225/135 Max-Rep Bench Press "Club"
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Really? If I can complete my sets of such and such a weight in strict form then I go up 5-10 and carry on without testing - if I am doing a linear program.redfisher1974 wrote: »I test my 1RM every Sunday which is my rest day. If I hit it I add 5 lbs the next week.
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I skipped a lot of this thread (at work) but earlier this year I could do maybe 11-12 reps of 225 and my 1rm was 315.
kinda weird that now i've been focusing on incline dumbbell press and now 185 for 10 is difficult...lol
Based on your profile pictures i would think you could easily surpass 225x10 cuz you look much more beastly than I did when i did 225x10.0 -
Yeah I hear you there. After 100 reps, I am not sure if I haven't been shot.civilizedworm wrote: »
Good advice!civilizedworm wrote: »
Awesome! I bet that's where I will end up.redfisher1974 wrote: »My bet is 10 to 12 for civilizedworm.
Yeah, I am definitely not going to reach 20-25.
Get on the bench, mentally shooting for 20-25.... do as many as you can, rest a tick, do some more, rest a tick, do some more. Do them all. You can rock it.
Rest-pause for the wins!
It's the cornerstone of my coached lifting sessions. He'll set a number and I can't get done until I meet or surpass the number. It really sucks when he says, ok... 100 reps.
Shoot me.
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This thread got pretty interesting.
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Hey thanks for that!accelerashawn wrote: »I skipped a lot of this thread (at work) but earlier this year I could do maybe 11-12 reps of 225 and my 1rm was 315.
kinda weird that now i've been focusing on incline dumbbell press and now 185 for 10 is difficult...lol
Based on your profile pictures i would think you could easily surpass 225x10 cuz you look much more beastly than I did when i did 225x10.
Yeah, if I can get to 15 I will punch the clock and call it day. 20 would be rad, but... probably not realistic.
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I want to start training flat bench again cuz i feel stupid when i incline press 100lb dumbbells but completely suck *kitten* at flat barbell press...haha. barbell is supposed to be easier!
I think I need to relearn the motion i guess. 225 still feels light in my hands but I just can't seem to get it more than 2 or 3 times now.0 -
225? One! One rep!
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accelerashawn wrote: »I want to start training flat bench again cuz i feel stupid when i incline press 100lb dumbbells but completely suck *kitten* at flat barbell press...haha. barbell is supposed to be easier!
I think I need to relearn the motion i guess. 225 still feels light in my hands but I just can't seem to get it more than 2 or 3 times now.
I know a guy that's skinny as hell and looks like he has no muscle. but he could barbell bench about 315 for 1 or 2. He mentioned he was impressed with me doing 85lb dumbbells and I was like wtf? Dude, you bench 315. He said yes but he literally had trouble with even the 50lb dumbbells. Really odd0 -
kelly_e_montana wrote: »In response to the Crossfit scaling percentages for men/women discussion: I do Crossfit too but they don't usually treat bench the same as many other movements for the most part due to the disparity between men and women. Bench is rarely used compared to other lifts (OHP is more common and in fact replaces bench in the their "Total": Squat, DL, & Press). Generally they base Workouts of the Day with bench in them as a percentage of bodyweight or 1 rep max. Really, WODS with bench in them are uncommon and it's more of a skill that people do before the main workout. For example, a scale for deadlifts in a high rep deadlift WOD like Diane would be 225# for men and 155# for women. Yet, if they used a 225# to 155# bench ratio there would be exactly 0 women at my box who could do the workout, including a woman who won the USAPL Raw Nationals powerlifting total in her weight class in 2010.
I found that info quite interesting - thanks for sharing. I've always been curious how Cross-fitters gauge their strength/progress.0 -
Just for reference on muscle fatigue here is a good link for all the known factorshttps://www.inkling.com/read/medical-physiology-boron-boulpaep-2nd/chapter-60/muscle-fatigue.
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they are totally different experiences... I like the dumbbells cuz they take so much more control and coordination. Especially if you pick them up yourself and don't throw them to the ground afterwards.JeffseekingV wrote: »accelerashawn wrote: »I want to start training flat bench again cuz i feel stupid when i incline press 100lb dumbbells but completely suck *kitten* at flat barbell press...haha. barbell is supposed to be easier!
