Now they are going to ban free refills on drinks?

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  • flabbytofabby
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    You do know this law will most likely never be passed right?

    But i love some of the extreme comments on here, about Freedom and whatnot on a law that is meant to help YOU, the laws in China etc, about having kids etc are to help the Government. But anyway, you pay for your own health care i guess, you get as unhealthy and fat as you wish.
  • fiveohmike
    fiveohmike Posts: 1,297 Member
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    What baffles me is people that are willing to live with an authoritarian government.... :-/ Not exactly my idea of liberty... but hey, I guess I'm living in the dark ages... when there was actually enlightened people walking around.

    Its because a lot of people lack responsibility and personal accountability. The people that clamor for government intervention are sheep

    Things like this are small erosion in the foundation of freedom and liberty that this country was founded on. They don't take massive steps to erode freedom. They take small cuts. Death of freedom by a thousand cuts.

    Its ridiculous how many blind people there are in this country.

    This is leading down a slippery slope that the forefathers of this country never wanted. They did NOT want this country to be Europe but that's the way its headed. How well is that working out for them?

    How soon until the government regulates your own refrigerator. ?

    How soon until the government regulates every little aspect of our person freedom (that they already haven't regulated)?

    Benji Franklin said it best:

    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
  • shanice_22
    shanice_22 Posts: 202 Member
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    Come to the UK where refills are rare, but we can buy as many glasses of fizzy drinks as we want even if they cost more than the alcoholic ones.

    I tend to see refills a lot but because I only really go to places with them :-P lol if they did this in the UK I would actually cry! I only drink diet fizzy drinks!!
  • caitlinen
    caitlinen Posts: 36 Member
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    But it is the governments responsibility to take care of their people... and soda is extremely unhealthy.


    Again, then don't drink one. But don't tell me that I can't have one... and don't tell me how much I am allowed to have... I'm not 8 and you (nor the Government) are not my mother.... I am a literate American adult, I am perfectly capible of making my own decisions, as are much of the population.... if someone wants to kill themselves slowly with soda and blame it on their thyroid, then by god let them. One less stupid person roaming this planet.

    But again... no one is telling you how much soda you can have! They're just telling you can't have as much as you want for FREE at a restaurant!
  • WestCoastPhoenix
    WestCoastPhoenix Posts: 802 Member
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    That sucks!!!! I love my diet coke

    eww. you mean you love your drink that's capable of cleaning up blood off pavement and cement?
    So many brilliant pieces of information here. Excuse me while I go laugh.
  • future_runner
    future_runner Posts: 136 Member
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    Telling us what/how much we can drink is just one tiny step toward our country becoming a communist nation....

    Now tell me...How do you feel about the government restricting drugs and Narcotics?

    Pretty idiotic comparison. Maybe they should ban all junk food. No more junk food. Period. No desserts. Hell, no sugar. Forget the sugar industry. It makes people fat.

    Give me a break comparing someone getting a refill of a beverage to doing cocaine (which, btw: since you did bring it up. When someone drinks a diet coke or seven they don't pose a threat to anyone getting behind the wheel of a car, caring for children, etc. however, when someone does cocaine, crack, marijuana, etc. their abilities are impaired. ARGUMENT FAIL!!!!!)

    Actually, someone being legally permitted to consume cocaine has nothing to do with whether they would be permitted to drive on it. You almost made a solid argument, the danger factor isn't the same. But to stick with this comparison, our current under funded collective health care system is severely burdened by people with weight related health conditions. There is a basis for local governments to step in and make some regulations, I just feel like this is the wrong one.
  • vonallena
    vonallena Posts: 34
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    People who keep saying, "This is why I vote Republican" don't realize that's kinda contradictory. Yeah she's a Democrat but it isn't the Federal Government that is imposing this rule. It is a local state government, one of the fundemental ideals Republicans strive for -- State's Rights.

    SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....
  • lukeout007
    lukeout007 Posts: 1,247 Member
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    Oh yeah...because I totally go to a restaurant for the free refills. That got me in the door.

    And yes they can regulate that sort of thing...if they were marketing "free guns with any happy meal" the government would step in. How is it any different? Guns don't kill people...idiot people do. Soda doesn't kill people...idiot people kill themselves.

    I worked in a restaurant for YEARS. I'd guess 90% of people who were there for the first time asked, before being seated, "do you have free refills?" Some would not commit to being seated until we assured them, "yep; everything but the beer!" So yes; it does get people in the door...

    How is it any different? ROFL. I do get that arguing is lost on you now. Guns? REALLY?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Oh. Wait. I'm not done.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Tell me how its different.

    Oh wow. You seriously think they're the same... O.o I didn't know anybody could lack the capacity to actually comprehend the difference.

    When was the last article you saw that was about a child accidentally killing a friend with a soda pop? Just curious....

    You'll notice I said "soda doesn't kill people...idiot people kill THEMSELVES"

    So with that said...how about every obesity article ever posted on here? Is that enough for you? Do you think the majority of the people who die from obesity related causes don't drink soda every single day?

    And since you wanna be a smart *kitten* about the difference why don't you go ahead and explain to me how the government regulating refills is any different than the government regulating whether or not guns can be given away free with purchase?

    Government regulation is government regulation. I never stated that guns weren't more dangerous than soda.

    OK. So when was the last time someone was ROBBED by soda point? Anyone??

    I love how you're skirting around my question. If you can't answer it just admit it and move on. Or at the least have the decency to stop replying to it.

    I pointed out the difference in my response. NOW who's being a dumba$$? :rolleyes:

    The difference is that people use guns to commit crimes (therefore, the regulations are necessary to try to dissipate the issue). Soda isn't typically a weapon of choice.

