Fat Acceptance
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I must have missed the part about Fat Acceptance where you were asked to enable people to be fat. Is there a clause that requires you to buy a fat person a cheeseburger? How is fat acceptance enabling?
So then by your standards everyone who partakes in risky behaviors should be persecuted?! Should people who ride motorcycles not be accepted? They know that is a risky behavior and a wreck (I am a nurse and have seen it happen) could lead to a life time of care on tax payer dollars. Should we not accept them because their life style is risky?
I wont get into my political beliefs but, there is a large population of people who are not obese that have diabetes, there is a large population of overweight people with insurance, and there is a large population of people with expensive health conditions that are not obese that we end up paying for.....
WHY DOES ANYONE CARE IF SOMEONE IS FAT? IT'S NOT HURTING ANYONE BUT THE PERSON THAT CHOOSES TO BE
No matter what the FA people say, most obese people are not healthy, certainly not long term, and there are many obesity-associated medical conditions that are expensive to treat, for example, Tyoe 2 Diabetes, that insurance alone (if you have insurance) will never completely cover. We all end up paying. Most obesity is preventable.
People's genes have not changed in the 30, 40 years. Their habits of consumption and levels of activity have. I'm not saying i't's all their fault; there are many conditions that come into play, for example, the lowered cost of food that has led to overeating. Still, the individual has to play his or her role and "acceptance" is not the answer.
--It is true that not everyone who has Type II Diabetes is overweight, but most are. They don't call it "Diabesity Syndrome" for nothing.
--Even people with insurance are subsidized by the state. Hospitals, medical treatments, insurance does not pay for everything.
--Everyone who ages gets ill, but it does make a moral difference if you are ill from a preventable condition about which you were fully informed for decades. Some people think that people should be able to do what they want, but if they make bad choices they should be required to pay for them. If people don't get control of themselves, that one day may be our system.
There is a giant leap from PERSECUTED to ACCEPTED and ENABLED.
I haven't read one post that encourages persecuting fat people or being rude in ANY way.
Edit to say: One of the reasons I am losing weight (I weigh 230) is because I don't want my kids to think being fat is normal or ok. I want them to grow up thinking a healthy, active lifestyle is how it's supposed to be.0 -
And motorcycle insurance rarely covers long term health care costs.
So then by your standards everyone who partakes in risky behaviors should be persecuted?! Should people who ride motorcycles not be accepted? They know that is a risky behavior and a wreck (I am a nurse and have seen it happen) could lead to a life time of care on tax payer dollars. Should we not accept them because their life style is risky?
I wont get into my political beliefs but, there is a large population of people who are not obese that have diabetes, there is a large population of overweight people with insurance, and there is a large population of people with expensive health conditions that are not obese that we end up paying for.....
WHY DOES ANYONE CARE IF SOMEONE IS FAT? IT'S NOT HURTING ANYONE BUT THE PERSON THAT CHOOSES TO BE
No matter what the FA people say, most obese people are not healthy, certainly not long term, and there are many obesity-associated medical conditions that are expensive to treat, for example, Tyoe 2 Diabetes, that insurance alone (if you have insurance) will never completely cover. We all end up paying. Most obesity is preventable.
People's genes have not changed in the 30, 40 years. Their habits of consumption and levels of activity have. I'm not saying i't's all their fault; there are many conditions that come into play, for example, the lowered cost of food that has led to overeating. Still, the individual has to play his or her role and "acceptance" is not the answer.
--It is true that not everyone who has Type II Diabetes is overweight, but most are. They don't call it "Diabesity Syndrome" for nothing.
--Even people with insurance are subsidized by the state. Hospitals, medical treatments, insurance does not pay for everything.
--Everyone who ages gets ill, but it does make a moral difference if you are ill from a preventable condition about which you were fully informed for decades. Some people think that people should be able to do what they want, but if they make bad choices they should be required to pay for them. If people don't get control of themselves, that one day may be our system.
You are required to have motorcycle insurance...your not required to have obesity insurance.0 -
And motorcycle insurance rarely covers long term health care costs.
So then by your standards everyone who partakes in risky behaviors should be persecuted?! Should people who ride motorcycles not be accepted? They know that is a risky behavior and a wreck (I am a nurse and have seen it happen) could lead to a life time of care on tax payer dollars. Should we not accept them because their life style is risky?
I wont get into my political beliefs but, there is a large population of people who are not obese that have diabetes, there is a large population of overweight people with insurance, and there is a large population of people with expensive health conditions that are not obese that we end up paying for.....
