Food Diary ... less is NOT more.

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  • izzygetsbizzy
    izzygetsbizzy Posts: 37 Member
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    Geez, I'm so tired of all these rants about what other people are doing and not doing. Unless you have a degree in nutrition and exercise, I'm not trying to hear what you have to say. Let people eat and exercise how they want to. How does it hurt you, if someone else isn't eating enough/working out enough IF you are? Worry about yourself and your weight loss and Lead by your ACTIONS NOT YOUR RANTS.
    Thank you!

    ^^^^^^^^ this, this this, this! all day!

    PS: this.
  • redshoeshelley
    redshoeshelley Posts: 206 Member
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    Bump. I :heart: a controversial thread. Gets me through the workday.

    I had no blazing idea that I was going to stir this much controversy ... however, the more I read, the more I amused !!

    Haha, it's because you're new here. Now you know that the message boards don't take kindly to know-it-alls and broscientists.

    Note to self:
    Haters gonna hate.
    So now I'm going to make total light of the situation with this little ditty, and frankly I've offended enough people here with my personal opinion that I don't give a rats *kitten* anymore ...

    At first I was annoyed
    I was horrified
    Kept thinking how do people live
    Full of preservatives inside.
    I spent so many hours
    Searching the net alone
    And I came to realize
    These people take my opinions all wrong!

    And so I’m back
    I found my place
    I posted in the forum
    Not to put a sad look upon your face
    I shouldn’t have to apologize
    Cause you stuff Cheetos in your mug
    But you’d rather blame society
    Cause the junk foods like a drug!

    Go on now go
    Lay off my post
    Just turn around now
    'Cause you're comments aren’t welcome anymore

    I will survive !!!

    And please people ... this is intended as s lighthearted joke !!!
  • funkycamper
    funkycamper Posts: 998 Member
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    I am amazed at the public food diaries I see. I don't understand how my MFP peeps expect to lose weight cramming all their calories in one, maybe two meals.


    I'm not so sure it really matters when you eat your calories. There are some days I eat half of mine in one meal, but hasn't hindered me in the slightest. The body doesn't care if you eat three meals, two or seven.

    Actually it does. I mean you will see your self lose weight by just counting calories and staying under a certain number, but you would be even more successful by eating more low-calorie meals in a day. The more meals you eat in a day the more "exercise" your metabolism gets. If you eat all your calories in one meal, your metabolism is "turned off" or however you want to put it...So when you start eating, it takes time for your metabolism to catch up to you, not burning off as much as you could if you spread out your calories in your day with more frequent meals. It then doesn't have a chance to completely shut down, allowing for it to be active at the beginning of your meals instead of in the middle of it.

    Actually, you're wrong. Scientific studies, many of which have been referenced with links in this discussion already, show that you're wrong.

    Now, personally, I prefer eating 4-6 small meals daily because I have never liked the feeling of a full stomach and get filled easily. I also work from home so that's easy for me to do. But I don't for a single second pretend that this is a superior way of eating to rev up my metabolism. (Well, actually, I used to think that until I learned I was wrong.)

    Anyway, point is, as long as people are meeting their calorie and macro-/micro-nutrient targets most of the time, they will lose weight and be healthy in the process.
  • kelly1158
    kelly1158 Posts: 3
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    I agree....you have to find a balance and then continue that pattern for a lifetime....along with exercise. It sucks that moderation and exercise is what keeps us fit but those are the facts. I prefer to work everyday to make myself stronger...but I still like a cocktail, glass of wine, cookie, a piece of cake. MODERATION....... substitute something for another so you don't feel like you are being cheated out of something you want, enjoy and like.
  • tcbr1980
    tcbr1980 Posts: 6
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    Does anyone know were I can find the nutrition facts for a resturant called Strouds, They serve everything family style so you have free rain over how much or how little you eat. However they are so good that you TOTAL loose all self control. I have been to there web already and they do not have anything listed. Just writing this makes my mouth water. so if anyone knows that would be great. STROUD'S Resturant North location in Kansas City Missouri
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
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    In general terms meal frequency makes little to no difference.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494:

    More importantly, studies using whole-body calorimetry and doubly-labelled water to assess total 24 h energy expenditure find no difference between nibbling and gorging. Finally, with the exception of a single study, there is no evidence that weight loss on hypoenergetic regimens is altered by meal frequency. We conclude that any effects of meal pattern on the regulation of body weight are likely to be mediated through effects on the food intake side of the energy balance equation.

    There is one important caveat which people tend to forget and that it protein intake should be sufficient. If it isn't then meal frequency is important as it has a LBM sparing affect.
  • BlackRangerX
    BlackRangerX Posts: 133 Member
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    I am amazed at the public food diaries I see. I don't understand how my MFP peeps expect to lose weight cramming all their calories in one, maybe two meals.


    I'm not so sure it really matters when you eat your calories. There are some days I eat half of mine in one meal, but hasn't hindered me in the slightest. The body doesn't care if you eat three meals, two or seven.

