Fat =/= curvy
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I find it funny how this site is supposed to be encouraging and helpful to "curvy" people but this thread proves the opposite. People have their own opinions on what is curvy or overweight. I'm tall and I have curves. I have a 34-36 DD Chest and a skinny waist and large hips/thighs. I'm curvy. I'm overweight. BUT I'm doing something about the overweight part, and it isn't exactly anyone's business or right to put down people if they are in denial about their appearance. It isn't affecting any one of you in anyway, shape or form (see the pun I did there?). So why not just agree to disagree? If you see someone who is overweight, don't judge and put them down, help them feel encouraged and strong enough to change their body for their HEALTH. Not to please you people by fitting in with a technical term of "curvy".
Yikes. Very mean people on here, I have to say. This is why I stay out of the forums. There is enough drama in "real life". and it's ridiculous to see people on here judging and complaining over someone who may be overweight but considers themselves curvy. There's more important things in life, you know, than criticizing others. Maybe the person in denial over their weight have been made fun of all their life by people who JUDGE, which made them get to the size they are now? Show some respect. :grumble:
You're missing the point. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WEIGHT. Please, read over the original post again.
It is affecting me. Because it annoys me. If it doesn't annoy you, fair enough. You don't have to participate in this thread.0 -
I really see nothing mean in this thread. I did at first with "grossly" but I saw the OP's comment on how she did not mean for it to be like that.
I doubt any of these women discussing this topic sit at home for hours screaming "UGHH curves ARE NOT NOTNOTNOT FAT!!! ssausglfuold" and let it ruin their day. Probably just one of those little pet peeves that they notice for a second and forget about it.
I do the same with people who bite their nails in public. Annoys me to no end, and i forget about it after a second. But should i just "not judge them since they are real people and do what they want?
Just a convo. Nothing against overweight/obese people.
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I find it funny that the majority of this thread seems to be a convo between a few "less than morbidly obese" people trying to judge whether or not people they consider "morbidly obese" call themselves curvy.
Mean girls much? Ummmya......
What are you trying to say?
I'm trying to say that many of the posts in this thread became downright rude/snarky...and i'm actually not referring to your OP (at least not mostly), even though i can see why using the word "grossly" was upsetting. When people start talking about the 600lb people on tv and "stomping their feet" that "rolls are not curvy" and state that they are annoyed/irritated at people who call themselves curvy but don't fit some invented definition of it, they are acting like "mean girls"....and frankly, i assume most understand exactly what i mean.
In truth, i have a definition for curvy in my own head and i think the "common use" does most often refer to someone with an hourglass type shape. However, for people to jump on the "it's annoying" bandwagon because someone is using the term for a shape that doesn't agree with their personal definition of it, is MEAN. And i don't care if it is meant from the perspective of "don't call yourself curvy when you're just fat" or "don't call yourself curvy because you are too thin" or whatever....being annoyed is where i have the problem. Critical and judgy, and if you read some of the posts in this thread independently (from a variety of people), i'm sure you will see how those posts are interpreted that way.
We all have our own opinions...this thread, for some reason, got particularly snarky in areas (and i'll own my mean girls comment as well). I don't know you (or anyone in this thread for that matter) and was interested in the original post and responses. I'm a pretty open minded person so was not looking to criticize or anything, but was literally shocked at some of the responses in these pages.
That is fair enough. This is a forum, and forums aren't the best for tact. I would probably come across calmer and more tactful in real life.
But seriously? I think people are over-complicating things. It's simple. Curvy has pretty much always referred to a waist that is small and goes in like; ---> ) (
and hips that go out like ( )
It may be semantics to some people, but it really irritates me. I am big on curves, love them, and it's annoying. OWN your body type. If you're ruler, just freakin' accept it and dress for it. I wouldn't mind being an hourglass, but I'm not, I'm pear. I OWN my body type. If I didn't have a waist or hips, I wouldn't call myself curvy, because I wouldn't be.
It's not a dig. It's not body shaming. It's not putting women down. It's not thinking obese people are gross.
It is simply me wanting a spade to be called a spade, and not a freakin' fork.
Understood. Funny thing...I just looked at your profile, and while i kinda see why you are calling yourself a pear, you fit my personal defintion of curvy LOL!0 -
Yep, and I get just as irritated when a skinny girl thinks she has curves too.... your *kitten* is as flat as a wall, you look like a walking Popsicle stick...take a seat.0
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This post has just highlighted that a whole lot of people on this forum are idiots/kinda racist (and I am referring to the 'when I get a tan I call myself Latin' logic lady in this)/body shamers and really, really misogynistic.
