Looking for Feminist Friends

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I think Chris is fighting fire with fire.

If the jokes were as innocuous as Ray's comment about washing dishes...I, as a Christian, wouldn't see a problem with it <shrug>

I think Chris is fighting fire with fire.

If the jokes were as innocuous as Ray's comment about washing dishes...I, as a Christian, wouldn't see a problem with it <shrug>

I could give a rip about that stupid joke. What came later was just for the purpose of being insulting and rude for no purpose at all, except for to keep me busy when I can't sleep anyway. Either way, I am out. But don't you all quit building those straw men and grinding those axes.

I love feminists! No-one does dishes and laundry as well as a feminist!!

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So, I'm just going to mostly ignore the entire debate on the forum and say -- I identify as a "feminist" to people who are sensitive and subtle enough to appreciate the difference between being feminist and being misandrist (as most dissenters on this thread appear to be missing). I used to even be okay with the "radical feminist" label until I realized the outdated, first-wave transphobia endemic to the movement.

And yes, people, feminism has waves... and even within the waves, there is plenty of disagreement. So anyone who says "I dislike 'feminism' because it is x, y, or z" is already kind of working from a flawed assumption, because there is no single, Official Definition of Feminism.

As for the relationship between weight loss and feminism, I always find it interesting that I tend to begin weight loss projects from a place of insecurity, but so long as I am serious about the exercise side of things, any body image issues get sort of transvaluated, because the sense of athletic achievement you get from training hard is just so ****ing amazing.

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I think Chris is fighting fire with fire.

If the jokes were as innocuous as Ray's comment about washing dishes...I, as a Christian, wouldn't see a problem with it <shrug>

I could give a rip about that stupid joke. What came later was just for the purpose of being insulting and rude for no purpose at all, except for to keep me busy when I can't sleep anyway. Either way, I am out. But don't you all quit building those straw men and grinding those axes.

i've just spent a while reading through this thread from the beginning. all i can say is 'wow'.
i always thought i had a bit of a feminist streak in me, but now i'm going to deny it!
i did not, at any point in time, think that to be a feminist you had to have your humour gland removed.
there was nothing in here (IMHO) that could be deemed offensive, derogatory or insulting. why can't you be feminist and have a laugh too? or is it only ok to laugh at the stereotypical jokes about men?

i am now defining myself as an 'equal rights' person.

again, just wow.

wow.

Wow, you saw NOTHING offensive? I don't think anyone was laughing because it generally wasn't funny.

I actually recall someone saying that instead of fighting for contraception, cis women should "close their legs". You don't think that shaming one group people for having sex for pleasure isn't just a little bit insulting?

I wish I found sandwich jokes funny though, for real. I'd never stop laughing. Stop acting like we're the ones with no sense of humour, because quite frankly, you'd be thrown out of every comedy club on the planet.

I saw nothing offensive either. This is one of the things I see as a problem with feminism as a whole--a man makes a joke, perhaps one about stereotypical womanhood, and they're immediately labeled as pathetic, hateful, patriarchal, etc. A woman makes a joke about stereotypical men, and she's held up as a freedom fighter, hero, champion of the oppressed.

I guess I'm an anti-feminist then. I loved being married and all the things that came with it. When we divorced, I floundered for a bit, unsure of what was to come. But I prevailed. I kept though house we'd just bought against all odds, decided to stay her and make my way, etc. I consider myself to be a strong, reasonably confident woman.

I'm black, and I'm a feminist. Womanism is there, but like you've presented, most of it's founders are just.. really angry. I find it counterproductive. Don't get me wrong, I love being in the minority rights kitchen(kitchen!?! hah) but our problem is MUCH more internal at this point in the US. Self hate abound, and no one has been actively feeding that fire. WE keep it alive. And so very few of us even care about the issues, so involved with distractions of our own making. Yes, black men have different problems than black women who have different problems than white women.. but I don't find it productive to separate from both groups out of spite, which to me (correct me if I'm wrong) seems the core of womanism.

I think this is kind of the core of my issue with "feminism" or any other kind of "ism", really. It seeks to separate people into groups and grant them "rights" based on belonging to said group. How about, "everyone is human so let's just treat them all the same"ism?

This is a movement I can get behind!

Another convert!! Woohoo!!!

Another point that was raised is the anger issue. I just...don't have the energy to be that angry all the time :laugh:

I can be dedicated to a cause without being angry. So my cause is now "everyone is human so let's just treat them right and not spend all day being angry about it"ism!

Do you think the "anti" people who came to this thread were angry when they either started going off on the posters or if they just simply started making fun of them and telling them that there was no reason for them to feel the way they do? Some people came to this thread to find like minded people where others just came to either be rude or make fun of them.

To be perfectly honest, no they didn't seem angry at all. It seemed like people having some harmless fun. Iz wut we do here :laugh:

Those comments were, however, met with a completely disproportionate anger, IMO.

You think Cris is having harmless fun? You have a strange idea of what fun is.

And while some people just simply made jokes, can you imagine if they made jokes against a Christian looking for other Christians to be friends with. Would that be okay? No it wouldn't. Or tried to, for no reason other than just because they felt threatened tell them how stupid their beliefs are.

Some of you are only here to give people a hard time.

I'm curious...of the women who consider themselves "feminists", what is it that makes you so? What's your definition of feminism?

I love feminists! No-one does dishes and laundry as well as a feminist!!

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