when DID this becomer more attractive?!?! (pic.....i hope)
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I think both ends are attractive body types.....even though they're thin they still look fit, just slender. I don't see anything wrong with the thinner or curvier body type.0
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it´s possible the clothes look great on those racks ...but stripp ´em down naked and I think most men would prefer the beautifull women ahead of those skinny girls.
dieting gone wrong if you ask me and not at all healthy looking.0 -
Every body is beautiful.
I'm not in to body shaming.
All of those girls seem to be happy where they are, and they are therefor beautiful.
They might be slightly underweight, but to me they don't look like they have any sort of tragically unhealthy body.
It's not fair to compare these girls, they're all different people with different lifestyles and different ideals and different ideas of what is attractive.
If you don't think it's attractive then fine, but you don't have to share an image all over the internet and encourage others to publicly shame them.
That's not right. That won't ever be right. No matter what size.0 -
OMG shes looking a little thick maybe someone needs to slap a cheesburer out of her hand!!Or tell her to step away from the Twinkes.
^^That is no diffrent than saying thin girls need to eat a burger ect ect0 -
Oh..not again. :laugh:
and just because I'm so tired of seeing that Marilyn pic used in these comparisons -Marilyn M was tiny, the only time she was heavier was during Some Like it Hot - the pic that's used above. Her dresses were custom, not off the rack and almost all were 34" bust and 22" waist, the DRESS - not her body wearing a waist cincher or torpedo bra.
Measurements and dress auctions - http://www.deepglamour.net/deep_glamour/2011/06/the-full-skinny-marilyn-monroe-was-tinyand-so-were-rita-hayworth-judy-garland-grace-kelly-barbra-str.html. I believe she was something like 5'4 and 115 pounds. In a Simplicity pattern from the 50s she'd need about a size 12/14 for her bust, a size 6 for her waist and a 10/12 for her hips.
My 50s dresses and patterns are all size 8 or 10/12 yet in today's ready to wear clothing I'm a 0 or 2. Granted, I have to wear a padded torpedo bra to fill the bust darts, but still. :laugh:
Love your post and the pic, NatalieM!
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totally agree!0
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I think so long as a body is a healthy body it's an attractive or "hot" body in it's own individual way.
But yea personal opinion, Elizabeth Taylor was gorgeous! But I think Keira Knightley is attractive in her own way too. She's very athletic and as always been that thin-look at her in Bend in Like Beckham she was 17 and put on a diet to bulk up!
Some people have it in their DNA to be extremely thin, athletic or on the thicker side. So long as they are healthy that's all that really matters.0 -
To be honest, I don't think it's fair to use Kiera in these sorts of comparisons, because she's naturally that thin, and these sort of posts make it sound like her natural self isn't beautiful... which is an insult like someone picking on someone because they're bigger than average. But I do think the older pics are more attractive :flowerforyou:
I agree, there are some women in the media who are naturally that thin. Then there are those like Kirsten Dunst who force themselves to become tinier than they should be healthily. I think Kirsten looked better at her healthiest in "Elizabethtown" or "Bring It On" where she was healthy and toned.
Also, if you look at one of today's sexiest women in Hollywood, Angeline Jolie, she looks like a size 4-6 and she is toned and healthy. She is not anorexically thin. However, I do feel that Hollywood and the media during the "Golden Age" from the 30's to 60's gave women a healthier body image to look up to. Nowadays women strive to be unhealthy at a size 0 and model thin. Not all women can pull that look off.
I have a female cousin in the Coast Guard who is at a healthy weight and body fat yet when she graduated from the Academy they told her to lose another 15 to 20 lbs. What the heck?
I agree that our soldiers need to be in perfect physically fit condition but to get them to an unhealthy level is not right.0 -
I love, love, love this!!0
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this is ridiculous.
Personally, I think the top row of girls could stand to eat a cheeseburger. if they eat cheeseburgers and look like that well then yay for them and continue on.
as far as the "bashing" goes.. get over it. get some confidence and realize that nothing about this thread was intended to rip YOU down. how could these people possibly know YOU?
