cursing + having little kids ==
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My mom cursed galore when I was a little (and she continues). And I have inherited the same mouth. I don't think children should be sheltered from the world. To me, to curse is just to use a bundle of words. There are worse things in the world than words. Growing up, I knew that I wasn't allowed to curse because I was a child; "When you grow up and have experienced more and can make right and wrong decisions on your own, and are mature enough to handle things like swearing, you can do it." And so I did.
I don't swear around other peoples children, because I don't know if they would appreciate it or not. "treat others how you want to be treated" (more good advice from mom). But to me, it's just a group of words. Another form of expression.
I hate how much children are sheltered in America. Instead of hiding your kids from the truth of the world by trying to censor everything, and damning anything that is "inappropriate", parents should talk to and teach and discipline their children according to what they think is right, as individuals. There are some things children shouldn't know. But I think kids need to know.
I don't have children, but this is how my mom raised me. And I have turned out to be a smart, civilized, well mannered, person.
The bottom line, you have to communicate with your kids.0 -
You know why is it that if we don't agree with swearing around our kids we get attacked?!? If you wanna swear in your home then swear to your hearts content!! We are just letting you know what we think about the matter. If you feel like you're being judged.....you are..to a point. People are never going to completely agree with what we do as parents...ever! All I know is that my kids will have enough stuff to worry about as they get older and if swearing will make them 'appear' to be trashy or uneducated then I'm not gonna show them that it's ok to swear when they get older. Yes you can say "those are big people words". But I don't think that 'big people' should use them either!
I agree -- Very well said. We all have the right to share our opinions.
So you are a Gosh darn and a poopy head person? Seriously?? I am not attacking anyone who doesn't swear/ doesn't want their children to swear its your prerogative, but honestly sometimes gosh darn and shucks do not do the trick. Do I appear trashy?? oh to some people probably. I grew up in a home where swearing was not preferred but now you know what? Talk to anyone of my siblings and they will tell you straight up that fvck is just a normal word..
I have yet to meet an adult who says gosh darn when they are mad - and I know a LOT of adults from MANY different back grounds including Christians who swear.
I think you all need to get a grip - especially the person who made the statement about good families and bad families because in my personal experience its the "good" families that have trouble with children who drink and do drugs in excess because they were the ones who were sheltered from it, same goes with the swearing - those that were sheltered from it use it a whole lot more then those of us who were not...so your broad assessment of your personal experience is a bunch of bloody bullsh!t.
"Bloody bullsh*t"! I love it!! Why is it that when the British curse it sounds so classy?? I make one of my English friends say swear words for me just so I can hear them. lol
And I totally agree with your statement, "it's the "good" families that have trouble with children who drink and do drugs in excess because they were the ones who were sheltered from it, same goes with the swearing - those that were sheltered from it use it a whole lot more then those of us who were not". It's called "rebellion".0 -
I usually don't swear, however, when I do, I make it worth my while.
I do find it peculiar that society, in general, defines "curse words" as the terms listed by the FCC as unsuitable for public broadcast communications.
That FCC list of words has somehow become a legal precedent for what local, state and federal government...as well as private and corporate businesses...consider to be unsuitable for use in our general conversation.
Funny how that developed, isn't it?
I really hate how censored the U.S. is0 -
Why ask this question if all you want are people who agree with you?
Seriously what thread are you reading, the OP unlike other posters has attacked no one, has not made statements that defamed other posters, nor have they made statements that those opinions that oppose theirs are wrong unlike other posters have.0 -
I have a shirt that says "how dare I wear this god damn shirt in front of your ****ing kids" that's my thoughts.0
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I think that when it comes down to it, it's kinda like religion. Nobody wan't other peoples beliefs pushed on them or their children. If we all had a little compassion for one another and were considerate of others boundaries it would be a better world. Words have power and words create life. I think they should be used for good. Words cut and words can cause death. Why not use them for their active intentional purpose to create and nurture life.:flowerforyou:0
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In my experience, people who come from "good" (kind, wealthy, well-educated and well-traveled) families do NOT swear nearly as much as those who come from "bad" families.