WHY DOES ANYONE CARE IF SOMEONE IS FAT? IT'S NOT HURTING ANYONE BUT THE PERSON THAT CHOOSES TO BE
No matter what the FA people say, most obese people are not healthy, certainly not long term, and there are many obesity-associated medical conditions that are expensive to treat, for example, Tyoe 2 Diabetes, that insurance alone (if you have insurance) will never completely cover. We all end up paying. Most obesity is preventable.
People's genes have not changed in the 30, 40 years. Their habits of consumption and levels of activity have. I'm not saying i't's all their fault; there are many conditions that come into play, for example, the lowered cost of food that has led to overeating. Still, the individual has to play his or her role and "acceptance" is not the answer.
--It is true that not everyone who has Type II Diabetes is overweight, but most are. They don't call it "Diabesity Syndrome" for nothing.
--Even people with insurance are subsidized by the state. Hospitals, medical treatments, insurance does not pay for everything.
--Everyone who ages gets ill, but it does make a moral difference if you are ill from a preventable condition about which you were fully informed for decades. Some people think that people should be able to do what they want, but if they make bad choices they should be required to pay for them. If people don't get control of themselves, that one day may be our system.
You are required to have motorcycle insurance...your not required to have obesity insurance.
It does for me? *shrug*0 -
I must have missed the part about Fat Acceptance where you were asked to enable people to be fat. Is there a clause that requires you to buy a fat person a cheeseburger? How is fat acceptance enabling?
So then by your standards everyone who partakes in risky behaviors should be persecuted?! Should people who ride motorcycles not be accepted? They know that is a risky behavior and a wreck (I am a nurse and have seen it happen) could lead to a life time of care on tax payer dollars. Should we not accept them because their life style is risky?
I wont get into my political beliefs but, there is a large population of people who are not obese that have diabetes, there is a large population of overweight people with insurance, and there is a large population of people with expensive health conditions that are not obese that we end up paying for.....
WHY DOES ANYONE CARE IF SOMEONE IS FAT? IT'S NOT HURTING ANYONE BUT THE PERSON THAT CHOOSES TO BE
No matter what the FA people say, most obese people are not healthy, certainly not long term, and there are many obesity-associated medical conditions that are expensive to treat, for example, Tyoe 2 Diabetes, that insurance alone (if you have insurance) will never completely cover. We all end up paying. Most obesity is preventable.
People's genes have not changed in the 30, 40 years. Their habits of consumption and levels of activity have. I'm not saying i't's all their fault; there are many conditions that come into play, for example, the lowered cost of food that has led to overeating. Still, the individual has to play his or her role and "acceptance" is not the answer.
--It is true that not everyone who has Type II Diabetes is overweight, but most are. They don't call it "Diabesity Syndrome" for nothing.
--Even people with insurance are subsidized by the state. Hospitals, medical treatments, insurance does not pay for everything.
--Everyone who ages gets ill, but it does make a moral difference if you are ill from a preventable condition about which you were fully informed for decades. Some people think that people should be able to do what they want, but if they make bad choices they should be required to pay for them. If people don't get control of themselves, that one day may be our system.
There is a giant leap from PERSECUTED to ACCEPTED and ENABLED.
I haven't read one post that encourages persecuting fat people or being rude in ANY way.
Edit to say: One of the reasons I am losing weight (I weigh 230) is because I don't want my kids to think being fat is normal or ok. I want them to grow up thinking a healthy, active lifestyle is how it's supposed to be.
Larger seats everywhere? Demanding that a business be able to accomodate someone who weights 300+ pounds or that insurers must offer them insurance? Wanting to become a protected class? That is enabling.0 -
i know many very obese women and i look at them for who they are, not what they appear to be. if more people just minded their own business, then we could have a world worth living a long life in.0
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easy for you to say since you don't have to take care of patients like this day in and day out.i know many very obese women and i look at them for who they are, not what they appear to be. if more people just minded their own business, then we could have a world worth living a long life in.0
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easy for you to say since you don't have to take care of patients like this day in and day out.i know many very obese women and i look at them for who they are, not what they appear to be. if more people just minded their own business, then we could have a world worth living a long life in.