    Actually it does. I mean you will see your self lose weight by just counting calories and staying under a certain number, but you would be even more successful by eating more low-calorie meals in a day. The more meals you eat in a day the more "exercise" your metabolism gets. If you eat all your calories in one meal, your metabolism is "turned off" or however you want to put it...So when you start eating, it takes time for your metabolism to catch up to you, not burning off as much as you could if you spread out your calories in your day with more frequent meals. It then doesn't have a chance to completely shut down, allowing for it to be active at the beginning of your meals instead of in the middle of it.

    Actually, you're wrong. Scientific studies, many of which have been referenced with links in this discussion already, show that you're wrong.

    Now, personally, I prefer eating 4-6 small meals daily because I have never liked the feeling of a full stomach and get filled easily. I also work from home so that's easy for me to do. But I don't for a single second pretend that this is a superior way of eating to rev up my metabolism. (Well, actually, I used to think that until I learned I was wrong.)

    Anyway, point is, as long as people are meeting their calorie and macro-/micro-nutrient targets most of the time, they will lose weight and be healthy in the process.

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, so if I eat Big Mac's and Whopper Combos everyday, but stay in my "macro-/micro-nutrient" I will be healthy? Think you so much for clearing this up for me. And all this time, I thought fat and greasy foods were bad.
  • 0EmmeNicole0
    0EmmeNicole0 Posts: 180 Member
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    If I only fuel my vehicle part of the day, how is that vehicle supposed to run at optimum output the entire day? Just sayin'.

    I fill my car up once a day, seems to run fine for the rest of the day.

    i was thinking the same thing. LOL.
  • suziecue66
    suziecue66 Posts: 1,312 Member
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    Those that are too rigid with their diet usually fail in the long-term to maintain weight loss.
  • runningfromzombies
    runningfromzombies Posts: 386 Member
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    Bump. I :heart: a controversial thread. Gets me through the workday.

    I had no blazing idea that I was going to stir this much controversy ... however, the more I read, the more I amused !!

    Haha, it's because you're new here. Now you know that the message boards don't take kindly to know-it-alls and broscientists.

    Note to self:
    Haters gonna hate.
    So now I'm going to make total light of the situation with this little ditty, and frankly I've offended enough people here with my personal opinion that I don't give a rats *kitten* anymore ...

    At first I was annoyed
    I was horrified
    Kept thinking how do people live
    Full of preservatives inside.
    I spent so many hours
    Searching the net alone
    And I came to realize
    These people take my opinions all wrong!

    And so I’m back
    I found my place
    I posted in the forum
    Not to put a sad look upon your face
    I shouldn’t have to apologize
    Cause you stuff Cheetos in your mug
    But you’d rather blame society
    Cause the junk foods like a drug!

    Go on now go
    Lay off my post
    Just turn around now
    'Cause you're comments aren’t welcome anymore

    I will survive !!!

    And please people ... this is intended as s lighthearted joke !!!

    :indifferent:
  • confuzzledwife
    confuzzledwife Posts: 142 Member
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    Geez, I'm so tired of all these rants about what other people are doing and not doing. Unless you have a degree in nutrition and exercise, I'm not trying to hear what you have to say. Let people eat and exercise how they want to. How does it hurt you, if someone else isn't eating enough/working out enough IF you are? Worry about yourself and your weight loss and Lead by your ACTIONS NOT YOUR RANTS.
    Thank you!

    ^^^ what she said!
  • HonkyTonks
    HonkyTonks Posts: 1,193 Member
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    I am amazed at the public food diaries I see. I don't understand how my MFP peeps expect to lose weight cramming all their calories in one, maybe two meals.


    I'm not so sure it really matters when you eat your calories. There are some days I eat half of mine in one meal, but hasn't hindered me in the slightest. The body doesn't care if you eat three meals, two or seven.

    Actually it does. I mean you will see your self lose weight by just counting calories and staying under a certain number, but you would be even more successful by eating more low-calorie meals in a day. The more meals you eat in a day the more "exercise" your metabolism gets. If you eat all your calories in one meal, your metabolism is "turned off" or however you want to put it...So when you start eating, it takes time for your metabolism to catch up to you, not burning off as much as you could if you spread out your calories in your day with more frequent meals. It then doesn't have a chance to completely shut down, allowing for it to be active at the beginning of your meals instead of in the middle of it.

    Your metabolism does not 'shut down' when you are not eating. Why do people STILL believe this? :(
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    I am amazed at the public food diaries I see. I don't understand how my MFP peeps expect to lose weight cramming all their calories in one, maybe two meals.


    I'm not so sure it really matters when you eat your calories. There are some days I eat half of mine in one meal, but hasn't hindered me in the slightest. The body doesn't care if you eat three meals, two or seven.