That's some funny *kitten* right there. I have two degrees, my husband has one, we both work as well paid professionals, live in an upper middle class home in a middle class neighbourhood. I've travelled all over Europe and a variety of other places. We swear. Oh noes!! Does this mean we're suddenly going to fall into unemployment and start selling crack on the streets? Should I put my brand new dream home up for sale and move into the ghetto? Silly us!
BTW our child is a straight A student, a student leader, a community volunteer, all of her own volition. She wants to go to law school. When should I tell her she is doomed to a life of poverty and misery because she's heard me swear?
Our focus as parents is teaching good citizenship, responsibility and teaching her how to grow up to be a law abiding productive adult. You worry about swearing all you want, we'll focus on the important stuff.0 -
I have a shirt that says "how dare I wear this god damn shirt in front of your ****ing kids" that's my thoughts.
can i borrow your shirt? I'll let you wear my "your jesus hates me" shirt.0 -
That's why I placed "good" and "bad" in quotes, as demonstrated in this sentence as well as in my original post.
I realize I have offended a few people and I should have been clearer in explaining my answer. I'm sorry. My intention was not to offend anyone. I hope you guys can forgive me for my poor choice in wording. :flowerforyou:And we weren't attacking anyone who does swear...
...I could care less if other people swear around their children....
....I stated that I should have been clearer in my wording. I apologized for it....
PS: I am an adult woman and most people I know do not swear except on very rare occasion. Obviously we simply have different experiences. I don't think that makes either one of us right or wrong.
Bumping up my last posts. I would really appreciate if someone would recognize that I didn't mean to offend anyone, apologized, and we could move on. Otherwise, if one of the admins sees this, could you please remove all my posts from this topic?
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If I had kids I would not swear around them. Like it or not, a lot of people DO look down on those who swear. People can say they are well-educated, respectful, moral yadee yah. While what these people say could certainly be true, cursing often comes across as completely the opposite.
In my experience, people who come from "good" (kind, wealthy, well-educated and well-traveled) families do NOT swear nearly as much as those who come from "bad" families. While one thing does not necessarily equal another, I have noticed a correlation and am quite certain others have as well -- Just look at the variety of responses to this question.
I'm not trying to offend anyone, simply sharing my opinion.
Looks like the wealthy are pretty damn ignorant0 -
If I had kids I would not swear around them. Like it or not, a lot of people DO look down on those who swear. People can say they are well-educated, respectful, moral yadee yah. While what these people say could certainly be true, cursing often comes across as completely the opposite.
In my experience, people who come from "good" (kind, wealthy, well-educated and well-traveled) families do NOT swear nearly as much as those who come from "bad" families. While one thing does not necessarily equal another, I have noticed a correlation and am quite certain others have as well -- Just look at the variety of responses to this question.
I'm not trying to offend anyone, simply sharing my opinion.
Looks like the wealthy are pretty damn ignorant
I'll take being ignorant and wealthy over being an *kitten* ANY DAY.
As to everyone who ganged up on me here, how about using the HIDE button if my posts offend you so greatly. Or is it more fun to repeatedly ignore someone's REPEATED apologies and continue to rip-apart their words?
Obviously I did a horrible job explaining my opinion by the responses, but I admitted my errors and apologized. Obviously it is no fun for some people when the topic-punching bag is taken away.
I hope this thread gets deleted. For all of you "adult" cyber bullies: *kitten* YOU!
To the people who responded to my poorly-worded quote respectfully: Thank you. I hope you were able to accept my apologies.0 -
And I totally agree with your statement, "it's the "good" families that have trouble with children who drink and do drugs in excess because they were the ones who were sheltered from it, same goes with the swearing - those that were sheltered from it use it a whole lot more then those of us who were not". It's called "rebellion".
I was never sheltered from it and I use it a whole lot; I have tried to stop but to be quite honest I don't feel like myself lol.