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easy for you to say since you don't have to take care of patients like this day in and day out.i know many very obese women and i look at them for who they are, not what they appear to be. if more people just minded their own business, then we could have a world worth living a long life in.
and with that attitude, i'm glad i keep my health my own business. thanks for "serving".0 -
easy for you to say since you don't have to take care of patients like this day in and day out.i know many very obese women and i look at them for who they are, not what they appear to be. if more people just minded their own business, then we could have a world worth living a long life in.
and with that attitude, i'm glad i keep my health my own business. thanks for "serving".
*Bites tongue*
... You're WELCOME!
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here's a stretch on health care... I'm wondering if you've noticed the increase in car accidents recently and if there are any studies/statistics out there? It seems I'm seeing 3-4 wrecks per week... people are probably using more health care because of it..I'm guessing a lot of that is distracted drivers with phones and devices.....so I wonder how choosing to fiddle with gadgets while driving affects health care costs? like I said, it's a stretch...lol.. god you're ignorant.. no she isn't joking.. let's just factor in two heath care problems that individuals have the most control over... type II diabetes mellitus and sexually transmitted infections.
The cost has risen since then (2007), but, overall, diabetes costs the heath care system in the US over $215 BILLION annually, the vast majority of which is attributed to type II.
STIs costs the system $17 BILLION last year.
Each year, both keep increasing... these are just two prime examples of how the individual influences heath care costs. Cancers, auto-immune disorders and the likeness of which patients have no control is one thing.. but what you put in your mouth, who you have sex with, and how often you get off your @$$ is up to you.
(http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-statistics/)
(http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats10/trends.htm)
We need to do this in the U.S. We wouldn't need "Obama Care" if we took care of ourselves.
OMG are you joking? We need "Obama Care" because our health care industry is corrupt and dysfunctional. It has nothing to do with people taking care of themselves.0 -
So then by your standards everyone who partakes in risky behaviors should be persecuted?! Should people who ride motorcycles not be accepted? They know that is a risky behavior and a wreck (I am a nurse and have seen it happen) could lead to a life time of care on tax payer dollars. Should we not accept them because their life style is risky?
I wont get into my political beliefs but, there is a large population of people who are not obese that have diabetes, there is a large population of overweight people with insurance, and there is a large population of people with expensive health conditions that are not obese that we end up paying for.....
WHY DOES ANYONE CARE IF SOMEONE IS FAT? IT'S NOT HURTING ANYONE BUT THE PERSON THAT CHOOSES TO BE
No matter what the FA people say, most obese people are not healthy, certainly not long term, and there are many obesity-associated medical conditions that are expensive to treat, for example, Tyoe 2 Diabetes, that insurance alone (if you have insurance) will never completely cover. We all end up paying. Most obesity is preventable.
People's genes have not changed in the 30, 40 years. Their habits of consumption and levels of activity have. I'm not saying i't's all their fault; there are many conditions that come into play, for example, the lowered cost of food that has led to overeating. Still, the individual has to play his or her role and "acceptance" is not the answer.
--It is true that not everyone who has Type II Diabetes is overweight, but most are. They don't call it "Diabesity Syndrome" for nothing.
--Even people with insurance are subsidized by the state. Hospitals, medical treatments, insurance does not pay for everything.
--Everyone who ages gets ill, but it does make a moral difference if you are ill from a preventable condition about which you were fully informed for decades. Some people think that people should be able to do what they want, but if they make bad choices they should be required to pay for them. If people don't get control of themselves, that one day may be our system.
First of all, I want to be clear that the idea of holding obese people directly responsible for their behavior is not my position, I have no current opinion, but it is a view I see often. Yesterday, I was reading a discussion about New York Mayor Bloomberg's proposal to restrict the sale of super-sized sugary drinks in certain locations. Naturally, there were the expected protests. A few people said, Fine, let people do what they want, but if they are obese and have obesity-related problems that place a burden on the healthcare system they should have to pay a surcharge for their medical care.
Only a deluded person thinks that, especially given the state of our country's economy, people can be allowed to willfully make themselves sick without consequences, while creating billions of dollars in unnecessary costs for us all. The writing's on the wall.
As other people have pointed out, if you ride a motorcycle you have to pay insurance, it may not cover all your costs, but you can't legally ride without it. You also pay a high premium because you are considered a high risk.
Back to Type II Diabetes for a minute. It runs in my family, and everyone who has it is obese and one of my siblings who is pre-Diabetic is overweight. I asked the doctor if I could avoid it by keeping my weight down. He said that they didn't know for sure but being a normal weight would never be a negative. Even though it's unclear if I'll escape it, I'm sure doing everything I can. Diabetes is a disgusting, onerous, scary disease. It's also expensive to the individual and to other taxpayers.