*I use the term YOU in a general sense.. not to be confused with bashing an individual. God forbid I hurt a strangers feelings over an open forum on the internet.
Why are YOU so upset? God forbid we stand up and point out atrocious behavior. I am not offended on my behalf because I am no longer that thin. I just think the most disgusting thing about this thread is not ladies in the top row but the nastiness that has been spewed about them. I don't have to be personally offended to stand up for something, clearly a lot of you don't feel the same. Shame away if it makes you feel better about yourself.0 -
I agree with those who said it's not cool to turn things around and pick on thin girls like the ones in the top pictures.
HOWEVER, I think it is very, very rare that girls are naturally skin and slender like this. Most women aren't built like that and I do think it is dangerous to make it seem like that is the new standard. Most girls cannot get down to a frame and weight like that without leading an unhealthy lifestyle. If you happen to have a curvier frame, bigger boobs, a bit more on the hips, etc. and you try to get a tiny built like Keira...well, that's not gonna work unless you starve yourself. So, no, I don't wish that obviously talented girls don't get a recognition for their talent but I wish that society would add a bit of a disclaimer to its beauty standards.
Where exactly do you get your information? Just curious.0 -
Amen, sister!! Older Hollywood chics are way hotter!!0
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LOOK! There's a site where you can argue about celebrity body shapes and sizes all day long - http://skinnyvscurvy.com/
Have fun!0 -
In America we can't do anything right.. Skinny Girls need to eat more, Fat girls need to eat less, and so many people just want/need food to eat. We are hopeless!0
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Fat people don't like being criticized.
Neither do skinny people.
I'd keep your opinions to yourself. This is actually really rude.
Some people are naturally skinny.
Thank you.
Chiming in here. Agree.
Criticizing weight in either direction just bolsters the idea that a beautiful body is some magical mystical thing no one can get. Too skinny = ugly, too big = ugly. No one wins except that tiny percentage who falls perfectly in the middle.
The only thing to be concerned about here is health. If you can be tiny and healthy, good. Big and healthy, great.
Bettie Paige is smokin hot, and so is Keira. I would be happy looking like either, honestly.0 -
I would also like to point out that alot women that are by media and society standards considered smoking hot today are curvier than the bottom row in the OP
Christian hendricks
Sofia Veraga
Kim K
Beyonce
Can someone please tell the last time Kirsten Dunst was realavent or put up by hollywood as the model of female beauty? Or heidi montag,Nicole Ritchie has never been portrayed by the media as having a look all women should strive for.
3 of the girls on the top have never been held up as great beautys in hollywood0 -
I can't find the magazine now, but I have a magazine from the 1940s that had photos and measurements of all the hot actresses of the time. Betty Grable, Hedy Lamar, Olivia de Havilland, Carol Lombard, etc. Most of them were right around 34-24-34 with 18" thighs. In other words, depending on the store, a size 0 or 2 today.
This what is making it humorous. A good chunk of these girls are the same size on top and bottom. A lot of it is placement of the how they are posed and photoshop. The top row I'd wager a few of those have been shopped to make them look even skinnier as TMZ and the bunch do that to help promote the story. Add in bottom was professional photos in a sitting and the top are spontaneous pictures at a beach where they aren't posed, in makeup and etc. This image was always about propping up one side and not the other.
To put things in guy standards.. I can't believe women sometimes, as a guy I find 6 of those girls very easily hot hot hot! Any man that says otherwise like they like just the bottom row is most likely only telling that to be a white knight or to make the person that asks them feel better. I have no probably being 100% honest and saying yes 6 of those women are ultra beautiful. I don't care what a women's dress size is, and has never been a factor if I think she is hot or not. I don't have an application process where it asks their measurements, I go by what is pleasing to the eye and that is all shapes and sizes.
