please tell me i'm not the only one.
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Ron Paul - 2012
Oh herrow new best friend!
Beat ya too it
RP is slightly batty, but he's by far the best man for the job. Too bad the sad reality is you have to pick a party.0 -
4 - For those of you that keep saying we need to "go out and vote" and "make a change" all I can really do is laugh. I'm sorry that you still believe that voting does anything in this country. I really am. I don't hate the United States but I think it's more than obvious that our political system is corrupt. Politicians have one agenda, and that's making money. They are given information for insider trading on a regular basis and they can't be arrested for it. They did a story on this on 60 Minutes, which you can google if you'd like. So, no, I don't believe that if I go and peacefully protest in DC and vote for what I believe in that it would actually make a difference. I'm a registered voter, and I vote in every election, but again I really have little faith that it matters much anyway.
totally agreed. it's the "democracy" of the united states.0 -
America is the best place because anyone can go from rags to riches if you apply yourself and be wise with the money that you earn and work hard. The opportunity is out there if you aim for it and do everything in your power morally to get it. You are not even out of school yet, you can have a very bright future. The whole world can be yours. It just takes time.
you're living in american dream. for your own good, wake up. fast.0 -
I liked this quote. I think it is overexposure to media. It's not going to get "real bad" soon. It is what it is. These times repeat themselves over and over again.Relax, you're just suffering from media overexposure.
No matter where you go you won't be as well off as you are here in the USA.
The same things have been going on since not only the 1960's, but all the way back to the early 1800's.
People have also been predicting the end of the world for the past several hundred years.
My sister is falling prey to some of these people who are promoting their scare tactics. They say the fecal matter is going to strike the oscillating device and the whole economy will collapse and there will be roving bands of thieves coming to steal your food and fuel. But oddly enough, if you wish to spend some money with these guys they will be happy to sell you books on how to protect yourself, storage units to keep your food, secret lockers to hide your stuff, and freeze-dried food enough to last you a year.
Follow the money trail..those who are looking to make a profit off the 'current conditions' are not to be trusted.0 -
Ok... So move?0
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I lived abroad until I was 17 yrs old then moved full time to the US, then in 2000 to 2011 I began traveling and living in Europe, Asia and the Middle east. Folks in the US have no idea what it is like to live in say India or Egypt for example, not to mention Africa. I think if more folks 'lived' in this other countries they would feel truely blessed to live in the US and have the opportunity to Vote to make changes, But changes take time. Visiting these places on holiday is never the same as living in one of them and exeriencing their polical issues, etc. Just a thought.0
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omg, you people.......0
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come to europe. we're cool
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I think if more folks 'lived' in this other countries they would feel truely blessed to live in the US and have the opportunity to Vote to make changes,
oh god. i will stop looking at this topic right now.0 -
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I live in Wisconsin, and I am with a majority of my state that is trying to recall my Governor. Along this process, he has been and is still trying to continue to pass laws that are making a recall near impossible. So basically, the laws have been in place for years, but now suddenly when he is getting recalled, they must be changed. Can we all say CORRUPTION!! So if my governor in my little state is this corrupt, how bad do you people think the rest of the countries politicians are??? If you believe that they aren't, then you are fooling yourselves.
I have voted in every election (and not just presidential ones, thank you). I am thankful for our military (my brother served 12 years....HooRah!). But to say that I am proud of our country? No, not all the time, and certainly not a lot lately. I love how the anti-OWS people keep saying that what they are doing is so wrong and that we are getting misinformation. HAHAHAHAHA!!! What information? The mianstream media has stripped it down so much. And why? MONEY $$$$$$!!! Who do you think owns them? The 1%!! Duh!!!
Here's to break it down: (And I say "we" as our country)
We don't particularly care for foreigners. We continue to tell everyone that governized health care just cannot work here, and show how 'horrible' it is in other countries. We feel that our religian (Christianity) is the ONLY religion to be. We do not want people to protest against governmental and big business wrong doings.
