Your views on 'CARBOHYDRATES'

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  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    WOW, you are using LiveStrong as a credible source?

    There is no biological need for carbs:
    This is why there is no biological need for carbohydrates. The body will make the glucose (sugar) it needs from protein and natural fat.
    Reference: Basic Medical Biochemistry: A Clinical Approach, pg. 24, 394. Dawn B. Marks, Allan D. Marks, Colleen M. Smith, Lippincott, Williams & Wilkins, August 1996, ISBN: 068305595X.

    That's about equivalent to marksdailyapple or gnolls or websites like that
  • getfitdiva
    getfitdiva Posts: 1,148 Member
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    I consider simple carbs or empty calories that have no real nutrition value which I'm sure some people have mentioned are the worse . . . for me personally tend to make you crave more simple carbs and get that bloated feeling. I try to have complex carbs for the nutrients such as veggies and whole grains, and fiber. I have to monitor my carbs b/c if I introduce any type of simple carbs its downhill from here.
  • grinch031
    grinch031 Posts: 1,679
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    I agree. Having grown up before they existed, I highly suspect the TV remote as one of the key factors in obesity. Can you imagine? Actually having to get up and walk to the TV every time you wanted to change the channel. Not to mention having to sometime climb on the roof to adjust the antenna. And then there are video games...

    That certainly doesn't help. Agreed. But there seems to be more to it than that.

    Of course there is. Take any animal, give it a life that doesn't require work and an unlimited supply of easy food and it will become fat. In America, and other nations were life can be as easy as we want and we can eat all we want, we have to fight our very nature to stay fit and thin. Exercising regularly and preparing meals from natural foods just to stay healthy and thin takes work. Humans don't seem to like work.

    Most of us have access to unlimited amounts of food, yet not everyone gets fat because of it regardless of whether they put in effort or not. Also not all foods are created equal in this regards.

    The question I pose to the scientific world is what it is exactly about certain foods that leads to overeating.
  • jessicaoliver79
    jessicaoliver79 Posts: 28 Member
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    I need to do some research on this myself, but i do know that when I tried the adkins diet you are only allowed 20 grams of carbs a day. I couldnt function, I felt awful and didnt even want to get out of bed!
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    Grinch I checked your profile to see your progress pics but you dont have any. SInce you each such a perfect diet could you share pics with us to show us the fruits of such a strict diet? Thanks,

    Why are you attacking someone personally for their opinions on epidemiological issues and questions? Someone's personal fitness has very little to do with complex obesity epidemic. If I discounted everyone's input because they're fatter than me, then I'd have no reason to be here...
    I wasnt attacking anyone?? Just wanted to see the results of such a strict diet.

    But not having results yet doesn't mean your plan doesn't work. And not wanting to post pics of yourself on the www doesn't mean that you haven't had success. I met my goal a year ago and have maintained since but that's not really me in my profile pic.

    Besides we are just talking about what are or are not unhealthy foods. That doesn't require pics.
  • laurasimmons
    laurasimmons Posts: 578 Member
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    I love my carbs, I just try to get mine mainly from natural food sources like fruits and veggies and the occasional slice of pizza!
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    I agree. Having grown up before they existed, I highly suspect the TV remote as one of the key factors in obesity. Can you imagine? Actually having to get up and walk to the TV every time you wanted to change the channel. Not to mention having to sometime climb on the roof to adjust the antenna. And then there are video games...

    That certainly doesn't help. Agreed. But there seems to be more to it than that.

    Of course there is. Take any animal, give it a life that doesn't require work and an unlimited supply of easy food and it will become fat. In America, and other nations were life can be as easy as we want and we can eat all we want, we have to fight our very nature to stay fit and thin. Exercising regularly and preparing meals from natural foods just to stay healthy and thin takes work. Humans don't seem to like work.

    Most of us have access to unlimited amounts of food, yet not everyone gets fat because of it regardless of whether they put in effort or not. Also not all foods are created equal in this regards.

    The question I pose to the scientific world is what it is exactly about certain foods that leads to overeating.

    Taste is my theory, based soley on my half century of personal experience.
  • Ripken818836701
    Ripken818836701 Posts: 607 Member
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    I wasnt attacking anyone?? Just wanted to see the results of such a strict diet.

