Steroids and Dating and Attraction
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So were you on anabolic steroids?I've not read all the replies, but after first hand experience of having to take steroids for 6 months (due to a severe medical problem) I would NOT be with somebody who uses steroids, I know mine were taken orally and not injected but the mood swings I suffered where horrendous and I wouldn't want to take them they choice!! To me from what I've seen on this site people can get phenomenal bodies without the use of steroids! I don't have a particular type but HUGE pumped up bodies I don't find attractive x
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I was referring to steroids in general!! From what I have heard anabolic steroids and the type I took BOTH affect the moods!!0 -
As long as he is not emotionally unbalanced or ever dared lay a finger on me in anger, then I wouldn't care if a guy used steroids or not. I would have plastic surgery if I could afford it and I like a drop of the sauce at the weekend, so who would I be to judge? It's obviously more impressive if he is a hulking beast from sheer hard work and lots of food, but it's his flesh at the end of the day.0
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If they were legal, and cheaper I would have used them in the past. No reason to now.
But I have never used anything, ever, and was a member of the American Drug Free Powerlifting Associate in the 90's when i did lift competitively.
All the negative side effects, and problems that I have heard of, and seen are nearly always the result of overuse, or abuse.
Side note, I have never worked out with the goal of being more attractive to anyone. I work out for me.............but my wife digs me.
You know what's interesting. They are cheap, if you think of protein shakes, creatine, and other little supplements. Add that together in a monthly bill, it would be cheaper to use. It's more of a moral decision.
I spend $14.95 on supplements a month, one 2lb tub of body fortress from walmart. I would be impressed if you could find anabolic steroids for that price.0 -
Unfounded. While some steroids can affect people with mood issues that are already prevalent, they haven't been found to CAUSE actual mood issues.I was referring to steroids in general!! From what I have heard anabolic steroids and the type I took BOTH affect the moods!!
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When I was younger I REALLY wanted to "juice" along with many of the dudes in the gym who were making great gains and competing. Problem for me was that I was a broke starving student who was using what little money I had to pay for a gym membership, my gas for my car, my car insurance and food. So steroids weren't affordable.
As I grew older, I didn't compete as much so the desire for steroids declined tremendously since after this time I was very much involved with working rather then hitting the gym super hard (I still trained, just not like I used to). I kept my physique pretty much intact and eventually went the route of becoming a PT.
Here's the thing, had I been on them and got off, I would have gotten smaller. That's inevitable. Even with PCT, you're going to reduce in size unless you get back on cycle.
I've been close to the same size (give or take 10lbs) for the last 20 years now and am glad I haven't had the issues that some of my former gym pals do with having to still juice to keep their desired size. I'm vain, but not that vain.
That said, if people want to do them safely, then it's none of my business.
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His tattoo makes me gigglethis is my man wooo!
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I have been in a relationship with a man who did steroids. Everything else aside roid rage is no joke and I would never date anything who took steroids again.
A good analogy is steroids are like alcohol... they can increase the persons normal state. A person who is always mad and drinks would probably be an angry drunk, compared to someone who is always happy, they will be a happy drunk.
I would disagree with this. Alcohol is a depressant, even if someone appears happy while they are drinking, it's still a depressant and often that crash comes later on. I am a very positive happy calm person, when I drink I am happier and love everybody, once I start to come down though, I crash hard emotionally. So...it is a depressant, no matter who drinks it. I choose to just stay away from it altogether as it's not worth it for me!
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I've yet to hear anyone address the ethical part of it within sports. I don't discount hard work people put into it their sport/craft. However, where is the line drawn with what is okay to aid an athlete? I admire the hell out of Konstantinovs (world class powerlifter), but if I found out he was using steroids in order to aid his training, as the corny ad campaign says, it would kind of put an asterisk next to his name. It makes it hard to aspire to be like someone when you know this.
I've even read on other sites where people ask "Where does the natural competitor come into play?" and the response tends to be "They don't." That's the biggest issue I take with steroid use. That if you want to truly compete in strength sports, the mentality is that you have to use steroids to do so.
