Juice Cleanse

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  • To the true believers...

    If you eat food after a juice cleanse, haven't you just cancelled out the juice cleanse you've completed? Or magic?
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    To the true believers...

    If you eat food after a juice cleanse, haven't you just cancelled out the juice cleanse you've completed? Or magic?

    The juice cleanse is cancelled once you begin eating food again because it adds poop back into your colon. And poop is dirty.
  • To the true believers...

    If you eat food after a juice cleanse, haven't you just cancelled out the juice cleanse you've completed? Or magic?

    The juice cleanse is cancelled once you begin eating food again because it adds poop back into your colon. And poop is dirty.
    rofl. And I was hoping for "magic."
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
    He was referring to Canada, where we do have longer waits than UK/Scandinavian countries, but it's still over blown and really not that terrible.

    Can't argue opinions though, as his is basically opposite of how you and I feel. Guess to each their own but I am just glad I am where I am.
    Car accident and I am in a comma? YAY for not having to re mortgage your house.
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!

    And.........apparently there's misinformation abound.
    Seems like it's on both sides.

    I meant if I had no insurance. Or feel free to let me know if that's wrong?!

    You are required to have insurance in the US, and if you can't afford it it's subsidised so there is that now.

    I'd be interested to find out how much more I'd need to pay in taxes vs. my small premium for free healthcare for all. I mean, I already live in one of the highest taxed states where people can live off of state provided welfare their entire lives and don't need to be actively seeking work, so when it comes to raising taxes, I am quite interested.
    Interesting, is that within the past couple years with it being mandatory?

    Do you know what you're taxed at currently?
    This is what we have:
    http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

    Federal and Provincial basically puts me at 40%.


    This is the first year of the requirement. I think it has been a giant cluster.

    State and Federal -- ~20%.

    If I add in my medical insurance it would be ~30%

    I'm currious about one thing. How is your coverage? One of the people on my FL said she would have to pay out of pocket $1K for an MRI. Do you have complete coverage or do you have extra billing?
    Also curious about this!

    Full coverage.

    I had a stroke last year, ER, 45 min ambulance ride, 5 days in ICU, 2 more nights in the hospital, 2 "surgeries", 4 checkups with neurologist, and an extra MRI for neck pain and headache. Approx 130K in bills.

    I maxed at $1,800 out of pocket.
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  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    edited February 2015
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
    He was referring to Canada, where we do have longer waits than UK/Scandinavian countries, but it's still over blown and really not that terrible.

    Can't argue opinions though, as his is basically opposite of how you and I feel. Guess to each their own but I am just glad I am where I am.
    Car accident and I am in a comma? YAY for not having to re mortgage your house.
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!

    And.........apparently there's misinformation abound.
    Seems like it's on both sides.

    I meant if I had no insurance. Or feel free to let me know if that's wrong?!

    You are required to have insurance in the US, and if you can't afford it it's subsidised so there is that now.

    I'd be interested to find out how much more I'd need to pay in taxes vs. my small premium for free healthcare for all. I mean, I already live in one of the highest taxed states where people can live off of state provided welfare their entire lives and don't need to be actively seeking work, so when it comes to raising taxes, I am quite interested.
    Interesting, is that within the past couple years with it being mandatory?

    Do you know what you're taxed at currently?
    This is what we have:
    http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

    Federal and Provincial basically puts me at 40%.


    This is the first year of the requirement. I think it has been a giant cluster.

    State and Federal -- ~20%.

    If I add in my medical insurance it would be ~30%

    I'm currious about one thing. How is your coverage? One of the people on my FL said she would have to pay out of pocket $1K for an MRI. Do you have complete coverage or do you have extra billing?
    Also curious about this!

    Full coverage.

    I had a stroke last year, ER, 45 min ambulance ride, 5 days in ICU, 2 more nights in the hospital, 2 "surgeries", 4 checkups with neurologist, and an extra MRI for neck pain and headache. Approx 130K in bills.

    I maxed at $1,800 out of pocket.

    Wow, sorry to hear about your stroke I hope you had a full and speedy recovery.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
    He was referring to Canada, where we do have longer waits than UK/Scandinavian countries, but it's still over blown and really not that terrible.

    Can't argue opinions though, as his is basically opposite of how you and I feel. Guess to each their own but I am just glad I am where I am.
    Car accident and I am in a comma? YAY for not having to re mortgage your house.
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!

    And.........apparently there's misinformation abound.
    Seems like it's on both sides.