I think I need to relearn the motion i guess. 225 still feels light in my hands but I just can't seem to get it more than 2 or 3 times now.
I know a guy that's skinny as hell and looks like he has no muscle. but he could barbell bench about 315 for 1 or 2. He mentioned he was impressed with me doing 85lb dumbbells and I was like wtf? Dude, you bench 315. He said yes but he literally had trouble with even the 50lb dumbbells. Really odd
I figured that working on the dumbbell press would shoot my barbell figures up...not the case tho. I started working the flat barbell back in though so maybe I can get my high scores back...lol
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That's awesomely interesting! After reading some of that, I feel like I should apologize to my body.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Just for reference on muscle fatigue here is a good link for all the known factorshttps://www.inkling.com/read/medical-physiology-boron-boulpaep-2nd/chapter-60/muscle-fatigue.0 -
accelerashawn wrote: »
they are totally different experiences... I like the dumbbells cuz they take so much more control and coordination. Especially if you pick them up yourself and don't throw them to the ground afterwards.JeffseekingV wrote: »accelerashawn wrote: »I want to start training flat bench again cuz i feel stupid when i incline press 100lb dumbbells but completely suck *kitten* at flat barbell press...haha. barbell is supposed to be easier!
I think I need to relearn the motion i guess. 225 still feels light in my hands but I just can't seem to get it more than 2 or 3 times now.
I know a guy that's skinny as hell and looks like he has no muscle. but he could barbell bench about 315 for 1 or 2. He mentioned he was impressed with me doing 85lb dumbbells and I was like wtf? Dude, you bench 315. He said yes but he literally had trouble with even the 50lb dumbbells. Really odd
I figured that working on the dumbbell press would shoot my barbell figures up...not the case tho. I started working the flat barbell back in though so maybe I can get my high scores back...lol
The db press is much better for that development - and I wouldn't push it aside entirely; hit it on the head with the control and coordination. My humble opinion, a superior workout for the chest but again I wouldn't trade one for the other.
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redfisher1974 wrote: »I test my 1RM every Sunday which is my rest day. If I hit it I add 5 lbs the next week.
not really much of a rest day if you're testing out a one rep max.
also testing that once a week is way over kill and will short circuit your long term training plans/gains.0 -
Hit 10 reps at 135lbs half an hour ago
I've never done my 1RM but now I'm curious - I don't lift weights often though (other than lifting my body weight upside down) 0 -
civilizedworm wrote: »
That's awesomely interesting! After reading some of that, I feel like I should apologize to my body.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Just for reference on muscle fatigue here is a good link for all the known factorshttps://www.inkling.com/read/medical-physiology-boron-boulpaep-2nd/chapter-60/muscle-fatigue.
Lol I feel I should apologize for the years I took off and got fat and obese for a short period.! It likes to punish me still for that.
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Whoa, dark horse coming in with big lift. Good work taryn.0
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Thank you for making seem less crazy with the 135 thing.taryn_caitlin wrote: »Hit 10 reps at 135lbs half an hour ago I've never done my 1RM but now I'm curious - I don't lift weights often though (other than lifting my body weight upside down)
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I whole-heartedly agree. No way i'm gonna stop with the dumbbells...i think its fun to grab the big ones and wobble over to the bench and incline press them, slowly drop them back to my knees...and wobble back over to the rack. I just started doing the flat barbell for a couple sets after the incline db to see if i could get my numbers back close to where they were...then again i don't really care about numbers...lol I just like pushing weight!TFaustino67 wrote: »accelerashawn wrote: »
they are totally different experiences... I like the dumbbells cuz they take so much more control and coordination. Especially if you pick them up yourself and don't throw them to the ground afterwards.JeffseekingV wrote: »accelerashawn wrote: »I want to start training flat bench again cuz i feel stupid when i incline press 100lb dumbbells but completely suck *kitten* at flat barbell press...haha. barbell is supposed to be easier!
I think I need to relearn the motion i guess. 225 still feels light in my hands but I just can't seem to get it more than 2 or 3 times now.
