For cryin' out loud. I eat pasta, fast food and ice cream!
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Good for you, skinny doesn't mean heathy though ... Just sayin' ...
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But those aren't clean foods,therefore you're destroying your health
This is the way I feel too. I won't put anyone down for feeling otherwise, but it's not the lifestyle I choose to live. For me, it's more about WHAT I put in my body and knowing where it came from, how it was processed, etc.
Very true, after being 30 lbs overweight for 20 years, I developed IBS and severe Acid reflux I have found the cure that took me off all meds and cured my acid reflux and IBS.
Eat right and balanced diet, organic, count calories, never eat empty calories.
The biggest single change though I lost 20lbs, a lb a week simply by pretty much eliminating gluten and soda and most dairy.
It wasn't hard at all and the weight is still falling off with very little effort.
I try to use Paleo as a guide, Proteins, Vegs, Fruits, nuts, berries, very little rice or potatoes. No juice, eat the fruit and drink the water.... NO EMPTY CALORIES. My blood pressure also fell right in line as the weight came off.
Sure I cheat a few times a month, like next week I'm going to NYC and you can bet I'll have some Patsys pizza.
Still use 3 tablespoons of HalfnHalf in my coffee
You are what you eat though and at 56 I can tell you it is true. 10 more lbs and I'll be at my 185 weight (6'2") from 1974.
I've found with no more loss than alb a week it really stays off. A lot of you are really too young to figure out the damage you are causing from a gluten and dairy filled diet. As you get older you really understand you reap what you sow.0 -
How many of us started our "diet" by eating clean, only to fail?! I think the post is extremely encouraging to those who have "tried everything".
Of course clean eating is the ideal way to go, but for many it just won't work. Many people, like me, will find that a slower adaptation to healthier living will last for the long term.
I don't think her post was rude at all. And if it's wasn't PC enough for you- please! Seriously?? She's just told a lot of people that they CAN do it. Some minor changes in their lifestyle can make a world of difference.
This! I agree with everything you say! This is the first time I've tried to loose weight and even though I'm not eating healthy I'm getting healthier than I used to be. In just 4 more pounds I'll be at a healthy BMI. If I tried to count macros along with calories I would drive myself crazy and I know I wouldn't stick to this. So until I reach my first goal I'll be eating pasta, dinner roles, and candy bars. After that I'll make a slow transition to 'healthy'.
To some others: People who eat like me KNOW it's not healthy or ideal but it's a start.
To the OP: Thank you for bringing this up. So many people give up on diets because some people tell them they have to eat a certain way and they become discouraged.0 -
I'm so tired of seeing "I can't eat pasta. I can't eat fast food. I can't eat ice cream. I can't eat fruit. I can't have this. I can't have that."
First things first.. you dont need to be nasty about it.
Secondly, there are many people who have serious medical problems that warrant the elimination of those types of foods. I have patients who have such issues who use MFP for tracking under the physician's advice.
Then you have people who come out and admit that they dont have control when they eat those types of foods thus they do their best not to have them.
So yes, there are people who legitimately cant have those types of foods.
I wasn't talking about people with health issues. If you have a realistic health issue (ie-diabetes) you are excluded from this conversation. I'm talking about normal, everyday people who are basically overall in good health who just THINK they can't have "normal" food.
An estimated 20% of people in the US have insulin resistance. Most of these people are overweight. So the percentage of people on MFP that have insulin resistance is most likely higher than 20%. When you have insulin resistance, your body doesn't digest carbs the way the body of someone without insulin resistance does. It's best to follow a low carb, high protein diet when you have insulin resistance. Sooooo those people CAN'T have ice cream, pasta, pizza, etc on a normal basis and be successful at losing weight.
So although you say you weren't talking about "those people", a lot of "those people" are on this site.
Full fat ice cream is low GI and glycemic load, but is unclean so shouldn't be eaten anyways. And dairy is terrible for you cause Paleo man didn't eat it.
I'm one of "those" people. And I'm doing just fine with moderation. I still eat ice cream, I drink beer, I f*ckin love cheese. Six months ago I was pre-diabetic, as of last week I no longer am. I am still insulin resistant, but I deal with it much better by balancing things out. Life's too short to deprive yourself of everything you love so there's value in experimenting and finding what works for you, and allows you to still live your life. That's why we're ultimately doing this, isn't it? To live?0 -
I agree with the general premise here - don't deprive yourself. Last month I was craving wendys like hell, so I went, bought, and ate, and went to the gym and burned off over 700 calories that I ate there.
That said the OP does bother me because I am working hard at cleaning up my (and my husbands since I do most of the cooking and meal planning for us) eating. I do always feel gross after I eat crappy food - or overeat in general. It's a gradual thing and yes sometimes I opt for the lower calorie version over the "cleaner" version. (I still feel like I broke a cardinal rule by putting low calorie butter substitute in mashed potatoes instead of real butter tonight, haha. ) So I feel like something that should be a goal for a lot of us here is just being thrown out as cliche when its a very real thing a lot of people are working towards.