    Actually it does. I mean you will see your self lose weight by just counting calories and staying under a certain number, but you would be even more successful by eating more low-calorie meals in a day. The more meals you eat in a day the more "exercise" your metabolism gets. If you eat all your calories in one meal, your metabolism is "turned off" or however you want to put it...So when you start eating, it takes time for your metabolism to catch up to you, not burning off as much as you could if you spread out your calories in your day with more frequent meals. It then doesn't have a chance to completely shut down, allowing for it to be active at the beginning of your meals instead of in the middle of it.

    Actually, you're wrong. Scientific studies, many of which have been referenced with links in this discussion already, show that you're wrong.

    Now, personally, I prefer eating 4-6 small meals daily because I have never liked the feeling of a full stomach and get filled easily. I also work from home so that's easy for me to do. But I don't for a single second pretend that this is a superior way of eating to rev up my metabolism. (Well, actually, I used to think that until I learned I was wrong.)

    Anyway, point is, as long as people are meeting their calorie and macro-/micro-nutrient targets most of the time, they will lose weight and be healthy in the process.

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, so if I eat Big Mac's and Whopper Combos everyday, but stay in my "macro-/micro-nutrient" I will be healthy? Think you so much for clearing this up for me. And all this time, I thought fat and greasy foods were bad.
    If you can hit your macros and micros properly, then yes, it would be perfectly healthy. Hitting your macros and micros means hitting the appropriate levels of carbs, fat, protein, vitamins, minerals, fiber, etc. What you eat to reach those limits does NOT make a difference to your body. Your digestive system doesn't know the difference between a Big Mac, and a Paleo friendly homemade version. It just sees the molecular components of the food, the amino acid chains, fatty acids, etc. As long as you hit your total calories, and hit the proper amount of macros and micros, you will be perfectly healthy.
  • marcenepea
    marcenepea Posts: 364 Member
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    Geez, I'm so tired of all these rants about what other people are doing and not doing. Unless you have a degree in nutrition and exercise, I'm not trying to hear what you have to say. Let people eat and exercise how they want to. How does it hurt you, if someone else isn't eating enough/working out enough IF you are? Worry about yourself and your weight loss and Lead by your ACTIONS NOT YOUR RANTS.
    Thank you!


    I agree with this! Unless someone asks your advice. There are a variety of ways that work for weight loss. What works for 1 person might not work for someone else. Just do what works for you to the best of your ability and let others do what works for them.

    If they ask your opinion that is different.
  • HonkyTonks
    HonkyTonks Posts: 1,193 Member
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    tigersword I <3 you :P
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    :flowerforyou:
  • doonesbury
    doonesbury Posts: 281 Member
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    Judge not, lest ye be judged!

    Matthew 7:1

    THIS!!!!!!!! Is the reason I keep my diary private!!!
  • betsygw
    betsygw Posts: 43 Member
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    Your [quote) :"It drives me crazy to hear people say they don't have time to exercise or prepare fresh foods. Seriously people? Do you know how many hours there are in a day? Trade one sedentary activity for an activity of some sort ... trade that sedentary activity in and take care of your body! Mentally AND physically you'll feel better."
    .
    ...and I say.......
    You must not have small children (4 of them ranging from young infant to 5 years), THIS really inhibits your ability to exercise and prepare healthy foods, It takes every ounce of everything in me to feed the little ones, keep them all alive, and try to cram some veggies and fruits in me, in between breast feeding every 2 hrs and changing diapers, potty training, breaking up fights, and trying to keep us all alive....going on 2 hrs of sleep a night between two babies and 2 sick kids and a hubby who works 80+ hrs and no family or any help....I am just saying, its easy to judge, but we all try our best. I still manage to exercise 20-30 min 3 times a week, but would LOVE to do more, it is really not humanly possible:)
  • doonesbury
    doonesbury Posts: 281 Member
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    Geez, I'm so tired of all these rants about what other people are doing and not doing. Unless you have a degree in nutrition and exercise, I'm not trying to hear what you have to say. Let people eat and exercise how they want to. How does it hurt you, if someone else isn't eating enough/working out enough IF you are? Worry about yourself and your weight loss and Lead by your ACTIONS NOT YOUR RANTS.
    Thank you!


    I agree with this! Unless someone asks your advice. There are a variety of ways that work for weight loss. What works for 1 person might not work for someone else. Just do what works for you to the best of your ability and let others do what works for them.

    If they ask your opinion that is different.


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  • jowings
    jowings Posts: 157 Member
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    Do you have anything to back your point up with? If I provide you with peer reviewed studies that support the idea that meal frequencies don't effect metabolism and/or fat gain, would you change your position on this?

    I do not have to be right and I'll gladly stop my end of this if you would like, but as it stands now, I am presenting you with good resources that have strong evidence to suggest that you are incorrect.

    If you have anything to support your side of this, I'm happy to view it and given enough information to suggest that I'm incorrect, I'll even change my position on this, but as of now, you are just saying that I am wrong.

    /FullOfWin

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