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just caught up on the thread. should have realized it would turn into an argument.
you shouldn't worry about food getting thrown out. if your husband can't finish it himself, then too bad. let him throw it out. you don't have to eat it if you don't want to.
Why does he have to throw it out?
If he doesn't finish it today, he can't finish it tomorrow?
my point is, she isn't required to eat it. he can do with it what he wants. of course that's exactly what i said, but you read something else in my post.
if your husband can't finish it himself, then too bad. let him throw it out.
Who said he wanted to throw them out?
Who said he can't finish them?
i said "if"
quit trolling
Well no one said that, you're just getting a little aggressive there. If he can't finish it TOO BAD!!! Yikes
are you trying to troll me into saying something you can report or something? move on.
I can't control what you say, only you can. You think I concern myself with reporting you? Lol
yep
You're giving yourself to much credit.
what? something is motivating you to troll.0 -
DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »Lasmartchika wrote: »I just can't fathom the idea of how a lifeless piece of dough has so much power over a person's hand and mouth. The piece of non living dough isn't grabbing your hand, isn't opening your mouth, and isn't shoving itself into your mouth. You have the power to eat it or not. You don't want one? Then don't eat it. You want one, but you're scared it'll ruin your daily calories? Then don't eat it. Let your husband enjoy them. I'm pretty sure he's not scarfing them down right in front of your face growling "YUM!!" so you can "suffer". I don't think you couldn't possibly have absolutely no power over your brain to say "NO", or to even learn how to have one and say that's it. It's a living human being with a brain against lifeless food. Shouldn't logic dictate you can win? FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
People come to food with all kinds of baggage. It's great that you don't have food issues, but you can't apply your experience to everyone. It's simply not realistic.
I, for instance, stopped eating dessert foods 10 years ago. My husband loves dessert food and brings it home all the time. For the most part, I don't think twice about it -- it's not my food, it's not my business. It might as well be brussel sprouts.
But two months ago, he brought home Samoa Girl Scout cookies. When I saw those cookies, I experienced an incredible urge to eat the entire package. It hit me so strongly and with such force that my husband asked me what the matter was.
I asked him if he would mind putting the cookies in his satchel and taking them to the office and eating them there.
10 years without dessert foods, with no cravings, couldn't care less about cake, pie, ice cream, other people eating dessert in front of me, and still I was overcome with such a powerful urge I had to ask him to take the cookies out of the house.
Where did that urge come from? It certainly didn't come from my conscious mind, which is the only mind I have any control over.
Thank you, @DeirdreWoodward, for saying this. I, too, have Samoa-binge tendencies, and know very well that bringing a box of cookies into my home (whether Girl Scout or otherwise) is setting myself up for disaster. Do I know the root of my food issues? Not yet, but I am working on trying to figure that out. I also know that if I start my day off eating something healthy, I am more likely to keep the trend going for the day, and vice-versa.
A lot of you have awesome self-control, and that's great, but the predominant sentiment that's being sent to OP ("just eat one" or "just fit it in") is akin to telling an alcoholic to just control themselves at a keg party or taking a shopaholic to the Mall of America and telling him to just window shop (this assumes, of course, that OP does in fact have trigger foods which test her willpower - she might not, I don't know).
OP, you are the person who knows what your weaknesses are, and while some people can stare their weaknesses/temptations in the face and go about their business without giving in, some of us aren't there yet and might not be for a long time.
I'm certainly not. My mom can buy a bag of single Dove squares and limit herself to one a day, whereas if it were in my house, it wouldn't be out of the question to find 15 red foil wrappers in the trash can by the end of the day. Since I know this about myself, I don't bring that stuff in my house, and my husband is respectful enough to avoid doing the same. If something does make it into our house that I can't have around, I either give it to someone else, have my husband take it to work (he works in a large office with lots of people), or I throw it away, and I don't feel bad about doing any of those things because I would feel worse if I ate it all in one sitting, which I am prone to do.
TLDR: If you know you can't control yourself around certain foods, it's okay to avoid those foods until you figure out how to fit them into your diet without doing damage. KNOW THYSELF!0 -
Will never wasting food actually help fix hunger? Nope just like you constantly arguing with people on the internet about food and drink will never ever change their minds. But its just something that happens. Once again......eat the food or don't.stephanieluvspb wrote: »stephanieluvspb wrote: »Tell that to the thousands of starving children of hard working parents in this first world country
i can't be bothered to make sure that every bit of food i buy gets eaten. i'm not going to personally tell them this, but you can if you want.