I struggle with this one. I am a huge Ryan Braun fan and when he went through his little dramatic event recently I had this conversation with many people. Part of me says "may the best man win!" If you are willing to spend extra money, time, or risk your fertility to be the best athlete you can be, who am I to judge? The reality is that knowledge, resources, and money are what makes the world go round, not just in sports. If you have the ability to find something that makes you even better at what you do and you can afford to do it, why should anyone have a say in it? When it comes to sports like baseball, you still have to be good to go some where. Steroids alone aren't going to make that bat meet that ball. They just might enhance what you are already capable of doing.0 -
I would absolutely try taking steroids! I would not ABUSE them thou. I would do my research first thou. Steroids helps tons of people and as long as taken in moderation they aren't a problem. That being said they are not something I have sought out but would definitely not say I would never take them. Just my two cents0
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And I didn't read all 9 pages of this topic (sorry) but if you haven't seen the movie bigger stronger faster, I suggest you see it!0
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I've yet to hear anyone address the ethical part of it within sports. I don't discount hard work people put into it their sport/craft. However, where is the line drawn with what is okay to aid an athlete? I admire the hell out of Konstantinovs (world class powerlifter), but if I found out he was using steroids in order to aid his training, as the corny ad campaign says, it would kind of put an asterisk next to his name. It makes it hard to aspire to be like someone when you know this.
I've even read on other sites where people ask "Where does the natural competitor come into play?" and the response tends to be "They don't." That's the biggest issue I take with steroid use. That if you want to truly compete in strength sports, the mentality is that you have to use steroids to do so.
I struggle with this one. I am a huge Ryan Braun fan and when he went through his little dramatic event recently I had this conversation with many people. Part of me says "may the best man win!" If you are willing to spend extra money, time, or risk your fertility to be the best athlete you can be, who am I to judge? The reality is that knowledge, resources, and money are what makes the world go round, not just in sports. If you have the ability to find something that makes you even better at what you do and you can afford to do it, why should anyone have a say in it? When it comes to sports like baseball, you still have to be good to go some where. Steroids alone aren't going to make that bat meet that ball. They just might enhance what you are already capable of doing.
Good comment.
The other piece of this that people fail to realize is that you don't just grow when you inject. If you don't eat right and have a good lifting program the steroids do nothing for you.0 -
I have been in a relationship with a man who did steroids. Everything else aside roid rage is no joke and I would never date anything who took steroids again.
A good analogy is steroids are like alcohol... they can increase the persons normal state. A person who is always mad and drinks would probably be an angry drunk, compared to someone who is always happy, they will be a happy drunk.
I would disagree with this. Alcohol is a depressant, even if someone appears happy while they are drinking, it's still a depressant and often that crash comes later on. I am a very positive happy calm person, when I drink I am happier and love everybody, once I start to come down though, I crash hard emotionally. So...it is a depressant, no matter who drinks it. I choose to just stay away from it altogether as it's not worth it for me!
That's not what "depressant" means in this context: it simply means that it slows the speed of signals though your nervous system, causing symptoms like slurred speech and clumsiness. It does not refer to any effect on mood, although it is true that through things like social context and underinhibited behaviour, many people do experience a mood crash as they sober up, but that is not universal, and is not a direct result of the depressant drug.0 -
This is an interesting topic! There's definitely pressure for men to meet certain societal standards of attractiveness: a toned, muscular physique with a pronounced v-taper. Hell, I even remember when I was a little kid that the action figures I played with had chests like upside-down triangles that were ludicrously vascular - Schwarzenegger, action heroes, that whole deal. Anyway, there's definitely pressure to meet that sort of expectation of aesthetic beauty. It's kind of embarrassing, but I had that sort of fleeting fantasy of "what if I took steroids." Ultimately I reached the conclusion that most other people on this discussion did - it feels like too much of a shortcut , and as a former athlete it feels like cheating. I know a lot of hard work is required in addition to taking steroids to achieve the really explosive results, but I think people should just stick with what's natural for the most part.0
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A lot of misinformation in this thread in the beginning but luckily Niner was here to the rescue (and a few others)
I have never done a cycle of steriods but I am on prescription HRT. It's the same stuff as you would use if you were on a cycle but you take it once every few weeks instead of every second day. To those who say it affects you're mood, yes it does. For me, prior to HRT I was eating well, getting my 8hrs of sleep a night & waking up feeling like I hadn't slept a wink. Now, I do exactly the same but don't feel like ****!
