wagon we have the choice of either rolling down the hill and off of the cliff or running to catch back up with the wagon. I don't always succeed, but I'd always try to run and hop back on! And hell, maybe I’ll burn off those two brownies in the process! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I figure if I eat it I then need to go outside and walk with my kids or work in the yard or clean the house to burn extra calories. If I keep moving I keep burning. Then try and eat right the rest of the day.

It's ok Dave. Tomorrow, less people will make the same posts. I
m sure of it. Just as sure as I am that the
enter
key on my keyboard being in the place where the apostrophe/quotes key should be is a huge pain in my @$$.

I agree that "support" should be the kick in the buttocks we need to get moving sometimes. Tough love. Coddling is for encouraging kids to poop in a toilet instead of their pants. We're all adults. If I ever poop in my pants, don't feed me any "tomorrow" talk, kick me in the rear and tell me to get with the program. Then you throw in some "you can do it" for support. (You might not want to actually kick someone in the rear if they've pooped their pants. Just sayin') :huh:

Good post.

I also wanted to mention that sometimes when people post about how they fell off the wagon .... that maybe its not that they want to hear "oh tomorrow is another day... blah blah crap crap"... Maybe perhaps they just need to feel like they are OWNING their mistakes and by sharing them with their community/family they are holding themselves more accountable....just a thought...

I think this is getting silly. Everyone deserves the opportunity to "whine" on these boards, if that's what they want to use them for. You can coddle them or you can go the tough-love route. Doesn't mean either way is right or wrong.