That's a little much but whatever. I really don't care what you do with your food, shove it in your pie hole or throw it away, i worked for a low income clinic in a really low income neighborhood and its just something that bothers me.
would my buying exactly what i eat and no more and never wasting food actually help to fix hunger for poor people in this country? i don't think there is an actual shortage of food here.
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Why?stephanieluvspb wrote: »
That's true and at least you don't have to worry about stopping and digging extra money out of your pocket for the bell ringers with the red buckets at christmas time you might be on to somethingstephanieluvspb wrote: »stephanieluvspb wrote: »Tell that to the thousands of starving children of hard working parents in this first world country
What should we tell them?
Ummm i dunno whatever you want to tell them I guess
I actually don't need to tell them anything. I'm not responsible for feeding them. I'm responsible for feeding myself and my own family. You're the one that gets bothered if others throw away food not me.
Is that supposed to make me feel bad or something?
And don't worry, I donate enough money throughout the year to several cancer awareness foundations.
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stephanieluvspb wrote: »
Will never wasting food actually help fix hunger? Nope just like you constantly arguing with people on the internet about food and drink will never ever change their minds. But its just something that happens. Once again......eat the food or don't.stephanieluvspb wrote: »stephanieluvspb wrote: »Tell that to the thousands of starving children of hard working parents in this first world country
i can't be bothered to make sure that every bit of food i buy gets eaten. i'm not going to personally tell them this, but you can if you want.
That's a little much but whatever. I really don't care what you do with your food, shove it in your pie hole or throw it away, i worked for a low income clinic in a really low income neighborhood and its just something that bothers me.
would my buying exactly what i eat and no more and never wasting food actually help to fix hunger for poor people in this country? i don't think there is an actual shortage of food here.
well, this is contradictory to you telling people not to waste food. okay, i will do what i want then.0 -
When you have not so healthy food in the house (that you know you won't be satisfied until they're gone) and you can't throw them out, is it better to just eat them up and get rid of them or is it better to stretch out the sabotage over multiple days? For example my husband brought home some doughnuts, should we get them eaten up and have 1 REALLY bad day, or have a couple of pretty bad caloric days?
Doesn't matter, it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. But those aren't the only two choices. You could also have just one and that's it. Or you could have one each day for the next three days and work each one into your calorie goal. I wouldn't recommend that because I hate stale donuts. I'd just go with having one, working it into my calories, and moving on. I'm not much of a donut person though. If it were cupcakes or ice cream I'd have a little each day, work it into my calorie and macro goals, and not feel an ounce of guilt over it.0 -
Yeah bc I would rather argue with a dog with tie dyed hair. You'll do what you want then? Lol like you weren't going to anyways.stephanieluvspb wrote: »
Will never wasting food actually help fix hunger? Nope just like you constantly arguing with people on the internet about food and drink will never ever change their minds. But its just something that happens. Once again......eat the food or don't.stephanieluvspb wrote: »stephanieluvspb wrote: »Tell that to the thousands of starving children of hard working parents in this first world country
i can't be bothered to make sure that every bit of food i buy gets eaten. i'm not going to personally tell them this, but you can if you want.
That's a little much but whatever. I really don't care what you do with your food, shove it in your pie hole or throw it away, i worked for a low income clinic in a really low income neighborhood and its just something that bothers me.
would my buying exactly what i eat and no more and never wasting food actually help to fix hunger for poor people in this country? i don't think there is an actual shortage of food here.
well, this is contradictory to you telling people not to waste food. okay, i will do what i want then.
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GiveMeCoffee wrote: »So he shouldn't have anything because his wife goes on a diet?
Was that his only option of foods to bring home? He could just enjoy one or two where he purchased them.
In my own weight loss journey; I definitely have been faced with making the proper decisions; and I've budgeted in my Fannie May and sparkling wine - while still losing weight.
But, if my husband came home with a box of delicious bagels; I would be floored by his lack of sensitivity. (I love bagels!) Of all people; I do expect my significant other to support my endeavors. My weight loss is not a forever thing.
