Carbs are making you fat

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  • dolldreams
    dolldreams Posts: 245 Member
    Marilyn Monroe credits her beautiful figure to pasta (AKA, carbs)

    marilyn-monroe-heels.jpg

    She so fat...

    Umm, I don't know if you picked the best possible picture to illustrate your point...

    Thought about it but couldnt be bothered with finding a photoshopped pic of her. She still looks drop dead gorgeous and very fit

    I'll take those legs of hers any day. I think she looks cute and classically feminine in this photo and genuinely happy too.
  • SergeantSunshine_reused
    SergeantSunshine_reused Posts: 5,382 Member
    Wow! Nice discussing things with you all. Take care.

    And you discussed what?
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    Marilyn Monroe credits her beautiful figure to pasta (AKA, carbs)

    marilyn-monroe-heels.jpg

    She so fat...

    Umm, I don't know if you picked the best possible picture to illustrate your point...

    For real. And even at her thinnest she was not terribly firm.
  • glennstoudt
    glennstoudt Posts: 403 Member
    Sadly, I dont think the truth will ever be allowed out. Too many big industries (i.e. flour, sugar, pharmaceutical, supermarkets) are making too much money from the present "so called" healthy eating regime. No one can touch it. Whatever you believe, you should ask the question, why is obesity, heart disease and diabetes on the increase in such a huge scale?

    Answer: There is so much money to be made from fixing the problem with pills, etc.
  • suziecue66
    suziecue66 Posts: 1,312 Member
    its old news. Taubes has a new book out. I have Good Calories, Bad Calories it was okay for its time. A lot of low carbers have moved on since that.

    Not arguing at all here -- what do you mean by "moved on?" Do you mean that they've gone on to other approaches completely (back to "high" carbs by a LC standard) or on to Paleo or something?

    Also, what the hell happened to Jimmy Moore?!??! I clearly have not kept up with the old-school LC blogosphere.

    They don't see Taubes as god and Good Calories, Bad Calories as the Bible any more. They upped their carbs, particularly starchy carbs and fruit. So yeh more paleo or primal. Taking note of calories again, not ramming copious amounts of fat down their necks..
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    Marilyn Monroe credits her beautiful figure to pasta (AKA, carbs)

    marilyn-monroe-heels.jpg

    She so fat...

    Umm, I don't know if you picked the best possible picture to illustrate your point...

    Thought about it but couldnt be bothered with finding a photoshopped pic of her. She still looks drop dead gorgeous and very fit

    I agree...here's one for you:

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  • Whoa! There is a difference between a good carb and a bad carb
    Vegetables such as broc have a lot of carbs and should be in your diet plan where as bread (including that whole wheat bread that you may think is good for you) is a bad carb.
    Lets face it bread and grain are on the food pyramid because we pay farmers millions of dollars each year to keep producing. Its easy to produce grain rather than vegetables therefore America has to promote it.
    Since we are on the topic of bad carbs I want to just throw out there that the nutrigran bar that you think is doing you well, think again. Horrible Horrible for you. If its in a bar form keep it away from your mouth.
    I had my son 7 months ago and up until last Feb decided to take the rest of my baby weight off. Went from 160 down to 145 in 3 months! 5 pounds shy of my prebaby weight with a goal of 125. When you read about nutrition make sure that Author has sources its pulling from for backup otherwise you might just be hurting yourself.
  • jnhu72
    jnhu72 Posts: 558 Member
    I know this has been said, but I agree that processed carbs are making people fat. What I don't like about low carb is that it says fruits and veggies are bad. I follow a diet that does not include grains, dairy or sugar but still eat about 200 carbs a day in fruit and veggies and have no problem losing weight.
  • haha makes me giggle
  • texasheathers
    texasheathers Posts: 23 Member
    This is such a silly argument. It's not just carbs or just calories. What's right for some people isn't right for someone else. A diabetic has to watch their sugars/carb intake - so in their case, a lower carb diet is best. Does that mean they can consume calories in excess - of course not. I personally watch my intake of both calories and carbs.

