How Do You Ward Off Evil Spirits?!
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Double bump:)0
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I've yet to see a person of faith ridicule an atheist on here.
I've seen it a number of times, myself.Why are the non-believers so threatened by those who believe?
As is usually the case, you shouldn't judge an entire group by the actions or your perceptions of a few.0 -
bwaaaahaaaa!!!! Awesome!!!:)0
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LMAO!!!! How do you know, the second season isn't here?0
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It's not that you can't, it's that they're not intersecting. Religion is faith. Faith is holding a belief in the absence of evidence that the belief is true. Faith has no place in science because science deals with evidence. When people try to warp science to support their beliefs (read: Creationism), that's when it becomes a problem.
Do you have a source? Show me some recent studies that that are coming to conclusions via faith.0 -
I've yet to see a person of faith ridicule an atheist on here.I've seen it a number of times, myself.Why are the non-believers so threatened by those who believe?As is usually the case, you shouldn't judge an entire group by the actions or your perceptions of a few.
You're right. I apologize. I should have said SOME non-believers or "some of the non-believers in this thread".0 -
Have any of you read the OP's posts (besides the first one)? She is not a firm believer in God, nor does it appear that she has a firm belief in any particular religion. Hmmm, now what?0
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Have any of you read the OP's posts (besides the first one)? She is not a firm believer in God, nor does it appear that she has a firm belief in any particular religion. Hmmm, now what?0
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Sure! And as I said before, I firmly believe that there are enough experts here to guide her. No need to look elsewhere.0
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Do you have a source? Show me some recent studies that that are coming to conclusions via faith.
Some pretty basic examples:
1. Science must “assume” the reliability of sense perception.
2. Science must “assume” the human mind is able to know or understand the world.
3. Science must “assume” the validity of inductive and deductive logic.
4. Science must “assume” that the workings of the world today will continue to hold true tomorrow and were constant in the past.0 -
Hi Folks,
We've been getting occasional reports about this thread, and I wanted to clarify why, up to this point, we've been moderating the thread very lightly.
The guidelines relating to posts with religious content were updated around the time we debuted the "Groups" feature. At present, it's OK to reference religious material, such as a belief in God or use of various religious strategies to solve problems, as long as:
a) huge fights don't break out as a result
b) threads in the public forums do not attempt to restrict participation to members of only certain religions.
So, a thread like "only seeking [insert specific religion] members' solutions to warding off evil spirits" is a clear guideline violation. But a general call for polite responses on this topic doesn't necessarily equal a guideline violation, even if the responses do reference religious content.
The guideline in question gives us the right to remove threads on "divisive topics," but if conversation is proceeding relatively politely, we'll try to under-moderate rather than over-moderate. Of course, if members are attacking or insulting each other, we'll moderate, too. As an example, I removed a few posts yesterday that were directly insulting of the OP.
If the thread is becoming a source of member-on-member insults, please report any guideline-violating post. Otherwise, the topic itself does not represent a guideline violation, nor do responses that reference religion.
As a sidenote, the only topics that garner immediate deletion or locking are those with a clear political agenda.
Regards,
Steven
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1. Science must “assume” the reliability of sense perception.
2. Science must “assume” the human mind is able to know or understand the world.
3. Science must “assume” the validity of inductive and deductive logic.
4. Science must “assume” that the workings of the world today will continue to hold true tomorrow and were constant in the past.
I'm not sure in what instance you're meaning #1. You have a point since something as basic as color is just our perception of how light is refracted. However, what is the alternative? We may be testing things using tools that are within our perception, but seeing as what is being measured tends to also be within our perception, then it is justified.
You could take this to the extreme of solipsism and say that everything we know to hear, see, smell, touch, and taste is just an illusion being played on us. Even the people around us are not real. But there's no way to prove that, and the burden of proof doesn't lie on the null claim (i.e. that something is untrue); it lies on the opposite.
As far as #4 goes, science doesn't assume this. There are no facts; only theories. Theories are adjusted or thrown out all together if a large enough body of research disproves the theory.0 -
The priest from The Exorcist is my neighbor, he does it for us.0
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Well lucky for me my faith isn't bound by rigid structure and I can quite easily accept science, after all...there isn't much of Paganism that clearly defines anything as being exactly one way.....big bang theory...man evolved from apes...its all good. In my personal opinion science is a good thing and I don't feel religiously threatened by new scientific findings, after all science still can't completely explain some things...so live and let live I say.0
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In Jesus' name demand them to leave! Out loud too!! U need to believe in Jesus, that he died for ur sins. Becoming a Christian will help:) God bless u! If it's to much for u, find an evangelical priest to help u!!!