Scares the poop out of me! It's all a little too, dare I say, Hitler-esque for me!!!
As for the answer to the topic poster: No honey you aren't the only one. Will I move out of our country? No, probably not. That is what they want....so the country can be filled with only "like" people. No, I'm gonna cause as much trouble as I can. And I'm sure I just did. :laugh:0 -
I live in Wisconsin, and I am with a majority of my state that is trying to recall my Governor. Along this process, he has been and is still trying to continue to pass laws that are making a recall near impossible. So basically, the laws have been in place for years, but now suddenly when he is getting recalled, they must be changed. Can we all say CORRUPTION!! So if my governor in my little state is this corrupt, how bad do you people think the rest of the countries politicians are??? If you believe that they aren't, then you are fooling yourselves.
I have voted in every election (and not just presidential ones, thank you). I am thankful for our military (my brother served 12 years....HooRah!). But to say that I am proud of our country? No, not all the time, and certainly not a lot lately. I love how the anti-OWS people keep saying that what they are doing is so wrong and that we are getting misinformation. HAHAHAHAHA!!! What information? The mianstream media has stripped it down so much. And why? MONEY $$$$$$!!! Who do you think owns them? The 1%!! Duh!!!
Here's to break it down: (And I say "we" as our country)
We don't particularly care for foreigners. We continue to tell everyone that governized health care just cannot work here, and show how 'horrible' it is in other countries. We feel that our religian (Christianity) is the ONLY religion to be. We do not want people to protest against governmental and big business wrong doings.
Scares the poop out of me! It's all a little too, dare I say, Hitler-esque for me!!!
As for the answer to the topic poster: No honey you aren't the only one. Will I move out of our country? No, probably not. That is what they want....so the country can be filled with only "like" people. No, I'm gonna cause as much trouble as I can. And I'm sure I just did. :laugh:
yet another amazing opinion i agree with. I was going to say something about the government controlling media but there are so many people who are naive and think that freedom of speech keeps that from happening. Ugh. I really think this nation is nowhere near the ideal that our founding fathers had for us. At all.0 -
You people seem to be suffering from overexposure to Fox News, lol.
The sky will not fall.
The seas will not swallow us whole.
The sun will rise again.
Relax.0 -
^^LOL^^ Sky isn't going to fall!
Well, since you mention it! Going to go look at some land in Mexico. It may be my future home. So I'm looking forward to moving there in the future and stop working for a job that is just sticking it to me every year. Sure things can be worse... but they can also be much better... and very likely in another country!0 -
Some of you youngsters may want to Google "Y2K".
That was only 11 years ago but I realize some of you were only in grade school and may not have really paid attention to what was going on in Current Events.
The world was gonna end. There was going to be rioting in the streets. People stockpiled food and weapons.
Nothign happened, except a bunch of hucksters made a bunch of money selling survival supplies to people who believed them.0 -
Well said.The answer is not to get out of the country. The solution to the problem is to take a stand, get active in politics, vote, DO SOMETHING to better the country.
funny thing is i do. i vote and i've gone to a couple city council meetings. and i went to the gulf to help clean up the oil spill. i do clean up projects for my city and i have gone to 18 protests. i recycle and i rescue abandoned animals. i make differences here and there but nothing that can make a sufficient change to the government.
I hope you enjoy Canada... It isn't uncommon for your generation to not appreciate the gifts this country has to offer. Just the fact that you can speak negatively of your country without consequence is a gift provided to you by the very country you speak poorly of - ironic...
My husband fought for everyone in this country and is diasabled now for it.
If you don't like it here, feel free to move. :explode:0 -
Guess there are American's and their are fair weather Americans...
I'm proud to say I am an American - In good times and in bad, this is the best country in the world! I wholeheartedly welcome all those that don't agree to find happiness elsewhere - Maybe it's the lack of faith that is half the problem...
I love this quote and I totally agree.
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There is no better place to live. there is no "real" freedom anywhere. You have to create your own little bubble and live in it. Stop reading the news.