    At least it seems like most everyone agress that processed foods are bad.
  • Jacwhite22
    Jacwhite22 Posts: 7,010 Member
    Whoa! There is a difference between a good carb and a bad carb

    orlly?
  • suziecue66
    suziecue66 Posts: 1,312 Member
    Whoa! There is a difference between a good carb and a bad carb
    Vegetables such as broc have a lot of carbs and should be in your diet plan where as bread (including that whole wheat bread that you may think is good for you) is a bad carb.
    Lets face it bread and grain are on the food pyramid because we pay farmers millions of dollars each year to keep producing. Its easy to produce grain rather than vegetables therefore America has to promote it.
    Since we are on the topic of bad carbs I want to just throw out there that the nutrigran bar that you think is doing you well, think again. Horrible Horrible for you. If its in a bar form keep it away from your mouth.
    I had my son 7 months ago and up until last Feb decided to take the rest of my baby weight off. Went from 160 down to 145 in 3 months! 5 pounds shy of my prebaby weight with a goal of 125. When you read about nutrition make sure that Author has sources its pulling from for backup otherwise you might just be hurting yourself.

    Just to clarify, brocolli doesn't have a lot of carb (and other fibrous carbs) hence why its part of a low carb diet.
  • dolldreams
    dolldreams Posts: 245 Member
    Whoa! There is a difference between a good carb and a bad carb
    Vegetables such as broc have a lot of carbs and should be in your diet plan where as bread (including that whole wheat bread that you may think is good for you) is a bad carb.
    Lets face it bread and grain are on the food pyramid because we pay farmers millions of dollars each year to keep producing. Its easy to produce grain rather than vegetables therefore America has to promote it.
    Since we are on the topic of bad carbs I want to just throw out there that the nutrigran bar that you think is doing you well, think again. Horrible Horrible for you. If its in a bar form keep it away from your mouth.
    I had my son 7 months ago and up until last Feb decided to take the rest of my baby weight off. Went from 160 down to 145 in 3 months! 5 pounds shy of my prebaby weight with a goal of 125. When you read about nutrition make sure that Author has sources its pulling from for backup otherwise you might just be hurting yourself.

    Bread is not bad. People have been eating bread for thousands of years.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    At least it seems like most everyone agress that processed foods are bad.

    Then most everyone is an idiot
  • HMonsterX
    HMonsterX Posts: 3,000 Member
    I know this has been said, but I agree that processed carbs are making people fat. What I don't like about low carb is that it says fruits and veggies are bad. I follow a diet that does not include grains, dairy or sugar but still eat about 200 carbs a day in fruit and veggies and have no problem losing weight.

    No, calorie surplus makes people fat. Doesn't matter where they come from. I lost mine eating around 200-250 carbs a day, and never felt better. It's just another way to overcomplicate this simple process.
  • SergeantSunshine_reused
    SergeantSunshine_reused Posts: 5,382 Member
    *sigh* so now its not carbs, but grains are the bad guy?
  • hhowey
    hhowey Posts: 4 Member
    I think there are a lot of misconceptions on both sides of this argument. Carbs do make you fat, if you want an explination of how, watch the movie "Fat Head" it does a pretty good job of making it simple to understand. If you read the Atkins book it does NOT say to never eat carbs, and it does have you add carbs back into your diet as you go, first berries and nuts, then breads and even starches. Yes, there are a lot of people out there who have tried it and failed, but there are others for whom it works. In the book it does say to do easy to moderate exercise, however, when working out at a more extreme intensity it is important to have bread-carbs as well as veggies and fruits to not "bonk".
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
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  • rextcat
    rextcat Posts: 1,408 Member
    Marilyn Monroe credits her beautiful figure to pasta (AKA, carbs)

    marilyn-monroe-heels.jpg

    She so fat...

    Umm, I don't know if you picked the best possible picture to illustrate your point...

    Thought about it but couldnt be bothered with finding a photoshopped pic of her. She still looks drop dead gorgeous and very fit

    who gives a **** shes still a 10(oh and asize 10 to)
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    I think there are a lot of misconceptions on both sides of this argument. Carbs do make you fat, if you want an explination of how, watch the movie "Fat Head" it does a pretty good job of making it simple to understand. If you read the Atkins book it does NOT say to never eat carbs, and it does have you add carbs back into your diet as you go, first berries and nuts, then breads and even starches. Yes, there are a lot of people out there who have tried it and failed, but there are others for whom it works. In the book it does say to do easy to moderate exercise, however, when working out at a more extreme intensity it is important to have bread-carbs as well as veggies and fruits to not "bonk".

    Fat Head only makes people more ignorant on the subject of nutrition, the basic message was eating in a deficit regardless of what it is causes weight loss, everything else in the movie is a bunch of nonsense. Atkins also believed int he metabolic advantage to low carb diets which is not unlike unicorns, a fantasy
  • Scott613
    Scott613 Posts: 2,317 Member
    Wow! Nice discussing things with you all. Take care.
    I like your sunglasses:flowerforyou:
  • Skinny_Beans
    Skinny_Beans Posts: 405 Member
    Anyone who thinks carbs don't make you fat is an IDIOT. Personally, I only eat raisins and horseradish everyday, and i'm RIPPED.



