Calling All REAL animal lovers!!!

Which didnt happen without an open mind, and free thinking, and not "believing" that something may not be possible. Keep diggin. A scientist didnt sit there and go "Yep, boats are not possible. I know for a fact something so big cannot float. I have seen rocks sink"

This is rather comical.

I have beliefs about many different things, doesnt mean I am close minded about boats and the way the world works. I don't believe science is the answer to everything in the world, just religion as science has facts about the big bang ect and until proven otherwise I am atheist. It doesnt matter to me how anyone else feels about my opinions as they are solely mine.

Big bang is just as much a myth as religion. Your arguments are still crap. If it doesnt matter, then stop posting. Clueless science person is still clueless

I believe that animals aren't here for us to dominate and control. I think that that factory farming is horrendous. I think that even the animals we eat should be treated properly. When I had a dog (til he passed away) he always ate better than I did.. when i was on a ramen noodle diet, he was eating dog food that was $60 a bag and was treated as if he was a my kid, but he still knew his place in the household..

It bothers me how people don't really have a regard for animals.

Hypothetical situation: There is a massive natural disaster. You and your beloved pet are trapped far away from everyone with no idea of when rescue might come. You are both starving as there is no food available. Do you eat your pet to survive, or sacrifice your life to feed the pet? Think about that long and hard. I doubt there are many people who honestly would die so that a dog/cat/gerbil/whatever would live... and those that claim so, would not actually do so when in in that situation for real.

No disrespect to your passed pooch, but I know I would take the life of any animal before the life of any human. This doesn't mean I have no regard for the animal... in fact, I would be very grateful to the animal giving me the ability to live.

Oooh, this was actually broached in a recent tv show on ABC, "The River". A man was lost in the jungle with no hope of survival or rescue - no water, no food, etc. He was with his dog, and went through the whole emotional state of planning to kill the dog for food. However, when he had the knife to its throat and was telling his dog everything would be ok, he just broke down and couldn't do it. Even faced with certain death, he couldn't kill the one creature that had stayed with him and kept him sane through all the crazy stuff happening around him.

It boils down to the individual person and their bond with their animal. Some people view their pets as just that - pets. But others view them as more than that, children even.

It is really sad to see how many animals are being abused and neglected in this world at the hands of humans. The penalty for animal abuse is not high enough. Working with rescue organizations has shown me that people are just plain evil. Torturing and killing a helpless animal for no reason should have the same penalty as killing a defenseless human child. And as far as eating meat, its not about eating them in general its the way people go about eating them. Killing baby cows and lambs before they have even lived a full life for food? That doesnt make sense to me and its terrible. If people must eat meat, how about waiting for the animal to have a decently good long life before sending them to a slaughter house? Or making the animals eat harmone infused grain instead of natural grass just to save a few dollars is awful. So basically before the animal is slaughtered it is forced into tiny pens with other animals before it is even a year old and fed stuff that is terrible for them and inject them with steroids and then they kill it. Or with chickens putting them in a 2 by 2 cage where they cannot move or stand up for there whole life then zapping them so they become paralyzed before cutting there heads off? If they did things more humane they would all be free range and live to be longer then a year. Im a vegetarian partly because i cannot digest meat properly and because i love every animal. There is signifigant research to support that way back when humans were vegetarians. The way that our body is built we shouldnt even be able to digest meat properly, something to do with the enzymes in our stomach. I read it somewhere if i find the link ill pass it along. Humans started eating meat for survival when nothing else was available and it has escalated from there. I think with all the alternatives in this world now we don't need to slaughter animals just because they taste good? If we can survive on things that don't require cruelty and death then why don't we? Vegetables and fruits and vegan alternatives can help us stay healthy, live longer and not become obese to the point where we need sites like this. If you need to eat meat then fine but there is a better way to go about it then people do.

frigg the bible is just some book some guy wrote a long time ago and there was no tv or real literature so they worshipped that. imagine if twilight had been written before there was television or any electronics or anything real to do and it was the first book you had ever seen. You would read it and everyone would think vampires were real. also the bible has been so twisted and translated by every different religiion over the many many years that nobody really knows what the real bible even said. Its all the different religions interpretations of it. Have your beliefs that is fine just stop trying to shove it down everyones throat.

I claim that science has more FACTS than christianity about the world being created.

Which didnt happen without an open mind, and free thinking, and not "believing" that something may not be possible. Keep diggin. A scientist didnt sit there and go "Yep, boats are not possible. I know for a fact something so big cannot float. I have seen rocks sink"

This is rather comical.

I have beliefs about many different things, doesnt mean I am close minded about boats and the way the world works. I don't believe science is the answer to everything in the world, just religion as science has facts about the big bang ect and until proven otherwise I am atheist. It doesnt matter to me how anyone else feels about my opinions as they are solely mine.

Big bang is just as much a myth as religion. Your arguments are still crap. If it doesnt matter, then stop posting. Clueless science person is still clueless

To open your mind you must close your mind to religion, I'll always be closed minded to religion because all religion does is put a mythical answer to an unknown question, its just an easy solution even if its the wrong solution. Once you close your mind to religion then you can open your mind to search for the real answers. That is true open mindness.

Which didnt happen without an open mind, and free thinking, and not "believing" that something may not be possible. Keep diggin. A scientist didnt sit there and go "Yep, boats are not possible. I know for a fact something so big cannot float. I have seen rocks sink"

This is rather comical.

I have beliefs about many different things, doesnt mean I am close minded about boats and the way the world works. I don't believe science is the answer to everything in the world, just religion as science has facts about the big bang ect and until proven otherwise I am atheist. It doesnt matter to me how anyone else feels about my opinions as they are solely mine.

Big bang is just as much a myth as religion. Your arguments are still crap. If it doesnt matter, then stop posting. Clueless science person is still clueless

To open your mind you must close your mind to religion, I'll always be closed minded to religion because all religion does is put a mythical answer to an unknown question, its just an easy solution even if its the wrong solution. Once you close your mind to religion then you can open your mind to search for the real answers. That is true open mindness.

i think the only real open-mindedness is to be agnostic. so you can't fully close off religion, because we don't know if it is a fact or not, we just know that it may or may not be.