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  • Ayla70
    Ayla70 Posts: 284 Member
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    So here's my completely irrelevant position on this situation..

    I can completely understand the OPs frustrations and think it's good for a person to vent from time to time. I recently took in my two nieces and my nephew because my sister was deemed unfit by the state. Unfortunately, before now I haven't had a lot of time with my nieces and nephew aside from holidays. I was completely oblivious to the fact that my sister was struggling with addiction. I've been in the military and have been out of state since I turned 18. I'm 25, single, and now all of a sudden a parent to a 6 year old, a 9 year old, and a 12 year old. I had to put college on hold so I could take care of the children. I have to wait an extra year now to reenter the physical therapy assistant program I was in. There was just no way I could manage school, work, and the 3 kids when they first moved into my household. Things around here can be tough because It's me and only me. When they moved in they had absolutely no manners and hadn't had any type of structure for the longest time. I've worked really hard with the children on their behavior. The children can devour food. I've really struggled keeping food in the cabinets on my limited budget. I do buy the kids snacks.. and not always the healthiest stuff. I now have rules set up in the household. I am really strict about what comes out of the fridge and the pantry. Nothing gets eaten without asking first. $75 dollar per week is a tight budget and I'm sure the OP is aware of that but sometimes you can only do the best you can. I feed the 4 of us for around $100 per week. Our budget is what I would consider shoe string. My job is't the greatest job especially since I've had to cut my hours to be home when I need to for them. I am squeezing every penny I can. I buy what's on sale and I use a lot of coupons. It's been almost 6 months and I haven't received any aid from the state yet. I should be getting my first check next month. It will be close to around 500 dollars. That will definitely make things easier around here. It will at least cover groceries for the 3 kids.

    Don't get me wrong.. this post is a rant.. and I AM b*tching. Not at anything in particular. Not at my sister. Not at the children. Not at the state who has taken their sweet time helping with aide. I am just *****ing because sometimes it's all I can do to keep from going crazy. Life's hard.. lol.

    With that said, I love my nieces and nephew. I will continue to support them and raise them like my own as long as necessary. They have been a handful but I love them with all of my heart.

    ... *Exhale* Rant Over.

    Your nieces and nephew are very lucky to have such an amazing uncle, you're doing a fab job!

    ^^ This...

    Young man you have my respect :flowerforyou:
  • mbajrami
    mbajrami Posts: 636 Member
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    So here's my completely irrelevant position on this situation..

    I can completely understand the OPs frustrations and think it's good for a person to vent from time to time. I recently took in my two nieces and my nephew because my sister was deemed unfit by the state. Unfortunately, before now I haven't had a lot of time with my nieces and nephew aside from holidays. I was completely oblivious to the fact that my sister was struggling with addiction. I've been in the military and have been out of state since I turned 18. I'm 25, single, and now all of a sudden a parent to a 6 year old, a 9 year old, and a 12 year old. I had to put college on hold so I could take care of the children. I have to wait an extra year now to reenter the physical therapy assistant program I was in. There was just no way I could manage school, work, and the 3 kids when they first moved into my household. Things around here can be tough because It's me and only me. When they moved in they had absolutely no manners and hadn't had any type of structure for the longest time. I've worked really hard with the children on their behavior. The children can devour food. I've really struggled keeping food in the cabinets on my limited budget. I do buy the kids snacks.. and not always the healthiest stuff. I now have rules set up in the household. I am really strict about what comes out of the fridge and the pantry. Nothing gets eaten without asking first. $75 dollar per week is a tight budget and I'm sure the OP is aware of that but sometimes you can only do the best you can. I feed the 4 of us for around $100 per week. Our budget is what I would consider shoe string. My job is't the greatest job especially since I've had to cut my hours to be home when I need to for them. I am squeezing every penny I can. I buy what's on sale and I use a lot of coupons. It's been almost 6 months and I haven't received any aid from the state yet. I should be getting my first check next month. It will be close to around 500 dollars. That will definitely make things easier around here. It will at least cover groceries for the 3 kids.

