It is not good idea to count calories in vegetables!!

I will have to agree with you on that one because if you read the label ranch style beans contain animal fat, and for me that takes them out of the veggie catorgie.

Okay I didn't read all of this since I'm too lazy to, so if anyone else has already pointed this out I am sorry for repeating.
I disagree with the OP, calories are calories and should be logged unless you KNOW that you don't need to log them (like someone said about their lettuce adding up to 6cals and not logging it since they're under goal most days anyway). Now a lot of people have tried to back up this vegetable/calorie thing by listing things that aren't really vegetables (although lots of people eat them as if they are so I see nothing wrong with listing them) however, since I have a vast garden filled with vegetable beds that are constantly providing food to go on our table, here are some veggies that are high (ish) in calories. Take a globe artichoke for example (anyone who can prove that's not a vegetable please go ahead but I've always seen it as one), one large globe artichoke (boiled in water, so no oils or that included here) is going to be roughly 100 calories, then add on all the butter you dip it in and smother over the heart of it .. mmm ... so 100 calories plus whatever for the butter. That's not the same as a large potato, but a small to medium potato you can get for 100 calories (ish), so there you have one vegetable that's as high in calories as a starchy carb. And 500g of mange tout is 160calories (approx), not saying you'll eat all 500g in one sitting but raw in a salad for lunch then cooked for dinner all in one day could eat 500g, and whilst you could argue mange tout is a pea/bean ... you eat the shell you don't pick out the individual peas (well if you do you're missing out) so I'm classing that as a vegetable since you eat the entire thing, and same for sugar snaps (those who don't know another type of pea like mange tout but sweeter), they're roughly 200cals for 500g. There are plenty more vegetables out there with high calorie counts and you may not realize how much you're actually eating so I always think it's best to log it unless you're positive you know what it is and that it won't affect your net calories.

I take flax oil capsules and they are 10 cal each and I log those too. LOL Even the tsp of turmeric I take everyday I log (8 cal each.)

P.S. Please say no to "veggies" out of a can. It's not just about calories and being thinner. You want your insides to be healthy and match the outside. You can get farm fresh organic fruits and veggies delivered to your door in many areas for relatively cheap. I pay $88 a month and get huge boxes delivered to my doorstep through a CSA. There are tons of CSA (community supported agriculture) around the US and it's fresh and sans chemicals or GMOs.

Unfortunately, some people can't afford that.

calories are calories are calories

I NEVER count vegetables. I eat broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, sprouts, cabbage, mushrooms, onions etc. A handful of a few of these a day amount to about 20 cals so barely worth mentioning.

However, I do count veg with a higher calorie content such as sweetcorn, peas, parsnips etc.

We count!

I was once on an eating plan called The Charleston Diet. Basically, it gave you things you could eat as much as you wanted of each day, things 3 times a day, things 2 times a day, things 1 time a day and things it suggested you eat only rarely. Many vegetables were on the eat all you want, but not ALL VEGETABLES. Many of them like the starchy ones (potatoes, corn on the cob, yams, etc) were only 2 portions a day. Other vegetables (artichokes, black-eyed peas, corn, pumpkin, beets, eggplant, parsnips, squash, water chestnuts, etc.) were only one portion a day. Fruits were also mostly once a day.

Almost all foods have calories. So, all calories count. What is different is the nutrient density of foods. A sweet potato is going to be much more nutrient dense than a brownie of the same caloric value. Thus, the sweet potato is better for you, but still if you ate too many, you would get fat. Anything you eat in excess can make you fat...that includes plain old calories in any form.

They count towards your carbs too remember!

Everyone is right in their own head. What ever you beleive is right. If it works for you, then you are right, but only for you, because just like bung holes everyone has an opinion. We don't even need these message boards, except to keep us entertained. :bigsmile:

Thank you to Google and Wikipedia for allowing us all to run to you, search for the "answer" and post it here so we look smart!
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