ugh!! people judge quickly

every opinion is a judgment. it seems that people only get upset about others making "judgments" when those opinions differ from their own. when the opinions agree then funnily enough no one is accused of being judgmental

OMG!!! I love you! Why doesn't anyone else seem to notice this! :flowerforyou:

I have posted in a commetn ebfore that I know this post is about me because me and this person had a private message going on about 30 minutes before about how I am not a christian and I am a horrible sinner for living with him before marriage, etc..... it may be a coincedence but I highly doubt it...

If you are indeed not a Christian, then whatever you do does NOT fall under the "rules" of Christianity. I apologize in advance for the person who claims to be a Christian and yet is judging you. We as Christians are not to judge nonbelievers, only to judge believers, and even then, with kindness and out of love, to keep them on track towards their eternal rewards.

We are SUPPOSED to live a life that is in keeping with our teachings (I do as I say I do) so that we can spread the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and eternal salvation, by example, by deed, and by sharing our testimonies of God's grace and mercy. A person who claims to be a Christian calling a non-believer a sinner is just wrong, not by what I say, but by what the BIBLE says. They aren't sharing the Gospel or the Good News, they are preaching HATE, which is the complete opposite of what we as Christians are about.

Jesus said it best with "The Great Commandments":
"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

"Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:36-40 (NIV)

Any Christian who is really walking the walk should know that EVEN WE are bums, screw-ups and sinners, but we have been saved by the grace of God and Jesus Christ, and THAT is why we try to live better, out of gratitude and love for our God and our Lord and Saviour.

I hope this helps, and may you know that God loves you.

my son and his girlfriend are moving in together tomorrow in California...we don't like it but it isn't our life!! That and the fact he wants to put a ring on it just can't afford it!!

statistics show that people who live together before marriage are more likely to get divorced than those who did not live together before marriage.

Who do you think is less likely to live with a partner before they're married? Religious people. Who do you think is less likely to get a divorce if their partner turns out to be an asshat? Religious people. Correlation.

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statistics show that people who live together before marriage are more likely to get divorced than those who did not live together before marriage.

Who do you think is less likely to live with a partner before they're married? Religious people. Who do you think is less likely to get a divorce if their partner turns out to be an asshat? Religious people. Correlation.

Not necessarily. Myself including several friends of mine are atheist. We didn't live with our partners ahead of time and have very balance marriages. I do have friends that did live with their partners ahead of time as well, some turn out well some didn't, some of them were even religious. People who don't live with their partner first do so because they are still living their independent life for awhile and also want to know who they are which has nothing to do with religion.

statistics show that people who live together before marriage are more likely to get divorced than those who did not live together before marriage.

Who do you think is less likely to live with a partner before they're married? Religious people. Who do you think is less likely to get a divorce if their partner turns out to be an asshat? Religious people. Correlation.

I would like also like to add that the Bible Belt has the highest divorce rate, so that kind of goes against they are most likely to stay together.

So someone on my FB just made a status saying "If you are not married yet, you shouldn't be living together" and this was meant towards me because before my husband and I got married, we lived together for a few months....

I see nothing wrong with this! It does not mean we hare having sex just because we live together so stop judging and live your life and leave mine alone

My mom would have killed me if I DIDN'T live with AND have sex with my husband before we had gotten married. She was a virgin when she and my father got married and the sex was terrible and they weren't compatible to live with and they got divorced after a year and a half....

They would hate me then. My fiance (then bf) moved in with me after 1 month of dating. We still aren't married (4 years later) though we do have a 16 month old child together.

As someone who got knocked up while living with my boyfriend while married to another man... I don't think I get to have an opinion on this.

But I will post a PSA about legal rights that come with marriage. There's a reason the gays want it so bad and it ain't bragging rights. Some basic info here: http://myfamilylaw.com/library/marriage/legal-rights-and-benefits-of-marriage/

ETA: You could do it in a courthouse and no one would have to know... you can still be "alternative" and "edgy" or whatever lol

ETAagain: A clip from the site: "...society treats the spouse as the most privileged party... This is an important factor when it comes to making medical decisions or receiving public assistance benefits on behalf of your spouse , or rights that would otherwise require a power of attorney... Social Security, disability and medicare benefits can all be paid to a spouse as can veteran and military benefits... insurance plans through an employer can normally add a spouse to the plan, a benefit that is not offered to unmarried couples... employers also extend bereavement leave to close relatives of your spouse and allow family leave to care for your spouse in the event they become ill or disabled... Marriage also gives you the right to sue on behalf of your spouse and gives you visiting rights if your spouse is in jail or the intensive care unit at a hospital . You cannot be called to testify against your spouse..."

I have posted in a commetn ebfore that I know this post is about me because me and this person had a private message going on about 30 minutes before about how I am not a christian and I am a horrible sinner for living with him before marriage, etc..... it may be a coincedence but I highly doubt it...

