Bye Bye Death Penalty

I don't agree with the death penalty, I think it should be banned. You don't teach a thief stealing is bad by robbing him. You don't teach and arson not to burn things down by setting his house on fire and you don't kill a killer. What kind of example does that set? You can't kill because it's illegal but were allowed to kill you if you do so? Umm, no. That's like telling a kid hitting is bad as you spank them.

This is what we need to do......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDO6HV6xTmI

Ummm, people that commit murder have already proven they are not capable of learning right from wrong. It isn't about teaching them anything. It is about ridding the world from their disgusting existence!

So just one murder? Okay, what if someone kills someone in a passionate act, as in catching them with his wife and just losing his *kitten*. Should they be executed?

I didn't mean teaching them, I meant more so teaching society but I can see how I made that a bit confusing. A slow, miserable life locked in a little cell never to see family or anyone but other killers is worse than the quick easy and painless way out in my opinion.

Yes just one murder makes you a killer no matter the cause. "as in catching them with his wife and just losing his *kitten*" That is a terrible excuse to kill someone. Get a divorce don't kill them. Losing his *kitten*? Yes he is dangerous. If he kills every time he loses his *kitten* why wouldn't you lock him away?

Exactly my point. It should be "guilty!" Bang, dead. Not "guilty." sit in jail appealing for 30 years.

Again, I am in favor of capital punishment, but you don't think they deserve an appeal? You don't think courts are fallible?

How do you feel on the 10 guilty people going free before 1 innocent person is convicted philosophy?

You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

Seriously though I am not comfortable living with the fact that 10 cancers to society are not being punished just so 1 innocent's life isn't ruined. We are comfortable with doctors being allowed to practice medicine when they passed with a 70%. Why aren't we comfortable with a court system that gets it right 80% or 90% of the time.

I will concede that the court system is not perfect and convicts the innocent while releasing the guilty ( do OJ and Michael Jackson ring a bell)?

Blood thirsty savages.

Blood thirsty savages.

I'm Canadian also, and I do agree that if the person is 100% guilty, some people are just evil and deserve to die. For example, there's a murder trial going on in London, ON right now of a man who sexually assaulted and killed a little girl. The most he'll get is 25 years (that's the harshest penalty in Canada), probably eligible for parole after half of that. THAT is sad.

Yes! I completely believe in "eye for an eye" punishment. I'm all for cutting off hands of theifs , castrating molestors, etc. I think our country could benefit from some serious punishments these days.

I hear Saudi Arabia and Egypt have this code. They seem to be doing great.

I'm Canadian also, and I do agree that if the person is 100% guilty, some people are just evil and deserve to die. For example, there's a murder trial going on in London, ON right now of a man who sexually assaulted and killed a little girl. The most he'll get is 25 years (that's the harshest penalty in Canada), probably eligible for parole after half of that. THAT is sad.

I don't know about Canadian prisons but the first people shanked in the yard in US prisons are people who do things to kids.

I don't agree with the death penalty, I think it should be banned. You don't teach a thief stealing is bad by robbing him. You don't teach and arson not to burn things down by setting his house on fire and you don't kill a killer. What kind of example does that set? You can't kill because it's illegal but were allowed to kill you if you do so? Umm, no. That's like telling a kid hitting is bad as you spank them.

This is what we need to do......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDO6HV6xTmI

Ummm, people that commit murder have already proven they are not capable of learning right from wrong. It isn't about teaching them anything. It is about ridding the world from their disgusting existence!

So just one murder? Okay, what if someone kills someone in a passionate act, as in catching them with his wife and just losing his *kitten*. Should they be executed?

Yes. You're not an animal - have some self control. Beat the guy to a pulp, but leave him breathing.

but in a society with the death penalty, you are taught that death is the ultimate punishment and in a rage addled mind, you revert to basic lessons - This person deserves the ultimate penalty - and there you go.

I wrote a paper in college about cosmetic companies torturing poor animals in order to test their products. The validity of the testing was often challenged due to the biological differences between man and animal. My suggestion was to do the testing on death row inmates. The results would be accurate and it would reduce the expense to house these inmates long term.

At the time that I wrote the paper, I never had a pet in my life and certainly did not classify myself as an animal lover.

I forgot to add that my well written paper only got a C :sad:

I am one who believes that putting someone to death for a crime is letting them off easy. Once they're dead they no longer have to do anything to answer for their crimes. I am sure a lot of you probably assume they go to "hell" i]maybe that's why so many people are for the death penalty anyway[/i, but I am an atheist and I don't believe "hell" exists or that there's an afterlife of any kind in which one can be punished for actions done in life. So I don't believe that anyone should be put to death for a crime. I also don't believe that the cost of keeping them alive (approximately $50K/£31K per year in the US) should be made the responsibility of the taxpayers.

Here's where my mouth tends to get me into trouble--but I'll say it anyway. The prisoners we'd like to put to death, along with those who have been given life without parole should be made into slaves. They shouldn't be given any of the freedoms or luxuries similar to those they may have had outside of prison. All of their cards, TVs, books, etc. should be taken away and they should be put to work in a way that somehow benefits the rest of us. They should be forced to grow their own food and to live off of the prison land they cultivate--and their food should also feed the rest of their prison. Not another cent of taxpayer money should be used to feed the prisoners. These "death row slaves" would be kept in solitary confinement except for when they are out cultivating. And if they become injured, oh well, let them suffer through. Not another cent of taxpayer money should be used on death row/lifer healthcare.