Tried to eat more it does not work

I find your responses funny. My doctor is both a nutritionist and a MD. She has a bachelor in nutrition and worked as a fitness trainer and went back to med school after her first daughter was born to become a doctor and own her own weightloss clinic. SO before you go and posting about things you are not clued in on, ask first. Just a suggestion.

I am also educated in nurtition and science. I do think that it depends on where you get your information from whether or not it is correct. I hold a bachelor in animal science and hold a teaching certificate in science. I understand that I must research my topics and doctors. I HAVE researched them and she is very well credited in her area of specialty. My point was on how you state your position (most were rude and mean) and that if you are NOT in a specialty to not pass out your opinion because some people will bite and it may actually hurt their health.

ALSO if you are passing out these advices but not considering all the health of that person, like diabetes, high blood pressure, thyroid disease, cardio disease, immune disorder and liver function, then you should really not tell people what they should be doing. IT may effect their health. I just stated what my doctor told ME to do. The human body has other factors that play into how it works. Hormones are a big piece of that puzzle and everyones body makes these hormones on different levels and therefore will always have different results.

I am not argueing or debating with anyone. My heart just hurt for this woman who asked for simple help when people were just flat out rude or mean. So I hope she figures out what works and is successful in her journey. May the weight fall off and you find your true happiness.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985

How bout the NIH? Do that count as a reputal source for meal timing?



OP, lets try to put some stuff in perspective and try to be as unbias as possible. It's obvious things aren't working for you. I say this for a few simple reasons. First, if it was working, then why would you have increased your calories in the first place? And I believe Einstein said the definition of insanity is " doing the same experiement over and over and expecting different results". So going back to your old ways will cause an issue right?


Now, there are a few main factors you have to consider when looking for weight loss, or more importanly, fat loss. The two main variables are a BMR and your TDEE. Your BMR is aka as your metabolic rate. This is the amount of calories your body requires to run the systems (organs, brain, etc...) and your TDEE is the amount of calories your body burns throughout a day, including exercise. Now for all those who are "older" and say I have a slower metabolic rate, there is a reason for it. As people age, your body has a harder time holding onto lean muscle mass. Is that a problem? Not soo much. This just means your starting point to measure TDEE is lower than your 20 year old twin. I know we all want to say we are special and different but we aren't (see first link for more information).

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html

Ok, so now we established that you have two major variables, we have to evaluate your caloric needs (aka - calories to burn fat, maintain lean muscle mass and run all the systems). To understand, I will do some estimates based on real life people I have worked with. One of the people I am working with used to eat 1400 calories and did a ton of cardio. She plateau'd around 145 lbs for months. She is 36 years old and came to me after seeing some post of mine (as you can tell with my followers). And here is her response

"I just wanted to thank you for your help. You helped me a few months back and I just wanted to give you an update on my progress. 12 weeks ago I started at 154 and 28% bf. I got my bf remeasured last Friday and it was 24%. But I only lost 1 pound. It is crazy to me but I have learned to ignore the scale. You were right that keeping consistent and not giving up my body would finally adjust.

Thanks again for your help!

Stephanie"


BTW, her routine is ONLY weight lifting. Zero cardio. And she was eating 2100 calories on workout days and 1800 calories on non workout days.


It's a simple known fact, that your body needs calories to burn. Calories = fuel. So what happens when you don't eat enough calories? You put a lot of stress on your body and your body fights back (see second link)

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

So for all those number geeks, lets look at an example. Lets say your BMR is 1400 calories and you do 30DS (where you burn 300 calories a day) and you live a sedentary lifestyle. That means your caloric needs are:


1400 * 1.2 + 300 = 1980

From there we can form a deficit

i use a 20% deficit as the bigger you are, the large the deficit you can sustain and this will help preserve muscle mass

=1980 * .8 = 1584

This means, your nutritional needs are 1600 calories a day. Now eating below this doesn't mean you will lose faster. The math says it will, but the body can contradict the math as proven by those on VLCD that are already in a healthier weight limit and those who hit weight loss plateaus.


Lets start here and discuss. I could rant for longer but I will reframe.

Lemon

I find your responses funny. My doctor is both a nutritionist and a MD. She has a bachelor in nutrition and worked as a fitness trainer and went back to med school after her first daughter was born to become a doctor and own her own weightloss clinic. SO before you go and posting about things you are not clued in on, ask first. Just a suggestion.

I am also educated in nurtition and science. I do think that it depends on where you get your information from whether or not it is correct. I hold a bachelor in animal science and hold a teaching certificate in science. I understand that I must research my topics and doctors. I HAVE researched them and she is very well credited in her area of specialty. My point was on how you state your position (most were rude and mean) and that if you are NOT in a specialty to not pass out your opinion because some people will bite and it may actually hurt their health.

ALSO if you are passing out these advices but not considering all the health of that person, like diabetes, high blood pressure, thyroid disease, cardio disease, immune disorder and liver function, then you should really not tell people what they should be doing. IT may effect their health. I just stated what my doctor told ME to do. The human body has other factors that play into how it works. Hormones are a big piece of that puzzle and everyones body makes these hormones on different levels and therefore will always have different results.