    /sarcasm
  • dolldreams
    dolldreams Posts: 245 Member
    *sigh* so now its not carbs, but grains are the bad guy?

    Evidently, they have never lived with a person who is not overweight and observed the things they eat.

    When I was thin, you best believe I ate some carbs. I got fat from eating too many calories and not doing any exercise...period.
  • Cr357
    Cr357 Posts: 238
    I know this has been said, but I agree that processed carbs are making people fat. What I don't like about low carb is that it says fruits and veggies are bad. I follow a diet that does not include grains, dairy or sugar but still eat about 200 carbs a day in fruit and veggies and have no problem losing weight.
    800 cals worth of fruits and veggies a day??? That's a lot. What kind of fruit and veggies? Grapes and melons?
  • Jesse_Hunter
    Jesse_Hunter Posts: 162 Member
    A lot of people feel less hungry on low carb so you don't over-eat, create a caloric deficit and lose weight. Processed carbs may contribute to weight gain because for some they make you hungry, you over-eat, don't create a caloric deficit and gain weight.
    I've seen a lot of low carbers, particularly those that are very over-weight lose weight initially but never get to goal.


    Agreed.

    Carbs are your friend, They fuel the body. Unfortunatly, Society would have you believe otherwise. The average american diet can range anywhere between 50-65% fat, This combined with high calories, high carbs, high sugar, and a routinely sedetary lifestyle creates a dangerous combination. Excess fat creates a lining inside your body that prevents the absorption/dispersal of sugar through the blood to be quick and efficient. Instead, This lining causes the sugar to linger in the blood sugar. This as we know, Is the cause of diabetes type 2 (not sugar).

    Basically, You cannot blame being obese on one factor alone. Obesity is caused by many factors, complexities, and senarios.

    Although, your attention should begin focusing on the nearly 40% increase of daily fat above what your body requires!

    Try this out: Tomorrow, Keep track of how many calories from fat you consume, At the end of the day compare those calories to your overall daily calories to figure out the fat %. Make sure to eat the way you normally do, I think you will be suprised.

    Happy fitness everyone!
  • Hezzietiger1
    Hezzietiger1 Posts: 1,256 Member
    Marilyn Monroe credits her beautiful figure to pasta (AKA, carbs)

    marilyn-monroe-heels.jpg

    She so fat...

    Umm, I don't know if you picked the best possible picture to illustrate your point...

    Great picture.. she looks real, not photo-shopped!
  • itsjustdawn
    itsjustdawn Posts: 1,073 Member
    its old news. Taubes has a new book out. I have Good Calories, Bad Calories it was okay for its time. A lot of low carbers have moved on since that.

    Good book?
  • taunto
    taunto Posts: 6,420 Member
    At least it seems like most everyone agress that processed foods are bad.

    Then most everyone is an idiot

    ok I'm not the most diet educated person out there but are you suggesting that processed food are good for you?. To me processed food = food loaded with additional chemicals such as soda, those "nutrition bars" where the list of checmicals goes on and on, food from fast food chains like McD's and such where there are tons of added chemicals.

    I'm not trying to argue, just was wondering if this is what you meant
  • Nopedotjpeg
    Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
    >Post fear-mongering topic with fear-mongering title.
    >Get asked to explain your side.
    >Say it's a "gotcha" question, and refuse to explain it.

    Damn, you took one right from the Sarah Palin book. Well done OP.
  • glennstoudt
    glennstoudt Posts: 403 Member
    I know this has been said, but I agree that processed carbs are making people fat. What I don't like about low carb is that it says fruits and veggies are bad. I follow a diet that does not include grains, dairy or sugar but still eat about 200 carbs a day in fruit and veggies and have no problem losing weight.

    Following this as noted above.
    I keep my NET carbs under 125 per day. Works for me. Lost a bunch of weight and can lose more, build muscle at a reasonable rate for my age depending on how hard I want to work at it. Had a nice dinner out tonight, had a couple of pieces of french sourdough bread a nice treat. I suppose one of the notable highlights of the evening past the great food at Coquette is that Leonardo Dicapprio was at the next table. We're in New Orleans, there are a lot of movies done here. He's here for a movie for a time.
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