    If you don't know the difference between a weapon and a beverage, then no amount of ANYBODY showing comparisons is going to make a difference. If that's the case, then you obviously lack the capacity to comprehend. Get it yet?

    You didn't point out anything...you stated something completely asanine. And since you obviously don't get the gun thing then let's try this...

    How about if retailers were giving out packs of cigarettes with every meal? Nobody has ever robbed anyone at cigarette point...so that should be cool then right?
  • WestCoastPhoenix
    WestCoastPhoenix Posts: 802 Member
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    People who keep saying, "This is why I vote Republican" don't realize that's kinda contradictory. Yeah she's a Democrat but it isn't the Federal Government that is imposing this rule. It is a local state government, one of the fundemental ideals Republicans strive for -- State's Rights.

    SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....
    That's a stretch dude.
  • ambitious01
    ambitious01 Posts: 209 Member
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    This is where "a free country" is starting to go down the toilet.:grumble:
  • derrickshunny
    derrickshunny Posts: 5 Member
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    They need to realize that people will just buy more if they want it! Just like all the healthy choices at fast food places, you can offer it, but you can't make people buy it! You can't govern people into fitness. Just more freedom being lost!
  • immeagain
    immeagain Posts: 16
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    Soda has ZERO nutritional quality. But when Big Brother steps in to regulate, I consider that worse.

    This is what bothers me, the government is taking the wrong approach, teach instead of take. If they concentrated more on teaching people the right way and making the healthy food affordable then they wouldn't have to "ban" stuff. That is not going to do anything...
  • FrugalMomsRock75
    FrugalMomsRock75 Posts: 698 Member
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    And for the record...my understanding is that you are stating that if we gave away guns for free more people would be robbed at gun point? Correct?

    Then by the same logic if we give away soda refills for free more people will be obese.

    You're done.


    I'm saying that gun regulations are necessary BECAUSE guns are weapons, and weapons are often used for ill purposes against other people. Soda pop, typically, is NOT.
  • vonallena
    vonallena Posts: 34
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    People who keep saying, "This is why I vote Republican" don't realize that's kinda contradictory. Yeah she's a Democrat but it isn't the Federal Government that is imposing this rule. It is a local state government, one of the fundemental ideals Republicans strive for -- State's Rights.

    SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....
    That's a stretch dude.

    How is that a stretch? Republicans always get angry that the Federal Government is dictating so much and totally removing each individual state's ability to choose for themselves. They clamor for State's Rights all the time. This is an example of a State deciding, not Federal.

    SOOOO unless this stretch you're refering to is tiny, it's not much of one.
  • FrugalMomsRock75
    FrugalMomsRock75 Posts: 698 Member
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    You didn't point out anything...you stated something completely asanine. And since you obviously don't get the gun thing then let's try this...

    How about if retailers were giving out packs of cigarettes with every meal? Nobody has ever robbed anyone at cigarette point...so that should be cool then right?

    Another fail. OTHERS can be harmed in the process of people smoking. Hence the regulations. Second hand smoke causes cancer. I don't anticipate my getting cancer because my husband drinks a soda pop....
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
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    The fact that people would even get upset over banning free refills is just beyond me. It is certainly not the end of the world and believe me you will survive. If you are so desperate for more soda just buy another. I just don't see the big deal at all. You're so upset about the government regulating this, you want free choice, etc... but they regulate so many other things already!

    Actually, I get upset about the government regulating things they have no business regulating... regardless of how inane it is... but again, that's why I vote Libertarian.... But I do find it funny that in Sweden it's legal to have sex with a dog, but not ok to have however many "free" refills one would like... (just trying to make a comparison based on liberal (ie to be free, individualism, etc) tendencies of the country... I really couldn't care less what a person does or doesn't do as long is it is not infringing on the rights of others)
  • iAMaPhoenix
    iAMaPhoenix Posts: 1,038 Member
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    Every time I hear a stupid idea like this, I am reminded to always vote Republican.

    Are you talking about the same republican party that tells us what we do in the privacy of our own bedroom is their business, or who whe can and cannot marry...Yeah, keep voting for them until they tell you that you are not allowed to watch internet porn anymore...Oh, they already think that is wrong!!!
  • fiveohmike
    fiveohmike Posts: 1,297 Member
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    And for the record...my understanding is that you are stating that if we gave away guns for free more people would be robbed at gun point? Correct?

    Then by the same logic if we give away soda refills for free more people will be obese.

    You're done.






    I'm saying that gun regulations are necessary BECAUSE guns are weapons, and weapons are often used for ill purposes against other people. Soda pop, typically, is NOT.

    Guns used for ill purposes are more often than not, obtained by illegal means. Gun control laws only hurt people who follow the law. People who break the law, will not follow the law. Gun control laws are inept and another affront to personal liberty in this country.
  • Doing_The_Unstruck
    Doing_The_Unstruck Posts: 241 Member
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    I think people should be able to choose whatever they want. I also think that they should pay for the health problems they will develop from their choices down the road. If they can't pay for their medical needs, they should not expect any help from the government and tax payers money. If they die from it, oh well, they chose their lifestyle.
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
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    Oh yeah...because I totally go to a restaurant for the free refills. That got me in the door.

    And yes they can regulate that sort of thing...if they were marketing "free guns with any happy meal" the government would step in. How is it any different? Guns don't kill people...idiot people do. Soda doesn't kill people...idiot people kill themselves.

    Because the use of a gun can infringe on the rights of others (ultimately their life and thusly liberty and the pursuit of happiness) whereas, a soda infringes on no one elses rights except for the person that consumes too much of it.