I am not argueing or debating with anyone. My heart just hurt for this woman who asked for simple help when people were just flat out rude or mean. So I hope she figures out what works and is successful in her journey. May the weight fall off and you find your true happiness.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985

How bout the NIH? Do that count as a reputal source for meal timing?



OP, lets try to put some stuff in perspective and try to be as unbias as possible. It's obvious things aren't working for you. I say this for a few simple reasons. First, if it was working, then why would you have increased your calories in the first place? And I believe Einstein said the definition of insanity is " doing the same experiement over and over and expecting different results". So going back to your old ways will cause an issue right?


Now, there are a few main factors you have to consider when looking for weight loss, or more importanly, fat loss. The two main variables are a BMR and your TDEE. Your BMR is aka as your metabolic rate. This is the amount of calories your body requires to run the systems (organs, brain, etc...) and your TDEE is the amount of calories your body burns throughout a day, including exercise. Now for all those who are "older" and say I have a slower metabolic rate, there is a reason for it. As people age, your body has a harder time holding onto lean muscle mass. Is that a problem? Not soo much. This just means your starting point to measure TDEE is lower than your 20 year old twin. I know we all want to say we are special and different but we aren't (see first link for more information).

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html

Ok, so now we established that you have two major variables, we have to evaluate your caloric needs (aka - calories to burn fat, maintain lean muscle mass and run all the systems). To understand, I will do some estimates based on real life people I have worked with. One of the people I am working with used to eat 1400 calories and did a ton of cardio. She plateau'd around 145 lbs for months. She is 36 years old and came to me after seeing some post of mine (as you can tell with my followers). And here is her response

"I just wanted to thank you for your help. You helped me a few months back and I just wanted to give you an update on my progress. 12 weeks ago I started at 154 and 28% bf. I got my bf remeasured last Friday and it was 24%. But I only lost 1 pound. It is crazy to me but I have learned to ignore the scale. You were right that keeping consistent and not giving up my body would finally adjust.

Thanks again for your help!

Stephanie"


BTW, her routine is ONLY weight lifting. Zero cardio. And she was eating 2100 calories on workout days and 1800 calories on non workout days.


It's a simple known fact, that your body needs calories to burn. Calories = fuel. So what happens when you don't eat enough calories? You put a lot of stress on your body and your body fights back (see second link)

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

So for all those number geeks, lets look at an example. Lets say your BMR is 1400 calories and you do 30DS (where you burn 300 calories a day) and you live a sedentary lifestyle. That means your caloric needs are:


1400 * 1.2 + 300 = 1980

From there we can form a deficit

i use a 20% deficit as the bigger you are, the large the deficit you can sustain and this will help preserve muscle mass

=1980 * .8 = 1584

This means, your nutritional needs are 1600 calories a day. Now eating below this doesn't mean you will lose faster. The math says it will, but the body can contradict the math as proven by those on VLCD that are already in a healthier weight limit and those who hit weight loss plateaus.


Lets start here and discuss. I could rant for longer but I will reframe.

Lemon

I find your responses funny. My doctor is both a nutritionist and a MD. She has a bachelor in nutrition and worked as a fitness trainer and went back to med school after her first daughter was born to become a doctor and own her own weightloss clinic. SO before you go and posting about things you are not clued in on, ask first. Just a suggestion.

I am also educated in nurtition and science. I do think that it depends on where you get your information from whether or not it is correct. I hold a bachelor in animal science and hold a teaching certificate in science. I understand that I must research my topics and doctors. I HAVE researched them and she is very well credited in her area of specialty. My point was on how you state your position (most were rude and mean) and that if you are NOT in a specialty to not pass out your opinion because some people will bite and it may actually hurt their health.

ALSO if you are passing out these advices but not considering all the health of that person, like diabetes, high blood pressure, thyroid disease, cardio disease, immune disorder and liver function, then you should really not tell people what they should be doing. IT may effect their health. I just stated what my doctor told ME to do. The human body has other factors that play into how it works. Hormones are a big piece of that puzzle and everyones body makes these hormones on different levels and therefore will always have different results.

I am not argueing or debating with anyone. My heart just hurt for this woman who asked for simple help when people were just flat out rude or mean. So I hope she figures out what works and is successful in her journey. May the weight fall off and you find your true happiness.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985

How bout the NIH? Do that count as a reputal source for meal timing?



OP, lets try to put some stuff in perspective and try to be as unbias as possible. It's obvious things aren't working for you. I say this for a few simple reasons. First, if it was working, then why would you have increased your calories in the first place? And I believe Einstein said the definition of insanity is " doing the same experiement over and over and expecting different results". So going back to your old ways will cause an issue right?