I have come to realize that is the only way to be happy in this world. Besides coming on MFP!!0 -
Well said.The answer is not to get out of the country. The solution to the problem is to take a stand, get active in politics, vote, DO SOMETHING to better the country.
funny thing is i do. i vote and i've gone to a couple city council meetings. and i went to the gulf to help clean up the oil spill. i do clean up projects for my city and i have gone to 18 protests. i recycle and i rescue abandoned animals. i make differences here and there but nothing that can make a sufficient change to the government.
I hope you enjoy Canada... It isn't uncommon for your generation to not appreciate the gifts this country has to offer. Just the fact that you can speak negatively of your country without consequence is a gift provided to you by the very country you speak poorly of - ironic...
My husband fought for everyone in this country and is diasabled now for it.
If you don't like it here, feel free to move. :explode:
All VERY well said. And thank your husband for fighing for our country 0 -
People get the government they deserve. America is full of lazy, entitled crybabies, hence the poor excuses for "leaders" we have in Washington these days.
I wish that just one of these people who claim they're going to move to another country would actually grow a pair and do it. The fewer whiners, the better.0 -
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My husband fought for everyone in this country and is diasabled now for it.
If you don't like it here, feel free to move. :explode:"
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I thank him from the bottom of my heart. He is a true hero!0 -
Some of you youngsters may want to Google "Y2K".
That was only 11 years ago but I realize some of you were only in grade school and may not have really paid attention to what was going on in Current Events.
The world was gonna end. There was going to be rioting in the streets. People stockpiled food and weapons.
Nothign happened, except a bunch of hucksters made a bunch of money selling survival supplies to people who believed them.
Yes there was Y2K and there was the whole stupid thing earlier in the year that the world was going to end. And you have the crazies that think 2012 is the end as well.
But I don't think that we are talking about a "fad" type of thing here. We're are talking about a downward slide that has been happening for a long time.0 -
I'm a lawyer, and I feel that way. I've watched the PATRIOT ACT get passed without any serious debate right before I passed the bar. Has anyone actually read this legislation? It's scarier then hell. Secret courts, secret judges, "sneak and peek" warrants that don't even have "probable cause" as a standard to invade your privacy--without you ever knowing it happened. They can even monitor the library books you check out. OWS protesters getting beaten up. Government officials having a priest, yes a priest, escorted out of a public town meeting for criticizing the local government when political speech is supposed to be the most protected speech there is. Add to it a completely ineffective Congress and President. Republicans who will stand in the way of anything passing that will benefit the American people just to thwart a second Obama term--pure treason in my opinion. No health care for so many of us. For those of us who have it, it's cost prohibitive and awful. A financially and morally bankrupt government hijacked by the Tea Party---people who couldn't pass a bill benefiting the super rich fast enough, but who finally found a tax they like--against the middle class. My husband, also a lawyer, and I both want to leave.0
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The fewer lawyers, the better, too.0
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I wish that everyone could seperate these two things: dislike for government, and respect for people who have served in the military. I am very thankful (like most people) of all that they do. I have family that have served, I have classmates who have served , some who have given their lives. Those that choose to serve in the military are among the bravest.
A dislike for our goverment (and how it is run) has NOTHING to do with this!!! I am getting really sick and tired of being told that I am disrespectful to our military because I don't like how certain aspects of our government are being run.0 -
I live in Wisconsin, and I am with a majority of my state that is trying to recall my Governor. Along this process, he has been and is still trying to continue to pass laws that are making a recall near impossible. So basically, the laws have been in place for years, but now suddenly when he is getting recalled, they must be changed. Can we all say CORRUPTION!! So if my governor in my little state is this corrupt, how bad do you people think the rest of the countries politicians are??? If you believe that they aren't, then you are fooling yourselves.
I have voted in every election (and not just presidential ones, thank you). I am thankful for our military (my brother served 12 years....HooRah!). But to say that I am proud of our country? No, not all the time, and certainly not a lot lately. I love how the anti-OWS people keep saying that what they are doing is so wrong and that we are getting misinformation. HAHAHAHAHA!!! What information? The mianstream media has stripped it down so much. And why? MONEY $$$$$$!!! Who do you think owns them? The 1%!! Duh!!!