*******Oh and if u have any questions watch KENT HOVIND, all his DVDs he'll answer all ur questions about Christianity***** it brightened my worldview and made sense of all the confusion out there!!!! A must watch I have to say, but it's super long!! It helps answer all the people questions about science and creation and all the contradictions
Sorry, but please do not take Hovind seriously. He is a fraud who exploits very devout Christians by spreading incorrect information. I'm not a Christian so I might sound biased, but you do not want to be getting any facts from that guy.0 -
I Agree with SigriaMay I add:
1. Singing bowls
2. Sage smudging
3. Repeating prayers and mantras
4. Getting a professional (priest or psychic) to CLEANSE, PROTECT and BLESS your home, in that order.
5. Make your own Holy Water. Say the Lord's Prayer over it. Flick it into every corner of your room, door frames and windows, above and below. While doing # 3.
6. Leave a window open for it to ESCAPE.
Good Luck!0 -
I have a crucifix in every room of my house sans the bathrooms since there's no warding off the evil that goes down in the bathrooms. lol! Seriously though, I do have a crucifix in all the other rooms of my house and bless those rooms annually or any time I feel we need the extra blessing in the house.0
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Sage smudging, gets rid of negative energy/spirits. Sweet grass smudging and cedar smudging also work. (combine all 3 is good). Cedar over a door helps prevent re-entry.
Pray while smudging, and tell the unwelcome spirit(s) to move on they are not welcome. That said, some spirits are your guardians and are helpful.0 -
Have any of you read the OP's posts (besides the first one)? She is not a firm believer in God, nor does it appear that she has a firm belief in any particular religion. Hmmm, now what?
(Below is my response...I don't know how I messed up the quote thingy but I did )
I would assume that an atheist being harassed by a spirit would quickly re-evaluate their non beliefs. I am NOT an atheist but nor am I a bible totting "God pusher" but bottom line is:
Prayers repel bad spirits....deal with it. If you don't want to pray I suggest you learn to love your stalker from the here after.....0 -
I would assume that an atheist being harassed by a spirit would quickly re-evaluate their non beliefs. I am NOT an atheist but nor am I a bible totting "God pusher" but bottom line is:
Personally, I would probably think I had suffered a psychotic break or that it was my imagination. I think it depends on the person and their mindset. A more sceptical person is likely to try and find a natural explanation, whilst someone who is more open-minded to the supernatural might be more inclined to believe that it really was a spirit.Prayers repel bad spirits....deal with it.
Prayers may or may not have any effect on anything, but then again noone has ever proven or disproven that praying works.If you don't want to pray I suggest you learn to love your stalker from the here after.....
I don't think a spirit would necessarily prove the existence of a god anyway, so prayer might not work.0 -
Ooookkkkaaayyy...
So first I want to thank everybody for thier responses....
I know that this is a weight loss site but its more to it then just that which keeps me on this site,
I have made good friends on this site, people I trust, who I look up to, and who encourage me.
I have done a lot of research on this other then just asking a simple question on here to find the right answer that works best for me and my child.
Those of you who are being negative towards me, I am sorry that you are so close minded, maybe thats why you DONT believe, because you dont allow yourself too.
As for god and praying... You dont have to a strong believer in god to pray... You can pray towards to whatever spirit, god, animal, plant, statue... ect... that you believe in. That is the great thing about people being able to have thier own beliefs, you can pray to whomever or whatever you believe in.
I am not a strong believer in god. I grew up in a christian church but I also grew up learning on MY OWN that most christians (in my opinion) are contradicting. I dont belive in judgement ... You cant give people free will and then banish them to life of pain and hate for making thier own choices.... and thats why I strayed away into my own beliefs.
Just because I believe in god to a sense never meant I stopped believing and having an open sense for the pegan and wiccan world as well as the spirits that my native ancestors believed,
I really do appreciate everybodys comments, I cannot stress that enough.0 -
I found this post to be pretty interesting. I don't know if I'm ready to try and get rid of my ghost just yet as she hasn't caused any major problems yet, she's just screwing around with us. But it's nice to have some ideas of how to get rid of her should she start to get worse.0
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I found this post to be pretty interesting. I don't know if I'm ready to try and get rid of my ghost just yet as she hasn't caused any major problems yet, she's just screwing around with us. But it's nice to have some ideas of how to get rid of her should she start to get worse.
Well im glad my post could help you. lol.
I am personally not having any problem with ours but this child (my son says its a kid ghost) is certainly scarying my child. He is scared to go into the room alone... morning noon or night. "/0 -
What has occurred for you to feel that you even have an evil spirit present? There may be a reasonable explanation without religion and witchcraft that explains your experience.
We all come from different backgrounds and beliefs, but since you asked a general audience, my own personal advice would be to start with a prayer.0 -
I found this post to be pretty interesting. I don't know if I'm ready to try and get rid of my ghost just yet as she hasn't caused any major problems yet, she's just screwing around with us. But it's nice to have some ideas of how to get rid of her should she start to get worse.
Well im glad my post could help you. lol.
I am personally not having any problem with ours but this child (my son says its a kid ghost) is certainly scarying my child. He is scared to go into the room alone... morning noon or night. "/
That's not good, from what I've read/heard, children are more open to seeing these types of things, I'd take his word for it.