I find it funny how people say steroids are cheating though. If you are not in some sort of professional competition, who is it cheating?
What I think is ridiculous is guys who suddenly decide to get on a health kick, go to the gym for 2 months, reach their first plateau and think they need steroids to get past it. THAT is stupid! I know of guys who are deadlifting 1rm 1.25x BW and using steroids. I'm pretty sure you are NO WAY NEAR you're genetic potential.
So funny that people think you have a cycle and instantly you have "balloon muscles" :laugh:
P.S I won't date a girl that smokes. No moral issues, they just stink
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P.S I won't date a girl that smokes. No moral issues, they just stink
Remember if she smokes, she pokes lol.
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First off, I'm a police officer and if not for the illegality of steroids, I'd use a cycle or two during the year. Now remember, there is use and abuse. Bodybuilders, along with hard work and impeccable diet, abuse steroids...as evident by their "pregnant" belly. Remember, they were legal and the FDA and DEA both fought against them becoming illegal when Congress decided to pass a law.0 -
when I take dhea, arginine, and lysine together I feel like I'm on some kind of steroids, although I never have been.0
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when I take dhea, arginine, and lysine together I feel like I'm on some kind of steroids, although I never have been.
*facepalm*
I bet you read that in a Muscletech ad?0 -
THIS IS AN OPEN DISCUSSION.
Okay let's face it, women love muscles and are immediately attracted to a strong looking male - sociobiological theory and whatnot. That said, the temptation of anabolic steroids or prohormones or anything of the sort is pretty strong amongst men, whether they admit it or not. I, for one, have FLEETINGLY (I stress fleetingly here) thought about it. I'd never ever do it though, as I've come to the simple conclusion that I would not be happy with myself if I did (not even going into the illegality of it - not worth it). I could never be proud of my accomplishments, although I do agree it takes massive amounts of work as well. I simply could not respect myself for going that route. I'm young enough where I can still reach my genetic limit by the time I'm in my lower/mid-30s, and I'm more than fine with that.
QUESTION FOR THE WOMEN: Would you ever date/marry a man who has used/uses steroids or prohormones? Would you be able to respect them? Because after the first impressions of physical attraction, a conscious effort has to be made to overcome that, once knowing he shoots himself in the butt with steroids lol. Would that be morally a dealbreaker for you? Granted, this may be a morality issue, as I'm sure lots of people here use recreational drugs and whatnot and steroids can be arguably defended as safer than prescription pill poppers looking to get high.
QUESTION FOR THE MEN: Have you thought about using, or have used (if you're man enough to admit it lol)? And do you respect the guys who do use them?
OH and I'm not talking about Ronnie Coleman/Phil Heath/Freakishly big people. I mean people who are jacked but would make it hard to determine if they've used or not.
DISCUSS.
Dunno. There's an incredibly cut, manly man at work when he takes his shirt off it's quite surprising.
But he's a complete tosser and I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.
My first husband was 150kg or soemthing, very round. I didn't care.
My current lover is 70kg, very skinny. I don't care.
It's the nature of the person that matters. I don't know if I'd consider steroids to be a moral issue but I certainly would consider them a lack of self confidence issue, and I suppose I'd be concerned, but if they weren't going into rages and trying to beat me up I don't have an issue other than that it's not necessary.0 -
No I would stay with someone who was still using them but if they've stopped and they are definately in the past then we may have a future. We all have stuff in our past we'd like to get past0
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In on discussion.
As far as women go, I think a lot of them (men also) don't have a good enough understanding of steroids or pro hormones. I know my girlfriend is completely against the thought of me taking them.
I've personally thought about both and don't feel that it should affect my relationship. I wouldn't want to feel guilty or feel that I have to hide my use though. I don't think it's something to be ashamed of.
Anabolics got a bad label, similar to the way marijuana is looked down upon when it's really not that dangerous. People fear what they don't understand.
I plan on taking prohormones this summer (epistane) to get my bulk started. I honestly leaned towards steroids because they're actually a bit easier on your body IMO, but finding them is a little harder since they're illegal.0 -
Have you seen "Natural" Body Builders? They look fabulous! I would much rather see a man who does natural body building than that unnatural, vein popping, ..... eugh... gross. XP
Natural bodybuilders have popping veins too. Just sayin'.