    As if you're mocking tone and sarcasm was lost on me.... it was rude, and you know it.
    No your assuming the worst!! Mocking tone and sarcasm?? I didnt mean to be mocking or sarcastic. Its just that I wanted to see the results of the grinch's sacrifice, I will pretty much sacrifice my free time and spend more time in the gym, sacrifice the foods I love ( and I love carbs) and change my diet etc. to improve my body and health if the sacrifice is worth the effort.
  • TiredandReadyForLoss
    TiredandReadyForLoss Posts: 41 Member
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    I want to know how the atkins or other low carb diets work for people? I tried eating less than 20 carbs a day, worked out 3 days a week (cardio and strength training) and was only losing a pound a week (if that). Not complaining about that pound and I know the slower it comes off the better off, but for a "rapid weight loss" plan, it wasn't rapid at all. In addition there were people eating good food (brown rice, whole wheat bread that were beating my weight loss by just walking 3 times per week.) SOOO confused!
  • Ripken818836701
    Ripken818836701 Posts: 607 Member
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    Grinch I checked your profile to see your progress pics but you dont have any. SInce you each such a perfect diet could you share pics with us to show us the fruits of such a strict diet? Thanks,

    Why are you attacking someone personally for their opinions on epidemiological issues and questions? Someone's personal fitness has very little to do with complex obesity epidemic. If I discounted everyone's input because they're fatter than me, then I'd have no reason to be here...
    I wasnt attacking anyone?? Just wanted to see the results of such a strict diet.

    But not having results yet doesn't mean your plan doesn't work. And not wanting to post pics of yourself on the www doesn't mean that you haven't had success. I met my goal a year ago and have maintained since but that's not really me in my profile pic.

    Besides we are just talking about what are or are not unhealthy foods. That doesn't require pics.
    I'm glad that isnt you in your profile pic. because if it was, I want to kill and eat you!!
  • shammxo
    shammxo Posts: 1,432 Member
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    I <3 Carbs.
  • dsckrc
    dsckrc Posts: 194 Member
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    everything in moderation...
  • HardcorePork
    HardcorePork Posts: 109 Member
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    everything in moderation...

    except child porn...
  • JennieAL
    JennieAL Posts: 1,726 Member
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    I go for the gold... I get most of mine straight out of a Ben & Jerry's pint.
  • jstout913
    jstout913 Posts: 10 Member
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    My view is that you need carbs, just not all the bad ones. You need to eat whole grains, stay away from white flour and starchy items such as white rice and potatoes. It's ok to have them, just not in excess. Excessive use of the wrong carbs leads to belly fat and increased chances of type 2 diabetes. Fruit has carbs, but they are good carbs and you need the nutrients of fruits. I stopped eating white bread, white rice and potatoes for now. I'll include them later on in small quantites. This is just my view point, but I am trying to avoid diabetes, which runs in my family.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
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    I don't eat ANY bread whatsoever! No pasta - at all... no more! No crackers, no processed foods of any kind, no cereals, anything to do with the grain family... it is ALL bad for you. Serves as NO benefits AT ALL!
    What no sammiches:noway: I like sammiches. I put chips and crackers in mine:happy: You are missing out!

    You don't need it. The best fuel... BEST is from Healthy essential fats! Grains are for livestock! Healthy diet is the following...

    1.) Essential healthy Fats!
    2.) Protein from Meats, Poultry, Fish, Dairy
    3.) Minerals from FRESH green leaf vegetables, and dark berry fruits... avoid starches when losing weight. After weight goal has been reached, go ahead and eat the REAL FOODS that are starchy.

    But breads, grains... all of that boxed pasta, all of it is bad!


    Umm, livestock doesn't need grains either. Cows were meant to eat grass, not corn, wheat and soy
  • dansls1
    dansls1 Posts: 309 Member
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    No. Carbohydrates are NOT essential to life. You couldn't be more wrong on this.

    Source of that info?

    To save you from reading a wall of text, I'll just post a link for your reading enjoyment.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/how-many-carbohydrates-do-you-need.html

    So it says you need none, but recommends you eat some...
  • 10KEyes
    10KEyes Posts: 250 Member
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    I dont know were you hail from but here in PA. our diets were just as grain based in the 1930's as they are today.

    That is absurd and completely false!
  • Ripken818836701
    Ripken818836701 Posts: 607 Member
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    I don't eat ANY bread whatsoever! No pasta - at all... no more! No crackers, no processed foods of any kind, no cereals, anything to do with the grain family... it is ALL bad for you. Serves as NO benefits AT ALL!
    What no sammiches:noway: I like sammiches. I put chips and crackers in mine:happy: You are missing out!

    You don't need it. The best fuel... BEST is from Healthy essential fats! Grains are for livestock! Healthy diet is the following...

    1.) Essential healthy Fats!
    2.) Protein from Meats, Poultry, Fish, Dairy
    3.) Minerals from FRESH green leaf vegetables, and dark berry fruits... avoid starches when losing weight. After weight goal has been reached, go ahead and eat the REAL FOODS that are starchy.

    But breads, grains... all of that boxed pasta, all of it is bad!


    Umm, livestock doesn't need grains either. Cows were meant to eat grass, not corn, wheat and soy
    The whitetail deer has about the same digistive system as a cow does and they thrive better now than when their diets consisted of meat.
  • 10KEyes
    10KEyes Posts: 250 Member
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    The whitetail deer has about the same digistive system as a cow does

    Patently false.