Positive comments on unhealthy diaries

It's one day at a time one hour at a time. This is a learning process. I will praise anyone regardless of what they ate because I know they can see my food diary and maybe they will say oooooo that fruit and yogart parfait sounds good let me try it. Or Wow she had 10 cups of water maybe I should up mine.

What people need to understand their are people who are not just addicted to food but also don't know how to change. There is a learning curve and some people have it easier than others.

ok cal in vs. out still lose weight right? yeah but if its all crap youre losing muscle. and that NOT a healthy weightloss. so cal in vs/ cal out isn't the only thing that counts for losing weight healthily. sorry it just isn't. sorry if anyone doesn't like to hear this but you can't eat 1200 cals of ice and workout and lose weight correctly.

Dude, you don't magically lose muscle just because you have poor nutrition. That's just not how it works.

Youre joking right? (blank stare)

Not enough calories is what causes muscle loss.

ok cal in vs. out still lose weight right? yeah but if its all crap youre losing muscle. and that NOT a healthy weightloss. so cal in vs/ cal out isn't the only thing that counts for losing weight healthily. sorry it just isn't. sorry if anyone doesn't like to hear this but you can't eat 1200 cals of icecream and workout and lose weight correctly.


And i wonder how twinkie mans blood glucose levels are...i don't have to look at that to know hes body was still starving.

Doesn't say anything about his blood glucose level, but it does say this

"Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent."

He did become "healthier" about the muscle loss that is a possibility. It's pretty vague though this topic, we're talking about "weight loss" now it's going in to "fat loss"

People also have to keep in mind, obese people usually can't make a 180 in their diet and be successful. They should start off with cutting down on their normal diet, and start to increase better food. This is another reason why someone's diet can look bad to some people.

I think its safe to assume that ppl on this site who want to lose weight prob wants to lose fat. I don't know anyone who wants to lose muscle. Anyone can lose weight but are they healthy? are they losing fat or muscle? its not about fitting a pair of jeans,, you can fit a pair of jeans if you lose 15 lbs of muscle. People needed to put weightloss and healthy on the same playing field. I just assumed ppl wanted to lose weight to become healthier but after reading some of the comments, ppl want to lose weight regarless of if theyre healthy or not.

I do eat a lot of junk food, but staying under my cal goal is difficult and a big deal to me. It's the positive support that keeps me on this site, no matter how ****ty I ate. It means a lot to me that people still support me despite what I eat. If I'm disciplined enough to keep under my cal goal, why shouldn't I deserve a thumbs up? Not everyone wants to restrict themselves to healthy food only. This site is meant to help you lose weight by tracking calories, not by learning how to eat a different way.

ok cal in vs. out still lose weight right? yeah but if its all crap youre losing muscle. and that NOT a healthy weightloss. so cal in vs/ cal out isn't the only thing that counts for losing weight healthily. sorry it just isn't. sorry if anyone doesn't like to hear this but you can't eat 1200 cals of ice and workout and lose weight correctly.

Dude, you don't magically lose muscle just because you have poor nutrition. That's just not how it works.

That is EXACTLY how it works. You have to feed your body a certain way, or the first thing it eats is muscle. That's Nutrition 101... Protein=good.

You do realize protein is filled with uric acid right?

And uric acid is excreted in the urine....what are you getting at sir?

And you DO know that trying to argue the fact that protein isn't the building blocks of muscle is going against YEARS of research and proven results? But, you're right. To each his own, blah blah, whatever. You've all found ways of justifying eating whatever you want since you're seeing results by eating only 5 twinkies instead of 8. It's cool.

BTW...I saw your earlier post about the obese having to make slow changes, and I couldn't agree with you more. However, you should not make a change from an empty calorie diet, to a slightly better, but still calorie dense diet and then stay. It's constant improvement. I still enjoy the occasional beer, and have a glass of wine most nights. Changing your lifestyle doesn't mean giving up everything.

It seems to me you have no idea how fat people actually eat. 8 twinkies? Seriously? We are not walking stereotypes.

And you DO know that trying to argue the fact that protein isn't the building blocks of muscle is going against YEARS of research and proven results? But, you're right. To each his own, blah blah, whatever. You've all found ways of justifying eating whatever you want since you're seeing results by eating only 5 twinkies instead of 8. It's cool.