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I actually think he looks great and have serious respect for anyone with that level of dedication to their craft or sport. I think he looks way better than this guy:
Yes, I know guys who juice still have to work hard at it, but I just think the natural bodybuilders look better.
I feel that this level of body building defeats the purpose of being healthy.
The is a difference between your body serving you to live a great life, to support your endeavors and be strong and capable.
And being a slave to you body. I expect these men are not only slaves to their physic, but so bulked up it prevents them from accomplishing daily activities.
Can sit cross-legged on the floor and play with your kids, I expect muscles that big get in the way as much as that much fat would. Our bodies are our vehicles to get through live... there are no trade ins.0 -
no, it was done with empirical research.when I take dhea, arginine, and lysine together I feel like I'm on some kind of steroids, although I never have been.
*facepalm*
I bet you read that in a Muscletech ad?First off, I'm a police officer and if not for the illegality of steroids, I'd use a cycle or two during the year.
this actually deserves a *facepalm*. Just what we'd need, a police officer with roid rage.0 -
Have you seen "Natural" Body Builders? They look fabulous! I would much rather see a man who does natural body building than that unnatural, vein popping, ..... eugh... gross. XP Natural bodybuilders have popping veins too. Just sayin'.
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I actually think he looks great and have serious respect for anyone with that level of dedication to their craft or sport. I think he looks way better than this guy:
Yes, I know guys who juice still have to work hard at it, but I just think the natural bodybuilders look better.
I feel that this level of body building defeats the purpose of being healthy.
The is a difference between your body serving you to live a great life, to support your endeavors and be strong and capable.
And being a slave to you body. I expect these men are not only slaves to their physic, but so bulked up it prevents them from accomplishing daily activities.
Can sit cross-legged on the floor and play with your kids, I expect muscles that big get in the way as much as that much fat would. Our bodies are our vehicles to get through live... there are no trade ins.
The second is a photoshop (as previously stated)/ Also, bodybuilders aren't carb depleted and dehydrated 24/7 like they are to prepare for their competitions.0 -
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The second is a photoshop (as previously stated)/ Also, bodybuilders aren't carb depleted and dehydrated 24/7 like they are to prepare for their competitions.
This. most of them walk around 20 pounds or more over their contest weight.
they just cut down right before comps.0 -
First off, I'm a police officer and if not for the illegality of steroids, I'd use a cycle or two during the year.
this actually deserves a *facepalm*. Just what we'd need, a police officer with roid rage.
Ignorance again. Roid rage doesn't exist.
Steroids are like alcohol, if you're an a-hole before steroids, you're a bigger a-hole on them. If you're a naturally aggressive person, you will feel more aggressive, but steroids don't make you lose your inhibitions like alcohol or other drugs. In fact, we can make another comparison between alcohol and steroids to make it relevant to the topic.
Ladies, do you date men who drink alcohol? Alcohol has actually proven to be beneficial health wise when taken in moderation, so have steroids. Alcohol has been proven to be deadly when abused, steroids have negative effects, but haven't been proven to be deadly. Alcohol causes more deaths than any other drug, zero deaths have been caused due to steroid use. Besides the legality of the substance, I don't see a difference.0 -
Lol, most females who have husbands in their late 30's and up should want their husbands with low libido to take some testosterone............................................if you ain't getting any, this is definitely one of the reasons why.
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Lol, most females who have husbands in their late 30's and up should want their husbands with low libido to take some testosterone............................................if you ain't getting any, this is definitely one of the reasons why.
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And its shown women benefit from a touch of testosterone as well :P.0 -
Lol, why is it that so many think that people on roids are nothing but muslcehead behemoth's? Bet that many don't know that many track and field, NFL, and other pro sports competitors have quite a few athletes juicing. They just haven't been caught yet.I can't bring myself to do roids. I'm still overweight and have yet to see what an ab on me looks like. Besides I want to be able to wipe my @$$.
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Lol, why is it that so many think that people on roids are nothing but muslcehead behemoth's? Bet that many don't know that many track and field, NFL, and other pro sports competitors have quite a few athletes juicing. They just haven't been caught yet.
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I'd argue at least 50% are using HGH or a form of steroids at the pro level, 75% or more at the college and amateur level, and a lot more than you would expect at the high school level. But you're right, they just haven't been caught yet since testing always comes after0
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