    Don't get me wrong.. this post is a rant.. and I AM b*tching. Not at anything in particular. Not at my sister. Not at the children. Not at the state who has taken their sweet time helping with aide. I am just *****ing because sometimes it's all I can do to keep from going crazy. Life's hard.. lol.

    With that said, I love my nieces and nephew. I will continue to support them and raise them like my own as long as necessary. They have been a handful but I love them with all of my heart.

    ... *Exhale* Rant Over.

    Your nieces and nephew are very lucky to have such an amazing uncle, you're doing a fab job!

    ^^ This...

    Young man you have my respect :flowerforyou:

    Yes, I agree. You are awesome.
  • jgarrisond
    jgarrisond Posts: 44 Member
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    My kids do the same thing..It drives me crazy, on Sunday I bought 20 containers of yogurt since they were on sale 20 for $10, when I came home from work on Monday they were all gone..I have to go to the grocery store every night or they will eat everything I buy.
  • kayleec2
    kayleec2 Posts: 14
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  • immeagain
    immeagain Posts: 16
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  • skybird455
    skybird455 Posts: 172 Member
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    I buy 2 dozen eggs at a time. Each kid get 4 eggs when I cook them.
    If I don't make homemade noodles I'll buy whole wheat spaghetti and make double (2#) ..enough for 10-12 ppl. They don't finish that.
    But they'll go back 30 minutes later and eat 8 mini bags of Doritos, each.

    I just don't get it. Even when the junk food is gone, they wont eat. All I hear is "I'm hungry! I'm starving!" But there is GOOD food there!

    I am seriously thinking I'm getting a locking cabinet.


    I bought yogurt for myself to increase my calcium because milk upsets my stomach. Got 40 of them last Monday (of last week) by Tues at noon I went in for my snack, not a single one was left.
    Its getting bad. One or 2 I don't care. But 3 kids, 40 yogurts in under 24 hours?



    I have 3 boys....they eat a ton! this problem is easily solved. DONT BUY THE JUNKY SNACKS such as chips and popcorn...thats the issue for you so STOP BUYING IT. Then they will eat what you cook....

    nuff said
  • deeharley
    deeharley Posts: 1,208 Member
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    They are 11, 13, 14. I don't have a problem with the "if u don't eat dinner u can go without" I was raised that way.
    I don't work, I'm disabled. Telling them to stay out of the kitchen is like expecting to win a lottery.
    Boys are sneaky

    Guess I'll just get a locking cabinet. I don't like the idea of having to lock up food. But it's getting out of control.

    11, 13 and 14 year old boys are DEFINITELY old enough to make their own dinner. Mine are 12,13 and 15 and have been cooking for years. If keeping them out of the cupboards doesn't work, try the opposite - quit making them dinner. Make enough for whoever does eat, and leave the rest in the freezer. If they are hungry, they can find something to cook.

    That is also an age where it is not unhealthy or unrealistic for boys to be starving all the time. While my two youngest have to ask for food, the oldest has the run of the kitchen, with the stipulation that he ask if I'm saving the food he wants for something. At 6'1" and 150 pounds, with an active lifestyle, he needs about 2,400 calories a day just to maintain his weight.

    It does sound like you have a serious respect issue here, and locking the cabinets may not be a bad idea, though if they are as sneaky as you say, they will just pick the locks.
  • amsohs85
    amsohs85 Posts: 166
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    I spend $175 a week to feed three adults, a 15yr old, a 3 yr old and and a toddler. Thats a good week...lol! Healthy foods tend to be more expensive but i bargain shop and know which stores have the best prices for certain items. If my kids want treats i bake them because prepackaged goodies are expensive. Stop buying the junk and they will eat what they are served..period!! Also kids are notorious for eating when they are bored which is a terrible habit to encourage. If they are eating three decent meals a day they will not starve if they dont have snacks. Kids will push the limits when allowed so its time to put your foot down. Best of luck!!
  • lunagirl818
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    I am not going to repeat te stop buying junk food thing.

    the thing is you as the parent keep saying they have no control.

    it is your job to teach them control and to have consequences.

    frankly, the fact you have screamed at them, tried to punish etc already indicates they have a lack of respect for you and what you are doing in the household.
  • m_wilh
    m_wilh Posts: 362 Member
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    Recoiljpr...... if they would EAT the food I made and not ALL the snacks and junk and treats in one or two days I wouldn't care.