BTW...I saw your earlier post about the obese having to make slow changes, and I couldn't agree with you more. However, you should not make a change from an empty calorie diet, to a slightly better, but still calorie dense diet and then stay. It's constant improvement. I still enjoy the occasional beer, and have a glass of wine most nights. Changing your lifestyle doesn't mean giving up everything.

It seems to me you have no idea how fat people actually eat. 8 twinkies? Seriously? We are not walking stereotypes.

I don't think it was sterotyping. Its the fact that you said you eat crap and still lose weight, and the other guy mentioned to study on twinkies. thats all. no stereotypes

I agree with ya'll. I'm sorry, but I've started deleting friends who complain about not losing weight, but then I see their diary and it's full of diet coke, and they've swapped a big mac for a smaller hamburger. It's not only about how much, but what you eat. Weight is only an indicator of what's going on INSIDE. And being obese tends to mean you have a higher chance of diabetes, heart problems, etc. This exists because of the foods you eat, and the weight you gain is a result. The weight problem is just a visual for what your body is going thru on the inside too.

Go ahead and delete me if you're on my list! :laugh: I've lost my weight while still eating all the junk food I want.

And when you get to your "goal weight" , you're going to be "skinny fat", but I doubt you'll even be skinny. So, go on and enjoy the junk food

Ooohnoess "skinny fat". Don't worry, I'm not concerned about having a body type that pleases you.

Lol I could go MUCH meaner now, but I'm not going too. Clearly, you feel the need to defend yourself. You're one of those that needs someone to validate that your "trying" or whatever. That's fine, but this post is about people posting clearly wrong comments on people's diaries. If someone takes in 5k calories in a day, you're not going to see a "good job". You SHOULD have a friend on here messaging you tho and asking what's up and how things are going. Seeing if you need some encouragement. Anything less is false hope.

I love how at 23 you know everything... some people really do not care about skinny fat... does that mean she is stupid? nope it means that at this point in losing weight she really just doesn't care. Who are you to judge? perhaps he goal is a certain pants size, or a certain body fat percentage number... NOT all of us are concerned with what others want us to look like we just want to be happy with what WE see in the mirror.

I agree with ya'll. I'm sorry, but I've started deleting friends who complain about not losing weight, but then I see their diary and it's full of diet coke, and they've swapped a big mac for a smaller hamburger. It's not only about how much, but what you eat. Weight is only an indicator of what's going on INSIDE. And being obese tends to mean you have a higher chance of diabetes, heart problems, etc. This exists because of the foods you eat, and the weight you gain is a result. The weight problem is just a visual for what your body is going thru on the inside too.

Go ahead and delete me if you're on my list! :laugh: I've lost my weight while still eating all the junk food I want.

And when you get to your "goal weight" , you're going to be "skinny fat", but I doubt you'll even be skinny. So, go on and enjoy the junk food

Ooohnoess "skinny fat". Don't worry, I'm not concerned about having a body type that pleases you.

Lol I could go MUCH meaner now, but I'm not going too. Clearly, you feel the need to defend yourself. You're one of those that needs someone to validate that your "trying" or whatever. That's fine, but this post is about people posting clearly wrong comments on people's diaries. If someone takes in 5k calories in a day, you're not going to see a "good job". You SHOULD have a friend on here messaging you tho and asking what's up and how things are going. Seeing if you need some encouragement. Anything less is false hope.

I love how at 23 you know everything... some people really do not care about skinny fat... does that mean she is stupid? nope it means that at this point in losing weight she really just doesn't care. Who are you to judge? perhaps he goal is a certain pants size, or a certain body fat percentage number... NOT all of us are concerned with what others want us to look like we just want to be happy with what WE see in the mirror.

