Bye Bye Death Penalty
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I'm against the death penalty - there have been some cases when the person hasn't been guilty.
Killing for killing = wrong IMO.
Names?????
Troy Davis was one that I can remember off the top of my head.0 -
Yes the Pettit family from CT. SOO scary its unreal, like a movie. Who would ever think that would happen to themI live in Alabama, so we still have it down here. I know this is such a touchy issue.
My opinion, is there are certain crimes, that the criminal does not deserve their life anymore. That man, if I am remembering right he is from CT, where his wife and 2 daughters were raped and murdered (burned a live)...those 2 men do not deserve their lives. They showed that they had no mercy and they do not contribute anything to our society. Their acts showed that they do not respect life...they did not respect those women's lives or their own.
Just my opinion. We had a brutal rape here in my small town (I won't give details, but she, 19 year old girl, will never have children....what he did to her is beyond disturbing)...if they catch this man, I think he should be sentenced to death. I know it was a rape and she did survive, but what he did was so brutal and barbaric, he has showed that he does not respect life.
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While I have trouble with people like Charlie Manson still being alive, I feel that it is difficult to teach that killing someone for a punishment is ever valid.
This is pretty close to my views on the subject0 -
I think that the death penalty is appropriate, but only in the most extreme and obvious of circumstances. After all, one never really knows all of the facts in the case. For example, here in Georgia, a man was sentenced to death in the early 90's for killing a police officer. But around 5 years ago the witnesses in the case all recanted their stories. ALL of them. He appealed like a million times, but they still put him to death anyway. This man may have died for a crime that he didn't commit. We will never truly know now. If Georgia had not been so liberal with the death penalty, the truth still might have come out.
But, there are also times when I feel that the circumstances warrant it. Another case here in Georgia. A few years back a man was on trial for rape. He managed to wrestle a gun away from a sheriff and shot up the court room. He murdered the sheriff, the judge, and several other people. There were plenty of witnesses that saw him do this. He is unequivocably guilty of this crime. In his case, the death penalty is appropriate. There was no question that he did it.0 -
While I have trouble with people like Charlie Manson still being alive, I feel that it is difficult to teach that killing someone for a punishment is ever valid.
I agree with this wholeheartedly.0 -
So they are abolishing the death penalty in CT. I am honestly sickened by this! In my opinion, some people cross a line of doing something/s so horrible that they lost their right to live in our world/society/community and no one is to blame but themselves!
So do you live in one of the 16 (about to be 17) states were there is no death penalty?? I know this is a touchy subject and I truly feel everyone is right in their way of thinking no matter what your stance is on it. Just curious to some of the views on this and the place you live.
That's our awesome Governor for you. I'm surprised he didn't keep it and just tax the hell out of the people who are on death row. :happy:
I agree that they shouldn't have abolished it however no one ever gets put to death and we end up paying for them while they rot in jail. It'd be different if we actually executed people.
So true!! I completely agree!0 -
I'm Canadian also, and I do agree that if the person is 100% guilty, some people are just evil and deserve to die. For example, there's a murder trial going on in London, ON right now of a man who sexually assaulted and killed a little girl. The most he'll get is 25 years (that's the harshest penalty in Canada), probably eligible for parole after half of that. THAT is sad.
Actually, the harshest penalty in Canada is life in prison with no chance of parole for 25 years... and it does not mean that parole will be granted.0 -
I wrote a paper in college about cosmetic companies torturing poor animals in order to test their products. The validity of the testing was often challenged due to the biological differences between man and animal. My suggestion was to do the testing on death row inmates. The results would be accurate and it would reduce the expense to house these inmates long term.
At the time that I wrote the paper, I never had a pet in my life and certainly did not classify myself as an animal lover.0 -
I'm against the death penalty - there have been some cases when the person hasn't been guilty.
Killing for killing = wrong IMO.
Names?????
http://www.innocenceproject.org/ A whole website of people wrongly accused.
I think that the death penalty is ridiculous. You're punishing someone for taking a life by taking a life? Hypocrisy much?!
There are way too many people that have been wrongly accused and would've been executed (if Canada had the death penalty), and later were found to be innocent. You can never be 100% sure that they did it. Even confessions are worthless in court. False confessions are given far too often to be believable anymore.0 -
I live in Texas..our death penalty isn't going anywhere..and I'm okay with that!0
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The death penalty is just way too expensive. It costs less to jail someone for life than to fry them. That's why New Jersey got rid of it a few years ago.
Besides, I rather see somone rot in jail everday for the rest of their life than get the easy way out.
That is because there is an appeals process and we keep them alive for years if not decades. I think if the judge says "guilty, sentence is death". BOOM. They are dead immediately. Shot in the head by the executioner.
I also think the lawyers should suffer the same punishment as their client. Sure would cut down on the defense of the guilty POS that committed some of these awful crimes. Plus it would really cut down on all these frivolous law suits.0 -
I don't think Troy Davis should have been sentenced to death. It's disgusting.0
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I'm Canadian also, and I do agree that if the person is 100% guilty, some people are just evil and deserve to die. For example, there's a murder trial going on in London, ON right now of a man who sexually assaulted and killed a little girl. The most he'll get is 25 years (that's the harshest penalty in Canada), probably eligible for parole after half of that. THAT is sad.
I don't know about Canadian prisons but the first people shanked in the yard in US prisons are people who do things to kids.