    Well, then don't get snacks for a few weeks and only give them plenty of food you cook. They will eat it, I promise they won't starve. :-)

    Yeah, it sucks you can't keep a few treats for yourself, but for now that's really your only choice. Show them you mean business by not buying a single snack food for a while. They will get the picture.

    ^^^^This. And trust me. As the mom to 4 sons, I know EXACTLY how much a boy can eat which is a TON! However, if you quit supplying the snacks, they'll have no choice but to eat what is fixed. As for buying a locking cabinet, save your money. Put YOUR snacks in the closet and DARE them to touch it. If they do, there should be swift and serious penalty (whatever you feel is appropriate.) Our boys respect my boundaries. I have food in my closet for my husband because he works 12-hour night shifts. Our sons know to leave it alone and it isn't a problem. Also, the snacks I provide for my boys mainly are fruits/veggies. They eat eggs or oatmeal (not the instant but the kind you have to cook). It sustains them for hours. They rarely snack between breakfast and lunch. Cereal is expensive and the other two options will stretch your money a little farther. If you provide a lot of processed junk food, they'll naturally eat more as it is loaded with sugar and empty carbs which makes them hungrier.
  • m_wilh
    m_wilh Posts: 362 Member
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    I am not going to repeat te stop buying junk food thing.

    the thing is you as the parent keep saying they have no control.

    it is your job to teach them control and to have consequences.

    frankly, the fact you have screamed at them, tried to punish etc already indicates they have a lack of respect for you and what you are doing in the household.

    ^^^^This too!!!
  • immeagain
    immeagain Posts: 16
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    Locking up the food or not buying the food will not solve the problem. Discipline and teaching respect will solve the problem. You're looking for a solution beyond the obvious one that is not an easy task, but cannot be overlooked. If you're not confident in your own ability to discipline your children's habits, then they won't be confident in your ability to do so either, and this overindulgence and misbehavior will continue.

    If you want to eat popcorn, jello and occasional ramen, you should be able too. In fact, if you DO wish to eat ice cream and cake and huge bags of doritos and brownies, you should be able to do that. (Not saying you want too, but just saying that WHAT the food is, is actually a moot point). The point is that your kids should be respectful of your food choices, your finances and overall simply what you wish for them to eat (which is nothing too crazy, just proper meals).

    That being said, you really should get to the root of the issue by seeking ways that would teach your kids to listen to what you say. That might seem like a daunting task with adolescent boys (and adolescents in general -- I was one not incredibly long ago) but if you let them do whatever they want, you are going to go through grief and frustration like you are now and they will continue with disrespectful habits as they grow older as well.

    You noted that you tried a handful of different ways to make them stop. Were you persistent about it? Did you continue with consistency, or give up in frustration? Just like with losing weight, change comes when people are uncomfortable. Your children need to be uncomfortable for an extended period of time to learn that they need to change their behavior. You can't ground them for a day or two from video games or internet and expect them to learn a lesson. Be persistent in your approach and if you give in or give up, you are sending them the message that you aren't serious and that they truly can get away with what they wish.

    This has to be about more than food for you. You have to have the desire in your to teach your kids the proper way to live in a household and the proper ways to eat. I can tell by your messages that you truly DO wish to teach your kids the proper ways to eat (b/l/d and not merely snacks). You just have to build up enough strength and persistence in this pursuit to make a true change. Seek resources, research advice on children at that age: become friends with Moms on here that can offer you support (or anyone to offer support, for that matter).