1. I never claimed to know everything, but yes, I educate myself on things that are important. Like my health. That's important, and I want others to realize that too. 2. When did I EVER call her stupid?? That didn't even make since. 3. You're comment about the mirror has already been addressed earlier. It's myFITNESSpal, not mySKINNYpal. The point has already been made that it is about a HEALTHY life, not a skinny one. If that's not your goal, it's like saying you'll eat twinkies and ding dongs, but weigh 130 lbs, and then have a short life expectancy because you're nutrition sucks. Why do that? There's no point...

ok cal in vs. out still lose weight right? yeah but if its all crap youre losing muscle. and that NOT a healthy weightloss. so cal in vs/ cal out isn't the only thing that counts for losing weight healthily. sorry it just isn't. sorry if anyone doesn't like to hear this but you can't eat 1200 cals of ice and workout and lose weight correctly.

Dude, you don't magically lose muscle just because you have poor nutrition. That's just not how it works.

That is EXACTLY how it works. You have to feed your body a certain way, or the first thing it eats is muscle. That's Nutrition 101... Protein=good.

You do realize protein is filled with uric acid right?

And uric acid is excreted in the urine....what are you getting at sir?

Yes human uric acid is, but uric acid is also in the meat you eat. You're literally eating uric acid every time you eat meat. The point is, everything can be considered unhealthy.

Well only if youre body doesn't excrete the uric acid out.....could cause cholelithiasis. But if youre urinary system works properly you should be fine. I don't see how comparing protein to junk food is the same?

Honestly if someone looked at my diary and seen this past week and then came to this forum and put me down like this, what support are you giving me? Honestly I know my diary this week looks like crap but hey, at least I'm honest about what I ate. Most my friends know that I do pretty good most the time, but some reason I have had a very off week and I am feeling the pain right now about it. There is bad things in everything we eat, if you want to get technical. However not EVERYONE on this site does it the same way as you may do it. Some people are here just to count their calories not eat healthy. Some people just only want to be thinner, some want to get fit and healthy, not everyone here is here for the same thing.

OP made a comment that this is a comment forum, right it is, but it's also a support forum which from this OP I do not see any support. Instead of cutting down the person by ranting about it, how about make a comment to your said friend and say something like "Where are your veggies or fruit?" Maybe they need an extra push instead of a slap in the face? Just my opinion and my comment.

Yes human uric acid is, but uric acid is also in the meat you eat. You're literally eating uric acid every time you eat meat. The point is, everything can be considered unhealthy.

What annoys me is that people think "clean" eating and exercise will make you healthy. People ignore mental health and the negative health effects of exercise (joint issues, injuries, etc)... Nobody is healthy. There's always something unhealthy about a person.

I'm honestly not trying to be rude but i'm not understanding your stance. We aren't talking about mental health but physical health. and actually yes clean/healthy eating and exercise will make you healthy....why do you think otherwise? i'm so confused at this. Negative health effect of exercise, not true, riding a bike would be easier on the joints, but theres prob joint issues bc of carrrying around excess weight which will be alleviated throught clean eating and exercise..... help me understand

Yes human uric acid is, but uric acid is also in the meat you eat. You're literally eating uric acid every time you eat meat. The point is, everything can be considered unhealthy.

What annoys me is that people think "clean" eating and exercise will make you healthy. People ignore mental health and the negative health effects of exercise (joint issues, injuries, etc)... Nobody is healthy. There's always something unhealthy about a person.

I'm honestly not trying to be rude but i'm not understand your stance. We aren't talking about mental health but physical health. and actually yes clean/healthy eating and exercise will me you healthy....why do you think otherwise, i'm so confused at this. Negative health effect of exercise, not true, riding a bike would be easier or the joints, but theres prob joint issues bc of carrrying around excess weight which will be alleviated throught clean eating and exercise..... help me understand

We were talking about health in general. And you will not be healthy if you are mentally ill, no matter how well you eat and how much you exercise. You will not be healthy if you have an injured knee from running. Yes, thin people get exercise injuries too. Marathon runners drop dead mid-run. That's not very healthy.
Every person has a different level of health and that does not make them any better or worse as a person. Health does not give someone moral high-ground. Health isn't even visible from something as simple as a food diary or body type.