In regard to other household members restricting items that they enjoy because another is on a diet - that's a tough one. I think the answer is how one goes about it. There are so many foods to enjoy. And, it should be easy to determine, especially in a significant other; what foods might lead to derailing their objective.
And, there's the timing or location of where non-dieting members keep their goodies. My husband wanted salty snacks. Salt is the devil for me. I bought him a nice array of salty snacks, and put them in a container so that he can keep them in his service truck. I think I am more sensitive to the deprivation of junk food when on a diet; where it may make it more tempting for the really good (bad!) stuff. When I am in 'maintenance'; an occasional calorie splurge will be ok - but I still need to maintain overall control and focus on calorie goals.
From my perspective with 2 people in the house, sharing food, and the support we provide each other; I do expect that each of us consider the other persons needs first and make it work for us both.
Why? He lives there, he can't enjoy his food in his own home just because you're on a diet? Don't you think that's selfish of you?
You need to start practicing self control instead of wanting everyone else to conform around what you're doing. It's your journey so you control what you do not what everyone else does.
But that's the thing - it doesn't seem that he brought it home as 'his own food'. I think you're entirely missing the point.
The only pint being missed is self control and moderation. Which had clearly been stated above.
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Niceemily_stew wrote: »Since you 'hate' to throw them away, do it away...Next time you probably won't buy them because you threw away your money on the ones you threw out! It's not really 'food' any way...it does NOTHING for you - why consume it, there's plenty of other 'good for you' foods that taste devine that you should have in it's place:)
You'll have to let us all know what you ended up doing??
I can assure you, these apple fritters (a form of donut) I purchased and ate today were very real:
And they fit nicely into my overall calorie goal.
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LuckyNumbers wrote: »DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »Lasmartchika wrote: »I just can't fathom the idea of how a lifeless piece of dough has so much power over a person's hand and mouth. The piece of non living dough isn't grabbing your hand, isn't opening your mouth, and isn't shoving itself into your mouth. You have the power to eat it or not. You don't want one? Then don't eat it. You want one, but you're scared it'll ruin your daily calories? Then don't eat it. Let your husband enjoy them. I'm pretty sure he's not scarfing them down right in front of your face growling "YUM!!" so you can "suffer". I don't think you couldn't possibly have absolutely no power over your brain to say "NO", or to even learn how to have one and say that's it. It's a living human being with a brain against lifeless food. Shouldn't logic dictate you can win? FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
People come to food with all kinds of baggage. It's great that you don't have food issues, but you can't apply your experience to everyone. It's simply not realistic.
I, for instance, stopped eating dessert foods 10 years ago. My husband loves dessert food and brings it home all the time. For the most part, I don't think twice about it -- it's not my food, it's not my business. It might as well be brussel sprouts.
But two months ago, he brought home Samoa Girl Scout cookies. When I saw those cookies, I experienced an incredible urge to eat the entire package. It hit me so strongly and with such force that my husband asked me what the matter was.
I asked him if he would mind putting the cookies in his satchel and taking them to the office and eating them there.
10 years without dessert foods, with no cravings, couldn't care less about cake, pie, ice cream, other people eating dessert in front of me, and still I was overcome with such a powerful urge I had to ask him to take the cookies out of the house.
Where did that urge come from? It certainly didn't come from my conscious mind, which is the only mind I have any control over.
Thank you, @DeirdreWoodward, for saying this. I, too, have Samoa-binge tendencies, and know very well that bringing a box of cookies into my home (whether Girl Scout or otherwise) is setting myself up for disaster. Do I know the root of my food issues? Not yet, but I am working on trying to figure that out. I also know that if I start my day off eating something healthy, I am more likely to keep the trend going for the day, and vice-versa.
A lot of you have awesome self-control, and that's great, but the predominant sentiment that's being sent to OP ("just eat one" or "just fit it in") is akin to telling an alcoholic to just control themselves at a keg party or taking a shopaholic to the Mall of America and telling him to just window shop (this assumes, of course, that OP does in fact have trigger foods which test her willpower - she might not, I don't know).
OP, you are the person who knows what your weaknesses are, and while some people can stare their weaknesses/temptations in the face and go about their business without giving in, some of us aren't there yet and might not be for a long time.