Our's just messes with our things, moves furniture (our bed), turns lights on, screams, locks doors, and scares the crud out of our dogs. It's kind of funny, I've recently started talking to her when things are getting weird and she'll move or listen.0 -
I found this post to be pretty interesting. I don't know if I'm ready to try and get rid of my ghost just yet as she hasn't caused any major problems yet, she's just screwing around with us. But it's nice to have some ideas of how to get rid of her should she start to get worse.
Well im glad my post could help you. lol.
I am personally not having any problem with ours but this child (my son says its a kid ghost) is certainly scarying my child. He is scared to go into the room alone... morning noon or night. "/
That's not good, from what I've read/heard, children are more open to seeing these types of things, I'd take his word for it.
Our's just messes with our things, moves furniture (our bed), turns lights on, screams, locks doors, and scares the crud out of our dogs. It's kind of funny, I've recently started talking to her when things are getting weird and she'll move or listen.
Thats why I beileve in it so much.
The innocence of a child can be so opening to things that adults have closed thier minds too that its hard not to believe him when I can see that its really scarying him.0 -
So,
Reports continue to come in. Therefore I'm reposting my earlier response for better visibility, and will quote the relevant guideline.
I will add that since I believe the OP has received a fair amount of the input she was seeking, I may choose to lock the thread in the future, if it becomes too much trouble to moderate. This is NOT an invitation to come in and attack other users to attempt to prompt a thread-lock. Insults and attacks will still have consequences. If you have nothing to contribute to the OP's original NON-guideline-violating question, please just find another thread to read.
My earlier response:
Hi Folks,
We've been getting occasional reports about this thread, and I wanted to clarify why, up to this point, we've been moderating the thread very lightly.
The guidelines relating to posts with religious content were updated around the time we debuted the "Groups" feature. At present, it's OK to reference religious material, such as a belief in God or use of various religious strategies to solve problems, as long as:
a) huge fights don't break out as a result
b) threads in the public forums do not attempt to restrict participation to members of only certain religions.
So, a thread like "only seeking [insert specific religion] members' solutions to warding off evil spirits" is a clear guideline violation. But a general call for polite responses on this topic doesn't necessarily equal a guideline violation, even if the responses do reference religious content.
The guideline in question gives us the right to remove threads on "divisive topics," but if conversation is proceeding relatively politely, we'll try to under-moderate rather than over-moderate. Of course, if members are attacking or insulting each other, we'll moderate, too. As an example, I removed a few posts yesterday that were directly insulting of the OP.15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums
Divisive topics, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. We reserve the right to move any topic to a relevant public Group which interested members may join if they wish to continue to participate.
A possible translation of this guideline is: if all members can agree to behave like adults, we won't have much to moderate.
If the thread is becoming a source of member-on-member insults, please report any guideline-violating post. Otherwise, the topic itself does not represent a guideline violation, nor do responses that reference religion.
As a sidenote, the only topics that garner immediate deletion or locking are those with a clear political agenda.
Regards,
Steven
MyFitnessPal Staff0 -
So,
Reports continue to come in. Therefore I'm reposting my earlier response for better visibility, and will quote the relevant guideline.
I will add that since I believe the OP has received a fair amount of the input she was seeking, I may choose to lock the thread in the future, if it becomes too much trouble to moderate. This is NOT an invitation to come in and attack other users to attempt to prompt a thread-lock. Insults and attacks will still have consequences. If you have nothing to contribute to the OP's original NON-guideline-violating question, please just find another thread to read.
My earlier response:
Hi Folks,
We've been getting occasional reports about this thread, and I wanted to clarify why, up to this point, we've been moderating the thread very lightly.
The guidelines relating to posts with religious content were updated around the time we debuted the "Groups" feature. At present, it's OK to reference religious material, such as a belief in God or use of various religious strategies to solve problems, as long as:
a) huge fights don't break out as a result
b) threads in the public forums do not attempt to restrict participation to members of only certain religions.
So, a thread like "only seeking [insert specific religion] members' solutions to warding off evil spirits" is a clear guideline violation. But a general call for polite responses on this topic doesn't necessarily equal a guideline violation, even if the responses do reference religious content.
The guideline in question gives us the right to remove threads on "divisive topics," but if conversation is proceeding relatively politely, we'll try to under-moderate rather than over-moderate. Of course, if members are attacking or insulting each other, we'll moderate, too. As an example, I removed a few posts yesterday that were directly insulting of the OP.15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums
Divisive topics, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. We reserve the right to move any topic to a relevant public Group which interested members may join if they wish to continue to participate.
A possible translation of this guideline is: if all members can agree to behave like adults, we won't have much to moderate.
If the thread is becoming a source of member-on-member insults, please report any guideline-violating post. Otherwise, the topic itself does not represent a guideline violation, nor do responses that reference religion.
As a sidenote, the only topics that garner immediate deletion or locking are those with a clear political agenda.
Regards,
Steven
MyFitnessPal Staff
People are so immature.0 -
I would have to agree. But if they weren't Steven would be out of a job. LOL So other peoples immaturity equals job security. I LOVE THAT!:laugh:0
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I divorced him!0
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