    I meant if I had no insurance. Or feel free to let me know if that's wrong?!

    You are required to have insurance in the US, and if you can't afford it it's subsidised so there is that now.

    I'd be interested to find out how much more I'd need to pay in taxes vs. my small premium for free healthcare for all. I mean, I already live in one of the highest taxed states where people can live off of state provided welfare their entire lives and don't need to be actively seeking work, so when it comes to raising taxes, I am quite interested.
    Interesting, is that within the past couple years with it being mandatory?

    Do you know what you're taxed at currently?
    This is what we have:
    http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

    Federal and Provincial basically puts me at 40%.


    This is the first year of the requirement. I think it has been a giant cluster.

    State and Federal -- ~20%.

    If I add in my medical insurance it would be ~30%

    2nd year...sorry

    This is the first year that I recall having to cover it when going through open enrollment. Now that I think about it, you're right.

    Solid passive aggressive though.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
    He was referring to Canada, where we do have longer waits than UK/Scandinavian countries, but it's still over blown and really not that terrible.

    Can't argue opinions though, as his is basically opposite of how you and I feel. Guess to each their own but I am just glad I am where I am.
    Car accident and I am in a comma? YAY for not having to re mortgage your house.
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!

    And.........apparently there's misinformation abound.
    Seems like it's on both sides.

    I meant if I had no insurance. Or feel free to let me know if that's wrong?!

    You are required to have insurance in the US, and if you can't afford it it's subsidised so there is that now.

    I'd be interested to find out how much more I'd need to pay in taxes vs. my small premium for free healthcare for all. I mean, I already live in one of the highest taxed states where people can live off of state provided welfare their entire lives and don't need to be actively seeking work, so when it comes to raising taxes, I am quite interested.
    Interesting, is that within the past couple years with it being mandatory?

    Do you know what you're taxed at currently?
    This is what we have:
    http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

    Federal and Provincial basically puts me at 40%.


    This is the first year of the requirement. I think it has been a giant cluster.

    State and Federal -- ~20%.

    If I add in my medical insurance it would be ~30%

    I'm currious about one thing. How is your coverage? One of the people on my FL said she would have to pay out of pocket $1K for an MRI. Do you have complete coverage or do you have extra billing?
    Also curious about this!

    Full coverage.

    I had a stroke last year, ER, 45 min ambulance ride, 5 days in ICU, 2 more nights in the hospital, 2 "surgeries", 4 checkups with neurologist, and an extra MRI for neck pain and headache. Approx 130K in bills.

    I maxed at $1,800 out of pocket.
    Good god that's horrific. Talk about being able to get pushed out of the TPA window based on transportation time.

    The 45 min was transportation from the hospital I went to down to a hospital that specializes in neurology.

    Trust me, I was well outside TPA. I think it took me like 36-48 hrs to get to the hospital. I thought I had the flu the first day, but my dizziness wouldn't go away.
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  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
    He was referring to Canada, where we do have longer waits than UK/Scandinavian countries, but it's still over blown and really not that terrible.

    Can't argue opinions though, as his is basically opposite of how you and I feel. Guess to each their own but I am just glad I am where I am.
    Car accident and I am in a comma? YAY for not having to re mortgage your house.
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!

    And.........apparently there's misinformation abound.
    Seems like it's on both sides.

    I meant if I had no insurance. Or feel free to let me know if that's wrong?!

    You are required to have insurance in the US, and if you can't afford it it's subsidised so there is that now.

    I'd be interested to find out how much more I'd need to pay in taxes vs. my small premium for free healthcare for all. I mean, I already live in one of the highest taxed states where people can live off of state provided welfare their entire lives and don't need to be actively seeking work, so when it comes to raising taxes, I am quite interested.
    Interesting, is that within the past couple years with it being mandatory?

    Do you know what you're taxed at currently?
    This is what we have:
    http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

    Federal and Provincial basically puts me at 40%.


    This is the first year of the requirement. I think it has been a giant cluster.

    State and Federal -- ~20%.

    If I add in my medical insurance it would be ~30%

    I'm currious about one thing. How is your coverage? One of the people on my FL said she would have to pay out of pocket $1K for an MRI. Do you have complete coverage or do you have extra billing?
    Also curious about this!

    Full coverage.

    I had a stroke last year, ER, 45 min ambulance ride, 5 days in ICU, 2 more nights in the hospital, 2 "surgeries", 4 checkups with neurologist, and an extra MRI for neck pain and headache. Approx 130K in bills.