If you are indeed not a Christian, then whatever you do does NOT fall under the "rules" of Christianity. I apologize in advance for the person who claims to be a Christian and yet is judging you. We as Christians are not to judge nonbelievers, only to judge believers, and even then, with kindness and out of love, to keep them on track towards their eternal rewards.

We are SUPPOSED to live a life that is in keeping with our teachings (I do as I say I do) so that we can spread the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and eternal salvation, by example, by deed, and by sharing our testimonies of God's grace and mercy. A person who claims to be a Christian calling a non-believer a sinner is just wrong, not by what I say, but by what the BIBLE says. They aren't sharing the Gospel or the Good News, they are preaching HATE, which is the complete opposite of what we as Christians are about.

Jesus said it best with "The Great Commandments":
"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

"Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:36-40 (NIV)

Any Christian who is really walking the walk should know that EVEN WE are bums, screw-ups and sinners, but we have been saved by the grace of God and Jesus Christ, and THAT is why we try to live better, out of gratitude and love for our God and our Lord and Saviour.

I hope this helps, and may you know that God loves you.

Exactly!

I believe that you should live with the boyfriend/girlfriend only when you are seriously thinking about marriage. You will learn pet peeves, cleaning habits, etc when living with a boyfriend/girlfriend. Some which will make or break the relationship, better to find them out prior to marriage. With that said, I moved in with my now husband (and his kids) only a month after MEETING him.. (Although my family knew him.. I went through quite a bit prior to marriage and some now, but Im happy. That's all that matters. Do what you do and don't pay no mind to anyone else!

Honestly, they have an opinion just like you do. It doesn't make them wrong or right. I am personally anti-cohabitation, since I believe it cheapens marriage itself. That is my opinion of course. . If someone says I should live with someone first to test it out first, I would think its crazy. Honestly, we live in a morally corrupt society, so everything is on the table..lol

Exactly. While I don't agree with this entire opinion, I agree that no one is wrong or right. Just because I express and defend my personal opinion, doesn't mean I judge anyone for holding a different opinion. I don't mind having a debate about the why's and I keep it all respectful. I would never bash someone personally for holding an opinion but I will defend my own opinion until I'm proven otherwise.

I may hate your opinion, religion, culture or lifestyle but I will defend your right to express it.

I believe that you should live with the boyfriend/girlfriend only when you are seriously thinking about marriage. You will learn pet peeves, cleaning habits, etc when living with a boyfriend/girlfriend. Some which will make or break the relationship, better to find them out prior to marriage. With that said, I moved in with my now husband (and his kids) only a month after MEETING him.. (Although my family knew him.. I went through quite a bit prior to marriage and some now, but Im happy. That's all that matters. Do what you do and don't pay no mind to anyone else!

I think it's better to have the mindset that annoying habits can be tolerated, fixed or worked through rather than something to "make or break" a relationship. If you get to the point of marriage you are probably pretty "in love"... the little things should take a backseat to what's really important (establishing the family unit for financial stability and procreating).

This is very limited thinking. Marriage is anything you want it to be. There is not "one point" that we all have to get. There are atheist and theists who marry, childfree by choice marriages, open marriages, same sex marriages, sexless marriages etc. Theists may not like it but there is a great big diverse world out there and theists do not get to decide what constitutes marriage theists do not get to own marriage.

I believe that you should live with the boyfriend/girlfriend only when you are seriously thinking about marriage. You will learn pet peeves, cleaning habits, etc when living with a boyfriend/girlfriend. Some which will make or break the relationship, better to find them out prior to marriage. With that said, I moved in with my now husband (and his kids) only a month after MEETING him.. (Although my family knew him.. I went through quite a bit prior to marriage and some now, but Im happy. That's all that matters. Do what you do and don't pay no mind to anyone else!

I think it's better to have the mindset that annoying habits can be tolerated, fixed or worked through rather than something to "make or break" a relationship. If you get to the point of marriage you are probably pretty "in love"... the little things should take a backseat to what's really important (establishing the family unit for financial stability and procreating).

This is very limited thinking. Marriage is anything you want it to be. There is not "one point" that we all have to get. There are atheist and theists who marry, childfree by choice marriages, open marriages, same sex marriages, sexless marriages etc. Theists may not like it but there is a great big diverse world out there and theists do not get to decide what constitutes marriage theists do not get to own marriage.

Maybe you should tell a "theist" that. I am not one.

You are just as limited as you claim I am.

Marriage is not "anything you want it to be". Your relationship can be whatever you want it to be, MARRAIGE is a legal and binding contract that was put together with a very specific purpose. You choosing to live outside the norm does not change that fact.

Theists do not get to decide what marriage is, but neither do you. Legally it is what it is no matter who's signing the paper.

It must be AWESOME to be a liberal...