That alone is a reason to be anti-Fat Acceptance. I am, however, Fat Tolerant.0 -
I don't really have a firm stance on the whole FA movement as I can really see both sides of the argument. I am not talking about accepting people for who they are, I am taking about the OP article and how society should change to accept and accommodate people of size. If course we should treat everyone with kindness and acceptance, we are all human beings. I was quite big for most of my life and I experienced the bias first hand. It hurt me in ways that scar deep and that will never heal. That being said, I am not sure that this FA movement is the best way to go about things.
I did want to add that I am already seeing changes and accommodations. I was in the ER just the other day waiting for an appointment and I noticed that for every 20 or so standard chairs, there was one large reinforced chair. In the whole room there were probably 8 or ten large chairs. I also noticed on the public bus just recently, that they have placed a sticker above the first long row of seats. The seats are labeled as "courtesy seating" and under the wording there is a silhouette of a wheelchair, pregnant woman, and an obese person. I am in Canada if that makes a difference. I have a feeling that this is just the beginning. It is so hard because even if we don't agree with the changes, what can we do really? Obese people will still exist and they will still deserve to be treated with dignity and not be denied the privileges that others have. For this reason, changes will have to be made. It is kind of a tough situation.0 -
For me, it's like smoking acceptance. I have been fat about half of my life, and i firmly believe that being fat is a CHOICE, just like walking around with the health consequences of smoking cigarettes is a choice. I was never forced to eat any of the pizzas or cheeseburgers that i ate to get me fat.
THIS is how I feel about it. And I am also fat right now. It's all about choice. You can choose what you eat, how much you eat, how often you eat. You can choose to exercise or not.0 -
I dont think as a nation we should accept fat acceptance honestly because I believe it is just something to bring more money to corporate america....if we say its okay to be obese and unhealthy there will be more fast food places, more people paying doctor bills and in turn paying for meds where if we all were healthy that would cut it out a lot of unnecessary illness.
Needless to say I do think that some overweight people are still healthy it just has to do with their body composition. Not everyone is made to be a size 2 but they are still healthy... Its about health not about size
Because only fat people go to fast food restaurants. :huh:
no not only fat people go but if we feed in to saying being unhealthy is okay (which skinny people can be unhealthy too) we will start seeing fast food and more unhealthy things than we already do! shouldnt we encourage people no matter what size to just be HEALTHY...i think fat acceptance should be called something else because name is sending wrong message0 -
Too many people are getting caught up in the fact that it says FAT....like read what they want to do... make society bigger per say to accommodate the obesity epidemic (yes it is an epidemic because about 70% of the people can control it) instead of going in the opposite direction of making healthy affordable because they would lose too much money..where as they make chairs bigger and charge us extra....orrrrrrr we just pay them all in health insurance and medical bills0
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Because only fat people go to fast food restaurants. :huh:
[/quoteno not only fat people go but if we feed in to saying being unhealthy is okay (which skinny people can be unhealthy too) we will start seeing fast food and more unhealthy things than we already do! shouldnt we encourage people no matter what size to just be HEALTHY...i think fat acceptance should be called something else because name is sending wrong message
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since this thread has veered off a bit can I go a little more political and ask what y'all think of Michele Obama's better eating campaign... planting a garden that people are eating from at the white house, the kids initiatives to get them more active: Let's Move...doing pushups on national television? Curious here..0 -
I don't really have a firm stance on the whole FA movement as I can really see both sides of the argument.
There have been times when I've thought, maybe this is just the way human beings are changing. But it's NOT EVOLUTION, it's BAD LIFESTYLE CHOICES of the last 30 years and it's still primarily American, although some Western countries are catching up. Tolerance is fine; acceptance implies normality, and in that direction lies WALL-E world. Not good.0 -
i dont accept my fat... i am in the process of getting rid of it... i could care less about other peoples fat... it is their choice in most cases... i can only change me... i dont like or dislike them anymore then skinny/fit people0
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A person is more than their weight. They have thoughts, feelings, desires, and emotions just like a skinny person. To me, "fat acceptance" isn't saying being fat is healthy, or ideal, or idolized. Its accepting that the adjective "fat" isn't the sole defining characteristic of a person. Fat people deal with a lot of assumptions made about them - they're lazy, dumb, slow, low-class. You see a person, and judge them immediately, simply because of their weight. That is unfair, and dehumanizing. We all have an inner life that lives on regardless of how our exterior appears.