Oh And to Vinegar - I am not making fun of anyone... anyone I know who does not swear says gosh darn and poopy head, is under the age of 6, adults who say it are generally trying to be funny or they have small children and they are TRYING to not swear around their kids - and that only lasts for a matter of days. If I was going to make fun of you non-swearing people I would choose something better then calling you "gosh darn and poopy head people."0 -
The way things are today, kids are going to hear it, but its not hypocricitical to not let them curse. They need to develop a mature vocabulary. You can't sit in a business meeting and continuously curse. One or two can slip, but you should watch your mouth, especially in mixed company.0
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I curse sometimes more than others. I listen to music that is full of curses and other miscellaneous trash. I have a seven year old little girl who will NOT say a curse word. She listens to the same trash as i do with one rule : the first time i hear her being disrespectful to people or cursing, the trash music is GONE!!!! (and she loves hollywood undead) So Far So Good!!!!! I know i am not perfect, dont pretend to be at all ever. But i love that little girl more than anything in the world. And i will be the first to change my disgusting foul mouth and music tastes .............0
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I swear sometimes during conversations,but mostly just swear if I am angry about something. I have 17 month old twins, and my husband swears in front of them alot. I try not to, but I know I have on occasion (if I stub my toe, or something equally annoying as that) I am trying to get him to stop, because the last thing I want is for two little toddlers to be running around dropping F bombs... they are only saying a couple of words right now, and I dont' want one of their first words to be the F Bomb.0
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WOW I must be old fashioned, I have a four year old daughter & put her to bed early for saying god damn only last week! I don't swear in front of her & if people wish to visit us I encourage them not to swear in front of her. Swearing in public is an erosion of basic common courtesy, where the "self" has become more important than the "community" & people question why the world is going to hell in a handbasket. I am not saying swearing is the worlds or a childs greatest issue but respect for each other has to start somewhere!
Funny I don't allow my daughter to stay up late or watch inappropriate programs on television & as for reading if you don't encourage your children to read & to ENJOY reading you are quite simply wrong! IMO
Russ
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Ok, this may be controversial, but I do swear and so did my parents. I think it's better to teach children the realities of life, including diction. It is better that they learn to be nice people than be drains on society that wouldn't dream of dropping the f-bomb.0
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There's a time and a place for everything.
As long as your kids know it's inappropriate to start a job interview with...
"I'm here to *kitten* *kitten* up!!"
...I'm sure they'll be fine :bigsmile:0 -
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haha Thank you! I'll even smoke AND drink in honor of this thread hopefully catching on fire and burning away. :smokin: :drinker:0 -
As long as your kids know it's inappropriate to start a job interview with...
"I'm here to *kitten* *kitten* up!!"
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I've always told my kids that there is a time and place for cursing. With yur buds.....yup, with Granny and Grandpa... no. Its a sign of disrespect in certain circles. In my presence, I told them I wouldn't be offended unless it was used in anger towards me, then all bets are off. My grandson has initiated a swear jar, I told him he done lost his f***in mind! I'm kidding ofcourse. Little bugger has a nice little jar o' money already!!0
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Even though this thread is at page 12 and my reply probably wont even be seen... I still want to say my peace First I have to say, raise your children how you want to and don't stress to much about "messing them up". If that's all we worry about all the time, we would eventually all need to become mutes with no interactions because MOST of the time, we never know what happens to cause children to "go bad". I was raised not to swear but I swear worst than my husband who's parents didn't really monitor anything he did.
My attitude towards swearing though changed a couple weeks ago. Up until than I had no problems with swearing infront of my child. Now I think twice before I say a curse word or I use a "substitute" word (shoot, darn it etc.)
The change in my attitude happened after I watched a video that my husband took of my daughter riding her tractor in the backyard. It had started to snow and I was supposed to go outside and do some field work for my Ecology class. I was really upset and started letting the words flow. I am sooo embarrassed to watch that video because I sound RIDICULOUS! Here you have the sweet video of my daughters glowing face as she is having a blast and all you can hear in the background is "da*n it, *kitten*," and every other curse word known to man. I realize now that although letting some words slip now and than won't hurt, I don't ever want to sound like I did on that recording!0 -
And I totally agree with your statement, "it's the "good" families that have trouble with children who drink and do drugs in excess because they were the ones who were sheltered from it, same goes with the swearing - those that were sheltered from it use it a whole lot more then those of us who were not". It's called "rebellion".