To make it out to be about one side or another is just being plain and simple catty. Add if you aren't living that way you should spend less time worrying how others spend theirs. If people minded their own business then society as a whole wouldn't have these standards and values to hold people to. People are held to them because people themselves hold themselves to them. It's not societies fault, it's the fault of any one person that holds themselves to those standards. If a majority didn't hold themselves to the standard then the standard wouldn't exist. Every single one that is in that majority is to be blamed, not society. Quit trying to find excuses or prop yourself up on top of others.
Awesome!
:flowerforyou: I wish more people could see things from your perspective! 0 -
In America we can't do anything right.. Skinny Girls need to eat more, Fat girls need to eat less, and so many people just want/need food to eat. We are hopeless!
Word. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I, personally, wouldn't want to look like the top or the bottom row. The body I'd really like to have, most people would consider too muscular for a woman. I don't give a ****. I'm gonna do what I think is best for me.0 -
this is ridiculous.
Personally, I think the top row of girls could stand to eat a cheeseburger. if they eat cheeseburgers and look like that well then yay for them and continue on.
as far as the "bashing" goes.. get over it. get some confidence and realize that nothing about this thread was intended to rip YOU down. how could these people possibly know YOU?
*I use the term YOU in a general sense.. not to be confused with bashing an individual. God forbid I hurt a strangers feelings over an open forum on the internet.
Why are YOU so upset? God forbid we stand up and point out atrocious behavior. I am not offended on my behalf because I am no longer that thin. I just think the most disgusting thing about this thread is not ladies in the top row but the nastiness that has been spewed about them. I don't have to be personally offended to stand up for something, clearly a lot of you don't feel the same. Shame away if it makes you feel better about yourself.
Thank you!!!0 -
believe it or not i think all the women in this picture are beautiful in different ways .....i currently look more like the bottom row....after gaining weight ...i used to look like the top row ...tho ...and ive had 3 different men come up to me this week and say to not go back to my lower weight and to stay at my current weight ....:/ ...so i would say men find alittle bit more to be sexier ...0
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I saw this posted on FB last night. The problem I have with this pic is the women on the top are caught off guard in unflattering poses where as the women on the bottom are posed with a prof. photographer. I think it's ridiculous to slaughter women. If you want to be stick thin, beefy, or round who cares as long as you love who you are and can accept any consequences that MAY come from your size. Get over bashing (period).0
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Every body is beautiful.
It's not fair to knock someone down for what they look like, you know?0 -
Every body is beautiful.
It's not fair to knock someone down for what they look like, you know?
Agree. There are so many other issues that our energy would be better spent on. Like those that can't afford food, homes, to feed their kids, to clothe their kids.. and we are fighting about how hot someone is for their body types.
It kills me to see what some kids have to go through in life. I act all tough, but when it comes to kids I'm a huge softie. My wife thinks I go overboard every year with programs like operation Christmas child, Saint Judes, and etc. but I can't help it. The pictures and faces of the kids tear me up.0 -
this is ridiculous.
Personally, I think the top row of girls could stand to eat a cheeseburger. if they eat cheeseburgers and look like that well then yay for them and continue on.
as far as the "bashing" goes.. get over it. get some confidence and realize that nothing about this thread was intended to rip YOU down. how could these people possibly know YOU?
*I use the term YOU in a general sense.. not to be confused with bashing an individual. God forbid I hurt a strangers feelings over an open forum on the internet.
It's called "body shaming", one part of a huge collection of shaming techniques primarily used towards woman to demean, debase, and subjugate them into submission or obedience.
The picture posted here is shaming the bodies of those who are naturally thin, or those who have EDs. Was that the intention of the OP? Possibly not. But I've seen that image, and countless others, which promote the idea that being that thin or skinny is wrong and is never okay, even if you are naturally like that. Now, that kind of shaming is not necessarily equal to body shaming overweight people (you have more privilege if you are skinny than if you are fat), but it's still NOT OKAY.