That'll be me giving the forums a wide berth for a good while.
Racist?!?!!?!?!?!? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Misogynistic? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Misogynistic means 'hatred of women'. Where is this hatred of women you speak of? I hate women because I get annoyed by curve-less women claiming to be curvy?
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Yep, and I get just as irritated when a skinny girl thinks she has curves too.... your *kitten* is as flat as a wall, you look like a walking Popsicle stick...take a seat.
But the thing is, a skinny woman can still be curvy. It's bone structure. While I like curvy girls who are slim with a teeny bit of meat on them IE - healthy looking, any size of woman can be curvy. It really is about bone structure.
But I see your point. A lot of skinny women are just skinny with no real shape to them. Etomorphs, I think they're called.0 -
I find it funny that the majority of this thread seems to be a convo between a few "less than morbidly obese" people trying to judge whether or not people they consider "morbidly obese" call themselves curvy.
Mean girls much? Ummmya......
What are you trying to say?
I'm trying to say that many of the posts in this thread became downright rude/snarky...and i'm actually not referring to your OP (at least not mostly), even though i can see why using the word "grossly" was upsetting. When people start talking about the 600lb people on tv and "stomping their feet" that "rolls are not curvy" and state that they are annoyed/irritated at people who call themselves curvy but don't fit some invented definition of it, they are acting like "mean girls"....and frankly, i assume most understand exactly what i mean.
In truth, i have a definition for curvy in my own head and i think the "common use" does most often refer to someone with an hourglass type shape. However, for people to jump on the "it's annoying" bandwagon because someone is using the term for a shape that doesn't agree with their personal definition of it, is MEAN. And i don't care if it is meant from the perspective of "don't call yourself curvy when you're just fat" or "don't call yourself curvy because you are too thin" or whatever....being annoyed is where i have the problem. Critical and judgy, and if you read some of the posts in this thread independently (from a variety of people), i'm sure you will see how those posts are interpreted that way.
We all have our own opinions...this thread, for some reason, got particularly snarky in areas (and i'll own my mean girls comment as well). I don't know you (or anyone in this thread for that matter) and was interested in the original post and responses. I'm a pretty open minded person so was not looking to criticize or anything, but was literally shocked at some of the responses in these pages.
That is fair enough. This is a forum, and forums aren't the best for tact. I would probably come across calmer and more tactful in real life.
But seriously? I think people are over-complicating things. It's simple. Curvy has pretty much always referred to a waist that is small and goes in like; ---> ) (
and hips that go out like ( )
It may be semantics to some people, but it really irritates me. I am big on curves, love them, and it's annoying. OWN your body type. If you're ruler, just freakin' accept it and dress for it. I wouldn't mind being an hourglass, but I'm not, I'm pear. I OWN my body type. If I didn't have a waist or hips, I wouldn't call myself curvy, because I wouldn't be.
It's not a dig. It's not body shaming. It's not putting women down. It's not thinking obese people are gross.
It is simply me wanting a spade to be called a spade, and not a freakin' fork.
Understood. Funny thing...I just looked at your profile, and while i kinda see why you are calling yourself a pear, you fit my personal defintion of curvy LOL!
Aww, thanks
by measurements, I am a pear but I think I'm pretty well proportioned. I thought I was an hourglass because my boobs aren't tiny, but I was wrong. I'm pear 0 -
This post has just highlighted that a whole lot of people on this forum are idiots/kinda racist (and I am referring to the 'when I get a tan I call myself Latin' logic lady in this)/body shamers and really, really misogynistic.
That'll be me giving the forums a wide berth for a good while.
Racist?! Are you kidding me?
Body shamers yes I do see, but LOL
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... If a women has rolls or if she has no hips at all, she's allowed identify with being curvy. There are no rules and it's stupid to let that offend you...
Certainly, all women are allowed to identify with whatever body type they wish. However, if they are not being honest with themselves, then their distorted self-image will likely have psychological consequences (such as insecurity or unhappiness). Furthermore, if "curvy," being a more acceptable and politically-correct term, is commonly used in our society in place of "overweight" and "obese," then the overweight/obese could potentially use this label as an excuse to avoid losing weight and improving their health, and therefore they would continue to contribute to the rise in obesity-related preventable diseases and would put further strain on the health care system.
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PRECISELY. I think about how large people claim that they're 'curvy' and I'm just like...........no. 'Curvy' as in ( . ) sure, but not 'curvy' in a good, concave way like ) . ( . Marilyn Monroe is curvy...you are a potato.0
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Back to actual discussion...
I have a question then. Are only hour glass shapes considered curvy then? Or pears too?