    I maxed at $1,800 out of pocket.

    Wow, sorry to hear about your stroke I hope you had a full and speedy recovery.
    Same here, scary but glad you're good.

    What did you still have to pay for out of pocket? Obvs $1.8K vs $130K is huge difference, but still a lot, no?!
  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
    RGv2 wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
    He was referring to Canada, where we do have longer waits than UK/Scandinavian countries, but it's still over blown and really not that terrible.

    Can't argue opinions though, as his is basically opposite of how you and I feel. Guess to each their own but I am just glad I am where I am.
    Car accident and I am in a comma? YAY for not having to re mortgage your house.
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!

    And.........apparently there's misinformation abound.
    Seems like it's on both sides.

    I meant if I had no insurance. Or feel free to let me know if that's wrong?!

    You are required to have insurance in the US, and if you can't afford it it's subsidised so there is that now.

    I'd be interested to find out how much more I'd need to pay in taxes vs. my small premium for free healthcare for all. I mean, I already live in one of the highest taxed states where people can live off of state provided welfare their entire lives and don't need to be actively seeking work, so when it comes to raising taxes, I am quite interested.
    Interesting, is that within the past couple years with it being mandatory?

    Do you know what you're taxed at currently?
    This is what we have:
    http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

    Federal and Provincial basically puts me at 40%.


    This is the first year of the requirement. I think it has been a giant cluster.

    State and Federal -- ~20%.

    If I add in my medical insurance it would be ~30%

    2nd year...sorry

    This is the first year that I recall having to cover it when going through open enrollment. Now that I think about it, you're right.

    Solid passive aggressive though.

    trust me, it sucks. I can't get insurance help thru the state because I don't make enough money in the year and if I want it, I have to pay almost $500 up front for it and over $350 a month.
    Wait, you don't make enough so you have to pay more? Seems backwards lol.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
    He was referring to Canada, where we do have longer waits than UK/Scandinavian countries, but it's still over blown and really not that terrible.

    Can't argue opinions though, as his is basically opposite of how you and I feel. Guess to each their own but I am just glad I am where I am.
    Car accident and I am in a comma? YAY for not having to re mortgage your house.
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!

    And.........apparently there's misinformation abound.
    Seems like it's on both sides.

    I meant if I had no insurance. Or feel free to let me know if that's wrong?!

    You are required to have insurance in the US, and if you can't afford it it's subsidised so there is that now.

    I'd be interested to find out how much more I'd need to pay in taxes vs. my small premium for free healthcare for all. I mean, I already live in one of the highest taxed states where people can live off of state provided welfare their entire lives and don't need to be actively seeking work, so when it comes to raising taxes, I am quite interested.
    Interesting, is that within the past couple years with it being mandatory?

    Do you know what you're taxed at currently?
    This is what we have:
    http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

    Federal and Provincial basically puts me at 40%.


    This is the first year of the requirement. I think it has been a giant cluster.

    State and Federal -- ~20%.

    If I add in my medical insurance it would be ~30%

    I'm currious about one thing. How is your coverage? One of the people on my FL said she would have to pay out of pocket $1K for an MRI. Do you have complete coverage or do you have extra billing?
    Also curious about this!

    Full coverage.

    I had a stroke last year, ER, 45 min ambulance ride, 5 days in ICU, 2 more nights in the hospital, 2 "surgeries", 4 checkups with neurologist, and an extra MRI for neck pain and headache. Approx 130K in bills.

    I maxed at $1,800 out of pocket.
    Good god that's horrific. Talk about being able to get pushed out of the TPA window based on transportation time.

    The 45 min was transportation from the hospital I went to down to a hospital that specializes in neurology.

    Trust me, I was well outside TPA. I think it took me like 36-48 hrs to get to the hospital. I thought I had the flu the first day, but my dizziness wouldn't go away.

    Oh damn. Well you are not the first person I have seen done that and you won't be the last. Good to bear you are doing better though.

    Yep, I was lucky. It only took me about 5 days to be moved from ICU and allowed to walk again. Only downfall is my kids aren't allowed to jump on me anymore....
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    edited February 2015
    MrM27 wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
    He was referring to Canada, where we do have longer waits than UK/Scandinavian countries, but it's still over blown and really not that terrible.

    Can't argue opinions though, as his is basically opposite of how you and I feel. Guess to each their own but I am just glad I am where I am.
    Car accident and I am in a comma? YAY for not having to re mortgage your house.
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!

