Dangers of Vegetarian & Vegan Diets Long-Term
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As for animal rights: Seriously? Why don't we start with starving children and make our way from there.
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Vegetarian >>>>>>Vegan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Shakira is not a vegan. But, still makes me wanna dance.
“I lasted for one month,” she says. “I tried, I really tried. Yeah, I gave it a go. I was living in Spain on a farm, and someone gave me four chickens. I named them and they became very close to me. And then I couldn’t eat them.
“I was like ‘Okay, if I cannot eat these chickens because they actually have names and they are my friends, I am not going to be able to eat any chicken again. So I became a vegetarian. I didn’t last – but I did not eat those chickens. Those chickens survived.”
http://www.showbizspy.com/article/189317/shakira-tried-to-become-a-vegetarian-failed.html0 -
As for animal rights: Seriously? Why don't we start with starving children and make our way from there.0
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Makes no difference to me, i am an omnivore, but how do you decide who deserves to be food? Like it or not, plants are also living organisms that respond to stimuli like light, gravity and touch. In fact, some groups even believe plants can feel pain. Take the Ethics Committee on Non-Human Biotechnology, for instance. This Swiss group recently came out in defense of our leafy green friends in a report on “the dignity of the creature in the plant world.” They argued that plants deserve respect and that killing them arbitrarily is morally wrong.
Let the rabbits wear glasses!! :glasses:0 -
For those of you arguing that pigs are as intelligent as dogs and "would you eat your dog", you obviously have not been to Korea.
I think its great if you are vegetarian, or vegan. But the idea that it is a "choice" for everyone is very narrow minded. Its a big world and the arguments for vegetarianism are only valid in the western world (if that).
Its a personal choice.
As for animal rights: Seriously? Why don't we start with starving children and make our way from there.
...in my opinion
The main staple of Asian diets are rice, vegetables, legumes, and fish. Very little red meat is eaten by the poor in Asia.
There are several other cultures that believe in vegetarianism. Much of the population of India, Malaysia, Vietnam, and Thaiwan refrains from eating meat. So to say that vegetarianism is an American thing is ignorant.0 -
I wouldn't appreciate that. I also wouldn't appreciate having to watch my child slowly starve to death and suffer horrible pain while I also starved to death because I didn't have enough food to feed myself or my child. In that context, kill the bull so my child and I can live.0
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no, but i have seen farm animals and i have seen animals being treated cruelly. have you ever seen a bull being castrated? would you appreciate your balls being cut off with no anesthetic?
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I am a vegetarian who cares about animals a great deal. Having said that, the ignorance and small-mindedness of some of the vegetarians/vegans in this thread is pretty sickening. Self-righteousness is an unattractive quality.0
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Makes no difference to me, i am an omnivore, but how do you decide who deserves to be food? Like it or not, plants are also living organisms that respond to stimuli like light, gravity and touch. In fact, some groups even believe plants can feel pain. Take the Ethics Committee on Non-Human Biotechnology, for instance. This Swiss group recently came out in defense of our leafy green friends in a report on “the dignity of the creature in the plant world.” They argued that plants deserve respect and that killing them arbitrarily is morally wrong.
All of life is precious.0 -
I wouldn't appreciate that. I also wouldn't appreciate having to watch my child slowly starve to death and suffer horrible pain while I also starved to death because I didn't have enough food to feed myself or my child. In that context, kill the bull so my child and I can live.0
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no, but i have seen farm animals and i have seen animals being treated cruelly. have you ever seen a bull being castrated? would you appreciate your balls being cut off with no anesthetic?
...you just compared starving children to a bull being castrated.....:huh:
Bulls are castrated for aggression purposes and to keep breeding stock in check. And they are done as babies, not as full grown bulls. Not done just to be mean. And you know what, most of those balls are also eaten!0 -
As for animal rights: Seriously? Why don't we start with starving children and make our way from there.
...you just compared starving children to a bull being castrated.....:huh:0 -
Moderation in all things.0
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no, but i have seen farm animals and i have seen animals being treated cruelly. have you ever seen a bull being castrated? would you appreciate your balls being cut off with no anesthetic?
...you just compared starving children to a bull being castrated.....:huh:
Bulls are castrated for aggression purposes and to keep breeding stock in check. And they are done as babies, not as full grown bulls. Not done just to be mean. And you know what, most of those balls are also eaten!0 -
I am a vegetarian who cares about animals a great deal. Having said that, the ignorance and small-mindedness of some of the vegetarians/vegans in this thread is pretty sickening. Self-righteousness is an unattractive quality.
Standing up for what you believe in and expressing your beliefs on a public forum is not self-righteous. You obviously have a different belief. Why don't you enlighten us?0 -
Any "diet" can be unhealthy in the long term if you don't pay attention to getting a good balance of the nutrition that your body needs.
A long term diet of McDonalds cheeseburgers and Coke is probably more "dangerous"!0 -
I'm a vegetarian and actually feel better now than I did when I ate meat. I think all diets have their weak points - for me it is iron. For protein I eat beans and other legumes. People think you can only get protein from eating meat but this isn't true. A vegetarian/vegan or anyone else who chooses a restricted diet has to do their research. If a person does their research they can reap the benefits of their diet0
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Agree completely! I eat mostly vegetarian, but a balance of fish, shrimp and lean meat keeps me feeling healthier, stronger and more energized.0
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I think we shouldn't bash a particular way of eating until we've tried it.
I personally have tried a vegetarian lifestyle and could not deal with it because it made me feel horrible. I also can't eat a lot of carbs because my liver does not process them properly. I also can't eat gluten. So, I guess I get most of my energy from meats.
I respect the ideas behind the vegetarian and vegan people because a lot of it has to do with their opposition to animal abuse. Some just do not like how they feel when they eat meat. I am sure there are a multitude of other reasons. My friend decided to go vegan because he was disgusted they used beef matter in some fruit pies he used to eat. He is happy and healthy.
Nobody likes their way of eating or doing something questioned or attacked. It is very obvious that people get very sensitive about these issues on here.
Do what works for you. Listen to your body. This should be a site for support, not bashing of other's ideas.
Also, I think a lot of it boils down to genetics and other habits we may have... and fate, luck, or whatever you want to call it.
Thank you for this!0 -
I am a vegetarian who cares about animals a great deal. Having said that, the ignorance and small-mindedness of some of the vegetarians/vegans in this thread is pretty sickening. Self-righteousness is an unattractive quality.
Standing up for what you believe in and expressing your beliefs on a public forum is not self-righteous. You obviously have a different belief. Why don't you enlighten us?
There are people on here claiming that the lives of chickens and cows are more important than those of human beings. You really don't see any problem with that?0
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