I know a guy that's skinny as hell and looks like he has no muscle. but he could barbell bench about 315 for 1 or 2. He mentioned he was impressed with me doing 85lb dumbbells and I was like wtf? Dude, you bench 315. He said yes but he literally had trouble with even the 50lb dumbbells. Really odd
I figured that working on the dumbbell press would shoot my barbell figures up...not the case tho. I started working the flat barbell back in though so maybe I can get my high scores back...lol
The db press is much better for that development - and I wouldn't push it aside entirely; hit it on the head with the control and coordination. My humble opinion, a superior workout for the chest but again I wouldn't trade one for the other.0 -
Not that I think this is the right way but I do barbell lifts on heavy day and use dumbbells on light chest day.0
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JeffseekingV wrote: »Not that I think this is the right way but I do barbell lifts on heavy day and use dumbbells on light chest day.
If it's working for you who is to say it isn't?0 -
Yeah...its all correct as long as your form is correct...and even if your form sucks you're still working something...haha. (dont have bad form...injury sucks)JeffseekingV wrote: »Not that I think this is the right way but I do barbell lifts on heavy day and use dumbbells on light chest day.
If it's working for you who is to say it isn't?
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Yeah me too. Wasted some really good years of my life on my butt.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »civilizedworm wrote: »
That's awesomely interesting! After reading some of that, I feel like I should apologize to my body.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Just for reference on muscle fatigue here is a good link for all the known factorshttps://www.inkling.com/read/medical-physiology-boron-boulpaep-2nd/chapter-60/muscle-fatigue.
Lol I feel I should apologize for the years I took off and got fat and obese for a short period.! It likes to punish me still for that.
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redfisher1974 wrote: »I test my 1RM every Sunday which is my rest day. If I hit it I add 5 lbs the next week.
not really much of a rest day if you're testing out a one rep max.
also testing that once a week is way over kill and will short circuit your long term training plans/gains.
Works for me. I also take Saturday off.
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Alternately you could use those dumbbells as a pre-exhaust before going barbell - but you'd have to go lighter on the bench, then move to cables to extended work you put on your chest.JeffseekingV wrote: »Not that I think this is the right way but I do barbell lifts on heavy day and use dumbbells on light chest day.0 -
civilizedworm wrote: »
Yeah me too. Wasted some really good years of my life on my butt.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »civilizedworm wrote: »
That's awesomely interesting! After reading some of that, I feel like I should apologize to my body.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Just for reference on muscle fatigue here is a good link for all the known factorshttps://www.inkling.com/read/medical-physiology-boron-boulpaep-2nd/chapter-60/muscle-fatigue.
Lol I feel I should apologize for the years I took off and got fat and obese for a short period.! It likes to punish me still for that.
same... so now I pay the penance.0 -
redfisher1974 wrote: »redfisher1974 wrote: »I test my 1RM every Sunday which is my rest day. If I hit it I add 5 lbs the next week.
not really much of a rest day if you're testing out a one rep max.
also testing that once a week is way over kill and will short circuit your long term training plans/gains.
Works for me. I also take Saturday off.
I'm not advising you to do anything. The two things I said are facts.
Testing 1rpm =/= rest day
Testing 1 rpm weekly will stall your training.
You may chose to do whatever you wish with that information.
But they are with out unquestionably true.0 -
That's currently what i do. incline db, flat bb, cables cables cablescivilizedworm wrote: »
Alternately you could use those dumbbells as a pre-exhaust before going barbell - but you'd have to go lighter on the bench, then move to cables to extended work you put on your chest.JeffseekingV wrote: »Not that I think this is the right way but I do barbell lifts on heavy day and use dumbbells on light chest day.
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redfisher1974 wrote: »redfisher1974 wrote: »I test my 1RM every Sunday which is my rest day. If I hit it I add 5 lbs the next week.
not really much of a rest day if you're testing out a one rep max.
also testing that once a week is way over kill and will short circuit your long term training plans/gains.
Works for me. I also take Saturday off.
I'm not advising you to do anything. The two things I said are facts.
Testing 1rpm =/= rest day
Testing 1 rpm weekly will stall your training.
You may chose to do whatever you wish with that information.
But they are with out unquestionably true.
Especially testing deadlift... I couldn't imagine doing that weekly.0
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