    And.........apparently there's misinformation abound.
    Seems like it's on both sides.

    I meant if I had no insurance. Or feel free to let me know if that's wrong?!

    You are required to have insurance in the US, and if you can't afford it it's subsidised so there is that now.

    I'd be interested to find out how much more I'd need to pay in taxes vs. my small premium for free healthcare for all. I mean, I already live in one of the highest taxed states where people can live off of state provided welfare their entire lives and don't need to be actively seeking work, so when it comes to raising taxes, I am quite interested.
    Interesting, is that within the past couple years with it being mandatory?

    Do you know what you're taxed at currently?
    This is what we have:
    http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

    Federal and Provincial basically puts me at 40%.


    This is the first year of the requirement. I think it has been a giant cluster.

    State and Federal -- ~20%.

    If I add in my medical insurance it would be ~30%

    I'm currious about one thing. How is your coverage? One of the people on my FL said she would have to pay out of pocket $1K for an MRI. Do you have complete coverage or do you have extra billing?
    Also curious about this!

    Full coverage.

    I had a stroke last year, ER, 45 min ambulance ride, 5 days in ICU, 2 more nights in the hospital, 2 "surgeries", 4 checkups with neurologist, and an extra MRI for neck pain and headache. Approx 130K in bills.

    I maxed at $1,800 out of pocket.
    Good god that's horrific. Talk about being able to get pushed out of the TPA window based on transportation time.
    I know there are current studies looking at TPA use during transport. It would definitely be useful for cases like this, but likely few hospitals are going to be willing to pay for portable CT scanners...

    ETA: Might as well get some info out on it. Here's our mobile stroke unit:
    https://www.uth.edu/media/story.htm?id=b1485cfc-110f-4a4c-91ea-06b573b3ba6d
  • MKEgal
    MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote:
    What exactly are you trying to detox? If you're trying to detox your liver what are you trying to detox it from? Most people say they want to detox but they have no idea what they're trying to detoxify. Most of that crap is such a scam
    "According to the American Liver Foundation, liver disease is the seventh leading cause of death in the United States...
    Furthermore, a healthy diet that includes alkaline foods that support liver function aid in this process and help the liver create new tissue. Interestingly, although lemons are high in acidic content, they are also one of the most alkaline foods available, making them one of the best ways to encourage liver regeneration."

    "Lemon juice supports liver function by strengthening liver enzymes, regulating blood carbohydrate levels and serving as the basis for new enzyme creation."

    Acid/Alkaline Theory of Disease Is Nonsense

    author: Gabe Mirkin, M.D.

    And no, an acidic food is not alkaline, except perhaps in comparison to a more-acidic food.
    And no, the food you eat does not change your body's pH (acid/alkaline measure), other than very temporarily in your stomach.

    Enzymes are proteins. How are enzymes "strengthened" by eating an acid? And how does an acid serve as a base to make new enzymes?
    Starvation mode is a myth
    No, it's not, but it's not what many people think it means either.
    http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/starvation-mode/
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!
    If you can't save the money necessary to get health care for yourself while you're pregnant, and for the baby when it arrives, how do you expect to pay for that baby? It's going to need food, clothing, toys, school expenses, probably diapers, a bed... Raising a kid is very expensive.

    I know of someone who solicited among her classmates for funeral expenses for her miscarriage.
    Again, if she couldn't afford that relatively small expense (which wasn't actually necessary), how did she expect to pay for the necessities for the baby when it was born?
    you don't make enough so you have to pay more? Seems backwards
    Sort of like getting a loan. If you need it, you can't get it, or you have to pay exhorbitant rate. If you don't need it, you can get it, and at a very low rate.
  • RhineDHP
    RhineDHP Posts: 1,025 Member
    I'm thinking of trying a juice cleanse in about a week to try and reset my body and get back on track with eating healthy. It's a bit expensive but the drinks sound good. I want to try the Cedar juice cleanse. Any tips or suggestions pre/post cleanse?


    I don't remember if this was already posted, but OP, you should read this forum thread:

    Looking For a Detox/Cleanse?
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    In Australia we have free healthcare. Most doctors (gp's ) bulk bill too, so you don't have to pay them either.
    I see a lot of American movies where hospitals have refused to treat people because they don't have insurance. Is this really how it works in America? ? If so, that's terrible :disappointed:
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  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    You know what I mean. I don't live there so have no clue. I've just seen it many many times in American movies. No insurance == No care. So assumed it was the normal way things worked over there....
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    You know what I mean. I don't live there so have no clue. I've just seen it many many times in American movies. No insurance == No care. So assumed it was the normal way things worked over there....