    Best wishes :-)

    this!! Kids need limits and they need to learn respect, especially before they get any older!! They should respect the fact that you are on a budget, get them involved!!
  • sizzle92
    sizzle92 Posts: 1,015 Member
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    My 8 year old just came and asked when dinner was. I said when dad and dss got home. Maybe an hour. I asked if he was hungry and he said "yes" I offered carrotts and strawberries. He chose to wait. (he WILL eat those when hungry, he loves them) He is happily playing in his room now. You think if I offered chips he would have said no? Exactly.
  • supplemama
    supplemama Posts: 1,956 Member
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    You poor thing. I know how you feel, we have 2 teenage sons and they can eat like you wouldn't believe. But they eat what we give them, which is good, solid, nutritious food. I rarely buy snack foods. For snacks they usually eat lots of fruit and sandwiches, and freezer pops in the summer. I do keep popcorn in the house but it's old school kernels; you have to cook it on the stove (we don't have a microwave and zero interest in getting one). My sons are free to spend their allowance on junk food if they wish, but ha ha when it comes to their money they want to spend it on other things. This week we are on vacation so bought lots of snack-type stuff for on the road. I'm the one mostly eating it LOL!

    Stop buying the snack food and replace it with fruit and veggies. They can't eat up what's not there, and you won't waste money on junk they don't need anyway.
  • OnionMomma
    OnionMomma Posts: 938 Member
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    I understand that it's frustrating and can be expensive, but they are boys, it's their nature.

    I have two boys myself. My situation is quite different, although MUCH more expensive. My children have Cystic Fibrosis ("CF"). CF breaks every rule you've ever learned about nutrition, healthy eating etc. My children cannot digest fats, proteins etc and have to take enzymes in order to do so, although, they aren't fully digested as your body normally would on it's own, so I have to PLY my kids with HOARDS of food, just to keep them at a healthy weight. If they drop weight, they become more susceptible to infections, that can ultimately cause death in them because of their ailment.

    I'm a single mother. My ex-husband decided that this disease, and family life just 'wasn't for him" and he "wanted carefree living". I'm on my own with this. I find it extremely expensive, but these are my kids. Money is nothing. I'll spend my entire paycheck and live with nothing if it means I can feed my kids, keep them healthy, and keep them alive.

    Your kids are healthy, growing boys. As hard financially as it may seem sometimes, feel blessed that they are nourished. That they are able to fill themselves, ingest food, digest food, and remain healthy.

    I would give all the money in the world to be able to say that.

    ^^^ this puts it in perspective. I can't imagine :(

    I can second this.

    My son was feeding tube dependent for almost 3 years due to medical issues he was born with.

    I am still not over the wonder of that fact that he eats, I take pictures of him all the time stuffing his face. It is a magical thing to behold.

    Growing boys will eat you out of house and home, it's just to be expected. It happened in my house growing up and my husband's house as well.

    I really don't think there will be a way you will be able to stop them from eating. It's what boys do at that age.

    That aside, someone mentioned pasta. I would def. say, feed them pasta. It's cheap and will fill them for longer, hopefully. :laugh:
  • veganbaum
    veganbaum Posts: 1,865 Member
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    This isn't going to add anything new, but I think it's worth repeating a few pieces of advice.

    1. Get a whiteboard on which you make the weekly menu so the kids can see what each food item is for. (I think this was a great idea that another poster had.)

    2. Give them each their own shelf/container for snacks - dry and/or in the fridge. Each day these get filled up. The kids can eat whatever they want from their boxes that day. After that they must ask for other snacks (or possibly they eat their box snacks and after that they can have something like one peanut butter and jelly sandwich without asking, but not within a certain amount of time before/after meals). If they are eating other food without asking, there must be a CONSISTENT consequence.

    3. Keep the weekly popcorn and chip snacks locked up - in your room, in a cabinet, in your car - whatever, but the kids won't even see them until it's time to eat them according to your weekly menu.

    4. As so many have suggested, serve them their portion for each meal, if they don't eat it all wrap it up or place it in a container and when they start complaining about hunger in half an hour, give them their leftovers, period.