Fat people know they're fat. They're not blind. To me, fat acceptance is recognizing the person within the person, and treating them with the same humanity we should treat all others. Be kind, as everyone is carrying within them a struggle.
This. Everyone should have the right to be treated fairly, fat or thin.
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For me, it's like smoking acceptance. I have been fat about half of my life, and i firmly believe that being fat is a CHOICE, just like walking around with the health consequences of smoking cigarettes is a choice. I was never forced to eat any of the pizzas or cheeseburgers that i ate to get me fat.
THIS is how I feel about it. And I am also fat right now. It's all about choice. You can choose what you eat, how much you eat, how often you eat. You can choose to exercise or not.
You also may be asked to pay a price for your choice. If you're a smoker and apply for health insurance you pay a higher premium because smoking is a known health risk. No, not every smoker dies of lung cancer and related diseases, but it's a strong enough connection that insurers can charge you more or deny you coverage. One day the same thing may happen with obesity, maybe it already does for certain kinds of insurance.0 -
A person is more than their weight. They have thoughts, feelings, desires, and emotions just like a skinny person. To me, "fat acceptance" isn't saying being fat is healthy, or ideal, or idolized. Its accepting that the adjective "fat" isn't the sole defining characteristic of a person. Fat people deal with a lot of assumptions made about them - they're lazy, dumb, slow, low-class. You see a person, and judge them immediately, simply because of their weight. That is unfair, and dehumanizing. We all have an inner life that lives on regardless of how our exterior appears.
Fat people know they're fat. They're not blind. To me, fat acceptance is recognizing the person within the person, and treating them with the same humanity we should treat all others. Be kind, as everyone is carrying within them a struggle.
This. Everyone should have the right to be treated fairly, fat or thin.
That site goes way beyond asking merely to be treated fairly. It asks for basic medical science to be turned on its head.0 -
I think we should just accept everyone has they are, fat skinny, gay straight, black white yellow brown green polka dot, short tall...but that doesn't mean that as humans we shouldn't try to be better and improve on ourselves.0
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How about we throw away all this bologna...fat acceptance, gay acceptance, blah blah blah...it really gets on my nerves...how about PEOPLE acceptance and call it a day...
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Other people's life choices are not my concern. I think it is ok to be fat, to use heroin, sniff gasoline, smoke cigarettes... I'm ok with other people living their life the way they want. It is their life, their choices and consequences.
And I believe in education.
But most people do not know, for example, that GMO's are linked to obesity and a range of other health problems.
So, then it becomes tricky. Because I live in a country (USA) that allows corporations (Monsanto) to basically do experiments on people with creepy genetically engineered food.
And people trust the government, and all the 3 letter agencies: FDA ... and all.
And so, I guess it is a difficult issue.
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A person is more than their weight. They have thoughts, feelings, desires, and emotions just like a skinny person. To me, "fat acceptance" isn't saying being fat is healthy, or ideal, or idolized. Its accepting that the adjective "fat" isn't the sole defining characteristic of a person. Fat people deal with a lot of assumptions made about them - they're lazy, dumb, slow, low-class. You see a person, and judge them immediately, simply because of their weight. That is unfair, and dehumanizing. We all have an inner life that lives on regardless of how our exterior appears.
Fat people know they're fat. They're not blind. To me, fat acceptance is recognizing the person within the person, and treating them with the same humanity we should treat all others. Be kind, as everyone is carrying within them a struggle.
This. Everyone should have the right to be treated fairly, fat or thin.
That site goes way beyond asking merely to be treated fairly. It asks for basic medical science to be turned on its head.
I haven't looked at the website. I'm just reacting to this post and my experience being treated poorly as an overweight individual. If people wanna be fat, fine. No skin off my nose. :P0 -
Wow, way to ramble and completely misinterpret someone's post. GJ!0
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I'm ok with other people being fat.
I'm no longer ok with myself being fat.0 -
And for... WHOEVER decided to totally flame me over a misunderstood statement taken out of the original context, here was my original post in this particular topic.
Again, apologies will be accepted at any time. I am a civil and peaceful person, but I do feel that I deserve an apology for that one. Barring an apology, I would like that person to receive action from the moderators.This was not my first introduction to Fat Acceptance.