Ultimately this whole thing is just about getting to you know yourself (at least it is for me) and finding out what works for you. Some people need a little treat every day, some of us have one or two cheat days or meals a week... Different styles work better for different people and all should be respected equally. 0 -
Preach it sista!
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I'm so tired of seeing "I can't eat pasta. I can't eat fast food. I can't eat ice cream. I can't eat fruit. I can't have this. I can't have that."
First things first.. you dont need to be nasty about it.
Secondly, there are many people who have serious medical problems that warrant the elimination of those types of foods. I have patients who have such issues who use MFP for tracking under the physician's advice.
Then you have people who come out and admit that they dont have control when they eat those types of foods thus they do their best not to have them.
So yes, there are people who legitimately cant have those types of foods.
I wasn't talking about people with health issues. If you have a realistic health issue (ie-diabetes) you are excluded from this conversation. I'm talking about normal, everyday people who are basically overall in good health who just THINK they can't have "normal" food.
An estimated 20% of people in the US have insulin resistance. Most of these people are overweight. So the percentage of people on MFP that have insulin resistance is most likely higher than 20%. When you have insulin resistance, your body doesn't digest carbs the way the body of someone without insulin resistance does. It's best to follow a low carb, high protein diet when you have insulin resistance. Sooooo those people CAN'T have ice cream, pasta, pizza, etc on a normal basis and be successful at losing weight.
So although you say you weren't talking about "those people", a lot of "those people" are on this site.
Full fat ice cream is low GI and glycemic load, but is unclean so shouldn't be eaten anyways. And dairy is terrible for you cause Paleo man didn't eat it.
Full fat ice cream is unclean?? Its alot healthier for you than the low fat or non fat kind thats nothing but chemicals and toxins. But anyway, Ill let that one slide, what I really wanted to point out is although full fat ice cream may be low GI and glycemic, it still has high carbs and carbs = insulin spike.
It's unclean because it's processed. The fat in the ice cream lowers the insulin spike. Don't forget protein = insulin spike too
Ummm...protein=insulin spike? On Mars?0 -
FOOD DOES NOT EQUAL HAPPINESS!!!!! People on here say, well I eat those foods because I don't want to give them up. what's the point of being skinny if you are not happy..... STOP BEING IN DENIAL, YOU ARE ALREADY NOT HAPPY, THAT IS WHY YOU ARE ON THIS SITE FOR THE MOST PART. You will be happy because you will be healthy, your body will be working perfectly and you will have the energy to do other things, rather than dwelling on the candies that you are not "allowed" to eat. The whole point is to be healthy. Skinny people have heart attacks too you know. They have cellulite and digestive problems.... the list goes on. Your goal should not be to be skinny, you should aim to be healthy.
I love this response. Food does NOT equal happiness for everyone. Some of us can happily live without ice cream, pasta, fast food and burritos. Some of us (like me) cannot have even a bite of one of those things without paying for it health wise for days and days.0 -
I eat everything and anything I want to, but I exercise and weigh my food out or make sure that portions are even. You want cake with frosting on it, make cupcakes, one box of mix is 12 cupcakes and 1 cupcake is a serving. Also eat 5 or 6 small meals. I usually try to keep my meals to about 300 calories per meal and eat 5 meals per day. I try to keep my calories between 1200 and 1500 calories. If I am gonna have pizza or something else "bad" for me, I make sure that I work out well and do a high intensity work out. There was a time when I could eat an entire large pizza in on setting, now 2 slices of a medium and I am full. It takes time, and as you make your portions smaller, your body will adjust to it. Another thing that helps is using smaller plates, at least for me it has.0
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I work at night and find that is the time when my craving for chocolate kicks in. I can have a pantry full of junk at home and I don't touch any of it. I just dont feel like eating it. But when I get to work the craving monster hits. Saying that I sometimes find that if I buy the chocolate bar and leave it on my desk, I don't eat it. I think I just get the need to buy it, but not eat it.....funny huh!0
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I'm so tired of seeing "I can't eat pasta. I can't eat fast food. I can't eat ice cream. I can't eat fruit. I can't have this. I can't have that."
First things first.. you dont need to be nasty about it.
Secondly, there are many people who have serious medical problems that warrant the elimination of those types of foods. I have patients who have such issues who use MFP for tracking under the physician's advice.
Then you have people who come out and admit that they dont have control when they eat those types of foods thus they do their best not to have them.
So yes, there are people who legitimately cant have those types of foods.
I wasn't talking about people with health issues. If you have a realistic health issue (ie-diabetes) you are excluded from this conversation. I'm talking about normal, everyday people who are basically overall in good health who just THINK they can't have "normal" food.