I'm certainly not. My mom can buy a bag of single Dove squares and limit herself to one a day, whereas if it were in my house, it wouldn't be out of the question to find 15 red foil wrappers in the trash can by the end of the day. Since I know this about myself, I don't bring that stuff in my house, and my husband is respectful enough to avoid doing the same. If something does make it into our house that I can't have around, I either give it to someone else, have my husband take it to work (he works in a large office with lots of people), or I throw it away, and I don't feel bad about doing any of those things because I would feel worse if I ate it all in one sitting, which I am prone to do.
TLDR: If you know you can't control yourself around certain foods, it's okay to avoid those foods until you figure out how to fit them into your diet without doing damage. KNOW THYSELF!
I don't disagree that sometimes people need to cut things out temporarily. I think that the goal should be to achieve the ability to moderate eventually.
But OP's question implied to me that she can control herself. She asked if it would be better to stretch out the donuts over several days so I inferred that that was an option for her.0 -
AlabasterVerve wrote: »
Actually, if it's that hard you're setting yourself up for failure. Do you know what's easy? Resisting temptation when you're not tempted. But you go ahead and keep beating your head against the wall and fighting the good fight and all of that...hmcbride68 wrote: »
Who ever said it was easy? Getting fit, especially after years of bad habits, is hard as hell. It takes a tremendous amount of patience and determination over a long period of time. It takes discipline.
Lame assumption. I'm not beating anyone's head against any walls, least of all mine. I eat what I want, when I want, and am in full control. I enjoy life
But no, you're right. This is all really easy. Nothing hard about changing your daily eating habits at all. Just don't ever be around the food you like, because if you are, you will lose control, which is not a problem for you, because it's whoever put the food there's fault. Good thing it's so easy, because people shouldn't do stuff that's hard, because they'll probably just give up anyway, right?-2 -
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OP, I think you've gotten plenty of useful responses from your thread. It's ultimately your decision. Best wishes.0
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jgnatca: "I'll take success any way I can and if that includes controlling my environment, so be it. Self-control is overrated, and it is easily exhausted. Why make it any harder than it has to be?"
I totally agree.
The OP said she is going to eat all the donuts in one sitting or eat what she says is still too many over several days. And she wanted to know which would be better?
You did say she could try and have a controlled amount but if not possible don't have the donuts sitting around if she was going to binge on all of them.
Of course, developing self control and learning to eat what you love in reasonable quantities is desirable but let people do it in their own time.
Dieters have certainly heard they have no self-control, or discipline, or will power and beat themselves up unmerciful when they fail.
And yes, ideally OP can have one donut and count it and do this every day if she desires but eating a dozen just because they are there is a real problem for many people. This lack of self control can come after years of starting diets and deprivation--for some of us it is not easy to turn off these cravings.
So yes, she 'should' be able to have bags of donuts around, or potato chips, or whatever other food is triggering these binges but until you know that you can handle it , husband and wife could , in future, agree to just bring in what they know they can eat in moderation.
Hopefully, that will include some donuts.
My husband and I are in an area with grocery stores, Dunkin Donuts, and fast food places only a few minutes away. We don't need to keep a surplus of the few high calorie foods at home that I will overeat and feel a miserable failure when I do. We just go out and get what he (or I) wants in a small quantity. He doesn't mind one bit if it helps me. This is only one stage in the long process of losing weight. Skills in self control and moderation will improve over time.0 -
I take my sweets to work and share! Most of the time whatever it is is gone by the end of the day and I've had my fix without the temptation of it just calling you from your kitchen!0
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I would take them to work and let my coworkers eat them up.0
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I don't sabatoge myself with food. If you think that's what you are doing, you might start to think about getting some help for yourself because it's not about the food in the end.
For a short time fix, certainly throwing out something that is causing stress for you is a solution.0 -
When you have not so healthy food in the house (that you know you won't be satisfied until they're gone) and you can't throw them out, is it better to just eat them up and get rid of them or is it better to stretch out the sabotage over multiple days? For example my husband brought home some doughnuts, should we get them eaten up and have 1 REALLY bad day, or have a couple of pretty bad caloric days?
That's personal choice, if eating them in one sitting will put you into a calorie surplus then maybe stretch them out.
If you can fit them all in and still remain in a deficit for the day then do that.
Or if you are that worried about eating them then let your husband eat them all and opt for a healthier food.
At the end of the day if you can make foods that are not particularly healthy and that you really like, fit into your diet then do it. A diet will only work if it feels comfortable.
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