for heavens sake, I STILL EAT BREAD AND LOSE WEIGHT!

I went a whole month without having any bread, sugar, carbs, etc. I lost a lot of weight, but hit a plateau. When I finally gave in and had some bread, I found I lost two pounds when I weighed myself the next morning. I say all things in moderation! :drinker:

seen a lot of posts lately regarding "whole grain/wheat" bread/brown rice.. and such.. I am not understand why alot of people choose to cut them out COMPLETELY... I have lost weight with still eating bread, at a deficit.. eating healthy and working out...

please tell me I am not the only one? share YOUR success so we can put the "bad carbs" posts to rest!

WHAT IS THIS WITCHCRAFT?!

Nah, just kidding. I eat bread, pasta, rice and such. I just eat it at a deficit and exercise. I've lost 15lbs so far.

Which entire cultures are based on wheat and don't have an obesity problem? I'm not disagreeing , just haven't heard of them.

A lot of Eastern Europe, and particularly the Balkans. Bread (white bread) is the alpha and omega of the diet, practically a religious item (you get told of as a child if you dare play with or throw away your piece of bread) and 'fast food' is basically pastry (as I said, you go to bakeries for food on the go). Bread is eaten with absolutely every meal (I mean EVERY, including meals with potatoes and similar; some ppl even eat bread with pasta meals, I don't ) - so much that even 5 years after moving away from there I still feel like I didn't have a meal if there was no piece of bread present (and by bread I mean real, freshly baked bread, the one that lasts only couple of days, not the stuff you buy in the supermarket - bread is supposed to have crust! unless it's a flat bread, which is also yummy)
Mediterranean, with a lot of pasta and pastries would be another example.

I eat bread. And lose and gain the same 5 lbs over and over. I don't blame the bread. Bread is tasty goodness. Eat it, and be happy.

Which entire cultures are based on wheat and don't have an obesity problem? I'm not disagreeing , just haven't heard of them.

A lot of Eastern Europe, and particularly the Balkans. Bread (white bread) is the alpha and omega of the diet, practically a religious item (you get told of as a child if you dare play with or throw away your piece of bread) and 'fast food' is basically pastry (as I said, you go to bakeries for food on the go). Bread is eaten with absolutely every meal (I mean EVERY, including meals with potatoes and similar; some ppl even eat bread with pasta meals, I don't ) - so much that even 5 years after moving away from there I still feel like I didn't have a meal if there was no piece of bread present (and by bread I mean real, freshly baked bread, the one that lasts only couple of days, not the stuff you buy in the supermarket - bread is supposed to have crust! unless it's a flat bread, which is also yummy)
Mediterranean, with a lot of pasta and pastries would be another example.

Are you Serbian? I am Serbian and my whole family. My mum is the same if she doesn't have bread with a meal its not a meal.

Which entire cultures are based on wheat and don't have an obesity problem? I'm not disagreeing , just haven't heard of them.

A lot of Eastern Europe, and particularly the Balkans. Bread (white bread) is the alpha and omega of the diet, practically a religious item (you get told of as a child if you dare play with or throw away your piece of bread) and 'fast food' is basically pastry (as I said, you go to bakeries for food on the go). Bread is eaten with absolutely every meal (I mean EVERY, including meals with potatoes and similar; some ppl even eat bread with pasta meals, I don't ) - so much that even 5 years after moving away from there I still feel like I didn't have a meal if there was no piece of bread present (and by bread I mean real, freshly baked bread, the one that lasts only couple of days, not the stuff you buy in the supermarket - bread is supposed to have crust! unless it's a flat bread, which is also yummy)
Mediterranean, with a lot of pasta and pastries would be another example.

Are you Serbian? I am Serbian and my whole family. My mum is the same if she doesn't have bread with a meal its not a meal.

hahahha is it that obvious from my love of bread? :happy: (Serbian, grown up in a village - you can get the picture )

Carbs and sugar are two different things. But from what I`ve heard on here and countless books I`ve read, diets I`ve tried. The only thing that works is.....

Moderate calorie cut, and exercise and enjoying life.

My Tdee is 3000 cal per day? I eat only 2000, I never lose and indeed gain a lb a week. Make sense?

Let you know if I lose from now. Not successful eating minimal calories. At ;5'9" you can`t eat 1500 cal per day forever. No carbs is just another industry money making scheme. You do not have a disease, you just need to cut back a little, in a few months you`ll be slammin.

Which entire cultures are based on wheat and don't have an obesity problem? I'm not disagreeing , just haven't heard of them.

A lot of Eastern Europe, and particularly the Balkans. Bread (white bread) is the alpha and omega of the diet, practically a religious item (you get told of as a child if you dare play with or throw away your piece of bread) and 'fast food' is basically pastry (as I said, you go to bakeries for food on the go). Bread is eaten with absolutely every meal (I mean EVERY, including meals with potatoes and similar; some ppl even eat bread with pasta meals, I don't ) - so much that even 5 years after moving away from there I still feel like I didn't have a meal if there was no piece of bread present (and by bread I mean real, freshly baked bread, the one that lasts only couple of days, not the stuff you buy in the supermarket - bread is supposed to have crust! unless it's a flat bread, which is also yummy)
Mediterranean, with a lot of pasta and pastries would be another example.

Are you Serbian? I am Serbian and my whole family. My mum is the same if she doesn't have bread with a meal its not a meal.

hahahha is it that obvious from my love of bread? :happy:

No, you mentioned Serbia in your About Me. When someone comments I like to look at their profile to see where they are coming from. I love bread too but a bit too much!
My parents grew up in a village in Serbia. I was born in Kikinda when they moved there and later moved to Australia.

oh, you are from Vojvodina - you guys love bread stuff even more than us down south

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Must explain why I love it so much and can't stop at 1 slice and explains why I failed at low carb so many times.!

Serb on a low carb diet - that's a disaster waiting to happen lol

just to illustrate why I think that "wheat doesn't make you fat. sitting on your *kitten* makes you fat":

it is hard to find good studies of obesity in Serbia but I think this one nicely illustrates huge importance of active lifestyle:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-789X.2009.00574.x/abstract

diet wise, these kids are eating very similar food. If anything, kids in villages will eat more bread and high fat (animal fat) food. however, boys growing up in villages are way more active than those in cities.

Unfortunately, like in other western countries, obesity in Serbia seem to be on the rise, especially in the last decade. the diet is not changing, the lifestyle does.

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"oh, you are from Vojvodina - you guys love bread stuff even more than us down south "
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Must explain why I love it so much and can't stop at 1 slice and explains why I failed at low carb so many times.!

Serb on a low carb diet - that's a disaster waiting to happen lol

just to illustrate why I think that "wheat doesn't make you fat. sitting on your *kitten* makes you fat":

it is hard to find good studies of obesity in Serbia but I think this one nicely illustrates huge importance of active lifestyle:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-789X.2009.00574.x/abstract

diet wise, these kids are eating very similar food. If anything, kids in villages will eat more bread and high fat (animal fat) food. however, boys growing up in villages are way more active than those in cities.

Unfortunately, like in other western countries, obesity in Serbia seem to be on the rise, especially in the last decade. the diet is not changing, the lifestyle does.

Balkan diets are not wheat based. They include some type of bread or pasta, but the main staple is meat. They eat bread as a side or a snack, or a pastry on the go, but the main meal consists mainly of meat traditionally. And also, obesity is on the rise because now, they are including more bread like you just stated.