I will continue to stand up against all forms of shaming, especially those against women, because it hurts the world I live in.0 -
this is ridiculous.
Personally, I think the top row of girls could stand to eat a cheeseburger. if they eat cheeseburgers and look like that well then yay for them and continue on.
as far as the "bashing" goes.. get over it. get some confidence and realize that nothing about this thread was intended to rip YOU down. how could these people possibly know YOU?
*I use the term YOU in a general sense.. not to be confused with bashing an individual. God forbid I hurt a strangers feelings over an open forum on the internet.
It's called "body shaming", one part of a huge collection of shaming techniques primarily used towards woman to demean, debase, and subjugate them into submission or obedience.
The picture posted here is shaming the bodies of those who are naturally thin, or those who have EDs. Was that the intention of the OP? Possibly not. But I've seen that image, and countless others, which promote the idea that being that thin or skinny is wrong and is never okay, even if you are naturally like that. Now, that kind of shaming is not necessarily equal to body shaming overweight people (you have more privilege if you are skinny than if you are fat), but it's still NOT OKAY.
I will continue to stand up against all forms of shaming, especially those against women, because it hurts the world I live in.
I agree with your post, but I noticed something as well.. If you change out shaming with shaving your post is hilarious.0 -
I do not think it ever did, I also think this is an unnecessary if not a silly comparison.
I understand asking the question "why has the fashion industry become more obsessed with rail thin models and why are other women beginning to strive for that look" but this is just some random collection of skinny women of ranging levels of fame vs. 4 curvy women. There are plenty of other women in Hollywood who are curvy (and who would be more appropriately compared to Marilyn and Elizabeth from a fame/career point of view) and others who are skinny.
And not only from a fame/career point of view but also from a body type point of view the women on top do not even belong in the same category at least not Keira who is muscular not just skinny.0 -
Re: Eat a cheeseburger?
I'll admit, I'm guilty of being catty and snarky and saying that about very thin women. Usually, I say "loaded baked potato," though. Cheese, sour cream, bacon, chives... heaven! And I'm just as apt to say it about anyone who's grumpy. Carbs = happiness!
I'd love to look more like the bottom row. I'm not quite built that way. I've always been shaped more like a Skipper Doll than a Barbie Doll, and gaining weight didn't turn me into Barbie. It..... it turned me more into a Weeble.
Believe me. If eating a cheeseburger would make me look like Sofia Vergara (who I LOOOOVE) I'd have a Whopper every night! Unfortunately, she's genetically gifted and I'm not, and the only way I'd get her body is with surgery. I'm not going to buy boobs so I fit into someone else's idea of what a healthy, sexy woman should look like.0 -
Ugh. Photos like these bother me. It's not "empowering" to idealize any one body type over another -- whether it's thin and athletic or heavy and curvy. Phrases like "real women have curves" is well-intentioned, but honestly disgusting. Women come in all shapes and sizes, none more legitimate than the others.
I see it SO often too (including in this post) that it's not so much about weight as it is about body type. When guys say they want a "curvy" woman, what they are really saying is that they want a woman with boobs, hips and a small waist.
We can't choose where our fat goes, and not all of us have genes that put fat in the "socially acceptable" areas.
Why can't we just accept everyone's body types? To each his/her own. If someone naturally has a certain bodytype or prefers a certain body type, that's their business. No need to shame women without natural curves (or shame anyone WITH naturally curves either).
Also, I definitely support what someone else mentioned. The bottom row is made up, airbrushed, corsetted, and posed whilst the top row is full of unflattering shots caught candidly of women without flattering makeup, poses, etc. Apples and oranges.0 -
Mmmm Bettie Paige0
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Honestly, the biggest difference between these two rows of photos (aside from one being candid and the other professional) is their breast size. Their weights honestly don't seem notably different (their legs are all just about the same size, in either row).
The top row has genetically smaller breasts (and a tad more muscle mass), and the bottom row is "well endowed". It's genetics.
Stop shaming women for their bodies. Period.0
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