Here's to break it down: (And I say "we" as our country)
We don't particularly care for foreigners. We continue to tell everyone that governized health care just cannot work here, and show how 'horrible' it is in other countries. We feel that our religian (Christianity) is the ONLY religion to be. We do not want people to protest against governmental and big business wrong doings.
Scares the poop out of me! It's all a little too, dare I say, Hitler-esque for me!!!
As for the answer to the topic poster: No honey you aren't the only one. Will I move out of our country? No, probably not. That is what they want....so the country can be filled with only "like" people. No, I'm gonna cause as much trouble as I can. And I'm sure I just did. :laugh:
yet another amazing opinion i agree with. I was going to say something about the government controlling media but there are so many people who are naive and think that freedom of speech keeps that from happening. Ugh. I really think this nation is nowhere near the ideal that our founding fathers had for us. At all.
I completely agree with both of you.0 -
Ive noticed most of the disallusioned here seem to be young people (men and women under 30 or so). I wonder why that is? Could it be they were brought up in the world where they were entertained most of their childhood and teen years? My kids were always going somewhere, doing something with someone, spending money here and there, every night they were somewhere having fun. To grow up that way and then have the reality of the real cold world hit you in the face is very hard and frightening. To be expected to take care of yourself just doesnt seem fair. That is why so many think that it is the governments business to support or take care of them. That is why this uprising of the groups wanting the rich and the Corporations to share their wealth with them. It doenst matter about all the years and years of hard study, work, and late nights went into making that money, they simply want it now. This is not to insult anyone, its just my view as I see it from my experiences.
Amen!0 -
I wish that everyone could seperate these two things: dislike for government, and respect for people who have served in the military. I am very thankful (like most people) of all that they do. I have family that have served, I have classmates who have served , some who have given their lives. Those that choose to serve in the military are among the bravest.
A dislike for our goverment (and how it is run) has NOTHING to do with this!!! I am getting really sick and tired of being told that I am disrespectful to our military because I don't like how certain aspects of our government are being run.
I was going to say this but afraid I would get insults! Thanks for being the one to say it.
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Ive noticed most of the disallusioned here seem to be young people (men and women under 30 or so). I wonder why that is? Could it be they were brought up in the world where they were entertained most of their childhood and teen years? My kids were always going somewhere, doing something with someone, spending money here and there, every night they were somewhere having fun. To grow up that way and then have the reality of the real cold world hit you in the face is very hard and frightening. To be expected to take care of yourself just doesnt seem fair. That is why so many think that it is the governments business to support or take care of them. That is why this uprising of the groups wanting the rich and the Corporations to share their wealth with them. It doenst matter about all the years and years of hard study, work, and late nights went into making that money, they simply want it now. This is not to insult anyone, its just my view as I see it from my experiences.
Sadly I grew up very fast because my family was poor growing up. We got a lot of things second hand, we lived in a ****ty apartment complex where I got molested by other neighborhood boys that their parents didn't give two cents about them (no sympathy needed) and we ate a LOT of ramen, peanut butter or tuna sandwiches. We got free lunch, never had health care as children and I didn't go to the dentist until I HAD to have a root canal at the age of 23. Nothing was EVER handed to me, and I worked as soon as I was old enough to baby sit. But yet I see how our government treats people like (read my previous post about healthcare). I was told I could not get food stamps to help me through college because as a college student I am required to work 20 hours on top of my school load. As I am trying to get into veterinary school i don't have to time work AND mantain a 3.72 gpa. But yet the government doesn't care about my aspirations. But if i got knocked up I could get medicaid, food stamps, housing and even emergency 1000 bucks of cash!
Poor you - I work, attend NURSING school and provide insurance for myself and my two children... It CAN be done, and it isn't the governments job to make it easy on you. PS... I also carry at 3.8 GPA and will graduate in May.0
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