    Doctors can't refuse someone treatment based on someones insurance. In my experience, ER docs don't even really know what type of insurance someone has until treatment has already been given.. Primary care doctors don't have to participate in certain insurance plans, though.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Troutsy wrote: »
    You know what I mean. I don't live there so have no clue. I've just seen it many many times in American movies. No insurance == No care. So assumed it was the normal way things worked over there....

    Doctors can't refuse someone treatment based on someones insurance. In my experience, ER docs don't even really know what type of insurance someone has until treatment has already been given.. Primary care doctors don't have to participate in certain insurance plans, though.

    Thank you for explaining :) That sounds much better.

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  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    Troutsy wrote: »
    You know what I mean. I don't live there so have no clue. I've just seen it many many times in American movies. No insurance == No care. So assumed it was the normal way things worked over there....

    Doctors can't refuse someone treatment based on someones insurance. In my experience, ER docs don't even really know what type of insurance someone has until treatment has already been given.. Primary care doctors don't have to participate in certain insurance plans, though.

    Thank you for explaining :) That sounds much better.

    No problem :)
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Troutsy wrote: »
    You know what I mean. I don't live there so have no clue. I've just seen it many many times in American movies. No insurance == No care. So assumed it was the normal way things worked over there....

    Doctors can't refuse someone treatment based on someones insurance. In my experience, ER docs don't even really know what type of insurance someone has until treatment has already been given.. Primary care doctors don't have to participate in certain insurance plans, though.
    Yup. When I pick someone up and drop them off in the ER I don't ask for insurance until I'm ready to leave the ER.

    I work in a residential setting as a nurse. When I ship people out to the ER very rarely do I hear an EMT or ER doctor ask about insurance before anything happens.
  • Aemely
    Aemely Posts: 694 Member
    I vote "Yes" (or "Oui") for poutine. O-M-G, so good (enjoyed a fast food version as well as a fine dining version in Montreal)!

    I vote "No" ("Non") for juice cleanse.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    Aemely wrote: »
    I vote "Yes" (or "Oui") for poutine. O-M-G, so good (enjoyed a fast food version as well as a fine dining version in Montreal)!

    I vote "No" ("Non") for juice cleanse.

    Cosign
  • Alligator423
    Alligator423 Posts: 87 Member
    edited February 2015
    In Australia we have free healthcare. Most doctors (gp's ) bulk bill too, so you don't have to pay them either.
    I see a lot of American movies where hospitals have refused to treat people because they don't have insurance. Is this really how it works in America? ? If so, that's terrible :disappointed:

    No hospitals don't refuse care in emergent situations. If the patient is uninsured, the hospital eats that cost. They can and do refuse treatment in non-emergent situations and private practice.

    I work at a top Children's hospital and people from across the country have started bringing their children who need heart surgery to the ER when they are critically ill. The hospital admits them as it is deemed an emergency and then once they are a patient, they get the surgery. Then when no one pays...oopsie. Cardiology dept. is out 60k easy.

    Also of note my mother is a physician at a women's health private practice. They refuse to take new medicare patients because the insurance reimbursements are so poor. Where are these poor old women to go? This is the problem with healthcare being a BUSINESS. They're trying to make money, incentivizing them to do unnecessary testing and only treat patients with good insurance.
  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
    MKEgal wrote: »
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!
    If you can't save the money necessary to get health care for yourself while you're pregnant, and for the baby when it arrives, how do you expect to pay for that baby? It's going to need food, clothing, toys, school expenses, probably diapers, a bed... Raising a kid is very expensive.
    you don't make enough so you have to pay more? Seems backwards
    Sort of like getting a loan. If you need it, you can't get it, or you have to pay exhorbitant rate. If you don't need it, you can get it, and at a very low rate.
    You don't say.
    Of course a kid is expensive, what I was referring to was another fee added ontop of what you have planned/saved to go to the hospital to have said baby. Big difference.

    And gotcha, seeing it as a loan makes more sense!
  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
    Aemely wrote: »
    I vote "Yes" (or "Oui") for poutine. O-M-G, so good (enjoyed a fast food version as well as a fine dining version in Montreal)!

    I vote "No" ("Non") for juice cleanse.
    Moi aussi!
  • AnitaCRice
    AnitaCRice Posts: 114 Member
    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.


    I agree with you 100%, and I'm from the U.S.
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