An estimated 20% of people in the US have insulin resistance. Most of these people are overweight. So the percentage of people on MFP that have insulin resistance is most likely higher than 20%. When you have insulin resistance, your body doesn't digest carbs the way the body of someone without insulin resistance does. It's best to follow a low carb, high protein diet when you have insulin resistance. Sooooo those people CAN'T have ice cream, pasta, pizza, etc on a normal basis and be successful at losing weight.
So although you say you weren't talking about "those people", a lot of "those people" are on this site.
Full fat ice cream is low GI and glycemic load, but is unclean so shouldn't be eaten anyways. And dairy is terrible for you cause Paleo man didn't eat it.
Full fat ice cream is unclean?? Its alot healthier for you than the low fat or non fat kind thats nothing but chemicals and toxins. But anyway, Ill let that one slide, what I really wanted to point out is although full fat ice cream may be low GI and glycemic, it still has high carbs and carbs = insulin spike.
It's unclean because it's processed. The fat in the ice cream lowers the insulin spike. Don't forget protein = insulin spike too
Ummm...protein=insulin spike? On Mars?
Here on Earth, unlike in some fantasy world some people live in where protein is not insulinogenic. I suspect in the same fantasy world, unicorns roam and cry rainbow tears0 -
Me too- thanks for posting!!!!!0
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I'm so tired of seeing "I can't eat pasta. I can't eat fast food. I can't eat ice cream. I can't eat fruit. I can't have this. I can't have that."
First things first.. you dont need to be nasty about it.
Secondly, there are many people who have serious medical problems that warrant the elimination of those types of foods. I have patients who have such issues who use MFP for tracking under the physician's advice.
Then you have people who come out and admit that they dont have control when they eat those types of foods thus they do their best not to have them.
So yes, there are people who legitimately cant have those types of foods.
I wasn't talking about people with health issues. If you have a realistic health issue (ie-diabetes) you are excluded from this conversation. I'm talking about normal, everyday people who are basically overall in good health who just THINK they can't have "normal" food.
An estimated 20% of people in the US have insulin resistance. Most of these people are overweight. So the percentage of people on MFP that have insulin resistance is most likely higher than 20%. When you have insulin resistance, your body doesn't digest carbs the way the body of someone without insulin resistance does. It's best to follow a low carb, high protein diet when you have insulin resistance. Sooooo those people CAN'T have ice cream, pasta, pizza, etc on a normal basis and be successful at losing weight.
So although you say you weren't talking about "those people", a lot of "those people" are on this site.
Full fat ice cream is low GI and glycemic load, but is unclean so shouldn't be eaten anyways. And dairy is terrible for you cause Paleo man didn't eat it.
Full fat ice cream is unclean?? Its alot healthier for you than the low fat or non fat kind thats nothing but chemicals and toxins. But anyway, Ill let that one slide, what I really wanted to point out is although full fat ice cream may be low GI and glycemic, it still has high carbs and carbs = insulin spike.
It's unclean because it's processed. The fat in the ice cream lowers the insulin spike. Don't forget protein = insulin spike too
Ummm...protein=insulin spike? On Mars?
Right here on planet Earth. Insulin is necessary for tissue protein synthesis, and in conjunction with amino acids, has a net anabolic effect.0 -
I find that the weekend is the time when I don't bother with the plan. This is a family meal and takeaway time for us and although I do keep my portions down I do not miss out. Once Monday hits, then it is back to the plan and watching my calories. Allow yourself a day or two to be normal (well to let loose) and then start again. Don't kick yourself, sometimes you just need to do it.0
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How many of us started our "diet" by eating clean, only to fail?! I think the post is extremely encouraging to those who have "tried everything".
Of course clean eating is the ideal way to go, but for many it just won't work. Many people, like me, will find that a slower adaptation to healthier living will last for the long term.
I don't think her post was rude at all. And if it's wasn't PC enough for you- please! Seriously?? She's just told a lot of people that they CAN do it. Some minor changes in their lifestyle can make a world of difference.
Argeed...
I dont remember reading in the original post that EVERYBODY on MFP had to read her post and try and apply what was written to themselves. You CAN do it, you dont have to...