When I first started logging I 'thought' I was eating fairly well. It didn't take long to see how bad the food was for me and how high in calories, etc. So, when I see a diary thats full of 'garbage', processed food, etc and they are under or over goal, I take into consideration that perhaps they are still in the learning stages of a new lifestyle and I still try to be supportive. If however, they have been on MFP for quite a while and eat poptarts for breakfast, cheeseburgers, fries, high calorie beverages, etc when I believe they should know better,, I don't comment rather than posting something that isnt nice. I believe that in this process of changing our diet, we need to praise them when they do well rather than when they don't. Positive reinforcement works better than negative.
I, myself, have some days that are better than others but I'm still a work in progress. I've lost almost 40lbs so I must be doing something right. If someone wants to give me supportive advice and do it in a nice way, then I consider them a 'pal' if I feel they are actually trying to help me rather than just put me down. I also don't mind some brutally honest advice or opinions if, again, I feel like they are trying to help me and not be mean.
Maybe if we don't like their diary we can word some encouragement to say something like, great job of staying under your goals but maybe you can start adding more veggies or fruits, etc. to your diet. That helped me when I first started but I asked for advice and kept my diary open to all of my pals.
I suppose if someone doesn't like the comments they receive, they can hide their diary. I say do whatever works for YOU and try to be supportive. We all need help or we wouldn't be on MFP.

I agree with ya'll. I'm sorry, but I've started deleting friends who complain about not losing weight, but then I see their diary and it's full of diet coke, and they've swapped a big mac for a smaller hamburger. It's not only about how much, but what you eat. Weight is only an indicator of what's going on INSIDE. And being obese tends to mean you have a higher chance of diabetes, heart problems, etc. This exists because of the foods you eat, and the weight you gain is a result. The weight problem is just a visual for what your body is going thru on the inside too.

Go ahead and delete me if you're on my list! :laugh: I've lost my weight while still eating all the junk food I want.

And when you get to your "goal weight" , you're going to be "skinny fat", but I doubt you'll even be skinny. So, go on and enjoy the junk food

Ooohnoess "skinny fat". Don't worry, I'm not concerned about having a body type that pleases you.

Lol I could go MUCH meaner now, but I'm not going too. Clearly, you feel the need to defend yourself. You're one of those that needs someone to validate that your "trying" or whatever. That's fine, but this post is about people posting clearly wrong comments on people's diaries. If someone takes in 5k calories in a day, you're not going to see a "good job". You SHOULD have a friend on here messaging you tho and asking what's up and how things are going. Seeing if you need some encouragement. Anything less is false hope.

I love how at 23 you know everything... some people really do not care about skinny fat... does that mean she is stupid? nope it means that at this point in losing weight she really just doesn't care. Who are you to judge? perhaps he goal is a certain pants size, or a certain body fat percentage number... NOT all of us are concerned with what others want us to look like we just want to be happy with what WE see in the mirror.

1. I never claimed to know everything, but yes, I educate myself on things that are important. Like my health. That's important, and I want others to realize that too. 2. When did I EVER call her stupid?? That didn't even make since. 3. You're comment about the mirror has already been addressed earlier. It's myFITNESSpal, not mySKINNYpal. The point has already been made that it is about a HEALTHY life, not a skinny one. If that's not your goal, it's like saying you'll eat twinkies and ding dongs, but weigh 130 lbs, and then have a short life expectancy because you're nutrition sucks. Why do that? There's no point...

Sense*** not since..

also I am glad you educate yourself on things that are important... but for me losing weight - right now is for my HEALTH..being 4'9 and 200+ pounds is bad for ones heart... and that is why I joined this site...its for my health... not because I want to look like she hulk... and no I am not saying anything bad about anyone with muscles.. .I have many friends on here that are hot.. and have tons of lady muscles, but at this point lady muscles are not my biggest concern.... Just because its my FITNESS pal.. you can be skinny and healthy... does not mean anything... Do I want to work on my fitness level?? Sure.. at this exact moment its not my number one goal... sue me.. I am using this site to LEARN...

Oh and PS. When I weigh 130 pounds I will not eat ding dongs and Twinkies... but that's because I do not LIKE ding dongs and twinkies.. I didn't get fat eating ding dongs and Twinkies. But when I weigh 130 pounds you bet I will still drink wine, and beer and eat ice cream and pizza too..

I do not eat clean... and you know why? because I do not want to... its that simple.. I can be healthy and still enjoy the small things in life - there is nothing saying I can't.