It happens but child predators are isolated nowadays in most prisions so authoritys are able to cut down and control the crime between inmates because naturally they are a target. I wish this wasn't so however, it is.0 -
I'm in N.C. and we still have the death penalty so far...I 100% support it as long as the person is definitely proven guilty, and if the death penalty is abolished...well there's always an eye for an eye as the Good Book says and Charlie Daniels...0
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I don't see the point of the death penalty. It often costs more... But keeping someone in a fishbowl until they die seems pointless too.0
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For all those saying the death penalty is the easy way out. I would support torturing the POS before we kill them. You opponents are assuming these POS are people. They are not. They are animals and should be culled from the herd. Put them down like you would a rabid dog.0
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I live in Connecticut, home of the notorious Petit family murders--basically a family kept hostage for hours and three murdered at the end of this horror. The mom and the 12 year-old daughter were sexually assaulted, and then gasoline was poured over the two teenaged girls beds and they were burned alive. The mother was strangled. There was only one survivor, the dad--Dr. William Petit--who worked at the hospital where I worked for 16 years. He was a mensch, and has been living with this horror for years now.
The two perps deserve severe punishment, in my opinion. I'm not sure the death penalty is it, though. Carrying out the death penalty--on principle alone--chills me to the bone.0 -
I was born in Texas, that should about sum up my view on the subject.
Texas has an express lane to the death penalty!
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I don't think Troy Davis should have been sentenced to death. It's disgusting.
I agree. I mentioned him also. But I also mentioned Brian Nichols. His crime warranted the death penalty. There was no question that he murdered those people.0 -
Yes I am for the death penalty. I think we allow them to live to long in the system. Once they are guilty put a bullet in the back of their heads. Cheap and effective.0
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I think they should all be put on a desert island. Let them kill each other instead of us paying for them to watch tv-body build-and make royalties from books they write while in prison.
This! If only if it were so simple to just ship them off to some remote land.0 -
I also think the lawyers should suffer the same punishment as their client. Sure would cut down on the defense of the guilty POS that committed some of these awful crimes. Plus it would really cut down on all these frivolous law suits.
Not sure if trolling, or just anti-american.0 -
You are sickened that they are abolishing the death penalty, yet you say the above. How old are you? Do you not understand how the court system works? You can't have it both ways.I feel the same way! I would never want someone sentenced to death unless there was 100% DNA evidence that linked them or they openly admitted to the crime. Without that, it's just not right to tell someone they are to be punished by death when it can't even be proven without a doubt.0 -
For all those saying the death penalty is the easy way out. I would support torturing the POS before we kill them. You opponents are assuming these POS are people. They are not. They are animals and should be culled from the herd. Put them down like you would a rabid dog.
Yes, and the torture should be public, so that not just the ones doing the torturing end up completely warped by the experience. In fact, schools should have field trips to see the public execution and torture of criminals. That will make our society ever so much nicer!
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So they are abolishing the death penalty in CT. I am honestly sickened by this! In my opinion, some people cross a line of doing something/s so horrible that they lost their right to live in our world/society/community and no one is to blame but themselves!
So do you live in one of the 16 (about to be 17) states were there is no death penalty?? I know this is a touchy subject and I truly feel everyone is right in their way of thinking no matter what your stance is on it. Just curious to some of the views on this and the place you live.
Wait! Really? Even after those two monsters that without a doubt raped and killed the daughters and wife of that doctors family (I can't for the life of me remember the families name, but I can remember the details of the crime).... I know they were agonizing over sentencing those two the death penalty because they were 100% without a doubt guilty (they admitted it) and they (or at least the one guy) laughed and said he would do it again if he were out... to me it's THAT type of person that needs to subjected to the death penalty... the sociopath with no signs of remorse...0 -
Here in Colorado, there is the death penalty, however sparsley used. I am pro-death penalty. Always have been. Could be because I come from a family of cops.
I had a friend in high school who's police officer father was shot and killed on duty while trying to save other people being held hostage. Thankfully the POS hung himself in jail. Didn't even have to waste the tax dollars on his butt.0 -
I think they should all be put on a desert island. Let them kill each other instead of us paying for them to watch tv-body build-and make royalties from books they write while in prison.
I'm fairly certain that there are laws in place to prevent someone convicted of a crime from capitalizing on it. The key point is that they have to ACTUALLY be convicted of it.0 -
I live in Connecticut, home of the notorious Petit family murders--basically a family kept hostage for hours and three murdered at the end of this horror. The mom and the 12 year-old daughter were sexually assaulted, and then gasoline was poured over the two teenaged girls beds and they were burned alive. The mother was strangled. There was only one survivor, the dad--Dr. William Petit--who worked at the hospital where I worked for 16 years. He was a mensch, and has been living with this horror for years now.
The two perps deserve severe punishment, in my opinion. I'm not sure the death penalty is it, though. Carrying out the death penalty--on principle alone--chills me to the bone.
"Carrying out the death penalty--on principle alone--chills me to the bone."
Could you elaborate on this statement? Im honeslty confused lol. I live in CT and have for almost my whole life so I am obviously familiar with this horrible crime and I was with you up until the end. Just not really sure what you mean.0 -
I think on the fiscal level it makes no sense. In CA they live in their own cells, have extra security, have access to all sorts of legal aid, their cases are automatically appealed. It is much more expensive to keep people on death row. And they are there for decades.
“The additional cost of confining an inmate to death row, as compared to the maximum security prisons where those sentenced to life without possibility of parole ordinarily serve their sentences, is $90,000 per year per inmate. With California’s current death row population of 670, that accounts for $63.3 million annually.â€
"The cost of a system which imposes a maximum penalty of lifetime incarceration instead of the death penalty would be $11.5 million per year."
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty0 -
That is the stupidest and most anti-American idea I've ever heard. Have you even heard of the constitution?I also think the lawyers should suffer the same punishment as their client. Sure would cut down on the defense of the guilty POS that committed some of these awful crimes. Plus it would really cut down on all these frivolous law suits.0
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