Here is what a competitive Bikini model winner looks like

Yet in the 'eye candy' thread..guys sub 10% bodyfat are praised and admired.

But when it's a woman..they're made fun of for being too thin/ripped.

Every day it still amazes me.

No, I dont like it on guys either. It is too hard and cold looking. It doesn't look like someone that I would be comfortable in their arms. I dont want to snuggle with granite. Besides, I would not want to be next to someone that was in that good of shape and feel inferior or feel like I was never good enough.

Thread has gotten crazy. These competitive bikini models must work out incessantly to get their bodies to level. It's really inspiring to see pictures of women who compete and still manage maintain their femininity (unlike those crazy body builder types with the muscles on top of muscles). I saw a documentary on people in fitness competitions and they mentioned something about eating very specific diets 8 weeks prior to the competition--you really have to admire their self-control.

THIS! No one likes to cuddle with a bag of forks.

So since we can't label this woman as "fat", let's state the facts. This woman has a higher than "healthy" body fat percentage. Probably in the high 30s, which qualifies as "obese". She's definitely not in a healthy BMI range. So no, it's not "sad" that someone labeled her as "fat". By all scientific definitions she is "fat". She's beautiful and maybe she's a great person, so really her level of body fat is probably not that important. But she is "fat". And this picture is either photo shopped or she's genetically very lucky. Usually fat does lie that smoothly. There'd usually be more "lumps" and cellulite. So this "healthy ideal" is not only NOT healthy but it's not real or achievable for most women.

Secondly, Niner posted this to show what a competitive bikini model looks like. He did NOT say "Women SHOULD look like this". He did NOT say "Post your ideal body here".

Wow, you are way off. 30% body fat? I doubt it. In my before pic to the side, I was at 38% body fat. THAT was obese.

Certainly some folks do have experience in the area, but I feel like a lot of people just don't understand competitions and that's where a lot of the judgement comes from.

The 'on-season' for a bikini model really isn't a season. Those of you saying you want the off-season look, that's is her 'look'...depending on how many competitions they do on-season is just a handful of days a year. When you're in a competition, your body is a tool that you use to reach a goal. Those stage pictures are a show of that person reaching that goal. The work they've done is extremely impressive.

I don't have a tremendous amount of experience in this area, but I have some with weight class competitions (power lifting and judo) in both high school and college. I was never particularly good, but I had an opportunity to train with some amazing athletes. The amount of work they put in and the dedication I saw in my time with them was simply awe inspiring. If you can't respect the look, respect the work, dedication, and sheer force of will on display.

THIS! No one likes to cuddle with a bag of forks.

So since we can't label this woman as "fat", let's state the facts. This woman has a higher than "healthy" body fat percentage. Probably in the high 30s, which qualifies as "obese". She's definitely not in a healthy BMI range. So no, it's not "sad" that someone labeled her as "fat". By all scientific definitions she is "fat". She's beautiful and maybe she's a great person, so really her level of body fat is probably not that important. But she is "fat". And this picture is either photo shopped or she's genetically very lucky. Usually fat does lie that smoothly. There'd usually be more "lumps" and cellulite. So this "healthy ideal" is not only NOT healthy but it's not real or achievable for most women.

Secondly, Niner posted this to show what a competitive bikini model looks like. He did NOT say "Women SHOULD look like this". He did NOT say "Post your ideal body here".

Wow, you are way off. 30% body fat? I doubt it. In my before pic to the side, I was at 38% body fat. THAT was obese.

Would love to know what her dietary regimen is. How did she get soooo lean???!!!

:sad: I think the bikin model looks great. Depresses the crud out of me, but she looks awesome. Even at my lowest BF (12%), I had the gross skin problem from being so obese. I have always wondered how amazing it must feel to have your skin actually fit down onto your muscles. Heck, I'd be happy with the white bikini chicks body... at least her skin is firmly over her body- no dimples or rolls, or saggy droopy gross-ness. ***sigh*** I suppose I should be happy to at least look good in my clothes, but I'm not.

Why do fitness competitors/bodybuilders eat so much broccoli? Is it because it is filling and low cal or because it is low carb? Or both?

THIS! No one likes to cuddle with a bag of forks.

So since we can't label this woman as "fat", let's state the facts. This woman has a higher than "healthy" body fat percentage. Probably in the high 30s, which qualifies as "obese". She's definitely not in a healthy BMI range. So no, it's not "sad" that someone labeled her as "fat". By all scientific definitions she is "fat". She's beautiful and maybe she's a great person, so really her level of body fat is probably not that important. But she is "fat". And this picture is either photo shopped or she's genetically very lucky. Usually fat does lie that smoothly. There'd usually be more "lumps" and cellulite. So this "healthy ideal" is not only NOT healthy but it's not real or achievable for most women.

Secondly, Niner posted this to show what a competitive bikini model looks like. He did NOT say "Women SHOULD look like this". He did NOT say "Post your ideal body here".

Wow, you are way off. 30% body fat? I doubt it. In my before pic to the side, I was at 38% body fat. THAT was obese.

Exactly. Your example of 30% has some definite flab and hang going on. I'd put this white bikini chick closer to the 25% shape. Just because her hips are wider does not mean they are fat- she could just have wide hips. There's some super skinny VS model with ridiculously wide hips... wish I could remember her name...