This site was my first introduction: http://kateharding.net/
This blog post changed my life: http://kateharding.net/2007/11/27/the-fantasy-of-being-thin/
How you ask? After dieting (yo-yo-ing.. really BAD dieting. Pills. Laxatives. Occasional purging. Days of lettuce). I found myself steadily, slowly gaining weight. I had been heavy in my early teens, but after one big weight loss (at 13-14), I yo-yo-ed in the healthy BMI. I also think because I never made it to "underweight." No one, other than my parents, a boyfriend and my pediatrician was ever concerned about this behavior. I received all praise for weight loss, no one looked to see how I accomplished it.
When I started gaining (after taking Depo Provera).... I dieted, I ran, I gained. I dieted MORE, I tried the laxatives again (even though I had quit those after reading about possibly health problems), you can't get Ephedra anymore, so the over the counter pills didn't work. At under 1,000 cals a day (mostly WELL under), I ate LESS.
I hated myself. I cried, I went to the Dr - no help there (offered prescription diet pills). Some part of me KNEW what I was doing was wrong, and unhealthy, so I literally took my records and left.
Went to another Dr. She had me write down what I ate every day. She looked at it and said "You aren't eating enough." She gave me a meal plan, made me promise to follow it, told me I would gain, but the gain would stop. I did as she said, and she was right.
Then, I got ANGRY -- I could eat 3 times as much as I had before, and NOT gain weight, but I couldn't LOSE.
I would still slip and starve for a couple of days. Eventually, I fell and broke my ankle BADLY. I found out my bones were "thin." Osteopenia, probably because I hadn't eaten properly for 10 years or more.
Somewhere in this time, I happened upon Kate Harding... and I embraced FAT ACCEPTANCE for awhile. Crystal Renn was my body inspiration. I bought this SUPER HOT red bathing suit. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Gc3ZhfxghVw/Sex89ALA5kI/AAAAAAAADXE/xGi66n3xxKg/s400/swim1.jpg
I felt better in that bathing suit at my highest weight (185) than I had at my lowest (not sure, somewhere in the 120s, maybe lower) than I had when I was the smallest weight I had EVER been.
Admittedly, I went a little wild for a while, after all, eating cheesecake with NO GUILT was something I hadn't experienced since before I was 12 years old.
Through the blogs associated with Fat Acceptance, I found the ideas of clean eating, and eating intuitively. I started to take more interest in my health. I wasn't afraid to eat, I didn't feel guilty when I ate.I learned that ... I could have ice cream, so I didn't need to eat the whole container. I lost a little weight without trying.
I ended up here, MFP, due to complex fertility issues (not related to weight)... (AND a really cute pair of jeans). I knew if I ended up needing fertility treatment, the first thing they would do would be to tell me to lose weight. I also HONESTLY felt like I probably was at a higher weight than I should have been from my history of disordered eating and then overeating once I lost the guilt.
I DO feel like my time of eating freely probably served as a "reset" as the "Eat More to Lose" people call it. Without it, I am fairly certain that eating 1410 calories a day NET would NOT have caused weight loss for me.
I truly believe you accomplish more out of love - for yourself and others, than hate. I used to diet out of HATE. Now I am trying to live a healthy lifestyle out of LOVE. Self acceptance can sometimes lead to a change that no amount of self-loathing can manufacture.
Like all movements, there are (extreme) extremists in Fat Acceptance, but there is a thread that is very good and very necessary.
I know this is really long and more personally revealing than I should probably put out for the MFP vipers, but hopefully it helps someone.
*edited to say... THAT was a ramble. I'm too old to be up at 1 a.m. Shouldn't drink coffee after 7 p.m.... ever.0 -
At size 12 font, Times New Roman it's 5-1/2 pages long in Word, 3,241 words. What an essay!
tl;dr would have been a great inclusion to that post.
I think fat should be accepted in so much as some people are going to be fat. But not encouraged in such a way that special accommodations are made; I think it important that people have a reason to take care of themselves. In situations where it is a medical disability such accommodations can be made as they apply.0 -
A person is more than their weight. They have thoughts, feelings, desires, and emotions just like a skinny person. To me, "fat acceptance" isn't saying being fat is healthy, or ideal, or idolized. Its accepting that the adjective "fat" isn't the sole defining characteristic of a person. Fat people deal with a lot of assumptions made about them - they're lazy, dumb, slow, low-class. You see a person, and judge them immediately, simply because of their weight. That is unfair, and dehumanizing. We all have an inner life that lives on regardless of how our exterior appears.
Fat people know they're fat. They're not blind. To me, fat acceptance is recognizing the person within the person, and treating them with the same humanity we should treat all others. Be kind, as everyone is carrying within them a struggle.
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