I was never sheltered from it and I use it a whole lot; I have tried to stop but to be quite honest I don't feel like myself lol.
Oh And to Vinegar - I am not making fun of anyone... anyone I know who does not swear says gosh darn and poopy head, is under the age of 6, adults who say it are generally trying to be funny or they have small children and they are TRYING to not swear around their kids - and that only lasts for a matter of days. If I was going to make fun of you non-swearing people I would choose something better then calling you "gosh darn and poopy head people."
This is the issue we have on this thread. Those who posted that they *do* swear, posted just that, maybe with a little anecdote to go along or an explanation on what they do in order to relay to their children that it's wrong for them to do so. Those (some) who posted that they *didn't* swear, proceeded to tell the rest of us why we are wrong, how our children will turn out horribly because of it, and that we are poor, uneducated & classless. So there's your answer as to why we're getting "all bent out of shape".0 -
What Cindy said...
Seriously,I've been thinking about posting the same thing all day.0 -
This is the issue we have on this thread. Those who posted that they *do* swear, posted just that, maybe with a little anecdote to go along or an explanation on what they do in order to relay to their children that it's wrong for them to do so. Those (some) who posted that they *didn't* swear, proceeded to tell the rest of us why we are wrong, how our children will turn out horribly because of it, and that we are poor, uneducated & classless. So there's your answer as to why we're getting "all bent out of shape".
In her defence, she WAS just giving her opinion based on her own experiences, as everyone has been.
It's just that the experiences of those who disagree with swearing in front of children do so because they think it indicates negative traits. I'm in that group. I see swearing as being negative, so when I say "I wouldn't swear in front of my children because...", of course I'm going to be giving my reasons.
For those on the other side of the 'argument' the response is "I would swear in front of my children because..." probably followed up with "I think it's fine". Of course, you could use the same logic on those of us against swearing, but the traits you come up with are probably going to be ones we're happy to have. That's just the way it is, and it's all opinion.0 -
I must admit I am really quite bad with cursing.. I drop the F@$k word rather regularly in any shape or form it can come out in ... Really pisses my husband off .. Lol.. He calls me a sewer mouth .. Haha..even though most of my cursing are driven by him anyways ... Ok so I have an 18 yr old 3 yr old and 2 yr old .. The 18 yr old is proof to me that its not that bad .. It's just a friggin word ... He is not screwed up in anyway just coz his mother is a potty mouth ..lol.. He doesn't swear .. He knew and knows it's not something you say to your grandparents .. He knows right from wrong... my 3 year old said it once .. 2 year old never ... I think there are far worse habits and behavior a parent can do to effect a child's life in a negative way other than cursing ... That's just my opinion though !!0
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Time and a place for everything. I don't mind doing it around friends or co-workers.
That said, I've never sworn in front of my parents. Personally, I think it's disrespectful.0 -
I cuss occasionally...not overly so but enough that my daughter has heard it. To her, cuss words are nothing special, and she doesn't get a thrill from saying them unlike other 11-yr olds. I also let her watch horror movies, and she has no fear of monsters. We talk about sex, and so she doesn't see it as the "secret taboo" that most kids her age do. The counsoler I take her to says she's probably one of the more well-adjusted pre-teens that she has seen, so told me whatever I am doing it is working.
Once I was mad in the store and I let a few choice words slip out. My daughter was about two at the time, and this lady came up to me and ripped into me for cussing in front of my child. Boy did she get an earful of language!! She said "don't say those things in front of my kids!!" I told her "don't put your kids in the path of my words!!" She left in a huff..but I was soooo pissed!! It's not like I was beating her like some people do! I was cussing...not at her, but just because I had run over my toe with the cart!!!0 -
My friend has a 2 year old daughter that cusses a lot. She also has a 3 year old who freaks out when anyone says a bad word. I said d*mn one time and the 3 year old said, "Lauren be nice!" And then the 2 year old calls her dad a douche. So I have no idea whether it's going to ruin them for life or not lol I just know it's funny.0
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