    5. Keep buying your yogurts or whatever for you. If they eat them while also implementing these other methods, they need a consequence.

    It does not sound as though your children are starving, it sounds like they have respect and boundary issues. Consistency is key - that's where discipline issues come from, a lot of parents will say one thing but not remain consistent with it. You and your husband are the parents, the children need to respect the house rules, period. It's going to be a long, hard road trying to correct behaviors. But it seems like implementing some structure with food and following through with consequences is needed. This is not being a hard *kitten* or a b****, it's being a parent. And it's not about restricting food, either. They can have snacks, but they have to follow the house rules. It's not child abuse to not allow your child to eat whenever and whatever they choose, so long as they are getting the nutrition they need.
  • KeriW626
    KeriW626 Posts: 430
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    I agree with most the people I read, kinda. I dont think you should stop the snacks. But you should change them to the healthy kind of snacks you would eat, fresh fruit, veggies etc. The yogurt problem is where your personal fridge, in your room out of their way comes in. Lock it . Kerrp them out of your room. If they need a battery go get it. They wont need one as often if you dont have a box of micro popcorn or other snacks. You cant make cookies or muffins, quick breads for them to snack on. And when they run out they are gone.

    My mom was constanty on diets and got mad when we ate "her" diet food. With my kids they eat what I eat. I dont buy the junk food. I have a garden with all the cubumber you could want. I always keep fresh fruit around. Daughters eat alot of food when they are teens as do boys. My daughters even brought their friends home. But having learned how to make candy from their grandmother.. Thats how they spent their time. then they shared it with everyone there. Split it up and sent shares home.

    I dont understand the 75$. You must use coupons and sales ads. I did that when I had kids, It helped alot. Today since starting on MFP my grocery bill has dropped in half. I spend more than you. There are only two of us. Good luck.
  • KeriW626
    KeriW626 Posts: 430
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    and yes I've busted their *kitten*


    they must be pre teens or younger. I cant imagine busting a teens *kitten*. Maybe do what my mother in law did, just bust them in the mouth with a wooden spoon? Hubby has a nice chunk of tooth missing. But he eats everything you put in front of him like it or not. I think with MFP he is learning better. We will know when we go to visit the in laws, and mom puts extra food in front of him. I will leave is she breaks out the wooden spoon. He is soon to be 50.
  • jerbear67
    jerbear67 Posts: 247 Member
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    From what I can tell your kids have turned into spoiled rotten brats that have taken control of you. You need to regain control of your household by buying only the food used to prepare the meals for the week. Prepare them and if they don't like what you have cooked then tough they go "hungry". Don't bring "treats" into the house and they will eat what you have prepared.
  • lil_bit_crazy
    lil_bit_crazy Posts: 161 Member
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    Ok lots of good suggestions. Great! I will get a huge desk calendar instead of a white board because they can't erase the calendar.

    Also for those saying stop giving snacks give fruit or veggies ..THAT is what our snacks.are.
    I don't buy chips and popcorn to just eat at any time. The chips are specifically for Burger nite (usually Saturdays) and that's it. Popcorn is one nite a week for movie nite. Since I DO buy mostly in bulk, it easier to get the big box of popcorn rather than 1 or 2 small ones each week. That's the "junk" I refer to.

    We sat tonight and went over rules again. I informed them the rest of this week we will eat the same thing every day because they've eaten everything else. And they have been told if it happened ONCE more, I'm buying beans n rice and NOTHING ELSE for a month. Breakfast lunch dinner is beans n rice. The pantry locks are the next step.

    Yes I admit they are brats. And to whoever said hit them in the mouth with a spoon, that IS child abuse. They get *kitten* whipped when needed.
    They are healthy. They just have no control.

    ***please before you comment, read all my replies and see if I've addressed whatever you are going to say. The whole junk food fruit veggie healthy snack thing is getting old.

    There are also pictures on one of the pages. You can see for yourself my kids aren't starving that they really are just little.
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