I'm a bit curious if I fit this "curvy" definition. A little clueless on the topic.
I usually classify most as athletic, average, overweight, obese since that is all i talk about in nutrition courses xD Mixing in shapes confuses me. I just learned that there is such a thing as a banana shape the other day!
My personal definition;
Hourglass and pear are the curvy ones. However, I see some people with the hourglass/pear measurements, but they don't look curvy to me.
To me, it's just visual and very easy to see. I don't see how someone can look at someone with a thick waist and not much bigger hips and call her curvy. Or look at someone who has a flat, toned stomach with a tiny waist that goes in, hips that are rounded and flare out and call her fat.
It's just so easy to me. One looks like this;
And one looks like this;
Everybody is shaped differently, but if you have a significantly (and not just in measurements, but in appearence) smaller waist and bigger thighs/hips, then you are curvy. It comes in many forms, but it's obvious when it's there.
The definition of curvy has been distorted and complicted so much that it's become almost meaningless. Out of all the times I have seen people be described, or describe themselves, as curvy, only a few times have I been able to agree with them.0 -
Don't kid yourself; Hendricks is fat. Look at her when she's in a bikini not when she's all buttoned up in spanx and a dress. If she'd be 20-25 lbs lighter, she'd still be curvy, and healthier.
Christina Hendricks is the epitomy of curvy
O.o
I've seen her in a swimsuit...she's curvy. And the point of the OP is that, even with extra weight, a woman can be "curvy". It's more to do with how a body is structured and where a woman carries her wait than how "fat" she may or may not be.
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PRECISELY. I think about how large people claim that they're 'curvy' and I'm just like...........no. 'Curvy' as in ( . ) sure, but not 'curvy' in a good, concave way like ) . ( . Marilyn Monroe is curvy...you are a potato.
LOL @ a potato...0 -
I definitely agree with you!0
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Awesome!! Another chance for fat bashing!!
... Because there's not enough chances for people to do that in this world!
(that is sarcasm btw)
Awesome! Another person who hasn't read it properly and think it has something to do with fat bashing when it's not.
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Don't kid yourself; Hendricks is fat. Look at her when she's in a bikini not when she's all buttoned up in spanx and a dress. If she'd be 20-25 lbs lighter, she'd still be curvy, and healthier.
Christina Hendricks is the epitomy of curvy
O.o
I've seen her in a swimsuit...she's curvy. And the point of the OP is that, even with extra weight, a woman can be "curvy". It's more to do with how a body is structured and where a woman carries her wait than how "fat" she may or may not be.
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I just realized I said "carries her wait" :grumble: This is what I get for trying to play on the forums while I've got a crapload of schoolwork sitting in front of me.
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Is this lady curvy?
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I am 370 pounds and quite curvy. I have curves where curves shouldn't be...my curves have other curves growing on them. My rolls do not make me curvy. They just make me... rolly? Fat? Yes, they make me fat. :P I have no problem with saying "I AM FAT" because it's true. The only time I've ever been offended by being called "fat" is when I wasn't doing anything to change it. :flowerforyou:0
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Curvy waist to hip ratio - 0.7 and below.
Simple.
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Is this lady curvy?
Technically :laugh:0 -
uh oh BONER alert :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :sick:Is this lady curvy?0 -
Is this lady curvy?
:sick: I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.0 -
Curvy waist to hip ratio - 7.0
Simple.
Do you mean 0.70 or 7.0? Just to clarify because I ran my numbers and got a .8
So I'm either really.. REALLY off, or super awesome. lol0 -
Is this lady curvy?
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Curvy waist to hip ratio - 7.0
Simple.
Do you mean 0.70 or 7.0? Just to clarify because I ran my numbers and got a .8
So I'm either really.. REALLY off, or super awesome. lol
She definitely meant .70 lol 7.0 would be like 250'' waist and 35'' hips! :laugh:0 -
How about this?
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How about this?
mmmmm...smexy0 -
Curvy waist to hip ratio - 7.0
Simple.
Do you mean 0.70 or 7.0? Just to clarify because I ran my numbers and got a .8
So I'm either really.. REALLY off, or super awesome. lol
She definitely meant .70 lol 7.0 would be like 250'' waist and 35'' hips! :laugh:
:blushing: can you tell I got a D in Maths?
Yes, I meant 0.7 :laugh:0 -
Curvy waist to hip ratio - 7.0
Simple.
Do you mean 0.70 or 7.0? Just to clarify because I ran my numbers and got a .8
So I'm either really.. REALLY off, or super awesome. lol
.7 and lower is the curvy range, I believe.0 -
How about this?
Yummy! Some hot curves on her!0
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