If you dont like what the OP has to say, move on, dont stress about it... you'll live longer. Stress is super bad for you.0 -
FatgutBgone I ate all those things today and tomorrow I go back to the gym. I eat the more healthy versions now like whole wheat pasta, ground chicken meat and sugar free ice cream. Also everything in moderation.0
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We sometimes go out to an all you can eat Chinese buffet, order pizza n wings, as long as I can have them in moderation I will be good, n anyway I work my butt off for the extras. 0
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That is the BEST thing I have herd in a LONG time!!!!!! Depriving yourself can really only lead to possible over eating...the "evil" foods. Moderation IS best....even Jillian says that........."dont deprive"
I just LOVE how you put this into perspective though... I really got a giggle & a smile out of it And honestly it made me feel SO much better about my food choices today, for dinner I had broasted potatoes NOW...........I dont feel so guilty about it
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Me to. I did the low carb off and on lose and gain game for a while til I gave uo. Now I eat everything only now I have so many of what I now call treats, apples, bananas, veggies galore, and with garden coming on I will have plenty but it will fit in 0
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I totally believe in eating what you like ..... as long as you practice portion control. I don't think I could stay with my "diet" if all I ate was rice cakes and raw veggies. I have read other people say " Lifestyle Change" which I fully agree with. Life does not always allow you to eat your "diet" foods all the time. You have to learn how to eat everyday foods in moderation to fit your new healthier lifestyle.
The problem is the word diet. "Diet" foods are actually foods that are good for your body and fuel them in a positive way. "Every day" foods are what made industries rich and the public in poor health.
^This! People think that fast food, bleached white bread, and processed food is "normal", when it's really not and it's a new (past 50 years or so) thing. There are *so* many health advances in the medical world, so why are people cropping up with odd health issues more often? Because we feed ourselves chemicals. I look at "health/diet food" like chicken, rice, vegetables, etc, as normal food, and the processed chemically laced food as "junk/occasional" food. I might still crave brownies and chips and sugar and empty calories, but I *feel* better when the majority of my diet comes from things that don't make me sick. Eating healthy doesn't necessarily mean low cal either! I even consider things like beef, milk, and cheese health foods as long as they're not kraft singles slices or mcdonalds burgers.0 -
We are so obsessed with food. It's very simple; our body is like a machine and uses food as fuel. Give it junk and eventually it doesn't run as well. It's like giving a car bad gas.0
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You said some where in all these pages that you are pregnant? Small suggestion: add a sodium column and a calcium column to your food log. The baby will take the nutrients first and without the proper calcium, the baby will take it from your bones. And too much sodium will make ankles swell. NOT saying that will happen to you but just a suggestion. Also, get some fresh fruit and fresh veggies in!! ; ) Good luck with your pregnancy and weight loss!0
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How do you control yourself with portions? The more I exercise, the more I can't control myself because my cravings get intensified. Example, I burn 200 calories, I was going to eat one cookie, but then I end up eating 1,000 calories worth of food in addition to that one cookie.
It helps to eat your treats as sllooooooowwwllllyyyy as possible. Savour every bite like it's your last
And to the OP, I respect your rant. Express yourself! Hey hey hey hey !0 -
IF IT FITS YOUR MACROS, GOD BLESS YA0
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Oh man, I love those 1000 calorie burritos from Chipotle!
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Thank you OP
Just bought my low fat ice cream & will be eating some high GI white rice with other stuff for dinner. I'm glad that I won't get fat overnight because of this.
IIFYM for sure.0 -
But those aren't clean foods,therefore you're destroying your health
This times 1,000,000!0 -
But those aren't clean foods,therefore you're destroying your health
This times 1,000,000!
What is this "clean" you speak of?0 -
thanks for sharing this, makes me feel good to know you don't have to eat like a rabbit to achieve your goals.0
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But those aren't clean foods,therefore you're destroying your health
Exactly. Its not about just being within your calorie range. It's about being healthy, too. At least for me it is!
But if I only eat 100% healthy foods, I can't meet my calorie goals. So I gotta eat a mixture of healthy and not-so-healthy-but-okay-in-moderation foods. >.<
Do you eat nuts? Avocado? Whole grains? There are plenty of high calorie healthy whole food options.
WHY do some people who THINK they are eating "Clean" and /or Healthy believe that High Allergen foods (NUTS, Dairy, Whole Grain/Gluten, Soy, even fish and shell fish...) ARE HEALTHY for EVERYONE!!!? People need to start to use COMMON SENSE and whatever Works for them, and they want to Do it...Then "More Power To You!"
I just hope people know that all these EXCESSIVE Exercise Routines are NOT sustainable; not only that, they cause joint, muscle and tissue damage, and Running is one of the worse exercises you can do. So, choose what you will...to eat and to exercise, come 45+ you will PAY for it. You don't see people over 45 going much for the Extremes, because they did it, know it is not sustainable and many are now paying for the BAD Extreme choices they made at a younger age. The arthritis, back problems, muscle damage, foot problems, stomach problems, cancers...SoOoOoO, choose your poison NOW, we'll see the RESULTS at 40+ y.o.
STICK with Moderation in All Things and as you age you will be able to make "Shifts" (in diet and exercise, and Life) Easier. But hey, I was told that too, when I was younger...didn't listen, paying for it...So, knock yourselves out! Do Extreme Everything!0
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