Now, there are a few main factors you have to consider when looking for weight loss, or more importanly, fat loss. The two main variables are a BMR and your TDEE. Your BMR is aka as your metabolic rate. This is the amount of calories your body requires to run the systems (organs, brain, etc...) and your TDEE is the amount of calories your body burns throughout a day, including exercise. Now for all those who are "older" and say I have a slower metabolic rate, there is a reason for it. As people age, your body has a harder time holding onto lean muscle mass. Is that a problem? Not soo much. This just means your starting point to measure TDEE is lower than your 20 year old twin. I know we all want to say we are special and different but we aren't (see first link for more information).

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html

Ok, so now we established that you have two major variables, we have to evaluate your caloric needs (aka - calories to burn fat, maintain lean muscle mass and run all the systems). To understand, I will do some estimates based on real life people I have worked with. One of the people I am working with used to eat 1400 calories and did a ton of cardio. She plateau'd around 145 lbs for months. She is 36 years old and came to me after seeing some post of mine (as you can tell with my followers). And here is her response

"I just wanted to thank you for your help. You helped me a few months back and I just wanted to give you an update on my progress. 12 weeks ago I started at 154 and 28% bf. I got my bf remeasured last Friday and it was 24%. But I only lost 1 pound. It is crazy to me but I have learned to ignore the scale. You were right that keeping consistent and not giving up my body would finally adjust.

Thanks again for your help!

Stephanie"


BTW, her routine is ONLY weight lifting. Zero cardio. And she was eating 2100 calories on workout days and 1800 calories on non workout days.


It's a simple known fact, that your body needs calories to burn. Calories = fuel. So what happens when you don't eat enough calories? You put a lot of stress on your body and your body fights back (see second link)

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

So for all those number geeks, lets look at an example. Lets say your BMR is 1400 calories and you do 30DS (where you burn 300 calories a day) and you live a sedentary lifestyle. That means your caloric needs are:


1400 * 1.2 + 300 = 1980

From there we can form a deficit

i use a 20% deficit as the bigger you are, the large the deficit you can sustain and this will help preserve muscle mass

=1980 * .8 = 1584

This means, your nutritional needs are 1600 calories a day. Now eating below this doesn't mean you will lose faster. The math says it will, but the body can contradict the math as proven by those on VLCD that are already in a healthier weight limit and those who hit weight loss plateaus.


Lets start here and discuss. I could rant for longer but I will reframe.

Lemon

But on 1600 calories a day with 300 30ds every day the net will only be 1300 cals. This is below the bmr suggested of 1400. This is not good advice.

I agree with you!!! I was told the same thing because I range anywhere from 1000-1200 a day and I am losing about 1-2 pounds a week. When I eat more I don't do so well. Everyone is different and I'm not going to force myself to eat just to get over 1200 calories. That's crazy to me. Your body has a way of telling you to eat hungry so if your not feeling it don't do it.

Thanks for that l agree..I do eat every 2-3 hours throughout the day so l am keeping my body in fuel so that l do not burn out and l am very fit and on the go all day long with 3 kids and work to keep me busy and l am very happy eating around 1200 or least.

I am not going to eat the calories that l am burning l find that not right, why burn calories if you are only going to eat them back?

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/basics-base/1_1_1-eng.php

Age Sedentary1
Level Low Active2
Level Active3
Level
2-3 y 1100 1250 1400
4-5 y 1200 1350 1500
6-7 y 1300 1500 1700
8-9 y 1400 1600 1850
10-11 y 1500 1800 2050
12-13 y 1700 2000 2250
14-16 y 1750 2100 2350
17-18 y 1750 2100 2400
19-30 y 1900 2100 2350
31-50 y 1800 2000 2250
51-70 y 1650 1850 2100
71 y + 1550 1750 2000

Best way to start a fight on the internet: Forget politics and religion, talk about your opinions on losing weight.

1) Should she eat more? Maybe. Probably.

2) Will she lose weight eating the way she is? Obviously yes. The biggest myth I see on these boards is that you can eat too little to lose any weight. As a general statement, that is crazy talk. Anorexia-stricken people do not have any trouble getting skinny. People in forced labor camps aren't flabby. Use your brains, folks. You can eat too little for health, you can slow your metabolism down, you can have increased difficulty losing weight at the same speed as your metabolism lowers, but no, you can't net 500 calories a day and not lose fat. If you are genuinely netting 500 calories a day and not losing weight, you are a medical MIRACLE or simply underestimating your calorie intake or overestimating your TDEE.

3) Long term, it is better to deficit 500 calories a day (of total burned, not your BMR, folks), not as many as you can per day. A great calorie deficit might trigger your body to try to make up for it in ways that will eventually sabotage your weight loss plan. Additionally, the less you eat, the more likely it is that you miss out on important vitamins and enzymes that are difficult to get back through pills and enriched drinks.

Go to reports, nutrition, net calories

I am not sure what you are on, but l am not killing myself.

I have been to Jenny Craig and they had me on 1200 calories a day with 1 hour of exercise..

Doing the same as if l was still with Jenny Craig

I am fit and very health by all blood test done and a full check up with my doctor..